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what are the merits of a good husband and father? this show definitely asks that. i am curious to see what happens going forward because i think that ji won is constantly putting this person above herself. in a way she is unreliable as we see her POV because of these feelings. this may be how we end up with the conclusion that staying is valiant just because of him and love. after 14 years and insane breeches of trust; what about the repercussions? why are we so ready to forgive? i don't think she will the more she learns and in reality this is going to take years of therapy. this is such a traumatic event and will continue to be so. there's perils to devotion.

that's a lot of pain that one must endure and i do not agree with it. not for love, not as a person, not as a woman. i do not think it is fair and she would be justified in a poor reaction. it's actually really sad that for some reason what i am voicing is difficult to grasp. whatever she decides is certainly her choice but there's a lot of outside influences making it so. she owes him nothing in return for 14 years of massive lies. like the presentation of his behavior to her is so flippant and there's so much responsibility put on her to make sure he's understood. insane emotional labor

what happens if the writers then conclude he is an insane serial killer? just because you're not an "outright" monster does not mean you didn't make a disgusting life-changing selfish mistake that you must face the consequences for.

while i agree with you about the opinions many people discriminate against women and female actresses esp for kdramas and def dont give them as much leeway. gender is really important and it applies which is why people talk about it. just like race and class. the show is about a dude who was abused and that's a huge societal issue....so yea it's all relevant

agree with you here. there's female characters whose actress i believe could do a MUCH better job but i love their characters. everyone has their reactions and charms. MCW is definitely earnest about her job at least and that shows...want the best for ji won (i want to see her MAD)

are people hating on her bc they like the actor dude? i think it is possible. but i haven't really seen it. her acting being good is not a FACT but fine that one feels that way. most comments are positive towards the show and her and when people have a bit of dissent there's such a reaction. people may be wrong even but jesus not everything can be the same. and there's a reason why people say what they do just like there's a reason why people really enjoy watching her. from a technical standpoint i genuinely do not like her technique and think it should be adjusted....so what?

also logical about love...i just think that when you live a life with someone you love that deceit is a huge huge huge huge HUGE issue and it needs to be dealt with as such. and i, personally, do not feel that it is her responsibility to help this man find his feelings. my question is: do we always have to stand by someone especially our male partner? even with love how could this possibly be amended? this is such an egregious breach of trust to me—staying when one is cheated on is even hard for me to understand and that in itself is HUGE. this is even bigger.

and does it mean she must give up a part of herself for him? just because it is love doesn't mean these aren't valuable questions. and the show acknowledges that in its own way. i hope they handle it accordingly. because i sincerely fight against the notion of her sacrifice for someone and having to take care of him and foster him into more humanity. that's a burden. i think maybe they aren't handling the issues of motherhood and being a wife in maybe the most adept way while highlighting that motherhood and growing up in poor environments effect you immensely.

this is all my opinion and esp within the context i see the world. i also dislike the police force and there are legitimate explainable reasons for it. i do not think they embody justice nor are the arbiters.

seriously there's 1k comments and most of them are not criticisms but there's lots of talk about how people shouldn't voice any opinion that is different. yes some people are going to be rude but the responses are completely disproportionate and many are so rude in return for absolutely no reason. mostly everyone here feels the same way so then different thoughts bother others. it's an internet thing but people should really not get so personally offended when someone talks about something in a "negative" way. esp if they aren't being particularly rude. this is what discussions are for. i do not understand what many of you want...all praise? that's not how this works. it's extremely offputting why on earth would we want nothing challenged. i just don't understand this.

do u have her contact info?

i think they have great chemistry! although i do not find it romantic i don't think her acting affects their chemistry. that is one mark of someone who at least does know how to do their craft a bit well (in my opinion.)

i think sometimes the artificiality works but personally like for ep 6 when she was in the car in the beginning and then the ending it's just not how i prefer it.

also i meant romantically as in: i just dont believe in their love but that's from a story perspective. so many people really like their relationship and its significance like married life issues, trust, heavy topics, abuse, etc...

and my thoughts are very different but it doesn't upset me...i just see things differently and find it cool to discuss it. just like people thinking her acting is good—there's no value judgement.

there's a reason people like to watch her obviously. i may not understand or agree but i don't discount the very real responses people have. however, critique isn't always going to be "nice" and that's ok. it's certainly not a terrible show and she isn't bad enough for it to be unwatchable. i think people identify so heavily with the things they like that anything even remotely different is seen as a slight and it makes it frustrating to engage. there's a hivemind on things honestly!

no one has to prove anything to us wrt her acting or a critique unless they want to actually discuss it instead of trying to rule over our responses to a work. i hope this makes sense...

i feel the same way about nam ki ae btw like she is not really someone i enjoy watching or hearing but i have seen her in countless amount of dramas i like!

i appreciate your reply because i definitely agree with you in they want to portray the fakeness. i have more to say but i'll stop here, but i get you!

godspeed!!!!

slow. there just wasnt enough information and i was honestly bored. thought about giving up lmao it took me a couple of tries.

i dont see why not but to each their own

like pacrim? i am not a fan of krystal at all but this seems interesting!

I dont think thats good for marriage but Best of luck to you

no! i'm surprised his other roles have been so differnt. i havent watched any other thing he's in. he's really good. i will check out some interviews bc i love when actors have a totally diff personality heh

finished ep 6—sped thru the eps but wanted to make sure i got it all. also i am curious still about it. not in love but it certainly is engaging.

i for one think she should go as crazy as she wants and be as suspicious as she wants and i dont think she owes him anything. she deserves to be happy. i finished ep 6 and im actually proud of her partly. but it's just sad to me that there's this totally twisted view of love and life and a role a person can take on. and also the cops suck. speaking of acting nam ki ae is one of my least favorite actresses bc i do not mesh with her acting style AT ALL (and gee it's fine.)

anyway im proud of ji won for making a decision but now im ready for some revenge and fights and also kicking him out. i would love to see his misery. and to find out who did it. but really some emotional consequences must be made IDC IDC and i also get that she only believes what she sees but that isnt actually a plus when ur a detective. i think that's part of the issue presented with her. anyways expose ha (ur husband)

edit: actually u know what would be cool they turn in2 a fugitive family on the run >:)

26??????? omfg when he wa sblowing out the candles i thought it said '30' and i got rly concerned for myself. he doesnt look 38 though that's for sure

she has a style that some people don't mesh with. i wouldn't call her amazing. like you don't have to be an expert to see that. i act and do film, so does that make me an expert? it makes no sense. you're right about people on here having low standards here but saying that there is no truth to it isn't factual bc that's an opinion. there's examples of her type of acting working (to me) but here it doesn't. IE she has very mechanical responses and i can tell she is thinking about her moves, and playing a certain character, instead of a smoother transition into herself as ji won. that's fine, i don't think it fits for this detective but i can explain to you the issues.

i do not like her coordination, her movement, her expressions and i can go on but it's fine. a lot of people like it. there's actresses i even support and like that have had performances in shows i love that i cannot stand for certain things. it's ok to criticize esp when there's things that resound with our emotional response to acting. the response to this is not simply people "not knowing" or "not speaking the language" ESP bc it's an art form that literally plays on our emotions immediately as it is supposed to. language is a huge part of it but being able to convey via your language and body etc it transcends literal meanings that's the reason why people act. this can all be within the context of the ways in which korean media also likes to present itself (way more dramatic) it's not rocket science

hmm interesting points and lol im fine and not mad. it's just weird to see. i disagree but clearly i am the minority

you're right about the men usually better written. subbed on viki! i didn't realize how intriguing i found him until he was with the reporter and i was like wow i don't want to stop even though there are aspects that don't mesh with me.

it depends on the character and context. i think his character here is fascinating but i, personally, think that means that this can't end well and it shouldn't. he's interesting but he's a liar and untrustworthy. we watch him cos it's hard to figure it out. but i will never want the best for him if that makes sense (?)

there's also a diff between liking the way a character is written and then liking their character. so for example in sky castle i loved the way the women were written and watching them but i didn't like them (because ...omg)

anyway it's all context. i can take anyone as long as they grow during a storyline (for better or worse) and are people that are capable of standing on their own. it's much harder for people to write female characters who are complex in any way. like ji won's weakness for sure is love but that doesn't mean she isn't good at her job. i hope this makes sense. i just look for good writing lmao and sometimes the acting makes or breaks it

sorry that's vague it was very hard to answer. i think it's so based on like the person you are. i was gonna say "anyone who is interesting" and/or "anyone i want to watch" but that's so subjective hahahah

it's actually weird how she's being praised for being calm and objective lmao like...what? she's a human being and this dude is fucking with her. i guss shes just supposed to sit there and take care of their child

SHE SHOULD THINK HE'S GUILTY oh my god like it's so dangerous to even stay in this situation and she IS what do people want from her????? complete lack of respect for women tbh