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Replying to PatriciaS Jun 26, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
I love your comments, and Im happy you liked ep, I loved VP, but have mixed feelings, so, what do you think will…
I'm flustered by your lovely comment/question, thank you ^^šŸ’•
To me, VegasPete is starting to slowly flow in the direction of romantic attraction, but it's not quite there yet. In the last episode, the sex scene was fueled by Vegas' mental breakdown/mourning but also as a way to satisfy the long-held curiosity that both Vegas and Pete had about each other. Plus how, Vegas is the type of character who needs to physically vent which he only knows how to do by either hurting/torturing someone else or himself, or then by engaging in sexual activities. But we know that, at this stage, he no longer wants to physically hurt Pete (at least not without consent and not as a way to vent), and so he resorts to slap and punch himself. Then when Pete stops him and asks him not to do so, it's almost like he has the realisation that he can try out the third option with Pete (as in, sex), of course, only with his approval. Which is why i really like that he slightly tempts Pete, without forcing him, not initiating unless Pete does, which is exactly why he seems to give up and Pete ends up initiating a deep kiss. So i see the sex scene in particular more so as exploration and as a self soothing mechanism (the colours really reflect this, mostly being blueish colours that are associated with feelings of sadness, plus the fact itself that the intimate scenes are an extension of Vegas' expressed sorrow).

There's also the rival factor that tunes in here. Im not sure if you remember, but in one of my comments i was explaining how i think one reason Vegas appreciates and is able to open up to Pete is because of how he treats him as an equal, and not just any equal, a rival in particular. This was especially apparent in the first torture scene when Vegas taunts Pete and in return, Pete sadistically laughs and smirks at him in retaliation, almost like a challenge. It's later brought up quickly with Vegas telling Pete to "stop pretending to sleep and laugh at (him)Ā Ā». And i feel like they've subtly kept this up until now without it necessarily being mentioned even, almost like a secret language. Which is why, before the sex scene, its almost like Vegas challenges Pete amusingly. I like to think that it's the reason why Pete blurts out "you're a psycho" because he didnt think Vegas would tease him essentially in that way, especially because he knows that Vegas is very capable of going through it if Pete takes up the challenge, and again, I appreciate that even then, consent is key.

So, to come back to your question, i think that in the next episode, we're going to see romantic feelings form and properly develop between the two as we saw in the preview that Pete and Vegas have a heart to heart talk after having had sex for the first time. I don't think they'd "fall in love" immediately just because of what they did but i think that we may start to see a stronger form of attachment where Vegas and Pete will finally interact without the power imbalance imposed by the chains (when Pete was still captive). Speaking of, i thought it was brilliant how they created an opportunity for Pete to escape before the sex scene because that truly showed Pete's stance, that there is a part of him that wants to be there for and be by Vegas' side, willingly. He's not so naive as to risk his own life, potentially his grandmother's, and even eventually Kinn and Porsche's possibly (as he could be used as a hostage), so it's not just pity that made him stay. It's a true sense of empathy and affection he is starting to feel for Vegas, and the way that, he too, could connect and open up to him in such a vulnerable way, that made him stay. So i like that those scenes took place as it would have been a lot more complicated to unpack the possible romanticisation/morally questionable aspects of the sex scene had he still been chained. In episode 11, the sex scene solidifies their trust for each other in my view, trust with the chains, the cords, the safe practice of sex. It's a safe space for the two of them, and in the act, they feel more complete than they ever have.

In the upcoming episodes, the foreseeing conflict will probably have to do with romance clashing with duty. Pete is technically free to some extent but he's going to stay for a while longer with Vegas out of his own volition, because he cares, and through that, their bond will strenghten. Issue is that, because he has attained a certain amount of freedom (he has a choice now). It might weight more and more on Pete that he has to return and fulfil his duties as a bodyguard, especially as he initially stayed because he couldnt bear to leave Vegas crumbled like he was. However, if Vegas' state improves, that need/sense of obligation almost may weaken in the face of duty (and we know that Pete eventually escapes, according to the novel, so im curious to see what specifically gets him to do so without him telling Vegas in an honest manner, given that he's been so straightforward with him so far, and unlike Porsche, he has a deeper capacity for psychological understanding/analysis). The question is how does Vegas evolve from here? Vegas is twisted and damaged character, he won't become a knight and shining hero overnight, he will perhaps, always retain bits and pieces of what made him this way in the first place. The scene in which he kicks the book from Pete's hands is a perfect example of this. It's a great reminder to both Pete and the audience that even after all the "wholesome" scenes of Vegas feeding Pete and the kiss etc., he can still snap and act violently (withdrawing to the only defenses he know of). I'm thinking he might become more and more open to hearing Pete out and connecting with him, as he is finally discovering that warmth that he had always (subconsciously) seeked - pete said it best: "in other words, you need love". But he might be more reluctant and taken aback in some instances like we saw in the book. There's not much else to go on so I'll leave it at that :)

Hopefully i gave you a satisfying answer (i might just repost my comment as a general overview of the episode). Tell me what you think! <3
On KinnPorsche Jun 26, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
Not sure why, but I really shed quite a lot of tears watching the last episode, just because i was so moved. I may have teared up a few times before whilst viewing the series, but i was strangely pulled to the screen, unable to focus on anything else for a while even after i had finished it. It was a strange feeling, particularly with VegasPete. I felt my chest tighten even at the thought of them, perhaps it's because the beauty of the intimacy they shared that was just that impactful, and the way it's progressing so- naturally to me.
I tried to capture a bit of that feeling in this edit, im not sure if it emcompasses everything but i think it reflects a bit of the state i was in watching the episode in itself :

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNMH9WV2/?k=1

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Replying to Clara Jun 24, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
Soo good honey šŸ’ÆšŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ˜Ž
Thank you :D
Replying to Yunhogwarts Jun 23, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
VP stans are the horniest mfs I’m scared of us sometimes
I see that
Replying to Maiden Jun 21, 2022
If anyone wants to watch ep 3 with eng sub they can watch it on kissasian.li
Thx!!
Replying to PatriciaS Jun 19, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
i loved your observations, so glad i got to read them again and i agree 100%. it must've been super intriguing…
Thank you, i'm glad you enjoyed them!! And for sure, Vegas is witnessing someone like Pete for the first time and it's blowing him away haha he doesnt know what to do (just thinking about Vegas' face when Pete was being picky about the food lol). I'm excited to see him in love with Pete. I've got to say actually that Pete could be turning into my favourite character. The scene of him explaining his past to Vegas just encapsulates the way he views life in a very sensible, understanding yet critical manner. His hopefulness amid the darkness is captivating. So yeah, i def look forward to the rest ^^
On KinnPorsche Jun 19, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
VegasPete: the kiss

The kiss scene was really memorable to me so I wanted to analyse it in a few segments. Firstly, did anyone notice the parallel of the kiss between Vegas and Pete with the kiss from Snow White and the Sleeping Beauty? It came to mind and i thought the comparison was very fitting. In both of those fairy tales, the protagonist falls unconscious and is in a near-death state. Both end up this way because someone with ill-intentions deliberately hurt them (the poisonous apple in snow white and the wheel in sleeping beauty), and only a true love's kiss can wake them up. With Pete, he was also targeted by someone with ill-intentions (Vegas), badly wounded and beaten by these malicious actions, which causes him to lose consciousness, then is kissed shortly after.

Pete is in fact awake when the kiss happens, but to me, that parallel is still there as it still captures the meaning of it: a person who, through care, 'revives' the person who nearly died. Vegas bandaging Pete up is also a way to show that he has the capacity to "love" others. Love, here, in the sense that he can show compassion and has to heart to heal others. This process of healing and recovery is finalised through the kiss. When Vegas put the pill in his mouth and asked Pete if he was afraid it would be poison, it was particularly evocative of the poisonous apple from Snow White. It's like he was implying that Pete might be afraid that he was taking care of his injuries as just another ploy, and that he would deal another blow with the pill, repeating his previous actions.

The kiss then, is like a way for Vegas to present himself anew, not as the evil witch/queen from Snow White or Maleficent from the Sleeping Beauty, but as the prince, the savior this time. I love how Vegas all in all plays both roles in the end, afterall he was the one who inflicted those wounds on Pete. But his ability to care for the life of another is proven here, and so the kiss is ultimately an act of humanity.

About the kiss itself, I'd like to fawn for a moment over it, as I absolutely love its nature. To me, at least, the kiss that Vegas and Pete share isnt romantic nor is it sexual. It's a platonic kiss but it has power and meaning to it. Firstly because of what I said about it just earlier, about it being a humanising feature. Secondly because we know that Pete associates it to a romantic gesture. Yet I love how, even if that's the case, he doesnt suddenly believe that Vegas has feelings for him, not even as a comedic afterthought. He's shocked, yes, showing that it did have an impact on him, but he neither questions Vegas nor makes a fuss about it. He accepts it for what it was (maybe because he even acknowledges that it was more so a way for Vegas to evidence that he is purely trying to help him, without ulterior motives).

He takes it as a moment of sincerity for Vegas. To take it as anything else, especially as some proof of romantic affection (when it's clear that Vegas is at this point only drawn to Pete on a platonic level) would be ruining the point about Pete understanding and seeing the true Vegas. It would just make him another Tawan, especially if that caused him to suddenly feel romantic emotions for Vegas (and we see this in other types of media where a character might, after a kiss, develop feelings but im glad that's not the case here). And so the kiss in itself is truly quite beautiful when you think about it. It's neither romantic nor platonic but it matters to the characters. I already touched on how it affected Pete. For Vegas, even if he was a lot more easygoing about it, I still think it was a moment that allowed him to express himself with candour, to perform a truly selfless act. Their kiss is a "true love's kiss" because the intentions were true. How often do we see that in media where characters share such a pure kiss?

I'd also like to add that Vegas may have been compelled to use kissing particularly because he doesn't really know how to express himself genuinely. It's counterintuitive for him, who was brought up mastering the art of deceit. So it's actually a little bit saddening as well, that he uses the least harmful form of behaviour that he's learned, that of being physically intimate.

I'd also quickly like to mention the way Pete was thinking aloud next to Vegas which encapsulated the tattoo he has on his body about honesty. Even in his circumstances, he isn't hiding an agenda from Vegas and reveals his thoughts openly instead of keeping them to himself. Pete as honesty, Vegas as deceit. I love those details in the story.

Hope this was intruiging to read<3
On KinnPorsche Jun 18, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
(About Vegas' recent development, my thoughts)

I see that some people may not have been satisfied with Vegas' development especially about the Pete-almost-dying-reaction, but I actually expected the series to take this turn with Vegas and Pete. They did this with Kinn, then Kim, now Vegas. What I mean is that they may ā€œskipā€ some development, especially early development and jump straight into the action. However, whilst these slight twists can feel rushed perhaps to some, I think that ultimately the series does a good job at coming full circle so that certain behaviours, that may initially seem out of character, make sense later on. I realised this during episode 11 when Kim pushed Chay away. If anyone remembers my previous comments about Kim, it’s that I’ve been saying that his character was written as the type who could have easily rejected Chay earlier. Yet he was swayed. So I would understand if someone felt like this was unlike Kim, to behave so impulsively.

With the scene of episode 11, we finally see Kim’s initial character traits reinforced as he goes back to being cold and calculating. We can analyse this as 1. Kim wanting to push Chay away because he’s more than aware now that Chay will be in danger no matter what, being linked to the mafia world through Porsche, and then 2. Because he knew that Chay would find out about his identity after the kidnapping, anticipating that Chay would move into the main household for protection. Both of these reasons combined most likely make Kim feel like he 1. Doesn’t deserve to be by Chay’s side and accepts his fate, perhaps from the get go he knew this would happen some day but just wanted to stay with him until then (which would explain even better why he accepted the confession), then 2. Chay doesn’t need him anymore in terms of physical protection so he can let go of him knowing that he is safe. All in all, it seems like Kim is ā€œback into characterā€, and most importantly, we, as an audience, feel like we understand his previous reactions better now. I must also note that actually, what this is really doing is that the characters also feel more realistic. They’re less ā€œpolishedā€, they’re not predictable simplistic archetypes. They actually feel human. Could the writing be more tight, or could the show sometimes make character development more clear? Perhaps, but I appreciate these aspects when getting to anticipate and comprehend character building in the series.

So, with the Kim analysis, I feel that there is a similar thing with Vegas. I saw people in the comments saying that his concern over Pete’s life seemed out of place. That interpretation is completely valid of course, but I’d like to share why I felt that it was justified within his character arc. One argument that I saw was that Vegas didn’t show nor feel any sympathy toward his other ā€œvictimsā€ or pawns. (Like with Porsche and Tawan) and this is something I commented on too in an analysis I made of Vegas. However, the reason why, to me, Vegas didn’t show any compassion toward them as compared to with Pete is because of the fact that he wasn’t being earnest with them. He was putting up an act and deceiving them. Sure, Tawan was aware that Vegas was ill-intentioned toward others (!) but to him, Vegas appeared in front of him in the form of a seductive angel, and only believed in the fabricated version Vegas made of himself. Same with Porsche pretty much. With Pete, he basically showed his darkest sides: his capacity to torture ruthlessly, his manipulativeness, his violence and anger issues, even how he is mistreated by his father and how that affects him.

Vegas has been showing sides to Pete that no one has ever seen before, and again, Pete remains strong and courageous despite everything. Vegas probably sensed this too, but even if in certain moments Pete showed anger and hatred toward him (i’m thinking of the emotional blackmail with his grandmother), then there was never an instance when Pete looked down on him. In fact, it’s the very opposite. The torture scenes are poised as a sort of mental battle in and of themselves, and Pete takes Vegas very seriously. Provokes him, remains mostly unwavering, and most importantly, treats Vegas as an equal. I’ve touched on Vegas’ inferiority complex before and in the new episode, it was even more apparent (with his dad directly stating that he will always remain inferior to Kinn, then the convo between Vegas and Pete about V always being compared to Kinn and how damaging that has been for him), so this is significant.

Pete treats Vegas as another human being, as someone with worth, as someone equal. Neither inferior (like with his father, and Kinn) nor superior (like with Tawan or Macau). And he does this despite everything that Vegas does to him, Vegas showing his true self basically. So, when taking all of that into consideration, it’s actually not so surprising that he would panic at the possibility of Pete having died. If he had already developed feelings and was worried about him dying because of that, then yes, I would agree that it would be rushed. But Vegas’ panic over Pete possibly dying is not out of love, not yet (the preview only just hinted that things will turn sexual and then eventually romantic, I assume).

At this stage, though, his concern is platonic, and it’s because, on a subconscious level, he probably felt that he could have just lost the first person who treated him as an equal, as a person, and who saw his ā€œtrue coloursā€. And I say subconsciously, because we actually saw at the very beginning of the episode that Vegas refused to shoot Pete because being with him was ā€œso darn funā€. Yes he also means that torturing Pete is an amusing form of play for him, and that he’s intrigued by Pete holding up after all he’s been through. But I think that at the core, he was actually referring to (again, on a subconscious level) that idea of him feeling like he can just be himself, like he’s seen as an equal (I’m repeating this word too much). Why? Because doesn’t it make sense that it wouldn’t be ā€œfunā€ being around people who treat you only as inferior or superior?

Indeed, they already set this up from the very beginning of the episode, and so to me, I find his reaction to discovering Pete unconscious natural enough. One thing about this series that’s cool, is that the writing and directing really do leave you space to make up your own interpretation entirely, and you could say this about any piece of media *technically*, but Kinnporsche gives you that extra piece of freedom to explore vastly different interpretations and feel uniquely about each scene whilst still making the overall narrative coherent to the viewers.

Anyway, I am sleep deprived as it is so goodnight lovelies <3 Hope you found this interesting
Replying to Likai Jun 18, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
So, a word game! Something different this time. āœØšŸŽ‰What do you expect from the next episode of Kinnporsche?Use…
Hopefully vulnerability
Replying to PatriciaS Jun 18, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
I dont think Vegas has no interest in ppl, I think the opposite. He has too much, especially when it comes to…
Thank you, i appreciate that too ^^
I’m curious to see how those half truths/half lies will come to play with Pete, and no worries haha I personally haven’t read the novel but I hear a lot about it, so for this review I just tried to cast away any assumptions I made from the novel and focus solely on my observation from the series. I was initially not going to write down my analysis at all but it’s indeed so nice to hear different point of views
Replying to NNB Jun 17, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
Are you a Psychology student??
This made my day hihi, I’m not actually but I take this as a great compliment :>
Replying to Dragonfly Barbie Jun 17, 2022
Title KinnPorsche
All that aside you are a really good writer : )
thank you, that makes me really happy :D