why is it called the first night with the duke if he is a prince?
Idk how the Korean royal system works, but I think his rank is similar to a duke here, cause even though he is a prince, I don't think he is a son of the current king! Even though in the drama we have little info about his lineage so far, I think he might be a nephew or younger brother of the king? (hence the Prince rank here) Because the scene of him talking to the King and later the Queen shows how clearly hostile they both are towards him and keeping him under their watch as if he is a threat to them! Take Cdrama for example, the emperor's sons, brothers and nephews were all called princes (wang) but their actual rank and importance were distinguished by the type of "prince" title they held, often signified by different characters.
Those who read the webtoon, do they know if something actually happened on their first night??Or was the male…
Yes they do in fact sleep together for real and they both had their first time... After some research, I found that in the novel ver. the Duke did ask Ripley for consent. And while she was still drunk the author made it clear on Instagram (someone translated it and shared about it) that she was still in a solid enough state of mind to reject him if she wanted to. And considering she remembers it as a fond memory later on in the story, she must have liked it? And based on Ripley's monologues, she does indeed seem to like him. And she only strongly rejects him after realizing he is the ML, because she thinks he is making a mistake by marrying her since she's not the FL and his rightful match. Plus, she doesn't want to face the troubles of a FL. While in the manhwa ver. the artist cut a few scenes and dialogues, which made their one-night stand with her under the influence seem worse compared to how it was explained in the novel. Personally, in my head I keep the novel as the canon plot for that particular scene since it was better presented and explained there! As for the drama they kept it vague like the manhwa but they might show and talk about it more in the upcoming eps! I wrote all this because many users, even before you, seem to be curious about it! ^^
How was she so poor, while having the newest IPhone? Lol
Maybe she became poor thanks to her credit card getting maxed out due to overconsumption and debt? She does seem to love money and to spend them quite a bit after all lol
I'll be honest, after watching Ep1 the only reason I stuck with it was because the synopsis sounded so promising. The idea of former Olympic medalists working as cops really intrigued me and I was curious to see where it would go. Plus that intense fight scene near the end of the episode, accompanied by the ost. That last scene alone was enough to make me hit the "Next Episode" button and I'm so glad I did!!
To anyone starting this show, if you're not fully sold after the 1st episode like me, give it a bit more time. Trust me, it gets so much better. By Ep3 (which I just finished) I became fully invested, my heart pumping up and everything! I'm so ready for this roller coaster of emotions! May our champions rise to the top, trampling on every sleazy scammer's head along the way! š
As for the romance it feels more like a subplot so far, it feels like comic relief to balance the heavier themes, which I am actually glad for. Normally, I prefer these types of shows without any romance but Iām okay with it here as long as it stays in the background and progresses naturally. One thing I cannot stand though, is messy love triangles. Please, writers, I beg you keep it simple and don't turn this into a soap opera just a solid gripping storyline will do! Plus I would love it more to see all five of our cast become close with a wholesome relationship with each other on this journey!
Okay, I couldnāt help myself and I ended up starting it today after all! >< First impressions: Ep1 felt a bit lukewarm for me. With so much of the runtime spent on introduction, it started to drag a little and the drinking party scene felt unnecessarily long. BUT Iām really glad I stuck with it, because Episode 2 was much better! The opening of today's ep had me laughing right away and the chemistry between the leads? Sparks are definitely flying already! Watching our girl constantly freaking out was both hilarious and entertaining and the ML has this mischievous charm thatās really growing on me.
Nope, not at all! This is an adaptation of an isekai manhwa called "The First Night With the Duke". But I guess both stem from the same genre aka being about FL who transmigrate into other worlds within novels? The last couple of years it has become quite popular theme both for novels and manhwa^^
OMG FINALLY!! I've been so interested in this one after reading the synopsis and checking the cast! I hope everything turns out well and the potential isn't lost!
this question might be a little bit weird, but I've been wondering about this for a long time... Does anyone know…
I guess all countries have their own fave words to reuse in dramaland haha For Cdramas it's usually "The legend of", "love" and "blossom". I do think the English titles could use a bit more creativity honestly, it feels like they often just recycle the same handful of words. And yeah, Iāve noticed that both Cdramas and Kdramas often change the original title when translating it to English. Itās like they have a pool of standard buzzwords they pull from and just mix them with part of the original title for convenience. Sometimes it works, but other times it feels super generic imo.
Most peopleās brains can easily grasp that on a 1-10 scale, a 7.8 is generally considered a decent score. I…
"That basically means, you're rating those shows lower than 6, probably. Also, you don't rate dropped shows at all, as far as I can see. Even when you watched more than half of it."
I choose not to rate shows I havenāt finished because I donāt believe itās fair to judge something without experiencing it in its entirety. The ending and eps I didn't watch can significantly affect how a story lands and without watching it, I can't give an informed or accurate rating imo. As for why I drop shows even when Iām halfway through, itās simply a matter of time. If Iām no longer enjoying something, Iād rather move on than force myself to finish it just so I can give it a low score. On some rare occasions,that I do stick to the end for whatever reason, I do give my 7 or 6 but lately as the years go I find it a waste of time to watch something I don't enjoy anymore especially when there are so many kdrama/cdrama etc. coming out constantly.
"Okay, but you can see the 18+ rating, if someone don't like nudity or adult stuff like killing etc, they don't have to watch it, just to rate it lower later and call it p*rn."
Hmm I actually partly agree with you here, there are definitely users who skip over tags or content warnings and then complain about things they shouldāve expected. But I donāt think thatās the whole story though. Sometimes, itās not the presence of adult content itself that leads to a lower rating but rather how that content is presented to viewers. Personally, I donāt have a problem with R-rated material be it violence or nudity as long as itās done well. And of course, what counts as ādone wellā can be pretty subjective. The way itās directed, written or acted can really affect how it comes across. So I think criticism often comes down to how something is handled, not just what it includes.
Personally, Iām still in my early twenties, so I havenāt been watching for as long as you have. I started watching Kdramas, Cdramas and other series around 2015, so Iām still figuring out what kind of shows really click with me. But, over the last few years, Iāve definitely gotten a better sense of what types of dramas appeal to me the most. As for Descendants of the Sun, it was one of my first Kdrama and I remember loving it back then. But after watching more shows and expanding my horizons, if you were to ask me now, I donāt see it the same way anymore though there is some nostalgia itās just one of those things where you evolve as a viewer. Maybe, like you, Iāll reach a point where I can predict the quality of a show just from the trailer or synopsis. But Iām not quite there yet.
Now I see how the voters on this app aren't true to the dramas. This just came out today, and already given an…
Itās no secret that a lot of users rate ongoing dramas and constantly adjust their scores after each episode. And of course there are also the so-called fans who give high ratings just because they love the actors or the romance, which can get a bit frustrating and definitely ādilutesā the authenticity of the score. Personally, I only rate a drama after Iāve finished watching it, but we canāt really expect everyone to follow a similar approach. Still, no need to worry too much, since once a drama finishes airing thatās usually when the real score starts to take shape. At least in my experience, even shows with inflated ratings tend to stabilize a while after theyāve ended. So for now, Iād say this current rating just means episode 1 showed promise and I doubt every voter is just a stan, right? Just my two cents. ^^
This trope is also pretty common in Korean manhwa/novels in the last couple of years, at least that I've read!…
Yes! So far there have been only a few manhwa adaptations in recent years and especially isekai ones! I hope this becomes a trend and we will get more from now on! But ofc with them done properly!
Most peopleās brains can easily grasp that on a 1-10 scale, a 7.8 is generally considered a decent score. I…
I understand you especially as someone who's been around since 2012 with a few more years of watching up your back, but I think your view on ratings might oversimplify how different people approach scoring. "For me: 1ā3 is crap, 4ā5 is below average or bad, 6ā8 is average, and 9ā10 is great." Exactly, for you. Thatās what makes it subjective. If everyone started comparing a dramaās final rating with their own personal scale, I think most of us would end up feeling disappointed in one way or another. What you see as a 6 might be someone elseās 8. (without necessarily being because of fandom bias but just based on plot preference, cinematography etc. )
"Most people find 8/10 a low score, because they give 9/10 for most things they watch ā that's why on VIKI you can't find anything below 9.0." Honestly, itās hard to speak on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of people using these platforms. Personally, I rarely rate anything below an 8, but thatās because I usually drop shows Iām not into early on. Iād rather not waste time on something I donāt enjoy and instead focus on dramas that keep me engaged and since I don't finish them, I don't deem it right to rate them. So sure some people rate generously because theyāre fans of a genre or actor( I agree that this phenomenon occurs here), others use a tighter scale and many (like me) donāt even finish shows theyāre not enjoying and focus mostly on rating stuff they do like.
"People care too much about ratings." Totally agree with this part. But it also ties into psychology if you ask me, cause even if someone tries not to let scores or comments affect them (which I honestly try to do myself), it can still influence your perception. When you see average shows sitting at 8.5+ it makes you question why a genuinely decent series is rated lower. That alone can be discouraging for some.
I also get the frustration with how shows that take more grounded, realistic approaches or even just contain nudity or heavier themes often get lower ratings. But again, that says more about audience expectations and comfort zones than it does about objective quality. Ratings reflect popularity and perception, not always depth or merit. Sadly that's just the way it is. In the end, I think you're right about one thing: you canāt put full trust in scores. Theyāre a tool, not a rule. Just like you, I base my decisions more depending on trailers or synopsis. But I also try to understand that the rating system isn't entirely useless, theyāre just not absolute or perfect. They reflect trends, preferences and emotions, not universal truth.
I like the cdrama vibe I get from this, FL transmigrating into a novel, a classic, excited to watch this
This trope is also pretty common in Korean manhwa/novels in the last couple of years, at least that I've read! I am into both and yes Isekai has been dominating for a while now! I mean it's a very "appealing" concept that can help one let loose and take a break from reality...
Excited for this one! But since it has just started airing, I guess I will have to marinate it a bit first! >< For those who have already watched ep1, how was it in terms of budget, acting and scriptwriting?
man i wish they kept it in a fantasy victorian era like the manhwa instead of joseon :(
I mean I get you but honestly it wouldāve looked out of place if they hadnāt made that change... Adjusting things like that is kind of inevitable in a live-action adaptation. Plus, Korea has its own history and traditions when it comes to royalty and nobility, so setting it that way probably feels more natural for local viewers and easier for the actors to get into it too. Recreating a full Victorian era setting in Korea wouldāve been a lot more challenging for the production team as well. So personally, I donāt really mind the change and Iād love to see even more of my favorite isekai manhwa get adapted! >< Maybe in an animated version, we could get to watch a closer adaptation in terms of the characters and era setting. It's just that Korean isn't all that active in that department but maybe countries like Japan and China could buy them and make anime/donghua of some well known Isekai^^
I'm never gonna understand how some Kdrama fans' brain works. Imagine saying 7.8 rating is low. Like, you failed…
Most peopleās brains can easily grasp that on a 1-10 scale, a 7.8 is generally considered a decent score. I get what you're trying to say here, however this is a score on MDL and it's undeniable that this is considered low for MDL standards... As someone whoās been immersed in Dramaland and MDL for a while now, I can tell you for MDL a score above 8 is considered "good" and anything above 9 is seen as "excellent." Of course, in recent years, due to actor fandoms (was news to me when I first found out lol) and bot acc activity that system has become a bit skewed, with some dramas getting inflated ratings while others not getting the score they deserve. So yeah MDL ratings are most often not subjective and they have their own scoring system.
Still, my personal rule and advice to everyone is: never judge a drama by its score/comments alone and actually give it a try by watching 1-2 eps if you find the synopsis interesting! That's the best way to know if a show is for you or not!
After cdramas like TPOB and LOZ this is definitely the type of cdrama I was looking for~ Something sweet, entertaining and less complicated to unwind! So far, I am thoroughly enjoying this! ^^
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Because the scene of him talking to the King and later the Queen shows how clearly hostile they both are towards him and keeping him under their watch as if he is a threat to them!
Take Cdrama for example, the emperor's sons, brothers and nephews were all called princes (wang) but their actual rank and importance were distinguished by the type of "prince" title they held, often signified by different characters.
After some research, I found that in the novel ver. the Duke did ask Ripley for consent. And while she was still drunk the author made it clear on Instagram (someone translated it and shared about it) that she was still in a solid enough state of mind to reject him if she wanted to. And considering she remembers it as a fond memory later on in the story, she must have liked it? And based on Ripley's monologues, she does indeed seem to like him. And she only strongly rejects him after realizing he is the ML, because she thinks he is making a mistake by marrying her since she's not the FL and his rightful match. Plus, she doesn't want to face the troubles of a FL.
While in the manhwa ver. the artist cut a few scenes and dialogues, which made their one-night stand with her under the influence seem worse compared to how it was explained in the novel.
Personally, in my head I keep the novel as the canon plot for that particular scene since it was better presented and explained there! As for the drama they kept it vague like the manhwa but they might show and talk about it more in the upcoming eps!
I wrote all this because many users, even before you, seem to be curious about it! ^^
To anyone starting this show, if you're not fully sold after the 1st episode like me, give it a bit more time. Trust me, it gets so much better. By Ep3 (which I just finished) I became fully invested, my heart pumping up and everything! I'm so ready for this roller coaster of emotions! May our champions rise to the top, trampling on every sleazy scammer's head along the way! š
As for the romance it feels more like a subplot so far, it feels like comic relief to balance the heavier themes, which I am actually glad for. Normally, I prefer these types of shows without any romance but Iām okay with it here as long as it stays in the background and progresses naturally. One thing I cannot stand though, is messy love triangles. Please, writers, I beg you keep it simple and don't turn this into a soap opera just a solid gripping storyline will do! Plus I would love it more to see all five of our cast become close with a wholesome relationship with each other on this journey!
First impressions: Ep1 felt a bit lukewarm for me. With so much of the runtime spent on introduction, it started to drag a little and the drinking party scene felt unnecessarily long. BUT Iām really glad I stuck with it, because Episode 2 was much better!
The opening of today's ep had me laughing right away and the chemistry between the leads? Sparks are definitely flying already! Watching our girl constantly freaking out was both hilarious and entertaining and the ML has this mischievous charm thatās really growing on me.
I choose not to rate shows I havenāt finished because I donāt believe itās fair to judge something without experiencing it in its entirety. The ending and eps I didn't watch can significantly affect how a story lands and without watching it, I can't give an informed or accurate rating imo. As for why I drop shows even when Iām halfway through, itās simply a matter of time. If Iām no longer enjoying something, Iād rather move on than force myself to finish it just so I can give it a low score. On some rare occasions,that I do stick to the end for whatever reason, I do give my 7 or 6 but lately as the years go I find it a waste of time to watch something I don't enjoy anymore especially when there are so many kdrama/cdrama etc. coming out constantly.
"Okay, but you can see the 18+ rating, if someone don't like nudity or adult stuff like killing etc, they don't have to watch it, just to rate it lower later and call it p*rn."
Hmm I actually partly agree with you here, there are definitely users who skip over tags or content warnings and then complain about things they shouldāve expected. But I donāt think thatās the whole story though. Sometimes, itās not the presence of adult content itself that leads to a lower rating but rather how that content is presented to viewers. Personally, I donāt have a problem with R-rated material be it violence or nudity as long as itās done well. And of course, what counts as ādone wellā can be pretty subjective. The way itās directed, written or acted can really affect how it comes across. So I think criticism often comes down to how something is handled, not just what it includes.
Personally, Iām still in my early twenties, so I havenāt been watching for as long as you have. I started watching Kdramas, Cdramas and other series around 2015, so Iām still figuring out what kind of shows really click with me. But, over the last few years, Iāve definitely gotten a better sense of what types of dramas appeal to me the most.
As for Descendants of the Sun, it was one of my first Kdrama and I remember loving it back then. But after watching more shows and expanding my horizons, if you were to ask me now, I donāt see it the same way anymore though there is some nostalgia itās just one of those things where you evolve as a viewer. Maybe, like you, Iāll reach a point where I can predict the quality of a show just from the trailer or synopsis. But Iām not quite there yet.
Personally, I only rate a drama after Iāve finished watching it, but we canāt really expect everyone to follow a similar approach. Still, no need to worry too much, since once a drama finishes airing thatās usually when the real score starts to take shape. At least in my experience, even shows with inflated ratings tend to stabilize a while after theyāve ended.
So for now, Iād say this current rating just means episode 1 showed promise and I doubt every voter is just a stan, right? Just my two cents. ^^
"For me: 1ā3 is crap, 4ā5 is below average or bad, 6ā8 is average, and 9ā10 is great."
Exactly, for you. Thatās what makes it subjective. If everyone started comparing a dramaās final rating with their own personal scale, I think most of us would end up feeling disappointed in one way or another. What you see as a 6 might be someone elseās 8. (without necessarily being because of fandom bias but just based on plot preference, cinematography etc. )
"Most people find 8/10 a low score, because they give 9/10 for most things they watch ā that's why on VIKI you can't find anything below 9.0."
Honestly, itās hard to speak on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of people using these platforms. Personally, I rarely rate anything below an 8, but thatās because I usually drop shows Iām not into early on. Iād rather not waste time on something I donāt enjoy and instead focus on dramas that keep me engaged and since I don't finish them, I don't deem it right to rate them. So sure some people rate generously because theyāre fans of a genre or actor( I agree that this phenomenon occurs here), others use a tighter scale and many (like me) donāt even finish shows theyāre not enjoying and focus mostly on rating stuff they do like.
"People care too much about ratings."
Totally agree with this part. But it also ties into psychology if you ask me, cause even if someone tries not to let scores or comments affect them (which I honestly try to do myself), it can still influence your perception. When you see average shows sitting at 8.5+ it makes you question why a genuinely decent series is rated lower. That alone can be discouraging for some.
I also get the frustration with how shows that take more grounded, realistic approaches or even just contain nudity or heavier themes often get lower ratings. But again, that says more about audience expectations and comfort zones than it does about objective quality. Ratings reflect popularity and perception, not always depth or merit. Sadly that's just the way it is.
In the end, I think you're right about one thing: you canāt put full trust in scores. Theyāre a tool, not a rule. Just like you, I base my decisions more depending on trailers or synopsis. But I also try to understand that the rating system isn't entirely useless, theyāre just not absolute or perfect. They reflect trends, preferences and emotions, not universal truth.
For those who have already watched ep1, how was it in terms of budget, acting and scriptwriting?
Maybe in an animated version, we could get to watch a closer adaptation in terms of the characters and era setting. It's just that Korean isn't all that active in that department but maybe countries like Japan and China could buy them and make anime/donghua of some well known Isekai^^
Still, my personal rule and advice to everyone is: never judge a drama by its score/comments alone and actually give it a try by watching 1-2 eps if you find the synopsis interesting! That's the best way to know if a show is for you or not!
Something sweet, entertaining and less complicated to unwind! So far, I am thoroughly enjoying this! ^^