I am not sure where some of you is watching it but the subs in the Youtube version is messed up so context may be lost.
That "Its your fault" (38:36) was not in the right sequence. Thats not what he said. That part Chi Cheng said: "Wang Shuo, I don't love you anymore".
The other parts where the subs was stuffed up was when he said that in these past years what had affected him the most was him not having that answer. But since WSW gave him the answer(through what actually happened back then), he came to realized that he(Chi Cheng) really do not love Wang Shuo anymore
And then in duration 39:40, Chi Cheng said "Didn't you asked me before why I care that you left for 7 years, but never asked about what you and GCY did back then? Now I can give you the answer, because what really hurts me the most is your decision(decisiveness) back then and not your betrayal. I hate that you never gave me an explaination and you left without a trace for 7 years.
So in that scene he didn't blame Wang Shuo.... he was giving him the answer and the closure they both need that they cannot return to how they were like before because his heart no longer belongs to him or have him(Wang Shuo) in it. His heart now completely belongs to WSW.
People should just go rewatch that episode when the subs is better before you jump on the Chi Cheng hate train again especially when Chi Cheng did NOTHING wrong in that scene!
That is the closure that both Chi Cheng and Wang Shuo need.
I think how Chi Cheng said it now is more powerful than saying it in episode 17 because Wang Shuo always thought that if Chi Cheng found out the truth back then that Wang Shuo never betrayed him, he will get back together with him, but the fact that Chi Cheng said it after he broke up with WSW shows that no matter what, Chi Cheng no longer loves Wang Shuo anymore because it wasn't about the betrayal back then but it was Wang Shuo's decision to did what he did and then left for 7 years without a trace and without giving him that answer. This is not something , no matter how many videos he proved that he didn't betray him can win Chi Cheng back because he already said it, in those 6 years his heart was still his... but from the 7th year, it no longer belonged to him, especially since now the one he loves is WSW despite they broke up but his heart now completely belongs to WSW
I actually love that scene on my side though because Chi Cheng was really giving Wang Shuo that answer and making it clear between them. Finally they both, especially Chi Cheng can have that closure. There is no hate between them. Chi Cheng just wants him to continue to be himself despite they can't be together as lovers. Chi Cheng is genuinely a good person at heart to those he cares about and he is such a misunderstood character to those who doesn't understand him...
Okay so currently cc is out of suspicion that he had feeling guilty for wsBut the fact that he blamed ws for all…
The subtitles was messed up in the YT version...
That "Its your fault" (38:36) was not in the right sequence. Thats not what he said. That part Chi Cheng said: "Wang Shuo, I don't love you anymore".
The other parts where the subs was stuffed up was when he said that in these past years what had affected him the most was him not having that answer. But since WSW gave him the answer(through what actually happened back then), he came to realized that he(Chi Cheng) really do not love Wang Shuo anymore
And then in duration 39:40, Chi Cheng said "Didn't you asked me before why I care that you left for 7 years, but never asked about what you and GCY did back then? Now I can give you the answer, because what really hurts me the most is your decision(decisiveness) back then and not your betrayal. I hate that you never gave me an explaination and you left without a trace for 7 years.
So in that scene he didn't blame Wang Shuo.... he was giving him the answer and the closure they both need that they cannot return to how they were like before because his heart no longer belongs to him or have him(Wang Shuo) in it. His heart now completely belongs to WSW.
If you think Chi Cheng is blaming Wang Shuo, then you need to watch that episode again when the subs is better to understand the context...
This was really a good episode yall. The build up from all the frustrations due tomisunderstandings, leading to…
Agree and Well said! Chi Cheng seems like a very misunderstood character to those who cannot understand him emotionally like that.
I for one love Chi Cheng in this episode and it really shows us VERY CLEARLY that despite Chi Cheng found out about the whole truth, his first instinct was to trust WSW (when he said he is overthinking this), and when he said as long as WSW nod that he did love him(CC) he will let this all go and will forgive WSW(that scene made me cry), honestly it is very clear that Chi Cheng only ever love Wei Wei now....he no longer loves WS and that scene where he goes to him to tell him was the final closure they both needed on their side...
Chi Cheng crying in the car will always be highlighted as one of my fav moments in this episode.
Sorry Chi Cheng, I love you but you really brought out your emotions so well in that scene. That is why I love that scene because I can feel what you're feeling and you made me ππ in that scene too.
This episode was really heartbreaking for me. The fact when after Chi Cheng found out about Yue Yue from WSW's mother and how she told him that they've been in contact and have plans to get back together, omg, another misunderstanding but when Chi Cheng said he must be overthinking this, that really hurts because a part of him still believes in WSW on his side.
Even when he found out about the notebook, he still waited for WSW to come back and give him an explaination, an answer and what REALLY made me cry was when Chi Cheng said to WSW that he doesn't care if he used him in the past, as long as he nod and say he did love him now, he will let it all go and he will forgive WSW on his end...
But WSW was really cruel when he said what he said to hurt Chi Cheng and oh yes he hurt himself too....But I really want to give Chi Cheng a hug in that scene since that was really hurtful coming from someone he loves...
I really cried when Chi Cheng was driving in his car and this is the first time I saw him cry too πππππππ Tian did a very good job expressing his emotions in that scene though. That whole break up scene was done very well by both parties...
And YouTube subtitles stopped working in that vital part when Chi Cheng told WS he no longer loves him and that his heart now completely belongs to WSW despite they've broken up now..
I honestly felt like this break up is needed for them to go through that development phase at least now Wei Wei have that weight off his shoulder.. and it is rather sad because when you think about it, what he was afraid of the most in telling Chi Cheng before... would NOT have become like this if he simply was being honest and told Chi Cheng he loved him... as long as he nod, Chi Cheng will forget about all that. That is the extent he loves him but WSW didn't understand just how much Chi Cheng loves him and misunderstood that he still have feelings for his ex when he no longer does...
An inevitable break up. But it is needed...now I can't wait for them to patch things up and get back together.
And don't let me see WZ again he really annoys me!
Yes , he's a man of his words, he values what Wei Wei gets for him and he said he will wear it for the rest of his life, he meant it π₯Ήπ this also makes me love Chi Cheng more too π
People sure have keen eyes, I didn't even noticed that Chi Cheng was wearing the pants Wei Wei bought for him here https://x.com/that_breeze/status/1952370609696264675?s=19 , and he's a man of improvisation by wearing boots since it was too short but boots looks good on him too
I think what they are mad about is, the text message that was said in the phone. I didn't see the text message…
That's why I've been saying they honestly need to "break up" and get this shit and drama over and done with
Honestly if you look at either perspective both had their faults, from CC perspectives I felt like he had it hard. He's going through a lot right now and when WSW spends private time, even spends a night at WZ house, I can understand why he was upset and mad at WSW.
I liked that he got mad and kicked WSW out the house because it actually allows him to reflect on his own actions to be honest..
Tbh the change in tone was easier than i expected. Chi Cheng thrown WSW out of the house so coldly so i thought…
If you see this from Chi Cheng's pov, it is not hard to see why he is affected by all this. This is 7 YEARS long of unresolved issues he had boggled up inside him.
Just like how JXS cannot move on from his Ex, because of the "past memories", if people can understand that JXS doesn't love or have romantic feelings for his Ex anymore, why can't people understand what Chi Cheng is going through is a similar situation, that he needs closure, this closure of unresolved conflicts that had scarred him for 7 YEARS.
Chi Cheng had made it clear over and over again (I don't know how much more he need to say in your/viewers face) that he doesn't love/have romantic feelings for Wang Shuo anymore
Being affected by those past memories is what makes him human, and not someone who is heartless, but you can hold onto those memories of the past that affects him without having romantic feelings for said person anymore.
Chi Cheng deserves every sympathy here, especially when people is quick to judge him and I honestly, felt like at this point, those who just understands all characters perspectives except Chi Cheng really is not emotional mature in that level to understand the complexity his character is going through.
I don't get it either. I love both of them but both of them are also messed up and neither of them are angels.…
The double standard in this fandom really annoys the hell out of me and I am labelling those who hates Chi Cheng as emotionally irrational and someone who can't understand complex characters at this point.
Just here to say, In my opinion, the misunderstandings happening between our favourite couple is actually because…
That is what I've been saying omg!! Their Chi Cheng hate train is so forced and irrational!!
As soon as we point out that WSW has done things to contribute to the misunderstanding people will try to shove it under the rug and say he has his reasons etc etc
Honestly the double standard in this fandom really pisses me off.
I already knew there's going to be bad takes when this ep came out. Now I'm seeing on twitter people are getting…
I think what they are mad about is, the text message that was said in the phone. I didn't see the text message clearly in the pv, but someone translated it and said WZ ask WSW if he is coming tonight, WSW replied something like yes, see you tonight with a smily emoji".
WSW knows very very clearly that this will make Chi Cheng jealous, and Chi Cheng has been very tolerant with WSW, despite he has been going through a shit load of things right now.
From our perspective we believed and trust WSW don't have romantic feelings for WZ but the thing is, when Chi Cheng saw that message ofcourse he will be jealous and angry.
That is why fans are upset at WSW. Because he was the reason why Chi Cheng end up hitting WZ in the ep 18 pv judging by the ep 18 pv.
Heck I am upset that WSW stayed over at WZ house when I wanted him to go home or at least stayed at JXS house. What I don't like is that despite WSW know how Chi Cheng doesn't like it but him not keeping a distance with WZ and being comfortably close with him despite he sees him like an "idol", this will give the other party the wrong feeling and idea and this will hurt Chi Cheng.
The fact that WSW admitted that he did it to make Chi Cheng jealous in ep 17 proves that he did it on purpose and wasn't being considerate to Chi Cheng's feelings.
At the end of the day, both CC and WSW isn't an angel or saint and they both have actions that contribute and builds on this misunderstanding so neither side is perfect but at least on Chi Cheng, the misunderstanding was unintentional(because of his mother), but what WSW part was intentional on his side when he wanted to make Chi Cheng jealous and that imo is much worst.
Like heck i love both Chi Cheng and Wei Wei but they need to really sit down and sort out this misunderstanding. That is why I want them to break up not because I don't like them but because I want this whole misunderstanding and angst era to end and come out stronger with each other at the end of all this.
That "Its your fault" (38:36) was not in the right sequence. Thats not what he said. That part Chi Cheng said: "Wang Shuo, I don't love you anymore".
The other parts where the subs was stuffed up was when he said that in these past years what had affected him the most was him not having that answer. But since WSW gave him the answer(through what actually happened back then), he came to realized that he(Chi Cheng) really do not love Wang Shuo anymore
And then in duration 39:40, Chi Cheng said "Didn't you asked me before why I care that you left for 7 years, but never asked about what you and GCY did back then? Now I can give you the answer, because what really hurts me the most is your decision(decisiveness) back then and not your betrayal. I hate that you never gave me an explaination and you left without a trace for 7 years.
So in that scene he didn't blame Wang Shuo.... he was giving him the answer and the closure they both need that they cannot return to how they were like before because his heart no longer belongs to him or have him(Wang Shuo) in it. His heart now completely belongs to WSW.
People should just go rewatch that episode when the subs is better before you jump on the Chi Cheng hate train again especially when Chi Cheng did NOTHING wrong in that scene!
That is the closure that both Chi Cheng and Wang Shuo need.
I think how Chi Cheng said it now is more powerful than saying it in episode 17 because Wang Shuo always thought that if Chi Cheng found out the truth back then that Wang Shuo never betrayed him, he will get back together with him, but the fact that Chi Cheng said it after he broke up with WSW shows that no matter what, Chi Cheng no longer loves Wang Shuo anymore because it wasn't about the betrayal back then but it was Wang Shuo's decision to did what he did and then left for 7 years without a trace and without giving him that answer. This is not something , no matter how many videos he proved that he didn't betray him can win Chi Cheng back because he already said it, in those 6 years his heart was still his... but from the 7th year, it no longer belonged to him, especially since now the one he loves is WSW despite they broke up but his heart now completely belongs to WSW
I actually love that scene on my side though because Chi Cheng was really giving Wang Shuo that answer and making it clear between them. Finally they both, especially Chi Cheng can have that closure. There is no hate between them. Chi Cheng just wants him to continue to be himself despite they can't be together as lovers. Chi Cheng is genuinely a good person at heart to those he cares about and he is such a misunderstood character to those who doesn't understand him...
That "Its your fault" (38:36) was not in the right sequence. Thats not what he said. That part Chi Cheng said: "Wang Shuo, I don't love you anymore".
The other parts where the subs was stuffed up was when he said that in these past years what had affected him the most was him not having that answer. But since WSW gave him the answer(through what actually happened back then), he came to realized that he(Chi Cheng) really do not love Wang Shuo anymore
And then in duration 39:40, Chi Cheng said "Didn't you asked me before why I care that you left for 7 years, but never asked about what you and GCY did back then? Now I can give you the answer, because what really hurts me the most is your decision(decisiveness) back then and not your betrayal. I hate that you never gave me an explaination and you left without a trace for 7 years.
So in that scene he didn't blame Wang Shuo.... he was giving him the answer and the closure they both need that they cannot return to how they were like before because his heart no longer belongs to him or have him(Wang Shuo) in it. His heart now completely belongs to WSW.
If you think Chi Cheng is blaming Wang Shuo, then you need to watch that episode again when the subs is better to understand the context...
Chi Cheng did NOTHING wrong in that scene!
I for one love Chi Cheng in this episode and it really shows us VERY CLEARLY that despite Chi Cheng found out about the whole truth, his first instinct was to trust WSW (when he said he is overthinking this), and when he said as long as WSW nod that he did love him(CC) he will let this all go and will forgive WSW(that scene made me cry), honestly it is very clear that Chi Cheng only ever love Wei Wei now....he no longer loves WS and that scene where he goes to him to tell him was the final closure they both needed on their side...
Sorry Chi Cheng, I love you but you really brought out your emotions so well in that scene. That is why I love that scene because I can feel what you're feeling and you made me ππ in that scene too.
You really do deserve a hug π« imo.
Maybe they should watch that scene in slow motion to comprehend the context!
Even when he found out about the notebook, he still waited for WSW to come back and give him an explaination, an answer and what REALLY made me cry was when Chi Cheng said to WSW that he doesn't care if he used him in the past, as long as he nod and say he did love him now, he will let it all go and he will forgive WSW on his end...
But WSW was really cruel when he said what he said to hurt Chi Cheng and oh yes he hurt himself too....But I really want to give Chi Cheng a hug in that scene since that was really hurtful coming from someone he loves...
I really cried when Chi Cheng was driving in his car and this is the first time I saw him cry too πππππππ Tian did a very good job expressing his emotions in that scene though. That whole break up scene was done very well by both parties...
And YouTube subtitles stopped working in that vital part when Chi Cheng told WS he no longer loves him and that his heart now completely belongs to WSW despite they've broken up now..
I honestly felt like this break up is needed for them to go through that development phase at least now Wei Wei have that weight off his shoulder.. and it is rather sad because when you think about it, what he was afraid of the most in telling Chi Cheng before... would NOT have become like this if he simply was being honest and told Chi Cheng he loved him... as long as he nod, Chi Cheng will forget about all that. That is the extent he loves him but WSW didn't understand just how much Chi Cheng loves him and misunderstood that he still have feelings for his ex when he no longer does...
An inevitable break up. But it is needed...now I can't wait for them to patch things up and get back together.
And don't let me see WZ again he really annoys me!
https://kisskh.at/photos/DkzmJz_3
Those precious polaroids in their house which has their BTS photos, some stills and some personal photos.
But what I really love is that quote... he really loves his Wei Wei a lot. This is going to hurt him a lot when he finds out the truth
For reference: https://x.com/that_breeze/status/1952519884631347537?s=19
Honestly if you look at either perspective both had their faults, from CC perspectives I felt like he had it hard. He's going through a lot right now and when WSW spends private time, even spends a night at WZ house, I can understand why he was upset and mad at WSW.
I liked that he got mad and kicked WSW out the house because it actually allows him to reflect on his own actions to be honest..
Just like how JXS cannot move on from his Ex, because of the "past memories", if people can understand that JXS doesn't love or have romantic feelings for his Ex anymore, why can't people understand what Chi Cheng is going through is a similar situation, that he needs closure, this closure of unresolved conflicts that had scarred him for 7 YEARS.
Chi Cheng had made it clear over and over again (I don't know how much more he need to say in your/viewers face) that he doesn't love/have romantic feelings for Wang Shuo anymore
Being affected by those past memories is what makes him human, and not someone who is heartless, but you can hold onto those memories of the past that affects him without having romantic feelings for said person anymore.
Chi Cheng deserves every sympathy here, especially when people is quick to judge him and I honestly, felt like at this point, those who just understands all characters perspectives except Chi Cheng really is not emotional mature in that level to understand the complexity his character is going through.
As soon as we point out that WSW has done things to contribute to the misunderstanding people will try to shove it under the rug and say he has his reasons etc etc
Honestly the double standard in this fandom really pisses me off.
WSW knows very very clearly that this will make Chi Cheng jealous, and Chi Cheng has been very tolerant with WSW, despite he has been going through a shit load of things right now.
From our perspective we believed and trust WSW don't have romantic feelings for WZ but the thing is, when Chi Cheng saw that message ofcourse he will be jealous and angry.
That is why fans are upset at WSW. Because he was the reason why Chi Cheng end up hitting WZ in the ep 18 pv judging by the ep 18 pv.
Heck I am upset that WSW stayed over at WZ house when I wanted him to go home or at least stayed at JXS house. What I don't like is that despite WSW know how Chi Cheng doesn't like it but him not keeping a distance with WZ and being comfortably close with him despite he sees him like an "idol", this will give the other party the wrong feeling and idea and this will hurt Chi Cheng.
The fact that WSW admitted that he did it to make Chi Cheng jealous in ep 17 proves that he did it on purpose and wasn't being considerate to Chi Cheng's feelings.
At the end of the day, both CC and WSW isn't an angel or saint and they both have actions that contribute and builds on this misunderstanding so neither side is perfect but at least on Chi Cheng, the misunderstanding was unintentional(because of his mother), but what WSW part was intentional on his side when he wanted to make Chi Cheng jealous and that imo is much worst.
Like heck i love both Chi Cheng and Wei Wei but they need to really sit down and sort out this misunderstanding. That is why I want them to break up not because I don't like them but because I want this whole misunderstanding and angst era to end and come out stronger with each other at the end of all this.