sara joestar

I mean, I don't like it when people praise or hate on a drama without actually saying anything about the drama, but I just scroll past them since it's a free space. If it was just one comment I would have done what you said of course, but since there were dozens of similar comments, all complaining about Netflix rather than the drama itself, I figured that posting my own comment on an issue I care about was quicker, and plenty of people agreed with me so I don't see where's the problem, it's been more than a week anyway. And also, if I had commented under one of the comments I've disagreed with I would have literally taken the same amount of space on the comment section, nothing would have changed. Finally, I can't see how my comment is supposed to be a lecture since I didn't tell anyone how they should behave lol

Watching this drama won't change anything about how I view Netflix and ott productions in general. It can even be the worst drama of the year for all I care (and I honestly doubt it is because the bar was already set too low), but that won't change the fact that people are overreacting when they say that Netflix is going to ruin kdramas just for the sole fact of including nudity, violence and blood that aren't new concepts for South Korea.

Kind of? From what I've read there are multiple stories (each character has its own story), but there will come a moment in the drama where they'll intertwine instead of having completely self contained episodes

Yes, I think that's more likely, it's what they've been doing lately

Wait, is it confirmed 6? I hope they at least drop them all at once

Same for me, Lee Byung Hun rarely disappoints. As for bargain, I'm curious about this too, because as you said the production team isn't the same. Maybe they have more ambitious projects about the apocalyptic scenario and they plan to have the storylines intertwine somehow. Or it's kind of an easter egg that won't have any real consequence lol, but that would be disappointing.

They are actually talking about season 2, the idea exists, but it's still not official from what I've understood. Also it appears that this drama is connected to the upcoming movie Concrete Utopia. It will be like a big shared universe. At least that's what I've been reading on different articles.

It's worth it though, I promise ahahah

I mean, they're right, it's basically the king of pigs minus the storyline in the present lol

I agree with you. Like I don't have anything against regular kdramas, in truth I love a lot of them and I think that many writers managed to create some great stories and touch important issues regardless of the censorship (like a lot of good slice of life do, like for example Our Blues, Lost, My Mister, Misaeng etc). But censorship is still censorship and advocating in favor of it doesn't make sense to me, especially when people choose to ignore it and act as if Netflix is forcing western values on them and destroying kdramas identity while it's obvious that this isn't the case. The only thing that Netflix and the other ott platforms are doing is offering more variety, they aren't working against regular kdramas. And this can only be a good thing.

I'm surprised that you didn't see any of these comments, since there are plenty of those here if you scroll a little, and it's not even the first time that people are bringing up this subject. As for the decline in quality, I personally disagree: each year has its ups and downs and each year has its overrated/overhyped and underrated dramas and, while I dropped quite a lot of dramas from this year, I also happened to drop a lot of dramas from the past years too.

Exactly! Like I'm fine with them not being everyone's cup of tea, I don't even know if I will like this drama myself, but the idea that South Korean's cinema is more conservative than Hollywood is just factually incorrect 😂

Park Chan Wook better do a kdrama next, if I'm not mistaken he has another collab going on with the USA right now, but I just want to see him directing a kdrama 😭

Honestly I haven't even watched this drama yet, so this comment isn't a defense of this specific drama, but I'm tired of the whole narrative of "Netflix is changing kdramas for the worst by westernizing them".

First of all Netflix will never change the way kdramas are made because local tvs like kbs, tvn and jtbc won't change their ways since they still make super successful dramas and they are subject to censorship anyway (I bet you all noticed that even kdramas rated +18 don't contain nudity, aren't that gory and things like knives and dead bodies are blurred. That's because of the censorship).

Second, kmovies have always been violent, look at any of the most famous moviemakers from South Korea like Park Chan Wook, Kim Ki Duk, Bong Joon Ho, Lee Chang Dong etc. They don't restrain themselves from showing blood, sex, violence or anything twisted; if kdrama writers want to shorten the gap between the movies and the TV shows in their country thanks to having more creative freedom due to ott platforms not being subject to censorship, it's their right to do so. If it's not your thing just don't watch it and move on instead of making a mountain out of a molehill as if it's the apocalypse of kdramaland. These dramas are a minority anyway and some of us actually prefers this kind of dramas over the more "mainstream/standard" ones, or how you want to call them, and that won't destroy the Korean spirit because South Korea has always been famous for this kind of "weird" movies.

Finally, maybe it's just a wrong idea from me, but I've noticed that people in this fanbase started hating more and more on ott dramas, especially Netflix original ones, after Netflix won most of the awards in the last baeksangs instead of other popular dramas from the local tvs. I hope it's not the case, but I can't help but feel this way. Sorry for the long rant but since everyone is using this drama's page to discuss this particular issue I also wanted to give my two cents.

Yes and no, it focuses more on the MC, but it's episodic and there are plenty of courtroom scenes through the drama

THANK YOU! She's one of the best female characters in kdramaland honestly. She's flawed and messed up, but she also proved to be capable of loyalty and not a bad person.

This drama was totally my style (might even write a full review if I'm in the mood for it lol), loved it! I hope they will make a second season because it would be interesting seeing what comes after. This is a drama I would recommend to the fans of Strangers from Hell tbh. We need more kdramas with unique concepts like this one. Also Jeon Jong Seo is such a queen, she's perfect for thrillers.

Finally, thank you so much to the lifesavior who gave us good subs! I couldn't imagine having to wait next year for Paramount + to watch one of my favorite dramas of the year.

Sorry but then what about Korean movies like Parasite, Old Boy, Asura, The Man from nowhere, I saw the devil, thirst and the wailing? I respect your opinion, but I genuinely don't understand the whole narrative about kdramas being westernized when they show blood or nudity or more mature contents since Korea has always been like this, kdramas just didn't do it because of censorship on local tvs; but ott platforms aren't subject to the same censorship so the writers and directors can do what they want like in the movies. It's not copying from the west.

That's for sure. I was disappointed by the story, but the directing and the cinematography are among the very best I've seen in a kdrama

Yep, I finished it a few days ago. Sorry for the late reply. I personally liked quite enough, even though I can't say I fell in love with it either. The best part for me were the two leads and I enjoyed how they subverted my expectations about the old man, with him being actually a crappy person, even though I don't understand why he was so nice with the FL if he was evil to the point that he didn't care about anyone. The writing was at its finest when developing their personal story arcs for me. Overall there were things I liked (the two leads, their backstory and growth, the way the bad guys were being punished vs the way the ML actually wanted them to be punished, the comedy) and things I felt a little neutral about (like the twist about the amnesia guy being actually a bad guy and the killer felt a little unnecessary in the bigger scheme of things, I felt like it didn't add anything except for being a surprise) and things that got a little on my nerve (like the ML saying that he's the killer just to reveal in the next episode, in literally the same scene, that he was kidding during the cliffhanger of the previous episode). But still it was a good drama imo, I gave it a 7.5 and I usually dislike legal dramas.

I think it depends if they're planning on using TaekRok for something else like Ji Han did. Poor man just wanted to retire but he keeps being used as a pawn 😂