Wow...this makes so much sense...I am actually surprised that Pran has been allowing Pat to enter his house room…
Yes, by sharing these posts, I am happy to help others understand this show (even if its by a teeny tiny bit). I think it will prevent people from missing out on any thing important that goes on. Thank you for appreciating!! HAPPY FRIDAY & HAPPY WATCHING BAD BUDDY DAY TO YOU!!! 😃
There's a reason they chose to show Pran refusing to go to Pat's room, but then back-pedalling as soon as he realised that would mean Pat would be entering his apartment.
Pran's room is his private oasis; we have on seen himself and his friends there. The furthest Pat has gotten is Pran's door knob. Allowing in would be cementing Pat's presence in his life, which Pran just can't seem to do just yet.
Everything about Pat is unstable and unpredictable: their families' feud, their friends' fighting, their conflicting personalities and the fact that Pat's presence seems to always lead to bad things for Pran (which Pran has pointed out twice like a mantra - a reminder to not get close)
That's it guys. Will post again later!! Happy Friday. Happy watching Bad Buddy Day!!
The hidden details in the conversation between Pat and his father in Episode 2 as posted by an user on Tumblr. Posting for better understanding of the show. Give it a read if you want.
I want to expound on why the conversation with Pat's dad is so awful even though it may seem innocuous.
The fact that he drops by without warning is the start of it. Then his first go-to is to imply that Pat was masturbating (weak) and he should go play some sports instead (strong).
He criticises his taste, lets him know that he's being watched and reported on (the hint of panic when Pat asks if the professor his friend...because the professor knows he's getting along with Pran)....indicative of manipulation and control
Gives him the subtle "DON'T EMBARRASS ME, YOU REFLECT ON ME, YOU HAVE TO BE LIKE ME".
Then starts in with the suspicion (you're hiding something and I'm gonna sniff it out) and immediately pivots to talking about Pran and slagging him off with the subtle reminder that
"THEY ARE NOT OUR PEOPLE"
Don't think he doesn't notice Pat's defence of Pran, even though he doesn't comment on it. (Pat's dad isnt surprised by his actions of defending Pran at all. It could mean that Pat had been defending Pran for a long time, and his father has gotten used to it by now) Then ends by reinforcing his expectations of MASCULINITY on him (I'm sure you're getting a bunch of girls up in here, Am I RIGHT?).
What sells it for me is Pat's reactions...he's already a bit panicked because Pran's there and could be discovered, but there's something about the way he responds to his dad's 'jokes... it's respectfully halfhearted, or he tries to change the topic, or he cracks a joke back that isn't really a joke.
Basically, Pat knows his dad has a lot of expectations of him, of him being and behaving a certain way and in his heart he knows that he's not the person his dad is expecting him to be, as hard as he tries to look like it on the outside, and what's more he's pretty sure his dad knows it, so he tries harder to act the part.
I love it to the core of my heart. It's the first time I felt myself invested in a Thai bl. It's not like they…
Yes I know, people are pretty fast when it comes to judging. What physical appearance has to do with love I have no idea. But one thing I hope is for people to understand this show.
The thing is, there is a hidden pain ,sadness and love driving their actions. I am glad that you love the show as much as I do. I sincerely hope that BB will live up to our expectations
I would go just a slight step beyond- yes he cares for Pat, but I think he was in love with him back in high school…
Yes that rooftop scene in He's coming to me was really a pretty heart wrenching one. Since the director is same ,we might need to prepare ourselves with tissues. Yes OHM is a very talented actor, my heart also breaks whenever he cries.
But given how Pran has already been suffering alone, is too much angst and suffering really necessary in order for the show to be successful?
Many claim that the plot is cliche and boring and that angst is necessary to spice up the show. Why some people dont understand Pran's sadness and pain in these 2 episodes is beyond my comprehension.
That kid had been suffering alone, he thought that it was his fault that he had taken a liking to the son of his rival family. Its evident in the way he speaks. Because he considers solely himself to be at fault, he offers to move out from the dorm without holding anyone else responsible. He didn't blame Pat's father nor his friends. Thats pretty tragic according to me.
Another scene was that when Pran said to Pat..
"Keep owing me"
Why do you think he said that? He felt that his love will never be reciprocated. Since he has been suffering alone in silence for a long time, he thought that Pat owing himself is the least Pat could do for him at the moment.
This series is only at 2 episodes, there's still a high chance of the ratings increasing once we get the rest…
Yes umasou007, since you have spoken, then I guess we do have some hope. Lets see. I know your calculation back there makes a lot of sense. Its true many are rating it at 7-8. A few 7-7.5 is enough to cause this downslide. I'm simply not willing to worry about ratings anymore. Ratings are making me feel more anxious nowadays. 😟
I would go just a slight step beyond- yes he cares for Pat, but I think he was in love with him back in high school…
Yes I too am worried about the same. Some people are craving for angst, but I dont know. I am not ready for all this. I keep feeling sorry for Pran all this time. If this really happens, I will be devastated too . His mother does seem like a stern and controlling person
A user named nattawins posted the reason behind Pran's actions in episode 2 on Tumblr. Posting it here for better understanding of the show. Do give it a read if you want. Warning for those who haven't watched till episode 2!! SPOILERS AHEAD !!!!!!
The fact that Pran is so immediately affected by whatever Pat's dad says about him makes so much sense when you think about the flashback: They were friends. Secretly they did not have an antagonized view of the other despite their families being at odds.
So when his parents dragged him away from Pat at the slightest suspicion of them being on amicable terms, Pran had nobody to turn to .....
Neither Pat nor his parents.
In time, because he could not understand these complex and conflicted emotions himself, he started to blame himself for letting his heart wander. It would've been easier if he could just hate Pat like his parents wanted him to, but by breaching the boundaries his parents had drawn for him, he had only ended up hurting himself. So he turned all those complicated emotions that he felt for Pat into a shield of maturity and indifference to protect himself and stop himself from feeling anything.
But seeing Pat after three years causes an upsurge of those painful emotions that he had buried with so much care. He tries to be as apathetic as possible but in his heart he knows this, as he did back in high school:
He does not hate Pat. He could not.
So hearing Pat's father bring up the past, twists all those long suppressed emotions out of him and almost makes him choke with frustration and a sadness he never understood (that slight waver in nanon's voice when he says......
"That's fine, just forget it"
while staring directly ahead at Pat, god such impactful acting) -- a sadness, from my personal perception of Pran's character, that stems from Pran's belief that he has always cared more about Pat than Pat has cared about him.
Damn, the rating is really dropping like a bag of heavy stones. Seems people arent enjoying this as much? Hopefully,…
I love it to the core of my heart. It's the first time I felt myself invested in a Thai bl. It's not like they just meet and start hitting on each other and fall in love.
The drama has a pretty decent backstory. Although they have known each other for a long time, they are unable to interact freely under parental pressure. Unknowingly ,they have been harbouring love for each other for years. What is cliche about this plot I dont understand till now.
I know its not easy to please everyone. If we all keep on worrying about the ratings we won't be able to enjoy the drama. Its okay even if a few viewers genuinely love and cherish Bad Buddy.
Its better if we leave the fate of Bad Buddy to the viewers.
The drama is Bad Buddy. Pran and pat were busy fighting throughout their lives. And here we are fighting it out in the comment section. Just felt funny. 😆
It's good that I get to interact with so many bl watchers around the world and know their views. :-)
My friends hardly watch bl, so I feel good chatting with the viewers here.
Right. Many people will miss out on this show due to the poor ratings.If this keeps up , the ratings might as…
But don't you think that perceiving someone as gay just because they are girly is wrong ? This is the problem with many Thai bl dramas.
It is basically stereotyping that any man having excess of feminine features will be counted as gay. Someone might be weak or small or vulnerable, but that doesn't mean he will automatically like men by default. I think physical appearance should not be counted as sexual preference. It is one's own choice.
I know, that is the way it is depicted in most Thai bls and I think thats pretty wrong.
Right. Many people will miss out on this show due to the poor ratings.If this keeps up , the ratings might as…
Yes, somewhere in youtube I read that some fans think that the leading men are short and that the story has nothing new to offer. So I am not exactly sure about what they were hoping to see .
Someone's really just hate rating this show at this point. It may have flaws but it's definitely above an 8 by…
Right. Many people will miss out on this show due to the poor ratings.If this keeps up , the ratings might as well reach 7.9 at this rate. Breaks my heart.
I read somewhere , some fans had something against the leads being short and the plot being cliche. But even if it's cliche, it's enjoyable and entertaining , right?
I've seen many thai bls. But I have never felt invested in any show (apart from ATOTS) like this one. Makes me sad.
It happens with most shows. Expect the rating to drop even lower as more people watch and rate it.
Agreed, lets wait and see. Hopefully the audience will start to love it once the rivalry between the two gangs is over. Until then we can draw others attention by commenting here. 😃
There's a reason they chose to show Pran refusing to go to Pat's room, but then back-pedalling as soon as he realised that would mean Pat would be entering his apartment.
Pran's room is his private oasis; we have on seen himself and his friends there. The furthest Pat has gotten is Pran's door knob. Allowing in would be cementing Pat's presence in his life, which Pran just can't seem to do just yet.
Everything about Pat is unstable and unpredictable: their families' feud, their friends' fighting, their conflicting personalities and the fact that Pat's presence seems to always lead to bad things for Pran (which Pran has pointed out twice like a mantra - a reminder to not get close)
That's it guys. Will post again later!! Happy Friday.
Happy watching Bad Buddy Day!!
I want to expound on why the conversation with Pat's dad is so awful even though it may seem innocuous.
The fact that he drops by without warning is the start of it. Then his first go-to is to imply that Pat was masturbating (weak) and he should go play some sports instead (strong).
He criticises his taste, lets him know that he's being watched and reported on (the hint of panic when Pat asks if the professor his friend...because the professor knows he's getting along with Pran)....indicative of manipulation and control
Gives him the subtle
"DON'T EMBARRASS ME, YOU REFLECT ON ME, YOU HAVE TO BE LIKE ME".
Then starts in with the suspicion (you're hiding something and I'm gonna sniff it out) and immediately pivots to talking about Pran and slagging him off with the subtle reminder that
"THEY ARE NOT OUR PEOPLE"
Don't think he doesn't notice Pat's defence of Pran, even though he doesn't comment on it.
(Pat's dad isnt surprised by his actions of defending Pran at all. It could mean that Pat had been defending Pran for a long time, and his father has gotten used to it by now)
Then ends by reinforcing his expectations of MASCULINITY on him (I'm sure you're getting a bunch of girls up in here, Am I RIGHT?).
What sells it for me is Pat's reactions...he's already a bit panicked because Pran's there and could be discovered, but there's something about the way he responds to his dad's 'jokes... it's respectfully halfhearted, or he tries to change the topic, or he cracks a joke back that isn't really a joke.
Basically, Pat knows his dad has a lot of expectations of him, of him being and behaving a certain way and in his heart he knows that he's not the person his dad is expecting him to be, as hard as he tries to look like it on the outside, and what's more he's pretty sure his dad knows it, so he tries harder to act the part.
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The thing is, there is a hidden pain ,sadness and love driving their actions. I am glad that you love the show as much as I do. I sincerely hope that BB will live up to our expectations
I'm seriously sad about some people not understanding these subtle actions. It is my pleasure. Thank you for appreciating. Yes will keep posting more.
But given how Pran has already been suffering alone, is too much angst and suffering really necessary in order for the show to be successful?
Many claim that the plot is cliche and boring and that angst is necessary to spice up the show.
Why some people dont understand Pran's sadness and pain in these 2 episodes is beyond my comprehension.
That kid had been suffering alone, he thought that it was his fault that he had taken a liking to the son of his rival family. Its evident in the way he speaks. Because he considers solely himself to be at fault, he offers to move out from the dorm without holding anyone else responsible.
He didn't blame Pat's father nor his friends. Thats pretty tragic according to me.
Another scene was that when Pran said to Pat..
"Keep owing me"
Why do you think he said that? He felt that his love will never be reciprocated. Since he has been suffering alone in silence for a long time, he thought that Pat owing himself is the least Pat could do for him at the moment.
The fact that Pran is so immediately affected by whatever Pat's dad says about him makes so much sense when you think about the flashback: They were friends. Secretly they did not have an antagonized view of the other despite their families being at odds.
So when his parents dragged him away from Pat at the slightest suspicion of them being on amicable terms, Pran had nobody to turn to .....
Neither Pat nor his parents.
In time, because he could not understand these complex and conflicted emotions himself, he started to blame himself for letting his heart wander. It would've been easier if he could just hate Pat like his parents wanted him to, but by breaching the boundaries his parents had drawn for him, he had only ended up hurting himself. So he turned all those complicated emotions that he felt for Pat into a shield of maturity and indifference to protect himself and stop himself from feeling anything.
But seeing Pat after three years causes an upsurge of those painful emotions that he had buried with so much care. He tries to be as apathetic as possible but in his heart he knows this, as he did back in high school:
He does not hate Pat. He could not.
So hearing Pat's father bring up the past, twists all those long suppressed emotions out of him and almost makes him choke with frustration and a sadness he never understood (that slight waver in nanon's voice when he says......
"That's fine, just forget it"
while staring directly ahead at Pat, god such impactful acting) -- a sadness, from my personal perception of Pran's character, that stems from Pran's belief that he has always cared more about Pat than Pat has cared about him.
by: nattawins
The drama has a pretty decent backstory. Although they have known each other for a long time, they are unable to interact freely under parental pressure. Unknowingly ,they have been harbouring love for each other for years. What is cliche about this plot I dont understand till now.
I know its not easy to please everyone. If we all keep on worrying about the ratings we won't be able to enjoy the drama. Its okay even if a few viewers genuinely love and cherish Bad Buddy.
Its better if we leave the fate of Bad Buddy to the viewers.
Pran and pat were busy fighting throughout their lives. And here we are fighting it out in the comment section.
Just felt funny. 😆
It's good that I get to interact with so many bl watchers around the world and know their views. :-)
My friends hardly watch bl, so I feel good chatting with the viewers here.
It is basically stereotyping that any man having excess of feminine features will be counted as gay. Someone might be weak or small or vulnerable, but that doesn't mean he will automatically like men by default. I think physical appearance should not be counted as sexual preference. It is one's own choice.
I know, that is the way it is depicted in most Thai bls and I think thats pretty wrong.
I read somewhere , some fans had something against the leads being short and the plot being cliche. But even if it's cliche, it's enjoyable and entertaining , right?
I've seen many thai bls. But I have never felt invested in any show (apart from ATOTS) like this one. Makes me sad.
Love is love. Why always label people in love as top, bottom, husband , wife and what not?
Apparently most of these alpha males also tend to control their partners as you rightly pointed out, and as a result the show turns out to be toxic.
I sincerely wish that more people will come to watch Bad Buddy and realise how good the show really is.