10joyboy

I read above that the FL hurt the ML and lied to him a lot, and she never apologized for it (yes, I also read that she sacrificed for him, did things for him, and loved him). But she never apologized for what she did, like everyone else who hurt him! Is that true? And if it is, then what’s the difference between her and the others who hurt him for their own benefit? and is it true that they didn't really become together till the end and they only pretend to be married because of her lies!?
Thank you.

Is your statement about “I’d rather die than defend a man” considered sexism and misandrist ? And if a man said something like this, would he be called a misogynist, or would it just be his right to refuse to defend a woman and say he’d rather die than defend her?🤔🤔

It was at 13:43 in the first episode. It looks and sounds like she was thinking about what he said before he got the message. She told him that he needed to let her see his phone because she would always regret it if she didn’t. That means she was thinking about going through with the wedding, but she wanted to see his phone to have a reason not to do so.

And they make the male leads like that too only a “green flag” for the female lead, otherwise they’re pushovers: insecure, lacking confidence, and just waiting for the female lead to be strong so she can defend him and make him trust himself 🙃🤦

We all know she won’t succeed with that, and she’s definitely going to get exposed so all of this is just annoying clichés. Let’s wait and see whether she’ll even care about her ex or not.

If he doesn’t say anything about the fake marriage and still helps her but ends up getting exposed, I bet she’ll just become friends with him. The only way she’d actually hate him is if he exposes her.

But for now, it’s clear she still has a soft spot for him. In the first episode, she was even considering forgiving him for cheating if he ended things with his mistress if it weren’t for that message. That’s just how her character is: she did everything in the relationship, tolerated all his crap, paid for everything, and still thought he was a good guy.

I don’t blame the writers that much because they only write what sells. Even after everything you mentioned, the majority of viewers still like it and find it okay they just turn their brains off while watching to enjoy it 😅. So, writers simply write what makes them money.

Like you said, he cheated on her, broke up with her, then came back and accused her of cheating on him. And she’s so nice that even when she’s angry at him, she still lets him do that and even feels sorry for him just because he got a fractured bone or something. If it were me, I’d make him hurt more instead of helping him 😤. And if I’m not wrong, I can already see that she’ll forgive him in the end and they’ll even become friends again.

Because they like the actors and how they portray those tropes, as well as the chemistry between the leads and the second couple. There are also many people who enjoy this cliché plot. (I'm one of those who don’t like it, but I still wait to see if they change anything at least when they get exposed, they don’t do the breakup and time-skip cliché. If they do that too, then I don’t watch it, even if I’ve already downloaded all the episodes 😅🙂)

Me too, my friend. It's refreshing to read opinions like yours different from the majority of viewers who see what we dislike as something empowering for the FL or somehow a good thing 🙃. Especially when they have SML syndrome or whatever they call it, and dislike the FL just because she chose the ML over the SML 🤦🤦.

Yes, I agree with you, but I disagree that she would hate him more if they didn’t make him an evil character, and he later changes for the better , I think she would forgive him in order to move on from him also and forget her doormat personality that she tolerated and accepted everything while with him. This way, she could become stronger and respect herself.

There’s one drama with this cliché: the ex cheated, make the mistress pregnant and married her in same place when they want to get married , and the FL pay for everything while in the relationship , even the house. Later, she became his “love guru,” advising him on how to be a good husband 🤦🤦🤦🤦. I’m afraid this FL might also end up becoming just a friend to him later on.

She’s dealing with a narcissistic, toxic man, so whatever she says or does is basically ignored by him he only sees what he thinks is right. To deal with him, she needs to show it harder and stronger until he understands. (I get it, maybe because he knows her secret, she can’t.) I don’t care if she slapped him every time he talks at least then he would know exactly what she means lol.

writers in kdrama make it hard to watch dramas unfortunately for me with this tropes of exes and virgin mls and weak to a degree fls

I know he’s a narcissistic, toxic, selfish joke. Because of that, he sees anything she did, and even the slightest act of "caring", as a sign that she still has some love for him.

Why do they, most of the time, make the FL slap the ML in K-dramas, but not the ex like this one? I’ve watched many dramas where the FL ignores the ML, even when he didn’t do what this ex did, and they don’t even show him face 🤣😅🤣and make him look like a joke . But this toxic ex, she felt guilty that he got into an accident 🤦.

Maybe I’m wrong about this, but it’s really disappointing always the same tropes. The way FLs act with exes isn’t hard or strong enough.

I agree with you, but what she thinks that she not caring or have any love for him that narcissistic ex is different he see what she's doing that he still has a chance . We also saw how he called her the cheater and said she was the one in the wrong 😅 because that's how he's .

I agree with you that, _as they say_ love is blind.

Let’s wait and see how she will act when her secret about the fake marriage comes out, because that’s the only valid reason for her to behave like she’s still involved with him , especially after what he did to her , and what his family did to her mom.

Stop acting like the FL is your family. This drama isn’t your property, and you can’t tell me how to feel about it watch it or not is not you ass's business

The dumb one is the person who disrespects real people over fictional characters and different opinions 🤦, and defends them like they’re his family when they gets criticized, and he acts like a loser who thinks his opinions are the only right ones and that all other opinions about his family are wrong and dumb .

And just wait for your family development I bet she’ll forgive him and be his friend again, unless he becomes a criminal or does something that really pushes her to her limits. 😅🤣

They’ll do it to make sure no one ever disturbs her again lol.”

This why they get with it , making sml more handsome than ml and more charismatic and more manly with fl than mls in most of the times, while ml act insucure and silly and dull lol

unfortunately in most of rom-com kdramas for me

But how can she care about the male lead’s feelings while also caring about her ex’s feelings!? She’s making the ex think he still has a chance. If they had broken up calmly and mutually, then yes, she could act the way she’s acting now ( I'm of those that don't agree to have any relationship with the ex while dating another) but not after what he did. Yet she still behaves like he’s the love of her life, can’t bear to hurt him, keeps helping him, answers every call from him, gives him her time, and lets him make her look like she’s the cheater and the bad one in the situation, not him. She’s just acting like she’s , be kind and gentle in places that needs to be the apposite is unwise, not show that she's good, like be kind with an abusive person and let them abuse you is stupid .

and yes that love need obstacles but not stupid one like being kind to her ex so ml has that obstacle to confess, because it's shows that he's only insucure in a way . I dislike this tropes in kdrama always the same in rom-com

She’s the one who gave him the courage to do that because she didn’t set any boundaries with him or show him his true self in the mirror. Instead, she acted like she owed him something, but she act like the one who’s in the wrong, not him

It’s a K-drama I bet before he came back that she would be like this, and it happened, lol. I know K-drama writers all think the same way with these stupid tropes to show the FL as kind and sincere like she doesn’t even hold a grudge against her ex. Then they make the ML jealous, act silly, and tolerate the disrespect from her indirectly toward him, while ignoring his feelings and acting like she can’t reject her ex because he’s her ex that she loved for so long. And, like you said, they make the ex think he still has a chance, so he puts in more effort to fight the ML for her, while she acts innocent, confused, and comes between them to look like the mature one, lol.