So I watched a Hei Jue edit on douyin and suddenly I just fell sad. He lost his pure self which this the "bai"…
I felt the same way, about Hei Jue, where when he wears black, it makes me feel sad because of the symbolic behind it, but at the same time, another part of me, finds him extra handsome in black lol. To me, whether he wears black, white, or any other colours, he looks handsome either way! Black just gives him the more mysterious, badass vibe (like he's hiding something, whether it's his plan from Hou Chi/Shang Gu, and how he's been silently enduring all this/hurt on his end). I still love him though. To me, I see Bai Jue's love for her is selfless, which makes me love him even more.
I think that the last 15 episodes are the best parts of the entire drama. Those who endured the draggy middle…
I am not satisfied with that ending to be honest. I wanted an extended moment between them, so I always feel inclined to rewatch the beginning again of their times back then in the God Realm just to get my Bai Jue and Shang Gu interaction from back then.
Honestly, I am having trouble withdrawing from this drama lol so I've been on a loop to watch again and again again lol
Though the story seems nice and I absolutely love the ML, to me the pairing of the leads was strange. FL on screen…
To be honest, at first when I first got into the drama, I was among those who wanted a prettier actress to be paired with Xu Kai and for the FL, but then, I kept an open mind about her, and I'm glad I did, because her acting convinced me she was meant for this role. She did take me a while to warm up to but, once I am convinced with Zhou Dong Yu acting, I felt like she was made for this role, and I also love her chemistry with Xu Kai as well, both of them made the characters, Bai Jue and Shang Gu, Qing Mu and Hou Chi loveable to me, and that made me glad to give her a benefit of the doubt, and after getting into the story, and with several rewatch, I came to find that Zhou Dong Yu has a natural beauty. Beauty does not have to be judged at face value, she have a natural beauty imo, which made her character convincing and made her fitted for her role as Shang Gu.
I wouldn't want another actress to replace her for Shang Gu if there's a season 2, and the same goes to Xu Kai, if there's a season 2, I hope both Xu Kai and Zhou Dong Yu can return to play Bai Jue and Shang Gu again.
This is waaaaaay better than Ashes of Love imo. So I can't relate to your preference here! For me, ML and FL is…
I said mistreated as in, when he does something wrong, he get scolded. But when Xu Feng does something wrong i.e. taking someone else's fiance THAT is morally wrong when she is still engaged, but no one seems to be saying anything about that. People forgive Xu Feng for that, when he and Jin Mi did that behind Run Yu's back. When Jin Mi is still engaged to Run Yu, and when Run Yu was still mourning for his own mother's death, which oh, by the way was killed by Xu Feng's mother.... Did Xu Feng considered about Run Yu's feelings here, when he did all that? NO... Run Yu is written sympathetically, that makes me feel sorry for him. He is mistreated because the writers written him as a character to treat him poorly, and make him suffer from all these injustices, so this is why I personally hate the writers to AOL on my end. Having the emperor does not make him happy. If the writers cared for him at all, he would have Run Yu returned Kuang Lu's feelings (I think that's her name)... But NO, the writers have to express that Run Yu in the end, wasn't happy. I literally have to crack my own ending, that in the end, in the near future, Run Yu can return Kuang Lu's feelings and be happy with her, because him sitting on the throne being alone like that, with that kind of ending, is not a happy ending.. If they didn't show that, I would have seen that he is at least happy. But honestly, I have nothing but criticisms in the writing for AOL.
I love Run Yu as a character, but at the same time, I disagree with you about how he is not mistreated. Any fans of Run Yu would know that because of what happened in AOL, we are glad that there's 'And the Winner is Love' exists, because at least we can take that as an AU where Yunxi character can be treated better than the shit he was given in AOL. I love Run Yu, but at the same time, I hate how the writers make him suffered so much, not even in the end, he was happy.
I only replied because you replied to me about the mistreatment, for me I see it differently, but I don't want to get into this topic again, since this thread belongs to ALP, not AOL.
This is waaaaaay better than Ashes of Love imo. So I can't relate to your preference here! For me, ML and FL is…
The whole reason why I don't like to talk about AOL, is because everytime it is brought up I am reminded how the writers just cruelly mistreated Run Yu. So yeah, we can stop with this AOL business, since this is about ALP anyways.
To me, in terms of writing and characters & pairings, it will always be ALP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOL LOL
This is waaaaaay better than Ashes of Love imo. So I can't relate to your preference here! For me, ML and FL is…
He never wanted the throne on his end, but I don't think we will be agreeing here. Ultimately, I felt sorry for Run Yu the most, because of how the writers have made him suffered so much in that story.
I wanted him to give up on Jin Mi because he will be happier that way, but I hated how the writers wrote that ending, because you clearly see that not even in the end, he was happy. This is why I can never like AOL, I blame the writers for everything. He just created the character (Run Yu) to mistreat him. I can never forgive the writers. I pity Run Yu, I think he deserves happiness too, but I HATE the writers for being unfair to Run Yu in the overall. They should have given his happy ending with Kuang Lu (that's the girls name I think), so he can be happy.. All I can do is just crack my own happy ending, well, who cares about AOL. In the end, I am just glad I got my 'And the Winner is Love' for an alternate happy ending for my favourite character, since I can't stand the main couple in AOL (Jin Mi is not even loveable, don't understand the appeals of her character on my end!)
This is waaaaaay better than Ashes of Love imo. So I can't relate to your preference here! For me, ML and FL is…
You can literally blame the writers to AOL, since I hated how the story was written, I hated seeing two brothers who were once closed, fight over a woman, I wanted Run Yu to move on so he can find his happiness, because Jin Mi did NOT deserve his(Run Yu's) love and devotion.
Honestly, to me, the real victim that have been mistreated here in the entirety of the story is Run Yu, this is why I don't love the story to AOL. So many problematics, but in the end, just because Xu Feng and Jin Mi is the main leads, they get their happy ending.
This is waaaaaay better than Ashes of Love imo. So I can't relate to your preference here! For me, ML and FL is…
Then you should reply to the person who did it too, not just me.
I am honestly tired of seeing people referencing and comparing ALP to AOL, at first I just ignored it and scrolled past their comment, but this time I decided to speak up and state my honest opinions. With how the original person word their comment that way. With these comparison, I hope they stop, since not everyone is a fan to AOL here, and saying something like "ALP reminds them of AOL" is really an insult imo, since these two dramas, story, characters and romance have nothing in common at all, aside from the fact that it's both Xianxia genre. So I hope that people who is just lurking in the comment section not take it the wrong way, because ALP is NOT similar to AOL at all, ofcourse we each have our own preference in loving a drama, and that's fine, but not everyone feels and love it the same way as some others who does.
If you love both dramas, then that's good for you.
This is waaaaaay better than Ashes of Love imo. So I can't relate to your preference here! For me, ML and FL is…
"No need compare AOL and ALP" <-- You should say it to those people who have been doing it to begin with, not me. I wasn't the one who start off comparing ALP to AOL as you can see from the person who originally made this comment, and I don't like comparing ALP to AOL, because I see that as an insult to ALP, since I love ALP and dislike AOL.
If someone go and recommend ALP to me, and said it reminds them of AOL, then I will totally stay away from it, so FYI, I am one of them who don't like these comparisons, I've seen it a few times in here, where people compare it, not me though. So your comment should direct it to those people(you are replying to the wrong person here). I simply just sorta had enough of the comparison and decide to speak up this time on my end from my views/opinions between the two dramas.
You can like AOL, not my problem here, but to me, I don't and I do feel that AOL is overrated. ALP is heaps better in all aspects for me, but ofcourse I don't expect you to agree to this, so each to our preference here
Ep 41 happens to be the eps I have a hard time going back to watching each time, I feel so much emotions in that episode. I feel for Bai Jue, Hou Chi, Gu Jun so much in that episode. That episode just makes me hate Wu Huan, Jing Zhao, Mu Guang and Jing Yang even more LOL
This is waaaaaay better than Ashes of Love imo. So I can't relate to your preference here! For me, ML and FL is…
Oh, that I definitely agree about Shang Gu was never dumb or clueless, compared to Jin Mi, Shang Gu is heaps better than her, one thing I love about Shang Gu is she's NOT naive, and she won't let others say to have her misunderstood the man she loves. She would prefer to hear it from him, or see it with her own eyes to believe it.
Shang Gu is so much more loveable in terms of her character, that as well, with how she treats everyone with respect, and she definitely has proven her worth to those haters. She also works hard, and to get stronger which she earned it through her hard work. Jin Mi? Well, this was all given to her, she didn't even need to work for it. I hated how her character (Jin Mi) was written personally. Another thing I hate how they showed me, while Jin Mi was hurt, Run Yu used his cultivation powers to heal her (putting his own life at risk), yet, she goes and give this all to Xu Feng (omg, I honestly have so much I hate about Jin Mi), but seriously AOL is really problematic to me, in terms of how Xu Feng and Jin Mi is written, while Jin Mi has matured in the end, but I am not a fan of a character written that way (in the overall).
This is waaaaaay better than Ashes of Love imo. So I can't relate to your preference here! For me, ML and FL is…
Well, thanks for clearing that up about you not being a Xu Feng fan, honestly, to me, he's the worst ML written.
I never liked how fans compare ALP to AOL lol and say they are similar, because I have to highly disagree with them.
We can agree to disagree in terms of Run Yu's character, for me, considering what has happened, I find his actions justifiable, because of what Xu Feng and his mother did. If he wants respect, he needs to earn it first. Considering he didn't even respect Run Yu's feelings or happiness in any of this, then why should Run Yu respect him? I find it fair. But this is how I see it, also because I am not a fan of Xu Feng on my end.
To me, I actually love Shang Gu > Jin Mi, seeing how Shang Gu works hard to cultivate and get stronger, but Jin Mi..... She gets this all handed to her on the silver platter. So that is one reason why I don't like Jin Mi on my end, although I understand she have fans lol, so those fans can like her, not my problem. I don't though. I do love the 2nd FL in AOL though.
This is waaaaaay better than Ashes of Love imo. So I can't relate to your preference here! For me, ML and FL is…
Errr, different opinions here, even if you don't like Run Yu, I don't see him as a Yandere.
His character is toxic af? Seriously? You want to go to that direction??? Don't blame me for this reply, I wanted to stay out of writing AOL by keeping it simple, every time, but your reply prompt me to make this reply. If you hate Run Yu, then that's your problem (feelings/opinions). Not mines, just want to say that Xu Feng is not a saint or the best either, he is problematic in his own way too, but since he is the ML, he gets the free pass in the end. Ofcourse fans don't see it if they can still love him at the end of all this. If people can love someone like Xu Feng, without being put into a certain 'label', then we can love Run Yu too without put into a label. So you should respect our different preferences without labelling a fan in a category, yes with that said, I would appreciate if you could stop with the hypocrisy here.
We love Run Yu because his character is sympathetic and deserves the love. He was so mistreated in AOL that pisses me off in terms of writing and how the writers mistreat him like that.
For me personally, I love the 2ML (Run Yu) on my end!! :P I am not a yandere lover, since I don't even think he's a Yandere here. Run Yu have suffered so much injustices/mistreatment in that series. If you want to see Run Yu is toxic, then that's your problem, not mines, for me I don't, because he's sacrificed so much for the FL, to that extent, and was willing to wait for her to love him back. The reason why I don't even want to get into a discussion with the AOL fandom, is because it's full of hypocrisy/double-standard. They only see Run Yu is the bad villain, and Xu Feng is the "Good Guy". When in actual truth, it was the ML who actually stole everything from him(his happiness/love). Note, Xu Feng and Jin Mi would have had my respect if they waited until the engagement was called off first before having s*x, but, nope, they are so horny for each other, they have to do it, while (1) Jin Mi is still engaged to Run Yu and (2) Run Yu is still mourning for his own mother's death, oh, which by the way was killed by Xu Feng's mother!!! So naturally, can anyone not relate to how hurt Run Yu was? They literally did NOT consider his feelings in this while doing it behind his back. If they didn't even consider Run Yu's feelings, I find it fair with how he wouldn't need to in the end. When Run Yu didn't consider their feelings, he get scolded, but when Xu Feng and Jin Mi didn't, they never got scolded, nor did people find it problematic despite it's wrong and scandalous to do so... Where's Xu Feng's love/respect for his brother here?? I find it cringeworthy how fans can love that scene, and find it romantic tbh. The ML (Xu Feng) just annoys the hell out of me, so much with his hypocrisy, and how spoil he was, yet, manipulative when it comes to him using his uncle to tie the red string around their ankle, those fans keeps criticising Run Yu's behaviour when their favourite character is problematic too. Oh, and supposedly, that Xu Feng turning Jin Mi into objects and abuse her with, is "romantic" to those fans eyes too LOL. Honestly, I can go on listing this, but it's not the topic here, so I will stop here.
You can love Xu Feng (ML) for all I care, I don't even want to elaborate in here why I dislike/hate AOL, but you were the one who replied to me about that in your comment, so if this is how you see Run Yu, then we can agree to disagree. Personally, I don't and will never love Xu Feng and Jin Mi, because they are so horribly written that made me cringe, this is why for me personally, I love ALP better, in terms of story and main leads.
The only loveable thing about AOL to me is the 2ML/2FL love story and Run Yu's character. But honestly, overall, I don't understand the love/praise on that show. But alas, I don't expect AOL fans to agree with me here.
My friend just gave me a rating out of 10, between 'ALP' and 'The Legends', since I got him into these two dramas hahaha
ALP = 9/10 The Legends = 7/10
But in terms of pairing, he said he loves both Bai Jue x Shang Gu and Li Chen Lan x Zhao Yao equally.
In terms of characters (ML/FL) and Story as a whole, he told me he loves ALP better. Currently he's re-watching ALP again hahahaha. Well, I am too (the 9th time now)!! Let's see if I can break the record here! 🤣
Honestly, I am having trouble withdrawing from this drama lol so I've been on a loop to watch again and again again lol
I wouldn't want another actress to replace her for Shang Gu if there's a season 2, and the same goes to Xu Kai, if there's a season 2, I hope both Xu Kai and Zhou Dong Yu can return to play Bai Jue and Shang Gu again.
And yeah, hahaha no matter how many times I've rewatched it there will always be those scenes that makes me cry XD.
Oh so I am not the only one who's rewatched this for the 9th time, good to know 🤣
I love Run Yu as a character, but at the same time, I disagree with you about how he is not mistreated. Any fans of Run Yu would know that because of what happened in AOL, we are glad that there's 'And the Winner is Love' exists, because at least we can take that as an AU where Yunxi character can be treated better than the shit he was given in AOL. I love Run Yu, but at the same time, I hate how the writers make him suffered so much, not even in the end, he was happy.
I only replied because you replied to me about the mistreatment, for me I see it differently, but I don't want to get into this topic again, since this thread belongs to ALP, not AOL.
To me, in terms of writing and characters & pairings, it will always be ALP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOL LOL
I wanted him to give up on Jin Mi because he will be happier that way, but I hated how the writers wrote that ending, because you clearly see that not even in the end, he was happy. This is why I can never like AOL, I blame the writers for everything. He just created the character (Run Yu) to mistreat him. I can never forgive the writers. I pity Run Yu, I think he deserves happiness too, but I HATE the writers for being unfair to Run Yu in the overall. They should have given his happy ending with Kuang Lu (that's the girls name I think), so he can be happy.. All I can do is just crack my own happy ending, well, who cares about AOL. In the end, I am just glad I got my 'And the Winner is Love' for an alternate happy ending for my favourite character, since I can't stand the main couple in AOL (Jin Mi is not even loveable, don't understand the appeals of her character on my end!)
Honestly, to me, the real victim that have been mistreated here in the entirety of the story is Run Yu, this is why I don't love the story to AOL. So many problematics, but in the end, just because Xu Feng and Jin Mi is the main leads, they get their happy ending.
I am honestly tired of seeing people referencing and comparing ALP to AOL, at first I just ignored it and scrolled past their comment, but this time I decided to speak up and state my honest opinions. With how the original person word their comment that way. With these comparison, I hope they stop, since not everyone is a fan to AOL here, and saying something like "ALP reminds them of AOL" is really an insult imo, since these two dramas, story, characters and romance have nothing in common at all, aside from the fact that it's both Xianxia genre. So I hope that people who is just lurking in the comment section not take it the wrong way, because ALP is NOT similar to AOL at all, ofcourse we each have our own preference in loving a drama, and that's fine, but not everyone feels and love it the same way as some others who does.
If you love both dramas, then that's good for you.
If someone go and recommend ALP to me, and said it reminds them of AOL, then I will totally stay away from it, so FYI, I am one of them who don't like these comparisons, I've seen it a few times in here, where people compare it, not me though. So your comment should direct it to those people(you are replying to the wrong person here). I simply just sorta had enough of the comparison and decide to speak up this time on my end from my views/opinions between the two dramas.
You can like AOL, not my problem here, but to me, I don't and I do feel that AOL is overrated. ALP is heaps better in all aspects for me, but ofcourse I don't expect you to agree to this, so each to our preference here
Shang Gu is so much more loveable in terms of her character, that as well, with how she treats everyone with respect, and she definitely has proven her worth to those haters. She also works hard, and to get stronger which she earned it through her hard work. Jin Mi? Well, this was all given to her, she didn't even need to work for it. I hated how her character (Jin Mi) was written personally. Another thing I hate how they showed me, while Jin Mi was hurt, Run Yu used his cultivation powers to heal her (putting his own life at risk), yet, she goes and give this all to Xu Feng (omg, I honestly have so much I hate about Jin Mi), but seriously AOL is really problematic to me, in terms of how Xu Feng and Jin Mi is written, while Jin Mi has matured in the end, but I am not a fan of a character written that way (in the overall).
I never liked how fans compare ALP to AOL lol and say they are similar, because I have to highly disagree with them.
We can agree to disagree in terms of Run Yu's character, for me, considering what has happened, I find his actions justifiable, because of what Xu Feng and his mother did. If he wants respect, he needs to earn it first. Considering he didn't even respect Run Yu's feelings or happiness in any of this, then why should Run Yu respect him? I find it fair. But this is how I see it, also because I am not a fan of Xu Feng on my end.
To me, I actually love Shang Gu > Jin Mi, seeing how Shang Gu works hard to cultivate and get stronger, but Jin Mi..... She gets this all handed to her on the silver platter. So that is one reason why I don't like Jin Mi on my end, although I understand she have fans lol, so those fans can like her, not my problem. I don't though. I do love the 2nd FL in AOL though.
His character is toxic af? Seriously? You want to go to that direction??? Don't blame me for this reply, I wanted to stay out of writing AOL by keeping it simple, every time, but your reply prompt me to make this reply. If you hate Run Yu, then that's your problem (feelings/opinions). Not mines, just want to say that Xu Feng is not a saint or the best either, he is problematic in his own way too, but since he is the ML, he gets the free pass in the end. Ofcourse fans don't see it if they can still love him at the end of all this. If people can love someone like Xu Feng, without being put into a certain 'label', then we can love Run Yu too without put into a label. So you should respect our different preferences without labelling a fan in a category, yes with that said, I would appreciate if you could stop with the hypocrisy here.
We love Run Yu because his character is sympathetic and deserves the love. He was so mistreated in AOL that pisses me off in terms of writing and how the writers mistreat him like that.
For me personally, I love the 2ML (Run Yu) on my end!! :P I am not a yandere lover, since I don't even think he's a Yandere here. Run Yu have suffered so much injustices/mistreatment in that series. If you want to see Run Yu is toxic, then that's your problem, not mines, for me I don't, because he's sacrificed so much for the FL, to that extent, and was willing to wait for her to love him back. The reason why I don't even want to get into a discussion with the AOL fandom, is because it's full of hypocrisy/double-standard. They only see Run Yu is the bad villain, and Xu Feng is the "Good Guy". When in actual truth, it was the ML who actually stole everything from him(his happiness/love). Note, Xu Feng and Jin Mi would have had my respect if they waited until the engagement was called off first before having s*x, but, nope, they are so horny for each other, they have to do it, while (1) Jin Mi is still engaged to Run Yu and (2) Run Yu is still mourning for his own mother's death, oh, which by the way was killed by Xu Feng's mother!!! So naturally, can anyone not relate to how hurt Run Yu was? They literally did NOT consider his feelings in this while doing it behind his back. If they didn't even consider Run Yu's feelings, I find it fair with how he wouldn't need to in the end. When Run Yu didn't consider their feelings, he get scolded, but when Xu Feng and Jin Mi didn't, they never got scolded, nor did people find it problematic despite it's wrong and scandalous to do so... Where's Xu Feng's love/respect for his brother here?? I find it cringeworthy how fans can love that scene, and find it romantic tbh. The ML (Xu Feng) just annoys the hell out of me, so much with his hypocrisy, and how spoil he was, yet, manipulative when it comes to him using his uncle to tie the red string around their ankle, those fans keeps criticising Run Yu's behaviour when their favourite character is problematic too. Oh, and supposedly, that Xu Feng turning Jin Mi into objects and abuse her with, is "romantic" to those fans eyes too LOL. Honestly, I can go on listing this, but it's not the topic here, so I will stop here.
You can love Xu Feng (ML) for all I care, I don't even want to elaborate in here why I dislike/hate AOL, but you were the one who replied to me about that in your comment, so if this is how you see Run Yu, then we can agree to disagree. Personally, I don't and will never love Xu Feng and Jin Mi, because they are so horribly written that made me cringe, this is why for me personally, I love ALP better, in terms of story and main leads.
The only loveable thing about AOL to me is the 2ML/2FL love story and Run Yu's character. But honestly, overall, I don't understand the love/praise on that show. But alas, I don't expect AOL fans to agree with me here.
ALP = 9/10
The Legends = 7/10
But in terms of pairing, he said he loves both Bai Jue x Shang Gu and Li Chen Lan x Zhao Yao equally.
In terms of characters (ML/FL) and Story as a whole, he told me he loves ALP better. Currently he's re-watching ALP again hahahaha. Well, I am too (the 9th time now)!! Let's see if I can break the record here! 🤣