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A friend once told me that men marry women thinking they will never change, and women marry men thinking they can change them. This drama plays into the trope that with the love of a good woman, a bad boy can change and become a good guy. There is something deeply romantic and yet at the same time deluded about this trope but, truthfully, I see more women buy into this irl than any other trope of k-drama. I mean I've never met anyone in a love triangle. Anyway, I am not saying people can't change for the better, but I wouldn't want to count on it. BOF is a mess but I honestly never took it that seriously.

His role in BOF was one of the most wanted roles in k-drama. It made his career as well as the career of almost everyone associated with it due to its popularity. The story has now been re-made so many times between J-drama, K-drama and T-drama. It just is what it is.

With regard to Heirs, I think he was offered an obscene amount of money.

She apparently was a long-time girlfriend. While I'm assuming it was an ooops baby, it sounds like they were in a committed relationship of quite a few years. I actually would love to see him stay in the group post military and actually have a k-pop guy in an active group be married with a child.

I'll put $ on The King

I actually really like the drama and would recommend it for people that like slice-of-life shows. Great ensemble cast.

With regard to the writing, I've thought about it and my number one issue is I still am not sure what HW went through in the house growing up. I understand ES because we spent time learning about the neglect and abandonment and how that colors how he is as an adult. I read comments that a lot of people couldn't buy this character but I actually had no issues.

I get that the death of her dad was a turning point in her life. However, other than some flashbacks where she is seen deliriously happy, I know nothing. So when she says to her aunt, "I didn't like him either, " I thought, oh she did know her mom was getting abused. However, later we learn or are lead to believe that perhaps she had no clue. As a viewer of the show who never read the book, I feel like I should know more and there was just a lot of beating around the bush without saying much going on. Maybe it was lost in translation but at drama end, I have no idea how growing up in an abusive home colored HW's life because I still am not 100% sure she knew. I am totally willing to buy she didn't even though that is suspending reality. I just think that's as huge an issue in her life as ES abandonment was in his. The writer had something to say about domestic violence because those scenes were visceral. The aunt's friend still getting hit while dying of cancer is another indication. I hate to think this issue was used as a vehicle just for HW to be mad at her aunt and go back to Seoul.

Having said all that, it always interests me the various views, and I'm kind of bummed people are hating on HW because I just think a bit clearer writing could have alleviated that.

When she chased after him and he asked so how long you staying and she smiled and it turned lovey, dovey, I took it as happily ever after. If it is different in the book, people should keep it to themselves. However, the fact people are having questions about this is a problem. People shouldn't have to assume/guess.

Episode 15 was bad writing. I didn't have issues with 16 so much or how it ended. I took it as a happy ending. I think the writer had HW acting immature but, again, I think it was just lazy writing because they needed a reason for her to go back to Seoul. I mean her mom did spend 7 years in jail for a crime she didn't do and never does HW even consider that...just, hey, no one told me. Really!? And I never totally understood if she knew it was self defense. Again, this is a writing issue.

I think it is more than being an introvert. It is that he is emotionally beaten down by life and circumstances and abandonment issues. Hence how many years before he sews the I love you , mom on the scarf? I just don't think this is a sparky, swoony kind of romance so I guess I didn't have any issues with it. The other actor you noted is great but reminds me of the regular type of kdrama lead we see all the time. I love those dramas as well and hope to see him in one soon.

My understanding at the end is she decides to stay and not just for a week. He opened up enough to ask how long and the big smile she gave shows she isn't going anywhere. If someone has read the book and tells me differently, fine but otherwise that's the only thing that makes sense given how happy theyy both were at the end.

My understanding at the end is she decides to stay and not just for a week. He opened up enough to ask how long and the big smile she gave shows she isn't going anywhere. If someone has read the book and tells me differently, fine but otherwise that's the only thing that makes sense given how happy theyy both were at the end.

Oh please not a love triangle. It's the most overused trope in k-dramas. I actually liked what they did with the 2nd female lead here and how it all resolved. However, I do totally agree with you about episode 15 especially. I thought they made her act like a self absorbed teenage girl. It's just lazy writing. I mean not once was there any concern that her mom spent 7 years in jail for something she did not do. It was all, "why didn't anyone tell me". Really! I also thought the writers beat around the bush about the abuse and what she knew. Am I expected to believe they managed to hide the fact that mom was getting the crap beaten out of her all those years. It's too serious an issue to be used like this.

Having said that, I also loved most of the drama.

I am going by memory, but I think the next episodes focus on the romance but it isn't over the top intense romance. More a gentle romance. The 2nd male lead's crush on his co-worker is basically comedic in nature and we get more of that in the 2nd half of the drama. What most seemed charmed by is little sister going after her crush. I'm gonna be honest, if you aren't charmed by episode 9, I don't know how this is gonna work out for you.

I think she is a bit of an emotional coward. She wasn't willing to put herself out there. It's understandable as a teenage girl with a crush but not so much as a grown, independent woman. She could have made her play, been turned down and moved on. I also wonder if her interest in the guy is more about HW returning.

I took that as just a part of being newly in love or infatuated with someone. I was more concerned that she had no problem reading his private journal involving "Irene". That was private and she overstepped her bounds.

I had a family member with glaucoma, and almost my entire memory of him is of him timing his eye drops which he took twice a day. You don't mess around with going blind. I just don't buy that aspect of the story. Guilt over killing the guy even though it was self defense, okay sure, but not the drawn out misery of what she's suffered physically.

This is a slice-of-life drama with a huge dose of romance, but it is very low key. If you aren't hooked by episode 9, it might not be your cup of tea. Seo Kang Joon isn't a robot; he's quiet guy who doesn't expect much from life. I found him relatable as I grew up around quiet guys but it is not what is usually seen in k-drama. I'm caught up with the show, and he doesn't dramatically change though we understand him and where he's coming from as the drama goes on.

They have been so upfront and brutal about the reality of domestic abuse, but they are not doing the best job in showing what a child being raised in that situation deals with. It's a bit much to believe that she wasn't hiding in the closet at some point when mom was getting it so, yeah, the phrasing of "I didn't like him either" and "he was still my dad" was a bit much for me. Love the drama but this was a noticeable misstep imo. Also, it was flat out a case of self-defense as well so I think murder is a bit much for the aunt to take responsible for.

I think she is a character who felt a bit woe-is-me and it stopped her from really sincerely apologizing. I never hated her character but was more frustrated that as an adult it took her so long to realize it really was her fault. Also, she could have just joined the book club if she wanted to get closer to the guy. However, I think there are people like this in the world so she didn't bother me as much as she seemed more human than psycho like some 2nd female leads.

I think they did delay the shoot a while back because they skipped a weeks episodes but it was only a temporary delay. I read that Korea is able to do temperature checks on employees going to work or into stores and that's one way they were able to get a jump on things. This would not be legal to do in my neck of the woods.

Just remember the first few episodes just are really laying the foundation. I had no issues with them but others thought they were too slow. It just better and better if you like a more gentle type romance.