Why did this page suddenly become so toxic just because this drama has higher ratings? If it doesn’t suit your taste at all, try something else. No one is forcing you to watch a drama that isn’t for you.
Am I the only one who has a problem with the way Sang Yan treats Yi Fan? Especially with the sleep walking and…
I understand what you mean, but I also think Yi Fan understands his character since they’ve been friends for so long. It’s something that could be an ick or not, depending on how you see it.
Generally don't post my reviews on shows but this one is really disappointing considering the amount of hype it's…
It's a slow-burn drama, and the male lead's character is written from the perspective of his love story rather than his role as a brother. As the drama progresses, his feelings become more understood through the blend of flashbacks and present scenes. Some dramas don’t capture everyone's attention, though this one did for me.
Am I the only one who has a problem with the way Sang Yan treats Yi Fan? Especially with the sleep walking and…
First, the sleepwalking situation genuinely confuses him. He didn’t expect her to kiss him he froze because he didn’t know how to react. It wasn’t some calculated move to take advantage of her while she was unconscious. That moment caught him off guard just as much as it did her.
Second, he has been trying to help her. He fixed things in her room to prevent her from hurting herself, which shows that he cares about her well-being. The reason he didn’t lock his door wasn’t because he was purposely ignoring her request it’s more like he didn’t realize how serious her sleepwalking could get. He wasn’t expecting her to come into his room like that.
As for his attitude, yeah, he teases her a lot, but he’s not a full-on jerk. His way of expressing concern can come off as annoying, but when you watch closely, he’s actually been supporting her in ways she doesn’t always see. It’s not about getting a reaction from her in a manipulative way he just doesn’t always express himself in the most straightforward or gentle way.
So, no, he’s not taking advantage of Yi Fan. He’s confused, caught off guard, and learning how to handle the situation. And even if his teasing can be frustrating, it doesn’t erase the fact that he genuinely cares about her.
That said, I get why some people might find his behavior frustrating, especially given Yi Fan’s struggles. His teasing can sometimes come off as dismissive, even if that’s not his intent. But I see it more as his way of navigating a situation he doesn’t fully understand rather than him deliberately making things harder for her.
Also, you can’t just wake up a sleepwalking person it can trigger them and make the situation worse. That’s why Sang Yan is always slow and cautious with her. He doesn’t want to startle her or make things worse, so he’s careful in how he handles these moments. Feel free to share your thoughts here i’d love to discuss here .
Episode 13, the SML is speaking with the FL disrespecting the ML behind his back telling her "you deserve a better…
She did speak up and told the second male lead he was wrong for entering the house. Yi Fan is timid, so others often act before she gets a chance to react. But she did defend him and said he was an exception.
Honestly not to be that guy but I have a different perspective on this drama . Sang yan got away with a lot of…
I get where you’re coming from, but I don’t think Sang Yan’s actions were obsessive. He didn’t visit her every month he only went to her city around four times, and each time, he never tried to meet her or interfere in her life. He just wanted to see how she was doing from a distance.
The newspaper thing wasn’t about stalking either; it was his way of quietly supporting her work. And during their high school days, he wasn’t following her in a creepy way he genuinely cared and was there when she needed help.
Also, he didn’t get a pass just because he’s good-looking. Yi Fan also wished to see him too. If she hadn’t been at the lowest point of her life, she probably would have searched for him as well. Their feelings weren’t one-sided.
Plus, he wasn’t just sitting around thinking about her the whole time they were apart for years, and he was in college for most of that period. It’s not like he paused his entire life for her.
And I think 32 episodes were actually necessary for how their relationship developed. Cutting it down to 24 would have rushed things too much.
I don't know if I should blame my current mental state for this but I wish I had enjoyed this drama more than…
Sang Yan was already portrayed as a good brother to Sang Zhi, showing his caring and protective nature before meeting Wen Yi Fan. His relationship with Yi Fan didn’t create these traits but allowed different aspects of his character to surface. The drama also highlighted his kindness and responsibility beyond just his relationship with Yi Fan, including how he treats his family and friends. While his character might seem nearly perfect at times, he isn’t without flaws.
the styling choice for Sang Zhi failed to make her look mature enough to be a college student and be dating Duan…
You just said it yourself it’s from Sang Yan’s perspective. They didn’t focus much on Sang Zhi in this drama, which could be why her styling wasn’t emphasized. The female lead in HL does have a more mature look, so they might have had trouble finding someone who fit that same balance. Also, the age gap in TFF is even bigger, so maybe that’s why this one feels different in comparison.
I had high expectation bcz of hidden love sang yan..sang yan was cool in hidden love here he seems like a guy…
Sang Yan in The First Frost and Hidden Love might be the same character, but they’re shown from completely different perspectives. In Hidden Love, we saw Sang Yan through Sang Zhi’s eyes he was the cool, teasing older brother with his own life. But The First Frost is about his love story with Yi Fan, so naturally, the focus is on his emotions, struggles, and how much he cares about her. That’s why it might seem like he’s always around Yi Fan, but that doesn’t mean he “has no life".
Unfortunately, if a ML is patient, have emotional intelligence, understanding, empathetic they will either be…
This is why I have a problem with their opinions if Sang Yan wasn’t understanding and emotionally mature, how would their relationship even work? People complain when a male lead lacks emotional intelligence, but when he actually has it, he’s suddenly a simp or in a toxic relationship. It’s as if there’s no winning unless he’s emotionally unavailable.
I'm on episode 5 and I am finding the drama quite slow paced. The acting and plot is fine. It's just slow. And…
The drama has a slow pace to me, it feels normal l. It uses flashbacks in different episodes to align with the present events, adding depth to the story. If you keep watching, you’ll understand why she switched universities.
Sang Yan isn’t unrealistic or pathetic he’s one of the most understanding and emotionally mature male leads this season. His love for Yi Fan isn’t about desperation or lack of self-worth; it’s about genuine care and patience. Instead of forcing answers from her, he respects her decisions, even when they hurt him. He doesn’t just wait for her he grows, learns, and still chooses to love without resentment. That’s not pitiful; that’s strength. Not every love story needs to be about moving on sometimes, it’s about understanding why you held on in the first place.
Just because this drama portrays the female lead differently, suddenly there’s an issue with Sang Yan’s character. When the drama first aired up until their dating era there was no discourse about him. But now that Yi Fan isn’t enough to criticize, some have shifted that energy onto him, comparing him to leads from other dramas. Meanwhile, the storyline has been clear from the beginning about how their dynamic would unfold.
If Sang Yan had been the one to make a flawed decision, he would have been defended, and Yi Fan’s love wouldn’t be dismissed as simping. This stems from certain expectations about how women should behave acting as though they aren’t allowed to take risks or make difficult choices. And let’s be real, this isn’t even about uplifting another lead some people just want to tear down one character because the female lead isn’t as easy to insult anymore. I’ve enjoyed discussing this drama with some people here, but the trend of nitpicking and rewriting narratives just to justify baseless criticism is exhausting. There are plenty of other dramas out there to check out.
When you watch ep 27, I think you might change your mind. I read this part of the book and it is fine. The 6 month…
It's important to recognize that love doesn't mean tolerating harmful behavior without consequences, but it's also about understanding that people with deep trauma may react in ways that are difficult to comprehend. Sang Yan’s actions show a great deal of emotional maturity and patience because he sees the pain Yi Fan is carrying. He isn’t condoning her every mistake, but rather, he’s giving her the space to heal, while also standing by her as she works through her issues.
It's not about giving her immunity from the consequences of her actions, but understanding why she behaves the way she does and offering her the support she needs to grow. Relationships are indeed about holding each other accountable, but they also require patience and empathy, especially when one person has been deeply hurt by their past experiences.
I don't think the argument is about trauma being an excuse for harmful behavior, but rather about how we approach healing and growth in a relationship. If Yi Fan were to make a major mistake, it would be important for Sang Yan to communicate his feelings and hold her accountable, but this doesn't mean his unconditional support is a weakness. It’s about offering support while still addressing issues, and allowing both partners to grow together.
Second, he has been trying to help her. He fixed things in her room to prevent her from hurting herself, which shows that he cares about her well-being. The reason he didn’t lock his door wasn’t because he was purposely ignoring her request it’s more like he didn’t realize how serious her sleepwalking could get. He wasn’t expecting her to come into his room like that.
As for his attitude, yeah, he teases her a lot, but he’s not a full-on jerk. His way of expressing concern can come off as annoying, but when you watch closely, he’s actually been supporting her in ways she doesn’t always see. It’s not about getting a reaction from her in a manipulative way he just doesn’t always express himself in the most straightforward or gentle way.
So, no, he’s not taking advantage of Yi Fan. He’s confused, caught off guard, and learning how to handle the situation. And even if his teasing can be frustrating, it doesn’t erase the fact that he genuinely cares about her.
That said, I get why some people might find his behavior frustrating, especially given Yi Fan’s struggles. His teasing can sometimes come off as dismissive, even if that’s not his intent. But I see it more as his way of navigating a situation he doesn’t fully understand rather than him deliberately making things harder for her.
Also, you can’t just wake up a sleepwalking person it can trigger them and make the situation worse. That’s why Sang Yan is always slow and cautious with her. He doesn’t want to startle her or make things worse, so he’s careful in how he handles these moments. Feel free to share your thoughts here i’d love to discuss here .
The newspaper thing wasn’t about stalking either; it was his way of quietly supporting her work. And during their high school days, he wasn’t following her in a creepy way he genuinely cared and was there when she needed help.
Also, he didn’t get a pass just because he’s good-looking. Yi Fan also wished to see him too. If she hadn’t been at the lowest point of her life, she probably would have searched for him as well. Their feelings weren’t one-sided.
Plus, he wasn’t just sitting around thinking about her the whole time they were apart for years, and he was in college for most of that period. It’s not like he paused his entire life for her.
And I think 32 episodes were actually necessary for how their relationship developed. Cutting it down to 24 would have rushed things too much.
Just because this drama portrays the female lead differently, suddenly there’s an issue with Sang Yan’s character. When the drama first aired up until their dating era there was no discourse about him. But now that Yi Fan isn’t enough to criticize, some have shifted that energy onto him, comparing him to leads from other dramas. Meanwhile, the storyline has been clear from the beginning about how their dynamic would unfold.
If Sang Yan had been the one to make a flawed decision, he would have been defended, and Yi Fan’s love wouldn’t be dismissed as simping. This stems from certain expectations about how women should behave acting as though they aren’t allowed to take risks or make difficult choices. And let’s be real, this isn’t even about uplifting another lead some people just want to tear down one character because the female lead isn’t as easy to insult anymore. I’ve enjoyed discussing this drama with some people here, but the trend of nitpicking and rewriting narratives just to justify baseless criticism is exhausting. There are plenty of other dramas out there to check out.
It's not about giving her immunity from the consequences of her actions, but understanding why she behaves the way she does and offering her the support she needs to grow. Relationships are indeed about holding each other accountable, but they also require patience and empathy, especially when one person has been deeply hurt by their past experiences.
I don't think the argument is about trauma being an excuse for harmful behavior, but rather about how we approach healing and growth in a relationship. If Yi Fan were to make a major mistake, it would be important for Sang Yan to communicate his feelings and hold her accountable, but this doesn't mean his unconditional support is a weakness. It’s about offering support while still addressing issues, and allowing both partners to grow together.