Renata MJ

OMG!!! Thank you!! I don't want to be a drama queen, but it would have been a tragedy if they would have canceled this project!!! They have so many fans waiting and supporting them, it's crazy; also everyone loves when Thailand makes BL that is different and it's not always about students, :) when "Manner of death" came out I was happy for a little diversity in the storyline and characters, while it's not a new theme in the BL world if we look widely but it's different for Thailand :)
Ok, then I will wait for news, and I hope this will go on and be as successful as I anticipate :)

Update time, apparently the writers are back on the project :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ThaiBL/comments/oe67fo/what_exactly_is_happening_with_kinnporsche_the/

Well, some people said that some actors removed the title of this project from their filmography... Now I don't know what is the status of this series... pls if someone knows clear news or some announcements from the cast pls keep us updated!!!!
I found contradicting rumors...
https://kchatjjigae.com/2021/07/14/kinnporche-canceled-nooo/

What is the truth?

I am not sure about the date... I know this project was on, but as far as I know the filming of a lot of dramas were delayed because of the big cases of C-19 in Thailand and the strict rules imposed once again... also as I heard this project was doped from one company to another... so the people in charge of the trailer and what was presented to us before are not in the project anymore... the actors are in, but I hope the energy and all will not be lost, I mean production ,writing , and directing is very important and if the people changed the vision can easily change as well...
I am curious about what is true or not... does someone know real details and about the situation?

Usually the big projects and the ones that are for TV are from 45 to 1 h long (sometimes 1 h and 10 min), the web dramas, or the dramas about some "controversial themes" are shorter.
I also noticed that the ones made for Netflix are also longer.

Yes, I laughed so much, it was unexpected and I kept thinking maybe some people don't watch this so they will never know.

"But a man was waiting in the car" :)) I laughed so much!!! That was well made. And the next surprise was even better when it was mentioned that someone woke up :) <3
I love this drama, it's strange because I don't watch sports in real life, I did some myself but I ended up choosing art, my family it's into sports a lot but not me.
Somehow I love sports in dramas and anime :)) watched the Japanese Haikyu!! anime loved it (would love a live-action version), watched the Chinese version of Prince of Tennis- loved it! and I also watched, Hikaru no Go (2020) (which is not even a fiscal sports project), but all of them are some of my favorites.
This one as well made me smile and I loved the wholesome feeling I got from the characters and their relationships. It felt like all of them are gentle and innocent and just genuinely good people and they made a beautiful community... it reminded me of the ways things were when I was a kid :)
If people love projects with pleasant characters and also projects about motivation and growing up and finding your way, plus sports then this project is for you!!! <3

Also I like that they are consistent, I saw some dramas where the characters shifted they personality randomly, like they were different people and in reality things don't go that way. In this series the situation makes the viewers frustrated ... at least they make me :)) I feel like saying stop, talk and say the truth and how you feel!!! Instead there is only missunderstandings, runing away and silence.

But I don't think she is avoiding him because she does not want him in her life, she does it because she can-t face him, she is running away, instead of talking it out, she lives.... in situations like this there is no closure, he wants a relationship but he is bad at comunicating it, so she does not see that and she runs away because she can't deal.
Also from his point of view she dissapeared randomly, because they were ok, close then puff, he decided to go after her when he found out she has the wrong information and also because the rest (friends) were going as well. At first he did not even know she disappeared because of him.
I don't think he values privicy and that is the reason he keeps silent, I think the reason is that he can't open up, he does not want people geting close also I think his mum is famous actress or what so he does not trust people's intentions. And as I meantioned about the girl her giving him space is not out of respect for him, it's because she was angry and running away from the disapointment of not being chosen.

Yes, the characters are multi layered and Nabi does not seem to know about healthy relationships, the guy is the same.
She does not meet him on the day of the cheating, I think it was after some days, at least for her... for him she saw her long before in the galery.
I think you are right about him knowing about Nabi, but I think he only acts like this with her, he insists about her because he wants more and he does not know how to do relationships, as the lighter girl meantions that he is different with Nabi, as he mentiones he wants to change... with the others it was sex ( or flirting) and walking off, he never pushed or insisted or cared abouttheir attachment or if it existed. He was direct flirt one night sand or sex and that is it, people wanting more or pushing for more is not his problem.
Yes she could have had feelings but if he was clear from the start she should have ran away, I feel every girl has the info choses to ignore it and than the guy is blamed .... One of the most public similar situations was when Brittany Spears got married with that giy Kevin, he has I don't know how many ex wifes and girlfriends and children , clearly an ass pretending to change, I was jut sorry even before the wedding. Basicly the girl ignored everything and then she had a breakdown. Why do things that make you sad, actions speack louder and he even spoke words " I don't do relationships" and the girls are " I will change that"...
Also for a player having only 4 girls around along the years is not much... what I am tring to say is rhat he had more but only these girls insiste.
The girl at the club tried to hook up again and he said no, it gave me the sensation he slept with her ramly from time to time, not constantly and than she gave up after he said no. The other girl was texting him, but that is it, they did not sleep together now... and the girl with the lighter was not even in Korea. I these girls were hung up on him a bit, out of many si we can't say he knows the effect and that they all react like this, could be they are exactly the exception.

At first he does not know her type, also she pretends to be cool at first and as you mentioned he is up front with what he wants and she is not pressured in anything, I mean even her friends tell her to stay away but she does not want to, the reason she goes for him is because she thinks she can change him, she mentioned it with her own mouth this "she had hope" and she blamed him ... but that is only from her limited knowledge because we know she ran from him multiple times because of misunderstandings (like you mentioned her going to her aunt's house, the context is that she thinks he has a girlfriend and is not's true). She has trust issues (they both have) and she accuses and reacts first and then asks question's if she does. She accuses him multiple times because of rumors or what others told him (and turned out not to be true) but he never defended himself, why do you think that is?
He never sabotaged her, and she never truly resisted, when she did he backed off... he always asks for consent and wants to know what she wants.

As I mentioned he has a type of girl he goes for, girls that are not serious about him as a person, girls that use him... The girl whit the brother even apologized to him, because clearly there is something more; that the brother did not know... he takes the blame for everything and does not come up with excuses.

The girl with the lighter is the exception here, she is something more a friend, an ex someone he might have tried to be different with or the first but the timing was off, and she seemed to also have a strange thing about relationships, she seemed more like his confidant, and he does run to her every time he can, he never cut her off.

Some things you take out of context as I remember the last situation they were good and the vibe were that he would try to be with her, change, have a girlfriend, she was happy about the idea until the lighter girl told her she is the girlfriend and the chosen one... than she ran away.
The guy wants to fix things and told her he wants to go out but that is not enough for her, because she does not trust him, he now realizes that she turned cold towards him and he is desperate because it just might be that she is the first that actually liked him and wanted to know him, and vice versa. Also if she chooses the other guy he will 100% back off, he will try all he can and if she does not trust him he will not see her anymore.

I just like how this project was filmed because from episode 1 if you take every frame listen to the conversation and give extra attention to their body language and micro-expressions I feel you learn a lot about them. I feel that the girl has problems with confidence as well and self-respect, while the main guy keeps everything bottled up, giving up explanations because of the judgment of people and how set and rigid they are with their point of view of him.

Each episode can be dissected so much :)

I found that a lot of viewers have the same opinion on the show and relationship as you do :) For me watching the show from the perspective of the main girl, I would think the same thing... but watching the show from a person of my age and someone that studies script writing, animation, character design and development,story boards and story writing... I can't help but get stuck in the little things that send me hidden messages or on the micro expressions or on the moments of silence and pause... Also I can't help but fill in parts that are missing that seem to be transmitted to us but never clearly shown or explained (at least for now).

So first the main girl goes though the same thing that many girls go through when they break up (cheated on), are hurt and are lonely. It's clearly shown that she never had the experience of a healthy relationship.
So I feel that she is attracted to our main guy but does not know how to communicate and because she was hurt before (cheated on by the professor) she is fast to jump to conclusions (a lot of times because of rumors), basically she lacks trust in herself and men.

As for the main guy he also has issues with connection, so he does not want to commit or is afraid to, and he clearly never opens up about personal stuff.
But I see no red flags about him, he is a player and he is an open player. So from here on, no matter who he approaches, is at fault for accepting him or wanting to change him.
He does not lie, he tells everyone he does not want commitment or relationships (it's as easy as that and crystal clear), he does not open up or let people in (or close to his personal matters) and since he is open he flirts with people around him (flirting as it is is not a bad thing, it's more like exploring and communicating intentions).
Here is when things are shown to us but are silent... people talk about him and he never corrects them or fights for himself or his image, it is shown to us that he knows that people judge, talk behind his back and already have their mind set about him without actually putting in the effort to know him/ or talking to him directly, he also thinks he can not change their mind. (this happened already multiple times with people around him and even a few times with the main girl). He always remains silent and never explains his situation.
Another interesting thing is, the people he choose to be with, they are people that are with him for his looks (mostly fun and not truly interested in his persona), and people that are troubled and also use him back as a way to let loose. There was no one genuine shown until now, except for the main girl. He recognized for the first time that the girl actually is interested in him for more than the looks
and he started to change small things for her, even though he did say that he is a no relationship/ commitment person. A lot of times the main girl would jump to conclusions or her own or based of random rumors, even if the guy was hurt he still expects the girl to want to find the truth and get to trust him, he never gives excuses, and he answers her sincerely if she asks but she rarely does.

So for me I think this series has a lot of hidden parts :) And that this show actually is showing people learning what it means to get it right, by learning lessons and growing... They are both learning about what a relationship is.

But the other guy's girl friend was not in danger, also putting his life on the line is his decision again, the friend does not have the right to force him to stay.
As for the personality of the main guy, if it would have been the other way around he would have went there for his friend as well, not only for the girl. His friend also fought the assassin endangering himself for others :) the same thing.

Yes and no, a partner is supposed to be on the same road as you and you are supposed to be as one, while a friend is a bit different.
Even if someone is your friend, they should still respect your decizions, so I don't think the main guy is selfish, he was alredy on the quest before meating his brother/friend, so obviously he would not stop searching and fighting even if his friend is concerned, because it's his decizion to make and the friend should just respect it ( in such situations).

Yes, I like it too. Some parts does have strange editing.
The first episode gave me a strange feeling as well :)) can't put my finger on it, why, but after that I watched this drama and finished it in a few days :)
It's good, and a second season is welcomed :D

Well 100% he regretted how they parted ways so he turned around, most likely he asked around town for his whereabouts :0 If you wold watch again you would notice that the production team made a point to show us that they fought in public, so there were witnesses and people remembered them and their serious fallout. Then when his friend met the assassin it was again emphasized that people were looking at them, listening to their conversation and then even witnessing when they decided to fight each other to death. The detective, because he is smart, only needed to track him down, knowing which direction his friend left the "restaurant" with the assassin, fallowed into the woods in the same direction, obviously a bit of luck was there, because he found his friend in time :))

finally!!! I hope people will pick him up and give him main roles!!! I mean I have been waiting for him to finish his military and come back to acting, I know he has been doing modeling as well :) but he had no other projects, he was the main role in one of my favorite movies and he is such a good actor!!! He is versatile and has a big range when it comes to looks and acting <3

I hope too, but they already want to do a third season after hurting so many people, they wronged the cast from 2 Moons 2 as well...

God was in his first BL when he did 2Moons and he had signed with MV , just like the others, for 3 seasons. After they finished the first season they were so successful and they started promoting season 2, they were all up for it.
At this time an incident happened where a person posted on the internet something (X rated) with God, without his approval/permission/ knowledge (that person was just horrible, to do this). So while he had this horrible experience (he was just a victim) and a small "scandal" was happening, MV just wanted to cut off any involvement with him and so they dumped all the actors and blamed everything on him (obviously they even invented lies about him, and fake excuses and just dragged his name around).
In the end, God said he will never work in the BL industry again (the typical BL companies), so many people called him homophobic without knowing the situation and they invented that he did not get along with the guys (obviously not true since he and Bass are friends and they do meet each other outside of the work-industry, Bass even gets along well with God's mother).

The reason I don't think is toxic, is because he is not in a relationship, he said he does not do "comment", so people know, he does not lie or manipulate.
So the people that still pursue him and try to change him, do it on their own accord, it's their decizion, while alredy knowing he does not want relationships, only flirting and sex.

I don't think it's toxic...

He is a player and does not believe in committed relationships, he said that every time, he flirt, and sleeps around with girls but he never hides it, he always tells girls he does not want anything stabile, permanent or serious.
On the other hand he is intrigues about the main girl, because she does not dive in her desires like other girls, she plays with him as well (even if she does not want to or realizes that she does) put she pushes and pull as well, and also she does not pretend she does not like him, she is sincere that she wants something more. I think he guy is curious about her and he can't figure out what she is thinking.
She was hurt so she tends to want to build up walls but then ends up accepting his advances but he does feel her hesitating, so he is curious about her process, I think.
Basically his life style is a choice and he will not change himself to satisfy another person, if he will chose to change it will be for his one volition and not for the girl. That is what I think, it may be that he is a bit more involved with her than other girls but his interest does not come because of love (at least not in the beginning).