so this is my copied response to another user in this thread. hope it helps you get some closure."I mean in any…
Lol i'm not even comparing the two dramas, i'm just comparing the lead roles. Saying that the way Run On has executed its characters so well where they actually helped the story have a plot, like if there was one character out, it would not been the same. Exactly like that. They did it so well that u its not too much, a beautiful balance.
All i have said is that Seojun and Soojin should have been executed better. If they were, i would have given this a 10. Im not saying add unessecary scenes of Seojun and Soojin where they are doing normal every things, im saying give them a purpose where they actually help the plot become more of an actual plot.
Seojun and Soojin here are basically kids who have unrequited love. What if they were cut from the drama? It woulden't make a difference to me. Because their purpose to this is shallow. The only part of Seojun i actually loved and he shined so brightly was his character developement. His unification with Suho. That was beautiful so i thought this drama was actually going somewhere. Soojin, just another girl to bring bring spice to this drama with her unrealistic reaction to Suho's rejection.
Of course this drama has got the job done with the main story but as people speculated from the beginning, the second roles are just bridges for the FL and ML. And thats exactly what happened. You can prefer this but i dont. Idk why u would waste so much of a lead roles characters own potential for another simple rom com. The unrequited love and better purposeful Seojun and Soojun would have made this a 10 for me. This Unrequited love is just an outdated trope, and it gets annoying.
I am of a different option, I feel that a 2 yr time skip might show that true love stands the test of time. Maybe…
exactly this whole drama would have never existed without the webtoon so why so people expect to not expect scenes that u already remember of? its natural to feel some type of way. its natural to have expectations.
All I have seen in episode 14 is seojun appearing and she falls onto his shoulder in a drunken state. It would…
Did i say that Seojun and Jugyeong need to love eachother? No bruh. I just said Seojun deserves better as someone more, someone who can move on then be later more hurt in the end over a freaking girl.
And that drunk part, someone would have not just put their head over that persons shoulder after they JUST came into the store. Jugyeong initially put her head on the table but after she saw Seojun sit next to her, she put it over his. And her comfortableness has been shown in the past episodes. She literally goes to him for advice and concerns, like? Hes the one who helped her get a job. He's been a fantastic friend and literally is there for her when she is not mentally well.
Also its just a speculation. And its logical. Again, this drama would have never been existed without the webtoon so its natural to feel an expectation. We all make speculations and theories.
What can be done with Seojun in two more episodes? People are just in fear that hes already in the pathway to just end as a mere third wheel. You can think differently, but for me, he deserves a better story.
so this is my copied response to another user in this thread. hope it helps you get some closure."I mean in any…
I think differently Run On has done a fantastic job in giving the four characters equal roles where they all have a purpose. This drama also has 16 episodes but they ended up putting so much information, complexity, depth in the charectization. The story itself comes off as straightforward because its not dramatic and cliche but if you see through the curtains, its so much more complex, with each word the characters say, there is a meaning and worth. There are lessons and actual purposes, all done in a 14 episodes. The episodes are also shorter than true beauty but they have conquered so much with the characters. What i like to see is characters actually serving the plot diligently .
Comedy elements are just a way of being entertained, if it werent for the comedy in this drama a lot probably would have dropped it because there is not much layers to this story. Yeah there are deep elements but that doesnt equal the whole story being complex. Its predictable, very.
As i have said, this show would have never been existed without the webtoon. Of course you shouldent compare it with the webtoon but isnt it natural to have some sort of expectation? For example, lets say this drama turned Jugyeong into someone whos really naive to the point its execute as someone who is a damsel in distress. Actually, shes better because she holds a lot of independent values, even though she still struggles to be aware and be smart sometimes. But what if she was just turned into someone very stupid? I would be equally as dissapointed because her character could have had so much more purpose.
When people look at lead roles, they look at it as someone/something that serves a purpose to this story. Are these writers really telling me that Seojun, a guy whos most of the time left alone (yet still so selfless) and Soojin who started getting all wimpy out of nowhere actual l-leads? I could care less about their screen time because they never even got half of their potential covered. I'm not saying make them more important than the mains, but as a lead, u should at least serve something more worthful than being executed like that.
Its only 2 episodes left and i personally find the way their characters have been dealt with is a little wasted.
U said "Another aspect of this is, do we really want to know that much about soojin and seojun though? maybe for the fans of those characters, but really it adds no value to the actual story and to the ML and FL." T
hen why did they get so many scenes? Why were there thoughts and actions always repeated within the story?
A story does not only consist of the FL and ML. It consists of everything is wrapped around. Imagine true beauty without all the memorable second lead characters, comedy, and crazy classmates, would it have shined so brightly? No. It would have been boring.
They could definitely fitten many more info but they decided not to. I guess i should not be expecting much from a cliche rom com.
It has definitely been done well but all the characters have not been given the justice.
I'm going to paste a comment i just recently made since i feel like some people are confused with Seojun and Jugyeong drunk scene. When people mean by him taking care of her, OBVIOUSLY its not literal. But more mentally and conceptually"
"The drunk scene is from the webtoon. After Suho left Jugyeong, he was the one by her side. Jugyeong was going through mental issues after the breakup and Seojun was the one who comforted her through all this time. He restrained himself from confessing, even though he was hurting inside, because he wanted her to be happy and heal from the experience. He still supported their relationship.
And with a cherry on top, the drunken scene shows Jugyeong laying her head on his shoulder because she is THAT comfortable with him.
I myself don't ship them but this girl is so unaware of a guy who has literally done so much for you. Even as a friend, she doesn't acknowledge much of his efforts. He is obviously looking after her because he cares about her. Which is why i don't get their friendship. Its more one sided just like the romance.
so yes, he does deserve better. the writers did it wrong for making suho leave. if they wanted him to leave, then seojun should have moved on as well but since hes the second lead (even tho hes part of the lead team where characters are supposed to be more than third wheels, like ??) he will obviously just be more hurt in the end.
so this is my copied response to another user in this thread. hope it helps you get some closure."I mean in any…
Seojun and Soojin = just like every other second leads in every other cliche kdramas.Just the difference is that the second leads the way they are portrayed are actual support roles.
Its natural for people to get tired of this. Especially when its made from a popular webtoon where Seojun had so much more purpose and light, this drama would not have half the views if it werent for the adaptation. Though of course, i do like this more and it has at least given justice to Jugyeongs first love.
I'm not saying that Seojun and Soojin had absolutely no purpose, but the potential could have been so much more.
This is a public forum so if people are not okay or tired of something, they have the complete right to complain about it. There is no such thing as True Beauty rules.
For Seojun, i would have loved if he never had the unrequited love in the first place but even if he did, was it really necessary for him to look like a mere third wheel? Was it really necessary for them to keep on rubbing that no matter what he cant let her go, only to be hurt in the end? He has a whole different story of his own where he is a kpop trainee and financial problems, a dad who committed suicide. Where was all that?
The drunk scene is from the webtoon. After Suho left Jugyeong, he was the one by her side. Jugyeong was going through mental issues after the breakup and Seojun was the one who comforted her through all this time. He restrained himself from confessing, even though he was hurting inside, because he wanted her to be happy and heal from the experience. He still supported their relationship. And with a cherry on top, the drunken scene shows Jugyeong laying her head on his shoulder because she is THAT comfortable with him. I myself don't ship them but this girl is so unaware of a guy who has literally done so much for you. Even as a friend, she doesn't acknowledge much of his efforts. He is obviously looking after her because he cares about her.
For Soojin, I did not mind that she turned terrible, in fact, if someone is antagonist in a story, cool. I do like to see shit characters as well but the way she was executed could have been so much more better. She herself has a story, she herself had her reasons on why she turned chaotic. But what was given the most light? That she is a mere third wheel who was not able to stand her lifelong guy friend, whom she just started liking recently, date the girl she secretly looks at as someone lower. Her story could have been better executed on how she turned like that, what she was feeling, her arrogance, her agony. But what did it show? Just another girl who is supposed to be smart but acts dumb and tries to kiss the guy cause he rejected her -_-
These two people are part of the lead role. Seriously? A third wheel is a lead role? If the writer really wanted to reduce their story so much then they should have been a support role. Its not about how much scenes you get, its about how you character is executed.
Take for example the other airing kdrama, Run On, this story also has four lead roles. But guess what? this story actually put the worth of the name and gave all of the characters a good story, purpose, worth, and different love story. Of course i'm not comparing the two genres but its common to give a lead role an actual execution.
Just let seo Jun go of her man.. that is some typical time lap we have seen hundreds of times.
right its always the hE cAnT leT gO nO mAtTeR hOw mUch hE tRiEs sO hE lOoKs aFtEr hEr fOr a wHoLe tWo yEaRs oNlY tO fiNaLlY cOnFeSs bUt tHeN hEr tRuE LoVe cOmEs oUt oF nOwhErE sO nOw hE fEels mOrE gUiLty, tHe eNd :) wow so genius -_-
so this is my copied response to another user in this thread. hope it helps you get some closure."I mean in any…
We know that, but this is a romcom. Not a melodrama.
Seojun could have been so much more, than the writer shoving into our faces that hes some third wheel looking after a naive girl for two whole years, who does not even acknowledge a third of his efforts, but nope, since hes the second lead, and kdramas always tend to reduce them to just a love interest, that is what it is for him. This trope with kdramas, even every other country shows, is so outdated. I appreciate his efforts, i like how he is willing to be so selfless to look after Jugyeong even is she loves someone else, but for a kdrama, you don't expect realism. In real life, of course love is not rational and theres always that loner guy but for a rom com like this, Seojun could have been more than in a love triangle.
Both Soojin and Seojun could have been more, instead of third wheels...but you can't really expect much from second leads. Thats the way kdramas are and i hope they can change it to actually giving the second leads some better purpose.
so this is my copied response to another user in this thread. hope it helps you get some closure."I mean in any…
We know that, but this is a romcom. Not a melodrama.
Seojun could have been so much more than just some third wheel looking after a naive girl for two whole years, who does not even acknowledge a third of his efforts, but nope, since hes the second lead, and kdramas always tend to reduce them to just a love interest, that is what it is for him. This trope with kdramas, even every other country shows, is so outdated. I appreciate his efforts, i like how he is willing to be so selfless to look after Jugyeong even is she loves someone else, but for a kdrama, you don't expect realism. In real life, of course love is not rational and theres always that loner guy but for a rom com like this, Seojun could have been more than in a love triangle.
Both Soojin and Seojun could have been more, instead of third wheels...but you can't really expect much from second leads. Thats the way kdramas are and i hope they can change it to actually giving the second leads some better purpose.
All i have said is that Seojun and Soojin should have been executed better. If they were, i would have given this a 10. Im not saying add unessecary scenes of Seojun and Soojin where they are doing normal every things, im saying give them a purpose where they actually help the plot become more of an actual plot.
Seojun and Soojin here are basically kids who have unrequited love. What if they were cut from the drama? It woulden't make a difference to me. Because their purpose to this is shallow. The only part of Seojun i actually loved and he shined so brightly was his character developement. His unification with Suho. That was beautiful so i thought this drama was actually going somewhere. Soojin, just another girl to bring bring spice to this drama with her unrealistic reaction to Suho's rejection.
Of course this drama has got the job done with the main story but as people speculated from the beginning, the second roles are just bridges for the FL and ML. And thats exactly what happened. You can prefer this but i dont. Idk why u would waste so much of a lead roles characters own potential for another simple rom com. The unrequited love and better purposeful Seojun and Soojun would have made this a 10 for me. This Unrequited love is just an outdated trope, and it gets annoying.
And that drunk part, someone would have not just put their head over that persons shoulder after they JUST came into the store. Jugyeong initially put her head on the table but after she saw Seojun sit next to her, she put it over his. And her comfortableness has been shown in the past episodes. She literally goes to him for advice and concerns, like? Hes the one who helped her get a job. He's been a fantastic friend and literally is there for her when she is not mentally well.
Also its just a speculation. And its logical. Again, this drama would have never been existed without the webtoon so its natural to feel an expectation. We all make speculations and theories.
What can be done with Seojun in two more episodes? People are just in fear that hes already in the pathway to just end as a mere third wheel. You can think differently, but for me, he deserves a better story.
Run On has done a fantastic job in giving the four characters equal roles where they all have a purpose. This drama also has 16 episodes but they ended up putting so much information, complexity, depth in the charectization. The story itself comes off as straightforward because its not dramatic and cliche but if you see through the curtains, its so much more complex, with each word the characters say, there is a meaning and worth. There are lessons and actual purposes, all done in a 14 episodes. The episodes are also shorter than true beauty but they have conquered so much with the characters. What i like to see is characters actually serving the plot diligently .
Comedy elements are just a way of being entertained, if it werent for the comedy in this drama a lot probably would have dropped it because there is not much layers to this story. Yeah there are deep elements but that doesnt equal the whole story being complex. Its predictable, very.
As i have said, this show would have never been existed without the webtoon. Of course you shouldent compare it with the webtoon but isnt it natural to have some sort of expectation? For example, lets say this drama turned Jugyeong into someone whos really naive to the point its execute as someone who is a damsel in distress. Actually, shes better because she holds a lot of independent values, even though she still struggles to be aware and be smart sometimes. But what if she was just turned into someone very stupid? I would be equally as dissapointed because her character could have had so much more purpose.
When people look at lead roles, they look at it as someone/something that serves a purpose to this story. Are these writers really telling me that Seojun, a guy whos most of the time left alone (yet still so selfless) and Soojin who started getting all wimpy out of nowhere actual l-leads? I could care less about their screen time because they never even got half of their potential covered. I'm not saying make them more important than the mains, but as a lead, u should at least serve something more worthful than being executed like that.
Its only 2 episodes left and i personally find the way their characters have been dealt with is a little wasted.
U said "Another aspect of this is, do we really want to know that much about soojin and seojun though? maybe for the fans of those characters, but really it adds no value to the actual story and to the ML and FL." T
hen why did they get so many scenes? Why were there thoughts and actions always repeated within the story?
A story does not only consist of the FL and ML. It consists of everything is wrapped around. Imagine true beauty without all the memorable second lead characters, comedy, and crazy classmates, would it have shined so brightly? No. It would have been boring.
They could definitely fitten many more info but they decided not to. I guess i should not be expecting much from a cliche rom com.
It has definitely been done well but all the characters have not been given the justice.
"The drunk scene is from the webtoon. After Suho left Jugyeong, he was the one by her side. Jugyeong was going through mental issues after the breakup and Seojun was the one who comforted her through all this time. He restrained himself from confessing, even though he was hurting inside, because he wanted her to be happy and heal from the experience. He still supported their relationship.
And with a cherry on top, the drunken scene shows Jugyeong laying her head on his shoulder because she is THAT comfortable with him.
I myself don't ship them but this girl is so unaware of a guy who has literally done so much for you. Even as a friend, she doesn't acknowledge much of his efforts. He is obviously looking after her because he cares about her. Which is why i don't get their friendship. Its more one sided just like the romance.
so yes, he does deserve better. the writers did it wrong for making suho leave. if they wanted him to leave, then seojun should have moved on as well but since hes the second lead (even tho hes part of the lead team where characters are supposed to be more than third wheels, like ??) he will obviously just be more hurt in the end.
whatever, this drama will end soon anyways.
Its natural for people to get tired of this. Especially when its made from a popular webtoon where Seojun had so much more purpose and light, this drama would not have half the views if it werent for the adaptation. Though of course, i do like this more and it has at least given justice to Jugyeongs first love.
I'm not saying that Seojun and Soojin had absolutely no purpose, but the potential could have been so much more.
This is a public forum so if people are not okay or tired of something, they have the complete right to complain about it. There is no such thing as True Beauty rules.
For Seojun, i would have loved if he never had the unrequited love in the first place but even if he did, was it really necessary for him to look like a mere third wheel? Was it really necessary for them to keep on rubbing that no matter what he cant let her go, only to be hurt in the end? He has a whole different story of his own where he is a kpop trainee and financial problems, a dad who committed suicide. Where was all that?
The drunk scene is from the webtoon. After Suho left Jugyeong, he was the one by her side. Jugyeong was going through mental issues after the breakup and Seojun was the one who comforted her through all this time. He restrained himself from confessing, even though he was hurting inside, because he wanted her to be happy and heal from the experience. He still supported their relationship. And with a cherry on top, the drunken scene shows Jugyeong laying her head on his shoulder because she is THAT comfortable with him. I myself don't ship them but this girl is so unaware of a guy who has literally done so much for you. Even as a friend, she doesn't acknowledge much of his efforts. He is obviously looking after her because he cares about her.
For Soojin, I did not mind that she turned terrible, in fact, if someone is antagonist in a story, cool. I do like to see shit characters as well but the way she was executed could have been so much more better. She herself has a story, she herself had her reasons on why she turned chaotic. But what was given the most light? That she is a mere third wheel who was not able to stand her lifelong guy friend, whom she just started liking recently, date the girl she secretly looks at as someone lower. Her story could have been better executed on how she turned like that, what she was feeling, her arrogance, her agony. But what did it show? Just another girl who is supposed to be smart but acts dumb and tries to kiss the guy cause he rejected her -_-
These two people are part of the lead role. Seriously? A third wheel is a lead role? If the writer really wanted to reduce their story so much then they should have been a support role. Its not about how much scenes you get, its about how you character is executed.
Take for example the other airing kdrama, Run On, this story also has four lead roles. But guess what? this story actually put the worth of the name and gave all of the characters a good story, purpose, worth, and different love story. Of course i'm not comparing the two genres but its common to give a lead role an actual execution.
Seojun could have been so much more, than the writer shoving into our faces that hes some third wheel looking after a naive girl for two whole years, who does not even acknowledge a third of his efforts, but nope, since hes the second lead, and kdramas always tend to reduce them to just a love interest, that is what it is for him. This trope with kdramas, even every other country shows, is so outdated. I appreciate his efforts, i like how he is willing to be so selfless to look after Jugyeong even is she loves someone else, but for a kdrama, you don't expect realism. In real life, of course love is not rational and theres always that loner guy but for a rom com like this, Seojun could have been more than in a love triangle.
Both Soojin and Seojun could have been more, instead of third wheels...but you can't really expect much from second leads. Thats the way kdramas are and i hope they can change it to actually giving the second leads some better purpose.
Seojun could have been so much more than just some third wheel looking after a naive girl for two whole years, who does not even acknowledge a third of his efforts, but nope, since hes the second lead, and kdramas always tend to reduce them to just a love interest, that is what it is for him. This trope with kdramas, even every other country shows, is so outdated. I appreciate his efforts, i like how he is willing to be so selfless to look after Jugyeong even is she loves someone else, but for a kdrama, you don't expect realism. In real life, of course love is not rational and theres always that loner guy but for a rom com like this, Seojun could have been more than in a love triangle.
Both Soojin and Seojun could have been more, instead of third wheels...but you can't really expect much from second leads. Thats the way kdramas are and i hope they can change it to actually giving the second leads some better purpose.