I just re-watched ep 3 and I think your commentary is interesting especially because it's a slightly different…
Yes , youre right it might be an extension to that night also. But I certainly feel like theres something more to Pat's teases than what meets the eye whatever that might be. You're spot on about your observation that Pran suffers from some sort of trauma. I had shared it somewhere down here . Thank you for reading and sharing your views as well
A very nice observation. It ties in well with the Jinx theory you had earlier too and it made it into Pran ready…
Yes surely, you can think about it for now. Its always good to know others views. Hopefully once episode 4 airs we will have a lot more things to talk about.
A very nice observation. It ties in well with the Jinx theory you had earlier too and it made it into Pran ready…
Thank you for reading my observations. I do feel good when people say they read it. I'm pretty introverted, but here I get to interact with so many people. Makes me happy
A very nice observation. It ties in well with the Jinx theory you had earlier too and it made it into Pran ready…
Yes, that might be the case also. As you rightly pointed out, Pat did once say to Pran "You keep looking at me".
But Pat in my perception is not someone who' ll pretend to be oblivious of Pran's feelings ( teasing equates to oblivion for me , since Pat as a person , is pretty sincere in everything he does for Pran. Others might not agree with me on this one, I know) had he known it for sure. He's always high on his emotions, and does what he feels like. He would obviously act upon it if he knew for sure that Pran loves him.
Moreover Pat is a person whose actions speak louder than words. He would never arrange for an elaborate proposal or do other sweet things. He just treasured his guitar for years( pran's name was written on it, so he never cared about what their parents think),kept their telephone cans.
That is the reason why i think Pat was trying to tell Pran that he had missed him for a long time with those teases. But he does everything in a way like he doesn't really mean it. It becomes hard to see through him as well
Thanks for sharing! Bad buddy is really filled with hidden symbolism and cryptic messages. Keep on sharing.
Surely ,You're welcome. Let us keep the comments section busy till friday comes. π π I had never felt so happy in a while. Watching Bad buddy made me feel as if I was the one who had fallen in love. I can never stop gushing over bad buddy. Goes on to show how good the drama really is.
Pat goes onto tease Pran about missing him at least 2-3 times in the episode
"If you miss me, don't knock just come in" "Yes , I'm going , don't miss me" ( library scene)
Given the person Pat is , it is easy for Pran to shrug it off as a joke.But Pat seems to be obsessed with the notion of Pran missing him.Pat's teases meant that he had himself longed for Pran during those three years that he was gone. He's trying to GAUGE his POSITION and IMPORTANCE in Pran's life now through these actions since he was gone from his life for 3 years ......
"Are you this nosy with others as well? "
But since he hasn't come to terms with his own feelings, teasing is the only thing he does for now.
Another was the bus stop building scene
Pran: "Do you think they'll like it?" Pat:" Yes they will, because I do"
This scene is symbolic to Pran asking Pat whether their parents will like and acknowledge thier relationship. Pran has always been apprehensive about their relationship. All it takes is one stren look from his mother to shut down (as seen during the music festival), or one pause from his friends( like Wai stopped him during building the bus stop) to leave him reconsidering. Pat knows that he's been through a lot, and reassures him that he has nothing to worry about. Their parents will like their relationship too, since he likes it
As always, great to have these insights from you. I still think these fights could have been staged better - they…
Yes, you're right the fights could've been staged better. I agree, the action sequences don't seem pretty serious. That's why they don't appeal to the viewers. Many of the fights are illogical too. But what to do, it's still a part of the plot. Hopefully when the fighting reduces, everyone will heave a sigh of relief. Till then, we need to put up with the Keystone Cops for the sake of the plot LOL π
Gang rivalry is an essential part of the plot that's why it is there. It's okay for people not to like it,( I completely understand where you're coming from) but there's a good reason it is there.
The story is just not about Pran and Pat falling in love. The story draws inspiration from Romeo and Juliet.
As the story will unfold ,we will get to see how Pat and Pran along with their friends will bridge the differences and grow stronger by being together.
Just like the Capulets and Montagues learnt to sort out differences due to Romeo and Juliet's death, friends of both of Pat and Pran will grow because of uniting Pat and Pran
To quote P'Aof ... " The romance in this series will be used more than as a mere source of entertainment, but as a catalyst for change and learning"
It was unfair for their band mates in High School to blame Pat. He did not do anything bad. He was kind to Pran…
Yes but everyone held Pat responsible, knowing fully well that he had nothing to do with it. Pran considers him to be bad luck, because it helps him push Pat away. In the end , Pat is the one who is being affected the most. He might not show, but it does really pain him.
(Pay attention to last part of episode 3 when Pat's smile vanishes while Pran was playing. He's contemplating whether he really is the jinx in Pran's life as they claim him to be)
I think that the whole point of the scene was that anyone can be anything in a relationship as long as they are…
Yes agreed. I think the director is doing a marvelous work here. He's trying to bring about a revolution in the bl industry. Hopefully other directors also will take a note and present us with healthy relationships like this one. Love is an eternal emotion, it should not have anything to do with who's top or bottom. The story is about two boys who spent an entire lifetime pining for each other and I think thats so pure. Let us just not confine them to their actions in the bed room
I really appreciate your insights, they help me understand the characters in a way I wouldn't on my own. But that…
@violetfields99, Yes I think you're completely right. Hopefully the happy parts will make us all squeal with delight. Their chemistry is no joke. Lately I've been more interested in their lives than mine. But you know what? Shows like these come by only once in a while. It's okay to get excitedπ
Wait a damn minute.... did they hint as to who's the "top" and who's the "bottom" with the whole "wifey and husband"…
I think that the whole point of the scene was that anyone can be anything in a relationship as long as they are happy with it. That is why Pat inspite of being muscular, didn't hesitate to become Pran's wife. This was to do away with the top and bottom tropes that exist. Physical appearance doesn't correspond to someone's postion in bed, at least I guess that is the message they were trying to get through to us viewers
Probable Reason as to why Pat kept trying so hard to make Pran happy in episode 3 (Posting for better understanding of the show)
Many of us might think that it is because of the way Pat is. He is a person with good heart. He wears his heart on his sleeve. He loves to goof around and that he partly felt guilty for Pran's transfer and also the fact that his friends started the fight.
But there is a hidden pain behind his facade of happiness. Many of Pat's actions stem from this pain. All this time Pat has been considered as a jinx to Pran by :
1) his friends( scene in which Pran got transferred, Pat's friends blamed him), 2) his sister ( always blaming him ) 3) all alike
when in the reality he has never tried to harm Pran or cause trouble to him in any way. Even Pran himself considers him to be a jinx in his life.
This is why sometimes the expression on his face hardens , as seen towards the end of episode 3 when Pran was playing the guitar, and Pat's smile suddenly vanishes. (Pay attention to last part of episode 3 when Pat's smile vanishes while Pran was playing. He's contemplating whether he really is the jinx in Pran's life as they claim him to be. Episode 3 part 4/4 timestamp 9:56 -10:03)
"Why are you so hard on me? Are you this hard on your other friends?"
All Pat desparately wants, is to get rid of the jinx tag he got , despite him not being at fault. He has CARED for Pran throughout his life......which is evident seeing how he kept Pran's treasured possession close to him, knowing fully well he might have to face his parents wrath. He just wants Pran to know the same.
These are great insights and lends this drama a whole new level of meaning beyond your normal BL like 2gether.…
No problem. It's always good to know others views. You can also share your views if you like. As I always say, different views can broaden our minds and horizon
I really appreciate your insights, they help me understand the characters in a way I wouldn't on my own. But that…
Yes, their story is pretty tragic actually. It is just being presented in a light hearted manner. Pran's mom separating Pran from Pat had for sure inflicted some trauma and damage to Pran. That is why he has lost his emotions. Being with Pat makes him feel all those emotions again.
In short, Pat and Pran have been fighting their own battles silently.
I can't help but appreciate the director. This show is the best I've come across.
PS . I don't want you to be depressed.π£ Just I felt that you should know like what's going on in their heads and driving their actions. I'm just in love with the director, and hoping that his work doesn't go unappreciated. For some of the other Thai bls that I have watched ( I respect the shows) but I could barely sit through them.
These are great insights and lends this drama a whole new level of meaning beyond your normal BL like 2gether.…
I haven't read the novel yet. Yes I read these insights from other viewers fron youtube, facebook, tumblr. I understand their posts and summarize the important parts. I think all these insights are essential for us to capture the essence of this drama. Else we wont be able to understand why Pran is the way he is.
But Pat in my perception is not someone who' ll pretend to be oblivious of Pran's feelings ( teasing equates to oblivion for me , since Pat as a person , is pretty sincere in everything he does for Pran. Others might not agree with me on this one, I know) had he known it for sure. He's always high on his emotions, and does what he feels like. He would obviously act upon it if he knew for sure that Pran loves him.
Moreover Pat is a person whose actions speak louder than words. He would never arrange for an elaborate proposal or do other sweet things. He just treasured his guitar for years( pran's name was written on it, so he never cared about what their parents think),kept their telephone cans.
That is the reason why i think Pat was trying to tell Pran that he had missed him for a long time with those teases. But he does everything in a way like he doesn't really mean it. It becomes hard to see through him as well
I had never felt so happy in a while. Watching Bad buddy made me feel as if I was the one who had fallen in love. I can never stop gushing over bad buddy. Goes on to show how good the drama really is.
Pat goes onto tease Pran about missing him at least 2-3 times in the episode
"If you miss me, don't knock just come in"
"Yes , I'm going , don't miss me" ( library scene)
Given the person Pat is , it is easy for Pran to shrug it off as a joke.But Pat seems to be obsessed with the notion of Pran missing him.Pat's teases meant that he had himself longed for Pran during those three years that he was gone. He's trying to GAUGE his POSITION and IMPORTANCE in Pran's life now through these actions since he was gone from his life for 3 years ......
"Are you this nosy with others as well? "
But since he hasn't come to terms with his own feelings, teasing is the only thing he does for now.
Another was the bus stop building scene
Pran: "Do you think they'll like it?"
Pat:" Yes they will, because I do"
This scene is symbolic to Pran asking Pat whether their parents will like and acknowledge thier relationship. Pran has always been apprehensive about their relationship. All it takes is one stren look from his mother to shut down (as seen during the music festival), or one pause from his friends( like Wai stopped him during building the bus stop) to leave him reconsidering. Pat knows that he's been through a lot, and reassures him that he has nothing to worry about. Their parents will like their relationship too, since he likes it
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x85ik6j
Clicked on 50 different links before I got the correct one. Cries in Japanese
LOL π
The story is just not about Pran and Pat falling in love. The story draws inspiration from Romeo and Juliet.
As the story will unfold ,we will get to see how Pat and Pran along with their friends will bridge the differences and grow stronger by being together.
Just like the Capulets and Montagues learnt to sort out differences due to Romeo and Juliet's death, friends of both of Pat and Pran will grow because of uniting Pat and Pran
To quote P'Aof ... " The romance in this series will be used more than as a mere source of entertainment, but as a catalyst for change and learning"
(Pay attention to last part of episode 3 when Pat's smile vanishes while Pran was playing. He's contemplating whether he really is the jinx in Pran's life as they claim him to be)
Episode 3 part 4/4 Timestamp 9:56
#keeptheversecoming π
(Posting for better understanding of the show)
Many of us might think that it is because of the way Pat is. He is a person with good heart. He wears his heart on his sleeve. He loves to goof around and that he partly felt guilty for Pran's transfer and also the fact that his friends started the fight.
But there is a hidden pain behind his facade of happiness. Many of Pat's actions stem from this pain. All this time Pat has been considered as a jinx to Pran by :
1) his friends( scene in which Pran got transferred, Pat's friends blamed him),
2) his sister ( always blaming him )
3) all alike
when in the reality he has never tried to harm Pran or cause trouble to him in any way. Even Pran himself considers him to be a jinx in his life.
This is why sometimes the expression on his face hardens , as seen towards the end of episode 3 when Pran was playing the guitar, and Pat's smile suddenly vanishes. (Pay attention to last part of episode 3 when Pat's smile vanishes while Pran was playing. He's contemplating whether he really is the jinx in Pran's life as they claim him to be. Episode 3 part 4/4 timestamp 9:56 -10:03)
"Why are you so hard on me? Are you this hard on your other friends?"
All Pat desparately wants, is to get rid of the jinx tag he got , despite him not being at fault. He has CARED for Pran throughout his life......which is evident seeing how he kept Pran's treasured possession close to him, knowing fully well he might have to face his parents wrath. He just wants Pran to know the same.
In short, Pat and Pran have been fighting their own battles silently.
I can't help but appreciate the director. This show is the best I've come across.
PS . I don't want you to be depressed.π£
Just I felt that you should know like what's going on in their heads and driving their actions. I'm just in love with the director, and hoping that his work doesn't go unappreciated. For some of the other Thai bls that I have watched ( I respect the shows) but I could barely sit through them.