Just finished the first 4 episodes and each one was more mortifying than the last lol... but in a good way. Kim…
Yes!!! For some reason, the ML’s obsessive “help” (after she even tells him to stop getting involved) reads as his own way of trying to control her .. idk
Someone posted this on rednote and I really liked it + wanted to share it (rednote ID is 407860026):
Doubts about the anti-female desire narrative ending of the comic "Dear X" I watched the first four episodes of the new drama that came out today and loved it, so I immediately went to read the original manga.
The female lead's portrayal of an antisocial personality is a classic example. I could pretty much guess what the manga author was going to set up next.
I love the female lead's character and the intellectual battles. The endings for the other male characters are also tragic. I really enjoyed the plot in the first half and most of the second half, but the ending— It made me sneer. Oh, so it's not a story from the female lead's perspective after all. The title should be changed; the childhood friend, Yin Junxi, is the true protagonist of the entire drama.
After all, the author, in their own words, said, "The male lead, Yin Junxi, is the most complex character in the whole story." The female lead just has to be evil, evil, evil, to make readers sympathize with the other male characters and to provoke them to contemplate the condemnation of antisocial personality disorder.
Hmph, a classic narrative that demonizes female desire.
The so-called male lead, centered on the classic "redemptive love," keeps dragging his feet, hesitating. He helps the female lead do bad things while simultaneously feeling remorse and guilt in his heart. And what happens in the end? He exposes her at the peak of her career, with an attitude of, "It's all your fault for ruining me," and "You made me live like a monster, not a human being." He comforts himself by saying, "If I expose you, my sins will be lessened," and "Let's destroy each other." In the end, he becomes a writer, telling her story of evil and gains both fame and fortune.
How is this a female narrative? It's just another moralizing sermon disguised in sheep's clothing. The ending is as disgusting as: "She only lost her life and career, but he! He lost his love!!! How much he must have suffered! How great he must be!"
Ironic narratives are fine, but what I hate most is when an author deliberately creates a character to be satirical, gives her the most tragic experiences, and then condemns the evil, unacceptable measures she takes to escape her fate, slapping the "antisocial" label on her from beginning to end. Because she has this label, everything she does is inherently evil.
And then they create a god-like male character who watches her, helps her, and then destroys her. The world pities him, adores him, helps him, and helps him destroy her.
One's own perception of good and evil is just an excuse to deceive oneself into thinking they are pure and flawless. In Dazai Osamu's "No Longer Human," his friend tells him, "If you continue like this, the world won't forgive you." But what is this "world"? What is this "morality"?
In this manga, it was clearly his own incompetence, cowardice, foolishness, and hesitation that caused his suffering. He couldn't let go, didn't even try to cut ties, and in the end, he blamed everything on the female lead. Her beauty and intelligence were all portrayed as tools of evil.
so tell me is it true that at the end of webtone the ml tell media about her and she ends up very bad ? ☹️so…
based on the webtoon spoilers i've read, it's true (i personally haven't read the webtoon haha)
im not sure if at the end he liked her or not... people didn't explicitly say one way or another but seems like he liked her but wanted her to stop doing these bad things?
i hope the drama veers off from the webtoon, where she tries to marry for money. it seems too trope-y -- i rather watch her descend into madness or smth haha
but i do prefer her with Jae O more than Jun Seo, since the former likes her for who she is and the latter only likes her out of guilt
FL seemed genuinely touched when ML gave her the "scholarship" money for college; seemed that that would've became a turning point for her to go down a good path had it not been for her dad taking the money and her losing her shot at college...
i also think she has some genuine feelings for him (despite all the manipulation) since it seems like she pulled some strings to get him out of jail?
- Good acting 👍 - Good OSTs 👍 - Solid plot 👍 - Great cinematography 👍 - Casted a big name actor and still made space for 16 episodes that can give us breathing room for character development 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
she is a good model and good person but acting is not really her thing. She should try study and improve herself
Eh I’d say her acting is passable. But that’s prob cuz I watch way too many Chinese idol dramas where the acting is often even worse (pls don’t come at me)
- plot is disappointing esp given what the screenwriter has previously made - humor is ok. Most felt a bit corny but some scenes did make me lol - acting and chemistry is pretty good, tho the romance plotline felt forced
Ultimately a fine watch, based on the leads alone. I’ve read a lot of comments hating on Suzy’s acting, but I personally didn’t have any issue with it (fwiw im not a die hard Suzy fine either)
Starting to appreciate the ending more — I think it implies that ML is alive and he purposely let the FL go so she can go on to do bigger and better things, which is a direct contrast to her husband trapping her in their marriage and holding her back on her career
yeah!! but I'm still asking myself if he really died or .. and it's because of that we need answers.
Yeah agreed. I’m ok with sad and open endings as long as it makes sense and jives with the overall theme of the story. This plot is basically a makjang so why can’t they just give us an unrealistic happy ending -_-
Next level copium: telling myself there will be a happy ending bc Disney+ wants new subscribers, and those who are waiting for the show to finish before subscribing are less likely to want to watch it if it’s a sad ending
Doubts about the anti-female desire narrative ending of the comic "Dear X"
I watched the first four episodes of the new drama that came out today and loved it, so I immediately went to read the original manga.
The female lead's portrayal of an antisocial personality is a classic example.
I could pretty much guess what the manga author was going to set up next.
I love the female lead's character and the intellectual battles. The endings for the other male characters are also tragic. I really enjoyed the plot in the first half and most of the second half, but the ending—
It made me sneer. Oh, so it's not a story from the female lead's perspective after all. The title should be changed; the childhood friend, Yin Junxi, is the true protagonist of the entire drama.
After all, the author, in their own words, said, "The male lead, Yin Junxi, is the most complex character in the whole story." The female lead just has to be evil, evil, evil, to make readers sympathize with the other male characters and to provoke them to contemplate the condemnation of antisocial personality disorder.
Hmph, a classic narrative that demonizes female desire.
The so-called male lead, centered on the classic "redemptive love," keeps dragging his feet, hesitating. He helps the female lead do bad things while simultaneously feeling remorse and guilt in his heart. And what happens in the end? He exposes her at the peak of her career, with an attitude of, "It's all your fault for ruining me," and "You made me live like a monster, not a human being." He comforts himself by saying, "If I expose you, my sins will be lessened," and "Let's destroy each other." In the end, he becomes a writer, telling her story of evil and gains both fame and fortune.
How is this a female narrative? It's just another moralizing sermon disguised in sheep's clothing. The ending is as disgusting as: "She only lost her life and career, but he! He lost his love!!! How much he must have suffered! How great he must be!"
Ironic narratives are fine, but what I hate most is when an author deliberately creates a character to be satirical, gives her the most tragic experiences, and then condemns the evil, unacceptable measures she takes to escape her fate, slapping the "antisocial" label on her from beginning to end. Because she has this label, everything she does is inherently evil.
And then they create a god-like male character who watches her, helps her, and then destroys her. The world pities him, adores him, helps him, and helps him destroy her.
One's own perception of good and evil is just an excuse to deceive oneself into thinking they are pure and flawless.
In Dazai Osamu's "No Longer Human," his friend tells him, "If you continue like this, the world won't forgive you." But what is this "world"? What is this "morality"?
In this manga, it was clearly his own incompetence, cowardice, foolishness, and hesitation that caused his suffering. He couldn't let go, didn't even try to cut ties, and in the end, he blamed everything on the female lead. Her beauty and intelligence were all portrayed as tools of evil.
im not sure if at the end he liked her or not... people didn't explicitly say one way or another but seems like he liked her but wanted her to stop doing these bad things?
but i do prefer her with Jae O more than Jun Seo, since the former likes her for who she is and the latter only likes her out of guilt
i also think she has some genuine feelings for him (despite all the manipulation) since it seems like she pulled some strings to get him out of jail?
- Good OSTs 👍
- Solid plot 👍
- Great cinematography 👍
- Casted a big name actor and still made space for 16 episodes that can give us breathing room for character development 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
- plot is disappointing esp given what the screenwriter has previously made
- humor is ok. Most felt a bit corny but some scenes did make me lol
- acting and chemistry is pretty good, tho the romance plotline felt forced
Ultimately a fine watch, based on the leads alone. I’ve read a lot of comments hating on Suzy’s acting, but I personally didn’t have any issue with it (fwiw im not a die hard Suzy fine either)
Still mad about the ending tho.
🤡 of the year goes to me