I was one of the people that commented under a certain hater’s controversial fan behavior comment about a day…
I was blocked too, and could care less. Sometimes I feel MDL should add a Section called 'MDL vocabulary':) I don't use many pages on mdl, but from what I have seen, the word "toxic" always come from people with the most disturbing on-line social behaviour. This is quite ironic, because if there is a definition of toxic, that would be the behaviour of an anti-fan. And another word that should be included in the vocabulary is "logic". People thinking that freedom of expression only applies to them . On another note, EVEN if we watched a film tomorrow, that would show a 'toxic relationship' (sorry, poor beautiful utsukushi kare:))), the idea would still be to analyse the film, and the relationship and understand the message. This kind of approach as to 'it is toxic, don't watch" is childish (the least). And the reason I am openly saying this, is because it's also disturbing. Whether on or off-line, labeling relationships because they aren't to your liking isn't ok and is a form of harassment (well, here's another word to include in the vocabulary:)). This is all that's wrong in any society. And this is the reason, why I am responding to the comments.
Wasn’t bad but I do not get the hype, warning to fellow gay males you will prob not like this that much. One…
I recently watched 'Happy Together' from the famous director Wong Kar-wai (the film received many awards including a palme d'or). And here's what Wong Kar-Wai said about the film.
"In fact, I don't like people to see this film as a gay film. It's more like a story about human relationships and somehow the two characters involved are both men. Normally I hate movies with labels like 'gay film,’ 'art film' or 'commercial film.' There is only good film and bad film."
Your post is really passing the wrong message. That 'a film' is for these or those people. And it's quite stereotyped about 'bl' and 'bl fangirls'...
Have you ever looked at yourself from a height of a bird's flight, when you are in love? Love is blind, and the more your love is the love of the century, the more you might feel fluttered*. (*awkward). I would like to work with the actors to create a pure and romantic drama, that will be comforting and exciting. Get drunk with the emotions of the two people in this story, like you would, with a beautiful and strong drug.
Nope. It`s better this way.BL movies, and especially japanese BL movies almost never get as popular as BL dramas…
Sure. I understand that there is a reason for it. Who knows? May be I would be one of those who wouldn't even know about this work, if it went out as a film. It was just to say how perfectly well done is this drama. And that it would deserve being screened in Cinemas as a Film. And also, because when I think of films, I also see possibilities for them to be shown in different festivals. They truly deserve it.
If you want to learn what a toxic relationship looks like, go watch this drama. It really explains what is not…
I wonder how I didn't realize before, that ALL Asian drama are really unhealthy.
Gu Jun Pyo harassing Geum Jan Di in BBF, how toxic that was? And I had no idea... :) How dare a girl wear men's clothes and deceive someone into loving him? (Don't you like Coffee Prince?) Isn't it extremely immoral to lie? And about your gender, on top of all... And how do people dare enter into a fake marriage in Full House, when marriage should be a holy institution? Trully abominable... How dare the guy humiliate a girl, in Secret Garden, because he had money and she didn't? And she forgave and fell in love with him after that? Doesn't she have any moral integrity?
I was so naive till today. I watched romances, not understanding that they weren't teaching about love, but on the contrary, how unhealthy those characters were falling in love with the wrong people.
I forgot to tell that, in fact, to watch something healthy, we should ask everyone to watch squid game. Even though people kill each other ferociously in the drama, but at least they don't fall in love with each other displaying what toxic meant.. (Not speaking against squid game by the way).
There is one word that comes to my mind, when I read the word 'toxic' or 'unhealthy' on this page. ABSURD...
Don’t worry you are not alone who dislike it, a lot of people came here to say they are the only one who don’t…
In fact, when we speak of reactions, we should consider ratings. Whether in japan, china, or internationally (I should emphasize internationally), this drama is within highest rated japanese (ALL GENRES combined, not talking about BL). Even here on mdl, I don't know if you are watching other dramas, but this drama doesn't get more negativity than other dramas that are popular, high rated, etc. And even if it did, if it is rated 8.3 and another drama is rated 8.3 but doesn't get 'negativity' on the page, it still means, that the percentage of people who love or not love it is exactly the same.
I think “harass” and “humiliate,” are two things that never happened in the drama. And the reason I think…
Now you are actually insulting everyone else by thinking that you understand what 'harassment' is while others don't. Do you know how your post sounds. This is just an analogy. Like if someone would watch a comedy and ask why one person laughs at another. And this is why, truth be told, I don't think it is even possible to be childish enough to think these absurdities.
Since you mentioned being vocal should be ok and I agree, I'll tell you one of my concerns in this world, including in social media.
It's when someone looks at something EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL, ROMANTIC, and makes it into something extremely vulgar. Whatever the reason is behind that perception or may be just presentation, it is quite sad.
I will give some spoilers from the novel in association to some words the characters say in the drama for you…
I don't know what to do. I'd like to read your post, but I am going to read the novel. And you said youur post had spoilers. I never check anything before reading. Is it ok to reply after I read the novel? I read the first chapter and I liked the text and the feeling. For now, I don't even know where I am going to read it. If I understand correctly it's not available. I am looking for the original.
I was reading this extremely well written review, unfortunately not written in english. If I can, I'll translate some parts.
Here's one : '“Thank you for saving me, thanks to you my days are peaceful.” Neither during my first nor during my second watch, I didn't notice how deeply these Hira's words sank into Kiyoi's soul. Only on my fifth watch did I notice how attentively Kiyoi caught every sound'.
It's interesting because it was the same for me. I only noticed on my 4th or 5th waych, how 'intense' were kiyoi's reactions but shown in very subtle manner.
Sometimes I feel MDL should add a Section called 'MDL vocabulary':)
I don't use many pages on mdl, but from what I have seen, the word "toxic" always come from people with the most disturbing on-line social behaviour. This is quite ironic, because if there is a definition of toxic, that would be the behaviour of an anti-fan. And another word that should be included in the vocabulary is "logic". People thinking that freedom of expression only applies to them .
On another note, EVEN if we watched a film tomorrow, that would show a 'toxic relationship' (sorry, poor beautiful utsukushi kare:))), the idea would still be to analyse the film, and the relationship and understand the message. This kind of approach as to 'it is toxic, don't watch" is childish (the least). And the reason I am openly saying this, is because it's also disturbing. Whether on or off-line, labeling relationships because they aren't to your liking isn't ok and is a form of harassment (well, here's another word to include in the vocabulary:)). This is all that's wrong in any society. And this is the reason, why I am responding to the comments.
"In fact, I don't like people to see this film as a gay film. It's more like a story about human relationships and somehow the two characters involved are both men. Normally I hate movies with labels like 'gay film,’ 'art film' or 'commercial film.' There is only good film and bad film."
Your post is really passing the wrong message. That 'a film' is for these or those people. And it's quite stereotyped about 'bl' and 'bl fangirls'...
Love is blind, and the more your love is the love of the century, the more you might feel fluttered*. (*awkward).
I would like to work with the actors to create a pure and romantic drama, that will be comforting and exciting.
Get drunk with the emotions of the two people in this story, like you would, with a beautiful and strong drug.
Director Mai Sakai
(Translated from japanese)
Gu Jun Pyo harassing Geum Jan Di in BBF, how toxic that was? And I had no idea... :)
How dare a girl wear men's clothes and deceive someone into loving him? (Don't you like Coffee Prince?) Isn't it extremely immoral to lie? And about your gender, on top of all...
And how do people dare enter into a fake marriage in Full House, when marriage should be a holy institution? Trully abominable...
How dare the guy humiliate a girl, in Secret Garden, because he had money and she didn't? And she forgave and fell in love with him after that? Doesn't she have any moral integrity?
I was so naive till today. I watched romances, not understanding that they weren't teaching about love, but on the contrary, how unhealthy those characters were falling in love with the wrong people.
I forgot to tell that, in fact, to watch something healthy, we should ask everyone to watch squid game. Even though people kill each other ferociously in the drama, but at least they don't fall in love with each other displaying what toxic meant.. (Not speaking against squid game by the way).
There is one word that comes to my mind, when I read the word 'toxic' or 'unhealthy' on this page. ABSURD...
This is really a 'gem' not to miss for anything, especially if you like .... Romance:)
Whether in japan, china, or internationally (I should emphasize internationally), this drama is within highest rated japanese (ALL GENRES combined, not talking about BL). Even here on mdl, I don't know if you are watching other dramas, but this drama doesn't get more negativity than other dramas that are popular, high rated, etc. And even if it did, if it is rated 8.3 and another drama is rated 8.3 but doesn't get 'negativity' on the page, it still means, that the percentage of people who love or not love it is exactly the same.
Isn't this rated 8.3 on this page? So mathematically:), this drama is pretty loved, don't you think?
Do you know how your post sounds. This is just an analogy. Like if someone would watch a comedy and ask why one person laughs at another.
And this is why, truth be told, I don't think it is even possible to be childish enough to think these absurdities.
Since you mentioned being vocal should be ok and I agree, I'll tell you one of my concerns in this world, including in social media.
It's when someone looks at something EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL, ROMANTIC, and makes it into something extremely vulgar.
Whatever the reason is behind that perception or may be just presentation, it is quite sad.
EDIT I forgot to say this.I am european. :) lol
I don't have patience to wait for the english translation.
I read the first chapter and I liked the text and the feeling.
For now, I don't even know where I am going to read it. If I understand correctly it's not available. I am looking for the original.
Here's one :
'“Thank you for saving me, thanks to you my days are peaceful.”
Neither during my first nor during my second watch, I didn't notice how deeply these Hira's words sank into Kiyoi's soul. Only on my fifth watch did I notice how attentively Kiyoi caught every sound'.
It's interesting because it was the same for me. I only noticed on my 4th or 5th waych, how 'intense' were kiyoi's reactions but shown in very subtle manner.
I should rewatch this soon:)