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Masterpiece, iconic classic

The story is realistic...

and we get to see character growth of the entire family.

Yang Che Ri and her honey are an amazing pair and how she kicked his as# into being confident. I remember her role!!!! Then I remember his role too, he was so charming.
The Daughter and her architect husband are most handsome pair, she has a gorgeous body and he has the face AND the body, both are athletes, but their acting wasnt so great
her dad and yelling at her "Young Che Ri!!!!" is somethng I still hear in my head LOL And her dad's clothes. He was impeccably dressed in clothes that matched his gray hair

The Oldest Son and his lady are an interesting pair. Both of them grew up majorly bc of each other.

The main Pair, the cheating YES! husband and the dictator Mother, were not interesting :) They did their growth bc they HAD TO, time was running out

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Boring and messy bad script and mostly bad acting

The ML actor saved it bc he was so good.

The FL actress was the MOST COLD person totally oblivious to the ML actor, and also she was completely incapable of acting. COMPLETELY.

you can just imagine how bad the drama was since I do not remember anyth9ng from it unless I try, and the only first association is my thinking with concern "wow what a boring messy drama and acting, the male lead is the only one acting here, I hope he can pull it off alone"

Ah yes there was a VERY pretty lady villain, his mom

and the moral of the story was .... to NEVER blindly trust anyone near you if you are rich. CHECK THE DOCUMENTS INSTEAD

Now I remember, this drama had the trope plot that they misquote one DNA result zillion times

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Clever "improved" copy of Lawless Lawyer, but kinda generic... Nothing stayed with me

I watched this a few months ago. It is a total "copy with improvements" of Lawless Lawyer. Lee Gong Ji is again a lawyer etc taking down corrupt officials, and this time there are some supernatural elements and the villains are taking entire Korea and its president. THe drama is not about character growth but about outwitting the criminals.

The watch was not bad but I notice that I do not remember anything from this show EXCEPT thinking that the Assemblyman is NOT as nearly a good villain as Judge Cha from Lawless Lawyer. The Judge was UNSURPASSED acting of a smooth powerful evil villain. Assemblyman looks like an amateur compared to her. He is just not ... sleezy enough. Not scary enough. Not politely cold enough. Not distant enough.. Just not a great villain like her.

I also remember that I was thinking it was a karma show. There are many elements of karma and how our actions shape the future. So the Lawyer did not date etc, he made sure he erased his previous bad karma and he focused on becoming a prosecutor and then chasing criminals. That is perhaps the only "character growth" element in this kdrama .

And the side character, the prosecutor friend... Is interesting. He was the magician in Twinkling Watermellon and in this drama too he spoke like that so I was expecting him to be some kind of supernatural influence, but he was not :) Seems like that is how he acts... .

One of The GLory villains is a half villain here and she is pretty good at it. She is assemblyman's secretary.

So... lots of action, and not much deeper content, and most importantly, you can tell the depth of it, since I do not really remember anything until I force myself to remember :) It means that it did not reach me...

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Trash. Plot made by female stupidity and his/her misunderstandings. TERRIBLE acting of FL etc

I watched this to the end bc most kdramas take a U turn that is unsusepected and you get the hidden gem. But not this drama LOL
This drama was all right at the very very end.
But from the beginning to almost the end, ... it was .... BAD, contrived and forced, mostly

The script is mostly trash until the very end and makes plot by FL stupidity and misunderstandings between her and ML and then all bad decisions of her "family."
At the very very end it gets better. When they fight and destroy bottles LOL

The whole crew are not the greatest actors at all. Maybe only the webtoon writer could act genuinely and felt like a real character. Everyone else was clearly overreacting to make sure they "act", FORCING their character instead of BEING the character, so it was very unconfortable forced to watch too,
but at least theiy tried to embody their character

FL was the worst actress ever because it was clear she was PRETENDING to act. It was frustrating to watch someone be so FAKE. She had that smirk of "I am acting this is not for real" and it was just ... contrived, fake, slimey feeling to watch someone who wasnt even THERE as their character but as themselves pretending to be someone else bc someone paid them for it or whatever. it wasnt genuine acting.

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Cheap trashy SOAPY soap dangerous fantasy for teenagers

OK..... teenagers love "interesting" stuff but this kdrama is plain DANGEROUS, as it portrays some scary and dangerous things that are not to be meddled with. This is beyond Hogwarts and into the realm of soemthing super creepy and infectiously dangerous.

There are much more high quality fantasy stories for teenagers, like Twinkling Watermellon etc

Here we have the FL talking with puckered lips and affectionating yet chasing life or death situations
and the dude not acting much, yeah he is handsome but he is more handsome when he smiles and talks etc when he is more ALIVE
ML is acually more fun as the evil deity. And FL too...

The plot is the cheesiest possible soapy soap - so many twists and turns that are .... makjang to the max...and worse.... all kinds of curses and ghosts etc
and the soap of love loyalty betrayal etc

fascinatingly flasy trashy hodge podge that doesnt lead anywhere nor improves anything.

Actually ... this is exactly like Harry Potter stories. Lots of stuff happens and actually nothing important happens. IT IS TRASH CONTENT

Yeah if you are a teenager you might like it but this is not a quality teenage drama

And just one word of warning, this drama exposes you to some images and concepts that you should not be fooling around with. It is actually quite dangerous. Like ... ojiba board or something. DO NOT MEDDLE WHERE YOU SHOULD NOT

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A jester movie. Often slapstic funny but overall deep social commentary

There were only 4 episodes so far.
This kdrama is definitely influenced by Hollywood and ... hm... I think Netflix is killing kdramas. The Hollywoody traits include that fast supposedly smart and witty conversation that just keeps rolling too fast (and the subtitles flash so fast, you can't read them), and exaggerated body language.

On the plus side, there are some pretty deep messages in this kdrama. Divorce *is* a disaster and it *can* be prevented with all those actions they mention in the drama.
This is a jester kdrama. It talks about some really deep stuff by using slapstic humor.
Acting is ... well... not always realistic but more exaggerated... to create that jester feel. I understand why it is done that way but I don't enjoy seeing it :)

I love the funny twists on the classic kdrama tropes like tripping over to fall onto each other LOL that was so comical, that whole scene of the hood watching... There are many slapsticky scenes like that.
There are also many surprising scenes that take you into DEPTH, suddenly, by surprise. It starts as a fluffy nothing and ends up as a very deep human scene. Like... knitting scene - IF YOU THINK I AM LAUGHING AT YOU, YOU ARE INSECURE. Being easily offended is inferiority complex. Or the scene in the video game store where he tells her to give him 24 business hours notice and she agrees. Or the scene where the nun says that people cave in to societal pressure and give up their dreams bc they are aftaid of being criticized... Or scene where they say that marriage and divorce are both measures taken for self happiness... The AI testing and the questions are sooooo .... wickedly accurate LOL
His exes are definitely wild cards :) Never expected those LOL
It is nice to see the twists, the first ex is so rational but her rationality makes rational decisions that are good decisions since she is impartial.. and so the stereotype of rationality is broken. Although seems like she will soon be a villain.

So yeah, this kdrama can be watched on any level you want. You can focus on slapstic comedy and the antics of the teamleader (I saw him as a gay manager in Strong Bon Sun so I am impressed with his comedian skills), or you can watch it as a rom com, or as a crash course in insurance LOL or a deep social commentary, or a crash course in marriage and divorce, or whatever.
In any case, the kdrama explores the epidemics of divorces in Korea and how that shatters the fabric of the traditional culture and society and where it could lead

One of the team members is in Heo's diner. Overthere she is an excellent actress and makes that kdrama totally real and shiney and amazing bc she is soo good in being conflicted, sarcastic, gloomy, and only secretly affectionate. Here... her acting is hm... not really.
It is fun to see the gloomy and flat and boring Grim Reaper show some spunk and life. LOL

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Fast paced and interesting, although the plot is not new. This will defeat cheap verticals

This has so many tricks we saw before - the rich family being exploited for their money, and all the power and money games - but STILL it is a brand new UNIQUE story and it is interesting. I have NEVER watched a 100 episode drama like Cinderella Games etc. This is my first and I am enjoying it :)

The pace is fast so it is interesting. Things keep happening. 30 mins episode 5 times per week is cool. I rather watch all of it at once at the end of the week and this doesnt require too much time.
The acting is pretty good. ML actor is the only one that needs to stop pretending he is acting and gets into acting AS IF it is for real.

On the BIG scale of things: I saw Chinese vertical short dramas and movies and I was really concerned about it bc it is total kitch, the acting and the stories are just cheap. Something to stare at on your cell phone while you are taking the subway home, kinda thing.
So I was worried about kdramas, what if the cheap stuff takes over... ??? people can be stupid. WOULD they watch that cheap trash and not watch something higher quality... ???.

However, after seeing this series, I am feeling encouraged and hopeful
I predict that this will stand as a formidable opponent to verticals.

BECAUSE nothing can replace a GOOD story with GOOD acting

and imo nobody else at the moment has good stories, acting, messages, etc as kdramas, K-art is the best in terms of story, warmth, growth, messages, acting, the whole nine yard, the best STORYTELLING of it all, the most sophisticated, classy, interesting, and uplifting.

so I cheer kdramas on into the global victory.

And btw.... Do NOT lose "Koreanness"

e.g the granma in pink here has 1 kg white powder on her face to make her face look white, and FL looks like she has lived in a grave somewhere... so pale.

DONT DO IT. it is racist to expect ppl to look white. I understand going after American advertising $$$$ so why not some pale faces LOL but do not overdo it. Dont try to look Western etc. Look like yourself. One thing to learn from the West though is nice healthy white teeth :) I suggest copying that :) For good health .. And everything else...... well .... be yourself.

Do not become sell yourself to the devil to go after those $$$$ because then you are not gonna be watched as much bc then it is all same all same and then there is LOSS of the CREATIVITY that kdramas and only kdramas have. No other dramas do. Sometimes Thailand might come up with something, like "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" but ... it is hit or miss. whereas, MOST kdramas and kmovies will turn out nice and will make some audiences very happy. Kdramas and kmovies are CREATIVE, UNIQUE stories with meaning and messages and certain WARMTH that no other can have.

So I am curious how this kdrama will go.

And now a deeper dive into this particular drama:
FL is a Queen in her house - she is a spoiled naive brat that has EVERYTHING - at least she thinks so and everyone else thinks so.... She is super weak and immature. ANd yeah the price for that is being naive. And being naive is suicidal for a rich person, targeted by predators. Our FL was so sheltered all her life that she hasnt learned that YET until... she fell into some traps :) NOW LETS SEE IF she climbd out of the hole she dug out for herself.

But ... did you see how her mother treats her brother? If you grow up in a family like that, what kind of twisted idiot WILL you become??? and then how will you outgrow it .... so we got 100 episodes to see how FL grows up.

I like this drama. The plot moves fast. Yeah you can tell the families are toxic and that is why everything happens, AND IT IS DRAMA MATERIAL BC THEN OUR NAIVE FL CAN FINALLY GROW UP :) and hook up with the handsome doctor... ? Will she?

THe handsome doctor is really handsome, ah the white teeth and nice smile! and he is HONEST. He will be a good partner to some good woman. Our FL when she grows up?

ALso, my learning here is that the fruit does not fall far from the tree, we can just see Grandma in pink and we know what her kids could be like... And little tiny Eun Ho KEEPS SECRETS TO HIS PARENTS... woow that is serious...

SO YEAH LETS SEE HOW FL WILL GROW UP FINALLY

just for the record. I think Cheating Husband actor is not good at acting, he clearly pretends. I think everyone else is decent.

yeah the doctor wife is a mystery, why stay there when it is so moronic, why even defend them... ??? BUT SUCH ARE TOXIC PEOPLE IN TOXIC FAMILIES. THis kdrama is hopefully about clearing up all that gook. If it were to just show us toxic people in toxic families doing toxic things forever then we might as well watch Kardashians or Dynasty or something like that, which I would NEVER watch.

I am watching this to see HOW the stupid FL will get smarter and become more mature and wiser, deeper, stronger, better person.

FL is already kind. But she is sheltered and naive, so her kindness does not count. Real kindness is when you have MET the evil and suffering AND YOU ARE STILL KIND. Our FL has not met any darkness inside her or others YET. But she is going to.... starting to :) IT WILL EITHER MAKE HER OR BREAK HER

We got to see how it broke her :) Yeah scenes of answering phone to kidnappers are pathetically self centered egostical .... the "mom" cannot even stay present to save her child... BUT AT THE VERY START, FL IS JUST A CHILD HERSELF :) selfish naive kind delusional child..

and we are here to cheer her on in her fight to grow up. This is kinda modern version of gladiator games LOL Storytelling is always like that... cheering the little meek week immature people to become better human beings....


WRITTEN AFTER EP 40:
This is a very engaging kdrama. I was analyzing WHY. I think it is filmed very well. The angles, the cut, etc, it flows, it is done well. I think the acting is great. Even the obviously-pretending ML actor has improved. Oh yeag thre is one more, the drunkard Dr's husband, he also exaggarates but ... its ok. There are some seriously good actors in there, and all characters seem REAL.
I think technically this filming moves between some heavy duty makjang drama with overdoing and exaggeration AND ALSO some quiet deep serious acting, so the mix is very interesting and even the makjang characters seem real because they "fit." Like MIL. That is an excellent actres and her makjang character adds spice and reality, she is just a prick character. She is actually one of the stars of the show, she is the big mouth and pulling hair character, not to mention her wardrobe :) nouveau riche amazing pieces of fashion :) There are other makjang characters who arent such great actors, like her son, but it is ok. THere are other sorta kinda makjang characters done by not so great actors like Seong Wo or or the Little Grandpa, but it doesnt matter, it "passes" it is good enough and hopefully they improve the "realness" of it. And other smaller makjang characters done very well by great makjang acting that makes the character look real, a real brat LOL, like MIL's daughter.

Then there are very deep serious characters done super well by very fine and detailed acting, by actors who make it REAL, it is like you are watching a scene from real life, like Dr's father, or Aunt, or Ms. Lucifer Se Ri, or both Doctors. etc.

And the music I think is good. Unfortunately I watch often at night so have to keep the volume down and so I am sure I miss a lot of music, but the little I hear, was fitting well.

Overall, it looks convincing, we are watching PEOPLE living their lives, not actors on stage, and the scenes are picked so that the story MOVES ALONG, so it is very interesting to watch.

Also, to me personally this is interesting bc FL character is growing up, she is less and less a clutz and more and more someone who takes care of herself and contributes. That is a positive and uplifting message to see characters growing. The drama has a general message of healing and growth, and a genuine and organic growth of the relationship betwen the doctor and FL where they are becoming a team of equals working very well together in a very strong bond with good communication.

Then the tug between desires for "war and revenge" like Uncle versus objectivity, healing, forgiveness, love, like Dr and his mom,
the clash and rift in the criminal section as the criminals discover how they are backstabbing each other behind each other's back LOL
the clumzy attempts and learning at first and then trying and getting smarter by the "good guys" who are so naive and so inexperienced but keep trying... and sometimes succeed in small ways, sometimes try something uselss, sometimes are not carefull, etc... but keep moving on, somehow... bc they keep trying...
and so on, the RIFTS AND CLASHES AND CONTRASTS that keep toying and tugging and creating the story

The plot made out of female stupidity and/or ANIO!!! lack of communication is the most boring plot. Well, except amnesia LOL THere is plenty of great plot to be made by incorporating solving real problems and using good communication.

So this drama is rather low on the boring plot, DOES have interesting plot, and it is filmed well, acted well, and has good music.
The DETAILS are so well scripted so missing just a minute in utmost attention can make you lose a ton of information, so you WATCH carefully :)
FOr example the scene when Dr takes MsDumb out of the psych ward and they run holding hands and she looks at him. That ONE SECOND is so critical to understand that he has already fallen in love and that she noticed him for the first time as a man. And then nothing happens between them for a long time .... it is already ep 40 and there is nothing romantic EXCEPT that she noticed when he put bandaids on her... so... this growing feeling is growing that they are closer and closer on a very deep level. And it started with that run, that scene of 1 second.

Then there are other super important and rather short scenes, like when he tells her to stay to get punished by serving them... and the next scene, she DOES serve them... So there are zillions of very short important scenes that buld up to tell the story that is a really big story. WELL DONE!!!!!

The script is good That is what I should have said already :)
So the script, the filming, the acting, the music, all together, you get a very interesting drama. I am enjoying watching it. I am not a 100-episodes drama person LOL this is my first one :) If something is good, I will watch it. I do love 50-episodes dramas, actually :) and watched quite a few of those. I will watch if it is good. I watched Haunted Palace although I never watch horror. It was worth watching it for other things and I fast forwarded through horror scenes

There is another drama "woman who swallowed the sun" that has a good story but it is not filmed so well and not acted so well, so it is not so interesting to watch. I was thinking a lot why this drama is much more interesting. These are my conclusions so far.

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Mastepice iconic classic kdrama

I adore this kdrama. It is so fun and the music is so great Also, the plot is real and the acting is phenomenal.

The Dad as a youngster is a riot LOL That actor is so good.
The son is so-so. But his guitar chops...
THE SCENE OF DAD AND SON FIRST TIME ON THE STAGE AND THE DAD LOOKING AT THE SON TO START - wow one of the most etched scenes ever for me, one of my favorite scenes - masterful level of detail

FL is realistic acting :) I enjoyed her.

But I primarily remember the young Dad being so flamboyant and singing so well although he had no experience . HE HAD LOVE AND PASSION AND DESIRE. His body language his dancing, his singing.... the sync between him and his son... the screaming crowd... the girl with the puckered lips... OMG so many details in one of the HOTTEST EVER SCENES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z9avVTnZ8M

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Really fun, showing deeper issues through comical lens

The camera work in this drama is amazing. Such great angles. It is visually stunning.

In this drama, the food is one of the lead characters and takes a LOT of screen time, so there is not much time left for the actual story and character development, and there are just plenty events and competitions but not deep inner work.

The show is light and hilarious bc FL is so comical - her 21st century thinking, speech and actions are just HILARIOUS, and ML bounces her humor very well so far....
ML enjoys this role and it is a great role for him, he is perfect for this role bc he is so bouncy, rowdy, innocent yet a serial killer LOL and looks awesome in all that regalia and without it :) and all the horse ridings etc .

The story really is about very deep stuff, how he will reconcile his personal tragedy and not take it on the whole country, .... but the angle to approach it is comical and rowdy so far..... as the FL navigates the scene to figure out where the heck she landed...

ML and FL are an excellent pair and really make this work. Even dead serious scenes of him basically killing and maiming people bc he wants to - are made to seem lighter bc of the underlying comical note.

The overall vibe is bubbly and alive and actually based on love and care between the leads and their friends.

The twists are amazing

So ... watch it as a fun thing and dont expect too much.
There is sexism and tropes etc etc etc but it is overall fun and very warm and actually deep

Just watch and I think something will appear :) And it will :) THis is actually quite deep under the pretense of being comical

If you want something more obviously deep and more obviously meaningful and familiar yet really fun, I recommend My Troublesome Star currently airing///


The filming for Bon Apetit is amazing, the angles etc are so cool .
The story is a twist on the old trope of a cruel cold ML with a traumatic past, who gets softened by the caring FL. But there is a twist here. The cruel ML immediately shows the weak, soft and caring side . Dragging him on that rope and feeding him was hilarious. And the FL is competent. And the sexism is softened by the HUMOR that she brings as the story is told from the comical point of 21st century - ....

but..... the reality is, the dude is a serial killer. Very cute and sexy buff, but a serial killer and also with that female villain as his chick who had him wrapped around her finger. Brrrr... murderers. And the crazy thing - she reminds him of his mom. Some serious crazy.

So yeah we can say the drama is fun and it is, it is tragicomical from one perspective, but it is chilling actually. Scenes where she has to kiss his royal as@ to avoid torture and death are not funny at all.

It really reminds me of Boys Over Flowers, a psychotic violent wealthy ML who uses the FL as a personal psychiatric nurse and babysitter. That drama was really for a psych ward.
This drama is the SAME concept, but it takes it much lighter and makes it fun, partially bc the ML was shown in vulnerable situations too and as someone who cares, and bc the FL is shown as an independent adult, confident and capable.

But the fact is... he owns her as the king... and so he takes liberties that are ... hm... sketchy. For example, he basically raped her (grabbed her arm, yanked her down and started the handiworks as she brought him dinner).... tried to kill her so many times... etc etc etc

I think th most fun is her bossing him around and he has to eat it in spite of all his entitlements .... and of course, his caring for her after all. But it is like ... a shark likes you... and will not eat it now but later..LOL . Hopefully he transforms fast...


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Technicalities:
The ML is perfect for this role bc of his facial features that make him look scary if filmed from above and bc of his strong physique and vitality, and his wickedly great sense of humor and having fun. He is really having fun with this role. And I think he is a lot better choice than the original actor, who is more mellow and would be too mellow for this very physical. chaotic rowdy fun rom com.


This drama has dramatic overstated acting and imo is in essence makkang drama. CHAOS acting :) And bc it is historical drama, thre are many moments where he acts stuff and wooden, and he speaks not in normal language but in this formal speech that sounds almost like yelling

In other words, less text to remember, less emotions to act, less subtleties to act, and less time on screen
Bc the food and cooking takes a considerable time on the screen, it is a "lead actor" that gets more screen time than ML and FL, so the human actors have less to act...

In this drama, he is a pretentious jerk / control freak and so his entries are very dramatic and he has to look " impressive" - then he dips into being a softie - so he swings in a huge range of expressions, but nothing is deep and held for too long.... he might like acting that better. After all the actor has to have fun.

This drama caught my attention with filming - the scenes and camera angles are amazing and make it so fun. I noticed that the actors do not get too much of camera time, so you see face for a second or so.

In a more psychological drama, e.g. Crushology 101, the actors get a LOT of closeup time on the screen in one shot, the camera stays on them - for example, 2 people talking for a while... so the actor has to be able to hold their role for several minutes and shine in it. That;s a lot harder than a minute in this drama where he throws dishes out and tries to kill someone LOL

THe Bon Apetit drama is more based on jazzy scenes and very dramatic short entries.
HOWEVER, then it is 100000% crucial to do those short scenes with extreme intensity and precision, and not be too subtle but show the "gig" precisely and clearly, to almost overdo it, for example, rolling your eyes, or whatever - it is exaggarated.
This drama also requires fantastic COMEDIAN skillZ, in very visible ways.
This drama also requires a great swing from being a cruel serial killer to being someone crying for his mother or caring for FL.
The contrasts are soooo huge. And he has to act every extreme extremely :) it is so dramatic.
So this is a role in theater, maybe, where you are so far from audience so you exaggerate your acting

Also in this drama he has costuming to his advantage, he is half naked in his bedroom quite often, so he can show off more. Then what he is wearing is also more flashy and makes you look at him, and he is good looking.
Also, this drama is more dramatic, in ep 4 he essentially raped FL, she had to come there and stay there and not get up and run, like it or not...

Disclaimer: I have NEVER studied film but this is what I see as a lay person.

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It is story about losers and so it is boring to watch

The two sisters are .. well... losers. Both are very faulty and not making any progress... There is some self reflection but not enough at all. They keep doing dumb selfish things. .

This drama lacks COMMUNICATION. Perhaps it will happen later but so far has not happened and I am on ep 4. It does not look it will ever happen.
The overall vibe is ... hopeless isolation...

For example, the twin sisters switched places, but they are NOT calling each other to ask how to grow strawberries or answer corporate things...

and the stupid corporate pion is trying to "do her job" in very vile dirty work
and the farm person has not done anything about farming

I dont like their lying to people straight to their faces, etc

It is not funny, it is not charming, ... it is not smart, it is not cool, ... it is not funny or witty ...

There are some realizations like "hey I did not know my sister" but there is NO ACTION whatsover to correct that.

The drama is really about 2 selfish young women who are living their lives just to scoot by, without any dreams or striving, ...

and so... it is utterly boring

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A nice story about a nice guy next door who happens to be gay

I am straight so I am writing from that perspective, as an outsider observing something new, in this case, the lgbt+ AUDIENCE here, ppl who totally shocked me with their vile comments about this drama. Wow. They want a steamy fast thing in a 100% gay world. Sorry. That's not REAL life and real art. Dont gay ppl have friends who are not gay???? To be honest, I think the grumpy audience are asking for trashy porn. Yeah criticize me but that it the essence of what they are asking for.
I LOVE THIS KDRAMA BC IT IS REAL. IT IS ABOUT MATURING, LOVE, BEING WHO YOU ARE, BEING HONEST, HAVING DREAMS AND GOALS AND MAKING THEM HAPPEN, PUTTING EFFORT INTO YOUR LIFE TO BE HAPPY AND DO WHAT YOU LOVE TO DO. And life is not gay or straight, it is **** diverse **** and underneath, everyone is the same. I will quote another reviewer here who in one sentence, said what this kdrama is about - "Far from being just another of the hundreds of LGBT+-themed productions that are increasingly appearing on television channels and digital media, 'Heesu in Class 2' surprises with a complexity and attention to detail that transcends its genre, with its fresh and emotional take on what it means to find one's own path in the midst of adolescence. "
YEAH and this same recipe holds for ANY stage in life.

The entire plot can be moved on to any age and situation. The fact that the 2 main characters are gay is just one aspect of who they are. But gay or straight, everyone has the same issues of finding their own path and being true to themselves.
Being lgbt+ is a bit more tricky bc ppl can throw stones at you out of disgust, but ... anyone poor, ugly, etc.. gets similar treatment :) For example, any one of those school kids who were bullied... Think of "The Glory" and then tell me, why would a lgbt+ person bitch about mistreatment as if they are the only one being mistreated?

But anyways - I think this drama has perfect pacing and great acting and shows life as it is. ANd it is slow bc it takes time to fall in love, to accept being a gay teenager, to be brave to tell someone you like them, etc. etc etc.

HEE SU GOT SMARTER TOWARDS THE END AND HE TOLD CHUN :) I am waiting to see Chun's reaction.

I loooooove the straight character Summer, she is soooo wise and mature and a wonderful person. I love the friendship between her and SW

. THe first thing that shocked me is that the lgbt+ viewers complained that this is not a BL drama but a straight drama, that there was no relationship development between Hee Su and Seong Won and that Chun and Ji took too much time. IT WAS SHOCKING TO READ THAT. So what is the idea of "relationship" that these people have??? just jumping into kissing right away.... ??? I didnt realize how immature and greedy this audience was.... They wanted to see dates of Hee Su and SW. They didnt want any straight couples. It pissed them off that the original manga wasn't followed and Chun had a girlfriend instead of being gay. They quoted me Love in Big City as an example of a good BL kdrama. I havent watched that yet, I just saw the cover images, it was lots of sexual contact and nudity there, so I was put off by that. And it is not necessary here. Hee Su is 18 years old *kid*. Yeah technically he could make babies but emotionally, he is still a child. Also, even when he makes his sexual debut, he wont be a promiscuous or overzealous individual. He will be a healthy boy next door. I think that is the value of Hee Su's character, he is a decent PERSON who just happens to have a certain preference. His sexual preference is not something he picked. His CHARACTER is something he works for.

To me this kdrama is more about character and generic issues of love in general and people in general rather than some hot steamy BL encounters. And that is why I like this kdrama. I think the actor who does Hee Su is great in his role and Chun and SW and Ji too. They are really acting in realistic ways and the kdrama feels real.

To me, the value of this kdrama is showing a mix, a diversity of people who get along well. I think the potential of this kdrama is to make the lgbt+ ppl more socially acceptable. Hee Su is a really nice kid. All characters are. They are vulnerable, open, honest as much as they muster, often brave, or scared, and making steps forward.

Well except Hee Su. He was brave enough to hang out witih Chun but he was so stagnated there, never making a move forward, ignoring his own inner preferences, scared of societal and Chun's rejection.
THEN WE HAVE SW who openly confeses to his friend Ji, and she doesnt judge him, it was normal, his friend was in love with someone and that someone happened to be male too. That was not a big deal. The big deal is that SW turned out not to be a recluse.

So to me, the value of this kdrama is to show that love is love and people are people.

The value of the straight couple is that it pushed HeeSu into CHANGE. HS was stuck slaving away to adore Chun, and he was a coward. He did NOT plan to confess... he did not plan to make a move... he was scared, he was deeply closeted, and he cheated to keep the status quo. SO NO LOVE WAS POSSIBLE. IN FACT, IT WAS NOT LOVE.
Also SW does not love Hee Su yet. SW is lying to him and praying on him, not saying what his intentions are and who he is. He is a ... stalker LOL it is like having a pet that later turns out to want to eat you. It is unfair to lie to someone and get close to them just for the sake of pouncing on them.
And Hee Su is not ready. He is deeply in the closet, he is using SW for his own self serving interest to keep Chun...

SO ... Hee Su and SW have some growing up to do first before they can date...

is my opinion.

I see plenty of relationship development with Hee Su and SW. At first Hee Su was 100% about Chun and SW was just a little noise. Then SW said hi, asked HS to come to the club, talked to him, waited to go to school, went out to intercept LOL, went out to that coffee shop, ..... ...

The value of the straight couple is that we see that Chun was inspired by honesty of the girl. Chun was bored with stagnation and made a move to GROW.
Hee Su's childish admiration in lying was not inspiring.
Once Chun decided to explore new paths and GROW, HS got forced to do new things, and to meet SW.

Life is like that. Gay and straight realms mix and match in real life. Ppl are one or the other or mix and match. I think the value of this kdrama is to SEE HOW MUCH EASIER it would be for everyone to say up front what they prefer. Most of plots and comedy and hurt of this drama are due to confusion that happened because of hiding and lying adn misunderstandings.

So, from my point of view. I would find it boring and artificial to watch just 2-4 gay gays on dates. I think life is diverse and I think Chun having a girlfriend makes it more interesting, because Chun kinda behaved gay but then the girl inspired him/

And on the personal note: my interaction here was educational. Since I am aware that lgbt+ ppl can experience a heavy harassment, I naively expected that they will be more aware about human condition and deeper finer meanings of life.

I was blamed here as a stupid person because all straight ppl are stupid and dont understand. Unfortunately, the lgbt+ community isnt aware that aids and social prejudice are rampant for straight people too :) Check out syphillis and AIDS and opiates and drugs billboards all over LA, San Fran or NYC.... Every 3rd american has genital herpes... and straight people too fight for social status and acceptance... All women anywhere are a major target of harassment... Any minorities, Natives, brown skin, immigrants, disabled, elderly, .... experience MAJOR MAJOR harassment and societal prejudice. **MAJOR** And of course, the planet Earth itself, so abused. And poor people anywhere. Poor people are actually majority LOL but they are abused more than any minority...

So... if you want some better karma, be nice to others and support other minorities. Which I haven't seen. I have seen only elbowing forward from this group. And it paid off. There are many rich and famous and popular public figures who are lgbt+.

In the usa, so many lgbt+ people are rich and/or famous, they are all over entertainment industry, and all over the public arena, have good jobs, etc, and many vote in very conservative ways and exploit others. Just google "rich and famous lgbt in the USA" and you see links with lists of politicians, billionaires, stars, etc .
I personally have met several sharks who were gay. Not nice at all.

The bottom line is: IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT GROUP YOU BELONG TO.
The only thing that matters is WHAT YOU ARE ON THE INSIDE.
The bottom line is: *****EITHER YOU ARE A JERK OR A NICE PERSON ***** and that is determined on what is INSIDE YOU, your character
JERKS AND GOOD PEOPLE ARE ANYWHERE

if you are straught, you are not automatically evil and dumb, and if you are lgbt+ you are not automatically saintly angelic wise person

SO LET US NOT BLAME ANYTHING ON ANYTHING. if you arent happy, maybe it is not bc of your sexual orientation but bc of your CHARACTER. Wake up and take action. Yeah straight people can be super mean and harmful to lgbt+ but please realize:

****** ANYONE CAN BE MEAN TO ANYONE FOR ANY REASON ****** ppl love to find SOME reason to be mean. So, if you are in some mean environment, then MOVE. Go live in San Francisco, LA or NYC or another big city that provides support. Or somehow change your local environment. If you are a nice person and a hard worker, you WILL find a way to thrive. So do it.

and if you complain that straight people are not nice to lgbt+ ppl, then why be mean to straight people and do EXACTLY what you complain about... ?

I think this is 21st century and it is time to do to others as we wish others do to us. It just makes sense and is a LOT easier, at least in the long run.

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A great start, hiccup, then it got back on track

Written after ep 2:
I like this drama bc it is more of a real thing - the real deal kdrama, like kdramas that made kdramas so popular globally - rather then some netflixed trash that resembles holywood and/or tries to kiss as$ of western $$$$. I understand wanting to make money however, if kdramas are too westernized, they will lose their appeal. Kdramas are the most sophisticated, most refined, most WARM storytelling out there, with character growth and positive messages. THat is what makes kdramas so awesome.

Let's make some amazing kdramas.

This drama is about normal people living normal lives
The story is interesting and it moves relatively fast
and there is character growth already in the first 2 episodes. That scared FL had to train so hard to get up and speak up. And she did it!!!!!! Bravo!

Yeah yeah yeah ppl say the cold dude ... but is he really.... ? There are plenty super warm and cuddly friendly scenes already - dont miss that.

I say, keep going, this looks like a new classic in the making.

Written after ep.5:
FRUSTRATION - the script took a U turn and made the ML a totally one-dimensional closed off mean person. All his good qualities GONE. So that is boring to watch. The actor is bad in acting mean scenes, and his grumpy face is unpleasant to watch non stop. Get him off :)

Written after ep 7:
I think something is wrong with the script, it is not moving fast enough, th explanations and the growth just do not happen
When that dude was missing for a month, he had plenty of time to self reflect.. but did he?? and we still don't know what he was thinking about and what bothers him

Written after ep 8:
OH IT IS BACK ON TRACK!!!! ML had to be hit hard and fast with karma to even start getting his life back on track...

So ML now again behaves as a normal human being, which is really interensting to watch because ML actor is EXCELLENT in acting complexities.

ANd the script took some severe twists where all kinds of revelations happened... so we are getting more insights on the characters.

FL is an amazing communicator, she honestly speaks her mind and that forces ML to speak his mind. Both of them are smart and have common sense, so the conversations are AMAZING.
The scenes in ep 9 them talking about using the office space, etc are JUST AMAZING

ML is an excellent actor and gets a lot of screen time full face on, because he CAN act long complicated complex scenes... he is really AMAZING actor, he makes it look real
and FL is a newbie but bc of him, her acting improved.

I respect FL. She is from a disfunctional family and poor, but she has common sense, she self reflects, and she keeps trying to make her life better. She is an honest person who communicates honestly.
Yeah she is a young woman and can be petty and annoying but she is entitled to be less than perfect. I personaly just wish that the FL actress stop puckering her lips to make herself look cute. It is NOT cute.
FL character is very strong and does not need those kinds of sillies.

Overall, I root for the FL as someone who is growing into a strong, honest, caring and successful woman.

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The most scandalous thing to me are the comments from the audience!!! so many people belittle the FL as clingy, annoying etc and do not even comment on the ML who was a real douchebag, refused FL with some major doodoo lies, and prostituted himself in a contract marriage for $$$$. But people keep attacking the FL bc she insisted that ML give her an honest explanation for refusing her.

ML is a cold and calculated dude who opened his own company and since he needed employees fast, he hired FL without ever thinking if she is gonna like seeing him or not.
Nobody commented on THAT. But they commented on how annoying and clingy FL was bc she complained about his intrusion in her space after everything nasty he said to her to refuse her.

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My honest opinion is that ML loves FL a lot but does not know it.
His actions around her and he taking her for granted, that she will always be there and be nice, his relying on her, and his almost crying when she was crying, his jumping to help her...
are all signs he DEEPLY BELIEVES SHE IS HIS WOMAN

and so WHY he isnt admitting that to himself? WHAT IS THERE?

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Another great young actor coming up is ML's younger brother. That actor is very handsome and also acts his role with a great conviction and as-if-real, so I predict him a great acting career.

The villain cheabol mom is also great as a villain :)

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