Renata MJ

I don't get it.... In every plot there is a hero and antagonist. In this case we know clearly who the bad guy is, but how can he keep working? From the start he is presented as someone doing illegal stuff... he should lose his license... But he kept bouncing up.

I kind of think the way you think (once a cheater always a cheater), in reality, I only saw one couple that went through what these 2 went through and they managed to reunite both being faithful from then on (but the cheater had to go through some rough times to get her back).
It's something I learned if a couple breaks up, and then the one that left wants back, the only way to forgive him is if the relationship starts from 0, he would have to work his ass off regaining the trust he lost, he would have to show interest every day and he would have to make you believe in love and in him again... If this does not happen there would be no second chance. Actions are very important, sorry would not be enough, sorry would have to be followed by change, his change to be more exact, he would not truly manage to change his image in your eyes then there is no chance.
The couple that I know that managed to start again, the guy worked for forgiveness for 8 months, only to have his "sorry" accepted and for her to accept to date him, not to be her boyfriend, but date him... he never gave up and in the end, they got married and have kids and are happy now.
So it's rare to see cases like these, but some people just need serious lessons in life to learn something about what is important and what truly matters.

I also only asumed it helped with the cost, but I never read on the subject but it seemed ligical I gues :) I just finished the last episode.
I liked this series because it was not the stupid- dramatic type, and I never hated any characters, a lot of the decizions made were because of the complicated circumstances and and all characters had highs and lows, they all displayed their humanity by struggling between their darker thoughts and good. I also liked that it was not cliche and hatred and revenge did not win. The main character was never selfish, she managed to rise to the ocasion, overcome her condition, become a better person and forgive the people that hurt her for the good of all. There are only a few characters in drama world that never truely loose themselve and don't see violence as the only answer.

I loved this project!!! I even found it interesting, how the used animation... it was ingenious to even use them instead of other sets if the budget was not enough...
I would have graded it with 10 but because of the fire scene and the kiss scene ... I give it 9.5. The actirs are good, the strory is nice, it's worth watching.

Not only kings :)) there was a time that man could have multiple wives, because women were just not equal and because man can't keep it in their pans :)) I mean why would a guy need 13 wives? If each makes 1 child can he afford to take care of the family...

Yes!! The same with What the Duck :)) I was shocked that they did a second season, where the characters became even worst (I never thought it's possible but they made it). I think the director wanted to create a strange dynamic and feed off of the Actors themselves because I heard that in that project the cast did not get along at all behind the scenes... The characters were not likable in the end.

They made Lovely Writer recently, that series pokes at the industry and even touches the idea the "it's ok to be gay for pay"/ BL actor in the industry but it's not ok to be gay in real life and have relationships... and how badly they are treated in the industry if they are actually gay. I liked this project because it does not paint the industry as something perfect, it actually criticizes a bit.

And there is Call It What You Want that focuses on darker stories and behind the scenes...

Also, it is a big chance; things will become better because I heard Thailand is in the middle of fighting to legalize gay marriages and it could be that people will be more open and learn more, and tolerance will grow and the movie industry will become more diverse so will the subjects and stories on the screen, hopefully.

Pls for the first part of the comment pls read my second comment again, I wrote "Lol... they can be horny that does not mean they are ready to go all the way..." I was referring exactly to that, that they could do other stuff but not penetration... so I thought people were saying they had sex (went all the way)... because in the series if it's something else they don't hint at it, they don't show other things except the final stage... (Exception TharnType that had more success where they hinted about BJ's)
Also, that goes not only for 2 guys but any other couple, yes they can do other stuff as all couples do :)
As for the other part, yes I know, but the only reason they did it like that was that they were young inexperienced, and honey... which was kind of the scenario painted in the comments :)
And since you started recently to watch I can tell you you are mostly right in what you say, in the past it was even worst, the majority BLs were quite negative, either sad/tragic ending, violet or body, involved a lot of drinking that resulted in some type of abuse or rape and so on... there were also stereotypes as you mentioned mostly because it's targeted at straight girls and they try to make the series look like a fantasy using "straight language
" such as bottom being the wife and other stereotypes, that obviously only the straight people use... But recently there are more gay actors coming out being confident, some fans that just like them and support them did start to talk about this topic and there are already some couples that are vers, and they do want to make more diverse projects.
Generally, these series are based on erotic novels or graphic novels and the roles are quite stereotypical.
The industry is still quite closed-minded but things started to change, very slowley that is true.
Also, I agree with you, everything you say I know it's like that in reality, but in the series, they still don't depict the relationships realistically... also I just got the sensation that for example.
Thailand is a bit more sexually free and a lot of series involve underage people having sex, a lot of sex...

I meat people that are not like that, even if they wanted to they were holding back... and one of them has to be the bottom and they are virgins in that sense , I don't think it's that easy to just do, one has to be prepared... can't count how many people in real life I know that were as you said and now they are exclusive tops... because they were traumatized (out of their own mouth... So I meant people as you said, but I also met people that took it slowly... and that is something because in my country the age of consent in 14 and people, including under age have sex all the time no problem... but still I know people that waited.

Lol... they can be horny that does not mean they are ready to go all the way...

No, I mean I know you did not say that , I meant that the writer wrote the plot line that way "change an excuse for cheating" :)
I actually think that change it's ok, and stopping "to love someone" can happen but the way you end it is important as well. Being upfront and ending it nicely is respectful and it speaks a lot about other's character.
Teh remained just as selfish as he was in the first season :)

Yes, I think the same way, it's normal to change but when one changes that does not mean all of a sudden they are allowed to be selfish and disrespect their partner.
My impression was that Teh was kind of an ass hole all the series, including the first season. He had his way all the time, hurting Oh. First, he kept "provoking him" by showing that he is interested in him but not being able to commit, still kind of flirting around and with Oh, then finally they got together but Oh was someone convenient to him and he was happy having the same dream as Oh, when Oh changed his profession Teh immediately went off on him (he was never supportive) and he never truly took him seriously, Teh only acted happy when Oh was included in his dream, he was never happy for Oh's dream... In all this time he was not supportive. And when he started liking the other guy, out of respect for Oh and the time together and because he knows Oh is a good person and because he saw Oh trying alone to move this relationship furder he should have told him he is attracted to the other guy, instead because of his selfishness he kept it a secret, wanted himself to be satisfied and kept a person that truly cherisher him around to use (?) or God knows why... he can say he loves Oh but he does not show le loves Oh, actions speak way louder. I think he wanted Oh not to feel lonely (use him) and the only reason he stopped seeing the other guy was that he was rejected, so even his explanation was insincere when he tried to make up with Oh... " I stopped seeing him" was not exactly because he thought about Oh or he was sorry, it was because he did not have another option and because he was hurt for being rejected.

No, I mean yes...I mean from the comment I understood they were saying that changing and growing up it's ok.
As for my statement that the "change plot" is an excuse for cheating was what I got from the show, I said that no one said that in the comments. :)
I meant that the writers wanted to portray "change" in different aspects but when it came to changing and growing apart they went with the stupid plot that "because they change they end up cheating".
Yes, cheating happens in real life but that does not mean it's a good thing, it's actually the easy way out for people that stop respecting and caring for their partner, and obviously, it tells a lot about someone's character.
Being able to be mature and to put an and to a relationship, head-on takes guts to talk things out.

People are ok with the change, they don't like the cheating...
wtf, yes people change and everybody knows that breaking up is all normal, but in this series, this is tainted by cheating, changing does not mean you have the right to hurt others by cheating... I hate the idea changing is an excuse for cheating, if he does not like him after so many years, he should at least respect him and just break up then go for the other guy.

Yes :) in the main story Wei Wuxian mentioned he wants Wen Ning to be independent and not act like a puppy. In this story he is the adult and he has to take care of his nephew, so they wanted to show that he is more mature, more independent and responsible... He is more on the same level as a living human, not a corpse...

This movie is like a "short" because the characters in this movie are actually secondary characters and this project is like a side story of a "case" they are working on.
This is a Xianxia project and it's from the fantasy/ supernatural genre, whit the action usually taking place in the Pugilistic world somewhere in the past (there are no modern ones).

For you to know if you like it or not you have to understand that this genre usually has an entire universe created (you would find any xianxia project, has an established world and they could have places in commune, characters in commune, rules in commune and so on, even if they are created by different people).
Generally these projects are full of fantasy and supernatural so as a rule there are generally more realms and there are 3 main realms:
1. The human realm with simple people and people that "cultivate" to ascend and become imortala if they want. The people that cultivate generally are good at fighting (martial arts), interact with supernatural- magical creatures and beings from other realms, they generally live in sects and their believes are based on Taoism and have spiritual abilities.
2. The Heavenly realm where there are gods and creatures (mythology comes in handy here).
3. The demon realm where demons live and come from.
If you generally don't like stories that are like faerie-tales, full of mythology and based on folklore and full of Chinese culture or that take place in the Pugilistic world and not in present times, you will not like this genre, but there are some good Chinese projects that you could like that are not supernatural :)
As for The Untamed if you would like the genre and you would have patients with fantasy projects (to view it as an alternative universe with their own rules) I think you would like it, the story is very complex, there are twists and turns, the characters are good :) I read the book, watched the anime (another season will come out soon), read the manhua and watched both version of the drama :)) I can't get bored of it :)) I love the costumes and the production on this project and I also think the main story is way more entertaining (it was also done mainly for the fans since 98% is acurate to the original source, and they put tons of hidden messages in the story).
Depending on your favorite genre you can find some simple stories that are not that "exaggerated". :)

To tell you the truth I thought the same thing from their first kiss, I thought it was strange and I even commented somewhere they were "dead fish kissing", but I was thinking it's a show for 14+ so they tend to instruct the actors to not look passionate because it's also children oriented show...
I was surprised that after episode 8 they get more natural and the kisses are quite cute, and the chemistry blooms :)

I finished this project :) A lot of people complained that the writing is bad (or the storyline) and that it's a low-budget project...
Well, this kind of reminded me of those projects that are a bit more childish and theatrical (exaggerated)... I felt this could be good but they missed something... Like "Eternal Love - the series is good and it's intense, the movie, on the other hand, I thought it was made for children, also Yin Yang Master loved the movie new it was closer to the original source, the other version of the movie was made based on the game and I thought again that it feels like I would watch a puppet show (don't get me wrong the actors did well) the way it was shot and made it look like a version made for children and that is what I thought about this drama because of the first episodes (a lot of people gave up on it after episode 4), I think it got a bit better after episode 8 and I liked both couples, but the "good guys" (from heaven, especially God, were annoying and seemed a bit clueless and dumb :)) )...
If people like only high-end projects that look like masterpieces I think they would not like this; if they only start in Xianxia this is a short project of 36 ep compared to the other long ones, they could try and watch it to learn about the genre and since they would have nothing else to compare it, they could enjoy it :)

could be it's the same universe? :)

Song Kang, Song Kang!! He is good! It was not shocking that he got people's interest from Love Alarm. and I was soo happy when I saw that he will do Sweet Home <3, he is versatile (sexy model guy, tortured horror guy, and now passionate and graceful ballet dancer and so on...)
Also in this series, we got to see his body :) if someone makes me want to draw him then 100% he is esthetically pleasing and he has such a beautifully build body, the way the shadows fell on his body when he danced on the stage, the way he moved so gracefully, and the beautiful lines he created were beautiful <3!!!
I lived the story, the characters, and the dynamic, it's a good drama that is not superficial, it's not exaggerated compared to other extreme dramas, and it does make you think about life and the passing of time, and the dreams that people may have, all in all, I think this is worth it.

So I am confused why the second season changed the actor :) The first season is mind-blowing and the actor created a specific character for this role, very free, fluid movements, head-on, masculine people loved his persona. I heard in 2017 after the first season ended the actor had other projects and wanted the second season to be delayed, plus he was injured, but then the second season came out in 2020...
I was wondering if the second season was filmed in 2018 with another actor and then only aired in 2020, or if they did delay the filming and still decided not to call the actor back (I saw he had no projects in 2020).
This season is not bad, but it's not as good/memorable as the first season... The mysteries are not that interesting and the actor sometimes is a bit uptight compared to the character in the first season (the character seems changed a bit), but other than that I think it's good, the cinematography is still as good as the first season. The actor is not bad :)