Reason as to why Pran uses tokens or smiley faces for his portrayal of emotions (Posting for better understanding of the show)
It is evident that Pran had all along just denied all the emotions that he had ever felt for Pat. Thus, he became closed off and seemingly cold, turned entirely to logic just shut down for any type of emotion.
But upon meeting Pran again after 3 years he cannot handle the burst of all those feelings resurfacing.
One moment he is calm and collected, and the next Pat shows up and he cannot help himself, but feel good and smile and just be completely smitten.
And THAT is what bothers him. He is forcing himself to think that he cannot be anything but an enemy with Pat. It is so ingrained in his brain that he has to hate the guy that he cannot stop himself from trying to get distant.
This leads to depression, this is why he uses tokens - the smiley faces and the sticky notes - of happiness. Pran is simple yet deceiving. A simple smiley face. So simple... but reflected in everything he does. The choice to smile, the choice to be in control, the choice to keep him emotions behind lock and key and quiet. He doesn't allow his mind to create it's own happiness - he takes that of an outside source, which is basically a placebo.
Pran would live in denial for the rest of his life if it meant he was safe.
But Pat on the other hand wears his heart on his sleeve. His denial will only last until he realizes that he's in denial and what he's denying.
Good insight! Thanks for sharing!It is interesting to note that in the original novel, it is Pat's family that…
Ooh, I didn't know that. Thank you for sharing. Since the comments section is on fire, Im not posting more insights for now, but I will in the coming days. Post episode3 syndrome wont be supposedly over in 3-4 days. Lol π
Why Pran said that Pat's Family is flexible in Episode 3 (Posting here for better understanding of the show. For those who have not watched till episode 3 WARNING!! SPOILERS AHEAD)
It wasn't actually a comment on Pat's family/parents. It was a comment on his own family.
Pran doesn't get a new anything for becoming the class president. That was expected of him. Pran obviously grew up in a much stricter house with more rigid expectations.
After Pran says that, Pat doesn't say anything in defense of his family because he knows what Pran is really saying. He knows what happened in the past. Pat knows what Pran deals with. He KNOWS.
Both Pat and Pran deal with pressure from their families but it's a different kind of pressure. And they handle it so differently.
By tobeornottotc
( Felt so happy that the show is getting the appreciation and love it duly deserves. I'm smiling from ear to ear , rewatching Episode 3 just like you guys. )
Thank you for sharing! Very good insight!Both of them staying in dorm is representative of their desire to escape…
Yes, I was just afraid that people might not like reading all these insights. But the thing is, these small details make up the heart of Bad Buddy. In the course of watching the show we often forget to read in between the lines. As a result, we think "Ooh the show is pretty ordinary. Nothing new ". The director has given a lot of hidden messages which are essential to understand and enjoy the show.
Yes , like you,I too think that Pran was unsure of the kind of feelings he had for Pat at that point in time and Pran entering into his room signifies him opening himself up to Pran.
I will certainly post more insights as the show progresses. Thank you for your words of encouragement. π π
Wow...this makes so much sense...I am actually surprised that Pran has been allowing Pat to enter his house room…
Yes, by sharing these posts, I am happy to help others understand this show (even if its by a teeny tiny bit). I think it will prevent people from missing out on any thing important that goes on. Thank you for appreciating!! HAPPY FRIDAY & HAPPY WATCHING BAD BUDDY DAY TO YOU!!! π
There's a reason they chose to show Pran refusing to go to Pat's room, but then back-pedalling as soon as he realised that would mean Pat would be entering his apartment.
Pran's room is his private oasis; we have on seen himself and his friends there. The furthest Pat has gotten is Pran's door knob. Allowing in would be cementing Pat's presence in his life, which Pran just can't seem to do just yet.
Everything about Pat is unstable and unpredictable: their families' feud, their friends' fighting, their conflicting personalities and the fact that Pat's presence seems to always lead to bad things for Pran (which Pran has pointed out twice like a mantra - a reminder to not get close)
That's it guys. Will post again later!! Happy Friday. Happy watching Bad Buddy Day!!
The hidden details in the conversation between Pat and his father in Episode 2 as posted by an user on Tumblr. Posting for better understanding of the show. Give it a read if you want.
I want to expound on why the conversation with Pat's dad is so awful even though it may seem innocuous.
The fact that he drops by without warning is the start of it. Then his first go-to is to imply that Pat was masturbating (weak) and he should go play some sports instead (strong).
He criticises his taste, lets him know that he's being watched and reported on (the hint of panic when Pat asks if the professor his friend...because the professor knows he's getting along with Pran)....indicative of manipulation and control
Gives him the subtle "DON'T EMBARRASS ME, YOU REFLECT ON ME, YOU HAVE TO BE LIKE ME".
Then starts in with the suspicion (you're hiding something and I'm gonna sniff it out) and immediately pivots to talking about Pran and slagging him off with the subtle reminder that
"THEY ARE NOT OUR PEOPLE"
Don't think he doesn't notice Pat's defence of Pran, even though he doesn't comment on it. (Pat's dad isnt surprised by his actions of defending Pran at all. It could mean that Pat had been defending Pran for a long time, and his father has gotten used to it by now) Then ends by reinforcing his expectations of MASCULINITY on him (I'm sure you're getting a bunch of girls up in here, Am I RIGHT?).
What sells it for me is Pat's reactions...he's already a bit panicked because Pran's there and could be discovered, but there's something about the way he responds to his dad's 'jokes... it's respectfully halfhearted, or he tries to change the topic, or he cracks a joke back that isn't really a joke.
Basically, Pat knows his dad has a lot of expectations of him, of him being and behaving a certain way and in his heart he knows that he's not the person his dad is expecting him to be, as hard as he tries to look like it on the outside, and what's more he's pretty sure his dad knows it, so he tries harder to act the part.
I love it to the core of my heart. It's the first time I felt myself invested in a Thai bl. It's not like they…
Yes I know, people are pretty fast when it comes to judging. What physical appearance has to do with love I have no idea. But one thing I hope is for people to understand this show.
The thing is, there is a hidden pain ,sadness and love driving their actions. I am glad that you love the show as much as I do. I sincerely hope that BB will live up to our expectations
I would go just a slight step beyond- yes he cares for Pat, but I think he was in love with him back in high school…
Yes that rooftop scene in He's coming to me was really a pretty heart wrenching one. Since the director is same ,we might need to prepare ourselves with tissues. Yes OHM is a very talented actor, my heart also breaks whenever he cries.
But given how Pran has already been suffering alone, is too much angst and suffering really necessary in order for the show to be successful?
Many claim that the plot is cliche and boring and that angst is necessary to spice up the show. Why some people dont understand Pran's sadness and pain in these 2 episodes is beyond my comprehension.
That kid had been suffering alone, he thought that it was his fault that he had taken a liking to the son of his rival family. Its evident in the way he speaks. Because he considers solely himself to be at fault, he offers to move out from the dorm without holding anyone else responsible. He didn't blame Pat's father nor his friends. Thats pretty tragic according to me.
Another scene was that when Pran said to Pat..
"Keep owing me"
Why do you think he said that? He felt that his love will never be reciprocated. Since he has been suffering alone in silence for a long time, he thought that Pat owing himself is the least Pat could do for him at the moment.
(Posting for better understanding of the show)
It is evident that Pran had all along just denied all the emotions that he had ever felt for Pat. Thus, he became closed off and seemingly cold, turned entirely to logic just shut down for any type of emotion.
But upon meeting Pran again after 3 years he cannot handle the burst of all those feelings resurfacing.
One moment he is calm and collected, and the next Pat shows up and he cannot help himself, but feel good and smile and just be completely smitten.
And THAT is what bothers him. He is forcing himself to think that he cannot be anything but an enemy with Pat. It is so ingrained in his brain that he has to hate the guy that he cannot stop himself from trying to get distant.
This leads to depression, this is why he uses tokens - the smiley faces and the sticky notes - of happiness. Pran is simple yet deceiving. A simple smiley face. So simple... but reflected in everything he does. The choice to smile, the choice to be in control, the choice to keep him emotions behind lock and key and quiet. He doesn't allow his mind to create it's own happiness - he takes that of an outside source, which is basically a placebo.
Pran would live in denial for the rest of his life if it meant he was safe.
But Pat on the other hand wears his heart on his sleeve. His denial will only last until he realizes that he's in denial and what he's denying.
In the scene after they raced each other to their doors when Pat hears a knock on his doors he thought it's Pran knocking.
He was legit disappointed to see his three dumb friends. So his grin vanished
(Posting here for better understanding of the show. For those who have not watched till episode 3 WARNING!! SPOILERS AHEAD)
It wasn't actually a comment on Pat's family/parents. It was a comment on his own family.
Pran doesn't get a new anything for becoming the class president. That was expected of him. Pran obviously grew up in a much stricter house with more rigid expectations.
After Pran says that, Pat doesn't say anything in defense of his family because he knows what Pran is really saying. He knows what happened in the past. Pat knows what Pran deals with. He KNOWS.
Both Pat and Pran deal with pressure from their families but it's a different kind of pressure. And they handle it so differently.
By tobeornottotc
( Felt so happy that the show is getting the appreciation and love it duly deserves. I'm smiling from ear to ear , rewatching Episode 3 just like you guys. )
Yes , like you,I too think that Pran was unsure of the kind of feelings he had for Pat at that point in time and Pran entering into his room signifies him opening himself up to Pran.
I will certainly post more insights as the show progresses. Thank you for your words of encouragement. π π
There's a reason they chose to show Pran refusing to go to Pat's room, but then back-pedalling as soon as he realised that would mean Pat would be entering his apartment.
Pran's room is his private oasis; we have on seen himself and his friends there. The furthest Pat has gotten is Pran's door knob. Allowing in would be cementing Pat's presence in his life, which Pran just can't seem to do just yet.
Everything about Pat is unstable and unpredictable: their families' feud, their friends' fighting, their conflicting personalities and the fact that Pat's presence seems to always lead to bad things for Pran (which Pran has pointed out twice like a mantra - a reminder to not get close)
That's it guys. Will post again later!! Happy Friday.
Happy watching Bad Buddy Day!!
I want to expound on why the conversation with Pat's dad is so awful even though it may seem innocuous.
The fact that he drops by without warning is the start of it. Then his first go-to is to imply that Pat was masturbating (weak) and he should go play some sports instead (strong).
He criticises his taste, lets him know that he's being watched and reported on (the hint of panic when Pat asks if the professor his friend...because the professor knows he's getting along with Pran)....indicative of manipulation and control
Gives him the subtle
"DON'T EMBARRASS ME, YOU REFLECT ON ME, YOU HAVE TO BE LIKE ME".
Then starts in with the suspicion (you're hiding something and I'm gonna sniff it out) and immediately pivots to talking about Pran and slagging him off with the subtle reminder that
"THEY ARE NOT OUR PEOPLE"
Don't think he doesn't notice Pat's defence of Pran, even though he doesn't comment on it.
(Pat's dad isnt surprised by his actions of defending Pran at all. It could mean that Pat had been defending Pran for a long time, and his father has gotten used to it by now)
Then ends by reinforcing his expectations of MASCULINITY on him (I'm sure you're getting a bunch of girls up in here, Am I RIGHT?).
What sells it for me is Pat's reactions...he's already a bit panicked because Pran's there and could be discovered, but there's something about the way he responds to his dad's 'jokes... it's respectfully halfhearted, or he tries to change the topic, or he cracks a joke back that isn't really a joke.
Basically, Pat knows his dad has a lot of expectations of him, of him being and behaving a certain way and in his heart he knows that he's not the person his dad is expecting him to be, as hard as he tries to look like it on the outside, and what's more he's pretty sure his dad knows it, so he tries harder to act the part.
By shortpplfedup
The thing is, there is a hidden pain ,sadness and love driving their actions. I am glad that you love the show as much as I do. I sincerely hope that BB will live up to our expectations
I'm seriously sad about some people not understanding these subtle actions. It is my pleasure. Thank you for appreciating. Yes will keep posting more.
But given how Pran has already been suffering alone, is too much angst and suffering really necessary in order for the show to be successful?
Many claim that the plot is cliche and boring and that angst is necessary to spice up the show.
Why some people dont understand Pran's sadness and pain in these 2 episodes is beyond my comprehension.
That kid had been suffering alone, he thought that it was his fault that he had taken a liking to the son of his rival family. Its evident in the way he speaks. Because he considers solely himself to be at fault, he offers to move out from the dorm without holding anyone else responsible.
He didn't blame Pat's father nor his friends. Thats pretty tragic according to me.
Another scene was that when Pran said to Pat..
"Keep owing me"
Why do you think he said that? He felt that his love will never be reciprocated. Since he has been suffering alone in silence for a long time, he thought that Pat owing himself is the least Pat could do for him at the moment.