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 AthenaTheStorierX:
Flawed and making mistakes, but still pretty emotionally mature.

Yeah, they're going to keep being like that, so if that's something you're in for, I'd say go for it :)

Sorry to interrupt the drama and be a little off topic, but is anyone watching Player?? I swear it's one of my favs rn! I had actually dropped it when the first ep came out, but I gave it another chance when more eps came out and now I am obsessed!! I really love Pun and Ploy's relationship and dynamics. I've seen a few people find Pun to be annoying, but I feel like she's annoyingly cute. Like you can't hate her. She's like this little cute bunny😂

 Binkau:
but is anyone watching Player??

I've only watched two episodes so far but I love it haha. Pun is such a disastrous chaos gremlin! I think it'll be one of my favorites too, yeah :)

Also I think you're entirely on topic actually haha, it's called 'GL drama lovers club', no?

 Ryn:

I've only watched two episodes so far but I love it haha. Pun is such a disastrous chaos gremlin! I think it'll be one of my favorites too, yeah :)

Also I think you're entirely on topic actually haha, it's called 'GL drama lovers club', no?

I love how bold and fearless she is. I'm pretty up to date w the drama so I think you're gonna love it!! I feel like their relationship had a lot of other pairings beat😂

You're right, I guess it was more towards the drama happening😂😂

I'm so glad Player has 12 eps. I'm so tired of good GLs having 8 eps! That should be illegal!! I'm watching My Safe Zone right now too and I'm trying to figure out how they're gonna resolve everything within 8 eps without rushing it 

 Ryn:

I've only watched two episodes so far but I love it haha. Pun is such a disastrous chaos gremlin! I think it'll be one of my favorites too, yeah :)

Also I think you're entirely on topic actually haha, it's called 'GL drama lovers club', no?

Chaos gremlin you say? 👀

 AthenaTheStorierX:
Chaos gremlin you say? 👀

Girl manages to get herself into all of the trouble, all of the time haha

 Binkau:
I'm so glad Player has 12 eps. I'm so tired of good GLs having 8 eps! That should be illegal!! I'm watching My Safe Zone right now too and I'm trying to figure out how they're gonna resolve everything within 8 eps without rushing it

True true. My Safe Zone I'm not sure about yet. There's definitely things that I really like, but I also feel it doesn't yet stand out enough. That one off-hand comment about the transfemme character popping birth control pills like they're candy was appreciated though. Despite their many trans characters, I've never seen any mainstream Thai BL or GL talk about medical transition in any way, so this was welcome and new, and I hope she gets to be more of a fleshed out character than transfemme characters in Thai shows usually are :)

 MarkWasHere:
Have you ever watched any of the low budget web drama GLs? In terms of quality, they are quite amateur, but if you're looking for fluff and cuteness, they have a LOT. They usually have episodes that are only 10 - 20 minutes long, and perhaps only 4 to 6 episodes. If you're looking for a sugar rush of cuteness, they might be just what you need while you look for your next full length drama.

I second this! Unfortunately I don't tend to like a lot of fluff so i don't mention them in my running list of shows but I skimmed through and here are a couple recs. 

 Am I the only one with butterflies?  -cute and it's on youtube. 

So is Beguine and it doesn't have much of a plot per say but it's one of my favorite underrated GLs. 

Dear Uranus - classic.

 Encore Martha - annoying to find but it's cute and features older lesbians. 

 Girls Love, - HIGHLY recommend.  Chinese movie from 2016. It's on most pirating sites and also a favorite of mine. Let me know if you like any of these and want more. I'm sure i can scrounge some up.

 AthenaTheStorierX:

You know, i started Us a while back and did enjoy the episode, but for some reason am having a hard time picking it back up to continue? Maybe it’s more of a binge-watch show, bc i dont feel all that motivated to continue, despite that first episode being a good one

anyone else?

Ah yes. us is a good show but I personally wasn't super into it either. Like thematically, I really enjoy a lot of what happened but overall, it's too mellow for me. (but the director Fon, her work is just like that, it's very consistent if anything) 

 AthenaTheStorierX:

You know, i started Us a while back and did enjoy the episode, but for some reason am having a hard time picking it back up to continue? Maybe it’s more of a binge-watch show, bc i dont feel all that motivated to continue, despite that first episode being a good one

anyone else?

I watched it weekly when it was airing but spaced out was perfect for me and I really liked it.

 AthenaTheStorierX:

Well ultimately the target stuff can go back to genre. Women are the main audience of romances. Even when men watch and enjoy romance, many dont go sharing that info. But im so glad to see the wave change - both with BL and GL. Stories are for everyone, regardless of target. Thats how we learn about each other and get exposure that we might otherwise not get. ^-^

I agree that while we may not always understand who likes what and why, stories are for everyone and should be a vehicle to help us understand each other better.

i found watching the videos you and Ryn shared earlier helped me understand a lot about BLs and what I should support and not support about them. I plan to look for more similar content c about GLs as well. We all need to think critically about what we consume, not just who watches it and why.

our culture is complex and full of all kinds of prejudice. Stories are both our escape and a way to make sense of what we encounter or dream about. Rather than focus on which viewers make us comfortable or uncomfortable, why not focus on which stories are insightful and/or fun and why.

when I think that way I learn a lot about myself and the world, while still having fun talking about content.

(if I find any good videos discussing GLs I will share.)

 dora:
(if I find any good videos discussing GLs I will share.)

Agreed and yes please do :)

 Binkau:
so I think you're gonna love it

Decided to watch some more of Player and yes I sure do :)

 aylinluna:
Girls Love, - HIGHLY recommend.

I avoided this because comments indicated it might have an unhappy ending, but now I'll put it back on my plan to watch :)

I also hadn't heard of Beguine and will watch that soon so thank you!

 AthenaTheStorierX:

I hope you dont think im attacking you Chiharu. You are welcome here as well! And im sure you are not the only one in this club who shares that opinion. But I will defend the guys in this club too. Just as Ive defended against other strikes and criticisms of other kinds - even if im not aware of anyone in the club who fits the description.

alr!!!

 Ryn:
My Safe Zone I'm not sure about yet. There's definitely things that I really like, but I also feel it doesn't yet stand out enough.

I feel you. When the pilot came out, I was super impatient for the series and both of them are just so beautiful! But with the plot atm, I'm very iffy. I'm having some difficulty shipping the characters but Imma keep watching. It's interesting how smaller companies are producing better GLs than big companies. 

 MarkWasHere:
Have you ever watched any of the low budget web drama GLs? In terms of quality, they are quite amateur, but if you're looking for fluff and cuteness, they have a LOT.

Yes, I know JPC - saw almost all of their work (24 hour love is my favorite), H'our channel and CHAM. LLL of Her&Hers - but not others on that channel. And I also saw Love of Secret already, it was nice... as well as Yes or No.

I won't comment other posts... just write this: All depends on one's point of view. Some people see GL as something real with a lot of heavy stuff and obstacles that need to be overcome... even though real life stories can be fluffy too (depends where people live), some see it as fairy tales (idealized fiction). For me GL = simply Girl's Love - two women sharing a bond, which is stronger than friendship and they even don't have to kiss for it to be love. For me GL is not about identifying with main leads, but about enjoying the show... as well as other shows. It is just a genre even if it can mean a lot more for someone else. I also don't watch murder stories because I would like to identify with the killer. ;) I didn't watch Koisenu Futari to identify with aroaces, I watched it because it was fun and I enjoyed it. But I understand others can see it differently. 

And I don't want GL to be targeted to men too. I want to enjoy it in natural way... as well as I don't want jdramas to be targeted to westerners, I want to enjoy them in the same way as japanere people  do.

A lot of well-stated conclusions and perspectives imo. Love yall! ;)