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Replying to Platinum Fox Feb 25, 2025
I have only watched the first episode of The First Frost, and Sang Yan's personality and mannerisms are definitely…
Can you write back after a couple of episodes? I was on episode 12 when I asked this question. I would love to read how your perspective evolves after a couple of episodes.
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Replying to Dramabeequeen Feb 25, 2025
Tbh SY in Hidden Love was from the point of view of his sister Sang Zhi. She always saw his funny side and he…
Thank you. That's what I'm saying I didn't find any difference so I was so confuse with these comments I thought maybe I was seeing things so I wanted to confirm that
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On The First Frost Feb 25, 2025
Hi, I have a question. I was constantly going to a couple of shorts, and even here in the comments, I see people commenting, "What happened to fun personality Sang Yan? Who is this dark moody person?" Sort of comments.

I will let you know what I'm going to ask and why.

- What? *Does Sang Yan from Hidden Love have a different personality, and do people find a huge difference in Sang Yan in HL and TFF?*

- why I'm asking this. I didn't notice the difference. When I was watching HL, I found Sang Yan to have layers of personality similar to Duan Jaixu. He was easy-going and bubbly around his people but rarely talked about himself. His family even his roommates didn't know much about his emotions (or I can say personal life) for example he didn't talk much about his bar and what he was doing exactly nor about why he was not going on blind dates or his girlfriend, he had no one knew why he drank too much on graduation day. There are so many things that Sang Yan in HL didn't share. Not only that, when he brought Duan Jaixu his parents didn't say that his friend might be lying to him but trusted him when he brought Jaixu and Jaixu asked for a loan, when Sang zhi ran to Yihe and sang yan took her back home he talked to his parents and asked them to not questions as she already regrets it. The parents listen, making me believe even if he had an easy-going, fun-loving personality, his character has more depth and maturity at the same time. It's just that portion was not prominent in the show. I'm not saying it was completely absent.
Now I'm watching TFF, and I can still see his funny and comic side. Even though he is serious, mature, and brooding in the presence of Yifan, his behavior is still the same around his family, duan jaixu, even with Yifan when we see the old school days. And again both sides of his personality are present here as well with one being prominent and not completely absent
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On The First Frost Feb 25, 2025
I can't explain how much I'm enjoying this drama and the pace it is going. I also love how both POVs differ but still stay the same and flow the same for both Sang siblings. I also love the character of Wen Yifan. ZRN is such an amazing actor in my books, and she is actually the reason I am watching this show. As I'm watching this, I love the way BJT portrays Sang Yan. (I know there are a lot of people who wanted Victor Ma but in all honesty, BJT is portraying the character so well; in most ways, he is reminding me of Sang Yan in HL)

I love both the drama and I am not the person who is comparing them to each other. Surprisingly, I can see the same manners in the characters played by different actors. That being said, here are things that I love and make me love both the drama even more. The parents, I'm glad that Sang Zhi's pov of how amazing and supportive their parents were, is the same as Sang Yan's pov, telling how amazing Sang's parents were towards their kid.
Duan Jaixu and Sang Yan are present or mentioned in almost every other episode, saying their friendship is really stronger, and it is not just what Sang Zhi sees through her perspective. Also, they are never beating that allegation 🤣🤣🤣
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Replying to catastrophes Feb 25, 2025
in the main novel the ending is sang yan proposing to her and she of course acceptsin the extra chapters they…
Thank you for this. Sang yan had a son and sang zhi has a daughter; the chaotic siblings saga continues
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Replying to HardTruth Feb 22, 2025
Obvious from 2 episodes now that the FL clearly wants to find out the truth about her dad & have her own revenge.…
Oh my god, I agree so much with this. Thank you for pointing out that “good bad mother” plot. It’s only two episodes, for God's sake. Of course, they are not going to spoon-feed the entire backstory of both the leads in the first two episodes.
Also calling ML simp is stupid. Imagine you love someone and situations turn out to be most unhinged or even simply crazy, your love will not disappear in a matter of seconds. What are you even talking about and also hate FL for no reason at all.

NGL, MDL comment section is like people only come to complain, but it affects other people's perceptions because after reading comments, they either do not start the show or start with a ready-made perspective. On top of that, I have seen so many people comment on many dramas where they don't even get a lot of simple information provided by the drama. Forget the foreshadowing detail. It's like people don't even watch drama properly and just come here to say it's boring I'm dropping it.
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Replying to Mhd Feb 22, 2025
Omg!!! If he just accepted to become the son in law.., he would actually marry the love of his life lol
I actually don't think he would. I suspect the father of the fl actually know about the relationship
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Replying to devils_grass Feb 20, 2025
but who will cast a listers for minor roles when the whole story is about the leads
I understand you. But I didn't ask for SZ and DJ to be highlight here neither I want ZL & CZY to act here. I understand the story is through WYF pov and I love that love how it’s going. Maybe i didn’t see the actor more that’s why thought so; I also don’t know how long they are going to appear i’m only on 1st episode and they seems even more forget full when I first saw them and it actually reminded me of thoso mini cdramas where only main leads are casted well.
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Replying to devils_grass Feb 20, 2025
but who will cast a listers for minor roles when the whole story is about the leads
Hi I'm not asking for A listers here. I'm also aware that they can not case chen zheyuan for this.

I was just pointing the differences here, where in HL even extra were casted to the tea. But here we have more normal looking people, and I love that part but given sang zhi and duan jaixu are related to main lead they could have casted different actors and not someone who looks like a random person on subways. Given the fact that Sang Yan and duan jaixu was described as both good looking people in the college.

P.S. I do understand that it's a different story and I do see it as different
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Replying to AimesSera Feb 20, 2025
I think I’m falling in love with ZRN. I seriously didn’t like her before but omg she’s perfect in here.…
I watch ZRN in My Boss (2024) and actually loved her she is the reason I was excited for this. Cause I was already bumped that a lot of characters will be changed and atmosphere will be different than what the living conditions of Sang Yan was in hidden love
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Replying to Ayla Flower Feb 20, 2025
the cinematography is insane!they forced me to even change the profile pic 🤩
I agree each frame has my heart and I'm only 32 mins in first episode
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On Buried Hearts Feb 17, 2025
Wait are the date postponed i remember it scheduled to released on 14 along with melo movie
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On Motel California Feb 11, 2025
Additionally, the on and off and why the parents didn’t care for their children's mental trauma. They both seem so much in love, but the situation is always against them. I don’t know if anyone ever experienced this, but it is the worst state to be in. When you love each other deeply, but an external force keeps you apart, you might try to distance yourselves from one another. However, you can't do it completely. Often, you end up saying hurtful things in an attempt to make the person you love feel pain and stop loving you. Sounds toxic and horrible in some ways, yes, maybe, but most often, it is not. You crave that love; you want it to happen so badly, but no matter what you do, it is not possible. This explains their on-and-off relationship and her seemingly toxic behavior in the early episodes, as well as her desire for him not to leave.

On the other point, the country they are in, many Asian countries do not take mental health seriously; the time when they were child, and in small towns, no one pays attention to things like this, so it is not weird for their parents to not seek a therapist. On top of that, fl lost a big chunk of her memory because of her trauma; the dad saw this and thought it happened for good; he took all the blame and let her hate him, which in his mind was a better thing than her hating herself.
The show focuses on how childhood trauma can affect and change your whole life. It is evident with all four kids out of 5 in that group. Not only that, they never received help for that and still exist in the same town where gossip and the perception of their character are still somewhat the same, so even when they are in their 30s, they are still carrying that trauma and trying hard to cop with it.

Lastly, I understand that some people are not interested in this drama and others have chosen to drop it. I see your perspective, as this is a type of drama not everyone will enjoy.
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On Motel California Feb 11, 2025
A few episodes ago, I talked about how this drama may need a different kind of audience and stuck by that statement.

I like the plot. I agree that the screenplay could have been better. This drama requires an understanding of various cultural contexts in Korea to appreciate its different layers. I’m not Korean; my knowledge comes from dramas, true crime cases discussed by Korean YouTubers, and some additional research I conduct after finishing each drama. So, understanding how the townspeople react to this group of kids was relatively easy for me; therefore, I enjoyed this drama from the beginning.

I also love how many scenes are unfolded in this drama. We, as viewers too, act like citizens of Hana-eu with our perception of each character until the drama shows us exclusively the story behind their actions. We, too, flow with what this drama is telling us, mimicking the exact way the people in the village form their decisions according to the gossip. It starts with many different characters; first, Kang-hee seems to red flag until it is revealed what happened to her, and the decision as a viewer wavers then with Yeon su being pushed over by his mother, that changes when we learn why he is like that then his mother then FL’s father even with the friend circle.

Every character in this drama is shades of grey; no one is perfect, not even good or bad. They all have their evil, and they all are trying to hide. Kang-hee seems to take the high road, but no matter what, her words are hurtful, and she can’t forgive or move on from what she experienced. Yeon-su, seemingly sweet, caring, and pushover, is aware of his father’s affair and is taking his mother's BS cause he feels guilty; his mother seems a victim of what his husband did, but instead of that she blames the woman in the situation and was not a responsible adult and a present parent, FL father who is misunderstood but never took the side of his daughter actively and was also missing in her teenage days. Every character goes like this. You can’t see this drama and say, “Oh! She is toxic, or he is not a green flag either,” when they all are beige.
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Replying to oknow Jan 30, 2025
Her behavior would make sense if she was a teen but her character is 32 years old in the drama. Instead of trying…
I somewhat agree to this. But I don't think any of them have moved on from their past. The educated till middle school guys still has underlying issue, a-rheum is still having problems so is the ml and fl. They are all avoiding as best as they can cause even now people in town as still same spreading rumour and they are just adjusting according to them. Yes! fl does make other miserable but when you are way to hurt and you think if you don't think about it you can move on. That's not how it works cause the way you word thing will always be hurtful cause you are not healed at all.
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Replying to Kyu Jan 30, 2025
Am i the only who understands the FL like she has so many bad memories with the place and shes contantly fighting…
You are not alone. Not only she is fighting with them she thought if she didn't care it wont hurt her which is clearly not working. Instead of healing she is actively avoiding them which is causing more trauma
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On Motel California Jan 30, 2025
I genuinely think that all 4 of them (except the one who came back) should permanently move out of that town. The town is a prime example of how prejudiced people can be and how differentiation daily can affect your life, even if you are well in your 30s.

It doesn't take long for people to point fingers at you & call you an outcast. So much so even a person (who was kissing in the lift) is bad still lives comfortably cause he comes from an okay family (both mother and father alive). Sounds weird right? But from a traditional korean viewpoint having both parents even if you are bad is far better than being okay and having either one parent or an orphan. Rumors are easily made and often said out loud since you don't have guidance/parental figure around you and maybe that’s why rumors are true cause that's how you turn out to be if you don't have them.

It's not something new, if you see through different dramas this theme is present, but very subtly touched in different shows. Like in Marry My Husband it was there or a different show where the remaining parents marry just so their children don't suffer, it was even in Glory. It's just acting as the main subject in this show.

Also, the motel is often seen as bad places in South Korea places like motels or love motel are often visited for explicit intimate activities or cheating. This adds a layer to why the entire town sees them as outcasts and spreads and believes those rumors
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On Motel California Jan 30, 2025
I'm really loving how this drama is shot. Such an eye candy. The pacing is also beautiful. I'm really enjoying it. Sadly it is having hard time with rating I guess. But I to think this drama deserve a better audience
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