Description under the teaser on Youtube says "Free at Viu only".
Yes, according to Wikipedia they only serve Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Philippines, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Egypt, Indonesia, Jordan, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Myanmar and South Africa. I don't live in one of those countries, so I really hope it will work with a VPN, too.
A little reminder that there is a topic in "Discussions" above with links to all previous episodes, even though it isn't shown (because the code on this page seems to be borked). Just click "Create new discussion" and you'll see it. (I didn't make it; I just want to call attention to it.)
Took its slot and Mix is in it, but yeah, a whole other kettle of, um, fish. (sorry)Thai dramas seem to have a…
First of all, I said "Thai dramas", not "this drama". Second, being large is not the only way people can be body-shamed. In this drama, Pi is considered (by himself and others) as unattractive, due in part to his glasses, braces, hairstyle, general styling. If you are looked down upon because you do not conform to the current beauty norms in your culture, that's shaming. But like @imringoloveme said, they also have people who balance this in THIS particular drama by thinking Pi is cute as he is. I have no problem with makeovers if it's done as a fun thing, to discover new things about yourself, or just for variation. I also have no opinion on people who like to beautify themselves. I do think it's a problem when it becomes so mandatory in a culture that people who can't or won't conform to this mindset are looked down on.
Although i don't get the dramaland trope that braces, glasses and nerdess make you unattractive, i really enjoyed…
Took its slot and Mix is in it, but yeah, a whole other kettle of, um, fish. (sorry) Thai dramas seem to have a lot of body shaming. It's good that they address bullying and self-loathing, but I think it's not entirely unproblematic to "solve" it by giving the main character a makeover -- but I guess we'll see how it plays out.
making money off gay people? what? how? most of the writers are straight, most of the actors are straight, most…
Some people are indeed married to their anger, as you put it, but others have valid and painful reasons for their anger, and that can make it hard for them to pull back and be tolerant or forgiving when they are triggered (and depending on what they've been through, they may not feel that they should have to). The problem is that we can't tell from a username on the internet which it is we are dealing with. I can absolutely see that you meant no harm, but I also think that the statement "Fetishisation is a male thing" is a little bit categorical, especially if you use the wider definitions of "fetishisation". I'd say that fetishisation is definitely what is going on with the BL industry, and I understand why it can make some LGBTQ people upset and angry, while other LGBTQ people enjoy watching it for the romance and the fantasy of True Love and Happily Ever After (which is the reason why anyone watches/reads romance, because let's face it, romance is chock full of unrealistic tropes and occasional toxicity even when it's straight).
But it's also true that the vast majority of porn is produced for the male gaze and that the vast majority of romance (books and movies/dramas) is produced for a female audience. That doesn't mean that no women ever watch the former, or that no men ever read or watch the latter, though, and I may be totally biased here, but I do feel that romance is just a little bit emotionally healthier than porn. Up until fairly recently, romance has also, unlike porn, been without real life victims in its production process (if we discount the way consumers can be misguided by it), but the BL genre is changing that, which is what Aam Anusorn is trying to show us here, and that's something we have to face up to as BL consumers. I love BL, but I would like the industry to be a healthy and respectful environment for everyone who works in it.
It's interesting that Lovely Writer is also addressing these issues, but in a different way that doesn't pretend to be altogether realistic.
making money off gay people? what? how? most of the writers are straight, most of the actors are straight, most…
From reading your conversation, I'd say it was the fetishization comment. I think part of the problem lies in how you define "fetishization".
● A sexual kink for a certain object, body part or activity. (Classic textbook psychological definition) ● An excessive or irrational devotion to an object, activity, etc [source: Dictionary.com] ● The romanticization and glamourization of a group of people usually based on prejudices, stereotypes and ignorance about them; often a masked or seemingly inverted form of racism, sexism etc. that appears positive on the surface but may be harmful or exploitative for the group in question.
Sometimes people mean one of these definitions when they use the word, and sometimes a mix of them. I'd say that straight men's interest in watching porn with two women having sex is usually more of a sexual kink than any form of romanticization of lesbians, whereas straight women's interest in watching or reading about two men falling in love (and kissing/having physical intimacy) is a combination of the two (and other factors), in various proportions depending on the individual woman. (I am intentionally excluding LGBTQ+ people as consumers of BL from this analysis simply because I don't feel I have the right or competence to speak for them in this matter.)
I am a BL/MM romance fan myself and because I also want to be a real LGBTQ+ ally, I have spent a lot of time thinking about how and why I am drawn to LGBTQ+ media, and I think it's very multilayered and complex issue -- not something that can be explained simply by calling it a "fetish", though I also won't claim that that would be completely wrong. Still, any attempt to explain it properly would require much more space than this comment section allows. Like you said, I am more in it for the romance than for the sexual titillation of it, though I wont deny that the latter can be a factor. Personally, I prefer narratives that try their best to not gloss over or misrepresent real life LGBTQ issues and are respectful to the community, but I also want butterflies and happy endings in my romance, whether it's straight or not. For the record, I am a grey ace/grey aro cishet woman.
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I don't live in one of those countries, so I really hope it will work with a VPN, too.
I have no problem with makeovers if it's done as a fun thing, to discover new things about yourself, or just for variation. I also have no opinion on people who like to beautify themselves. I do think it's a problem when it becomes so mandatory in a culture that people who can't or won't conform to this mindset are looked down on.
Thai dramas seem to have a lot of body shaming. It's good that they address bullying and self-loathing, but I think it's not entirely unproblematic to "solve" it by giving the main character a makeover -- but I guess we'll see how it plays out.
I can absolutely see that you meant no harm, but I also think that the statement "Fetishisation is a male thing" is a little bit categorical, especially if you use the wider definitions of "fetishisation". I'd say that fetishisation is definitely what is going on with the BL industry, and I understand why it can make some LGBTQ people upset and angry, while other LGBTQ people enjoy watching it for the romance and the fantasy of True Love and Happily Ever After (which is the reason why anyone watches/reads romance, because let's face it, romance is chock full of unrealistic tropes and occasional toxicity even when it's straight).
But it's also true that the vast majority of porn is produced for the male gaze and that the vast majority of romance (books and movies/dramas) is produced for a female audience. That doesn't mean that no women ever watch the former, or that no men ever read or watch the latter, though, and I may be totally biased here, but I do feel that romance is just a little bit emotionally healthier than porn. Up until fairly recently, romance has also, unlike porn, been without real life victims in its production process (if we discount the way consumers can be misguided by it), but the BL genre is changing that, which is what Aam Anusorn is trying to show us here, and that's something we have to face up to as BL consumers. I love BL, but I would like the industry to be a healthy and respectful environment for everyone who works in it.
It's interesting that Lovely Writer is also addressing these issues, but in a different way that doesn't pretend to be altogether realistic.
I think part of the problem lies in how you define "fetishization".
● A sexual kink for a certain object, body part or activity. (Classic textbook psychological definition)
● An excessive or irrational devotion to an object, activity, etc [source: Dictionary.com]
● The romanticization and glamourization of a group of people usually based on prejudices, stereotypes and ignorance about them; often a masked or seemingly inverted form of racism, sexism etc. that appears positive on the surface but may be harmful or exploitative for the group in question.
Sometimes people mean one of these definitions when they use the word, and sometimes a mix of them. I'd say that straight men's interest in watching porn with two women having sex is usually more of a sexual kink than any form of romanticization of lesbians, whereas straight women's interest in watching or reading about two men falling in love (and kissing/having physical intimacy) is a combination of the two (and other factors), in various proportions depending on the individual woman.
(I am intentionally excluding LGBTQ+ people as consumers of BL from this analysis simply because I don't feel I have the right or competence to speak for them in this matter.)
I am a BL/MM romance fan myself and because I also want to be a real LGBTQ+ ally, I have spent a lot of time thinking about how and why I am drawn to LGBTQ+ media, and I think it's very multilayered and complex issue -- not something that can be explained simply by calling it a "fetish", though I also won't claim that that would be completely wrong. Still, any attempt to explain it properly would require much more space than this comment section allows. Like you said, I am more in it for the romance than for the sexual titillation of it, though I wont deny that the latter can be a factor. Personally, I prefer narratives that try their best to not gloss over or misrepresent real life LGBTQ issues and are respectful to the community, but I also want butterflies and happy endings in my romance, whether it's straight or not.
For the record, I am a grey ace/grey aro cishet woman.