im confused and annoyed with china lolso its based on a BL manhua and yet they are gonna force heteronormativity…
Listen, writers have been sentenced to 10 years in prison as recently as the last 2 years for writing "homoerotic" material in China. Pornography is illegal, and although China "pretends" that being a member of LGBQT is not a crime, it uses "pornography" as a way around going after gay people, by referring to any romantic interactions by those of the same sex as "obscene behavior". Be grateful that there are still Chinese writers willing to provide strong BL themes, and an entertainment industry willing to craft bromances to get around the Chinese censors at all. [https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/418834-chinas-pornography-laws-are-a-backdoor-for-censorship]
Personally, this was finished filming back in 2016 and never aired. I don't ever think this one is seeing the light of day and will forever be shelved. It also doesn't help that Jin Mo had an affair with the lead actress during this drama and for about 6 months before moving on to date his current wife. I'm not sure he or she wants to be reminded. =/
It's a beauty standard that's been woven into Asian culture for centuries. Since nobles could spend less time…
Whereas in Europe and America, it's the opposite. After the industrial revolution, that it began, having a tan meant you had the leisure time to go to the beach and to lie out in the sun. When UV rays were found to cause cancer, in the USA, people opted to spend time and money lying on a tanning bed, to get the perfect tan without the detriment to the skin. lol.
The means of economic production, along side culture, supersedes everything.
Hyaku - fast/hurry -- iku - go -- yo - verbal exclamation to end a Japanese sentence. So, added up, he is essentially telling her, "Hurry & go!" It's romantic way for a guy to end his date, because it implies that if she doesn't leave him fast, he won't let her go.
Yep, Yep, Yep. Like I know a lot of other people are gonna say, you wrote what a LOT of us have started to feel since a few years ago. It first started when they broke up the episodes into two 30 minute sections, instead of one hour long episode. I wonder if that effected the way the writers pen their stuff. I also kept thinking that it was because some actors were off the market with military service that there just was a lack of talent that brings these dramas to life. But as they start returning and starring in dramas that lack the old flame, I'm definitely beginning to believe that Korean writers and producers have lost their umpfh. On top of that, NetFlix has delved into the fray with their South Korean original dramas that they are trying to put THEIR own spin on that's actually, tbh, pretty annoying. So, then I wonder if some of the writing changes are because the OGs feel they have to compete with this style....
...but whatever reason it is, I'm with you. Of late, I've spent a whole lot more time watching Chinese dramas than Korean dramas, and less and less am I anticipating to watch a K-Drama, and after already re-watching a lot of K-Dramas, I've started re-watching Chinese dramas to fill in the gaps as well. Sad but true. And this is not to say that Chinese dramas are all that great, they just offer more of the atmosphere I'm looking for in my escapism. The love affair maybe over soon if things don't change. =/
Maybe people think that GGMTV & OffGun had a bigger choice in how this story would play out. Just like SOTUS, there's only so much leeway you have with a LIVE ACTION drama based on a NOVEL without completely re-writing it, pissing off the fans of the original work, as well as the writer of the novel as well.
This drama was based on the novel Theory of Love...I'll give a link to the English translation of the novel in a spoiler below:
thats a lot of words, are you so mad that other people didn't like what you liked?
LOL. Yeah, so many words that you obviously didn't read it...and if you didn't read what they said, it would have been kinder to have just passed the comment up and not make some sarcastic remark to insult a person for something they didn't say, and making yourself look silly in the process.
This comment was directed at both sides, stating that if you like the drama you can say, if you don't like it you can say so...and how insulting it is to tell others they don't have a right to voice their opinions.
SO...no, @Betty20 is not "mad" that "other people didn't like it" but making a point, and valid one at that, and one I've often made at MDL, which is to say, I want to hear BOTH sides of the story, and their reasonings, so I can make better choices in how to spend my time watching dramas. Sometimes a reason a person gave to NOT like a drama maybe the very reason I want TO watch a drama...so YEAH, all viewpoints are welcome and do not deserve to get hate thrown at them simply because they disagree with your views. ....lol...
Next, at least give the consideration to take the time to READ it before commenting about it!
Don't quote me on this but I believe that in order to get parts in the Chinese drama and film industry, you have…
I do say..."Don't quote me.." so it's not necessarily 100% accurate, but I believe that Chinese censors are particular & with that, your agency will look to "legitimize" your career by showing you went to a Chinese university & a willingness to accept Marxist ideology. From my numerous entries of Chinese actors to MDL, looking at their profile's early work, this is something that has stood out to me.
Additionally, I'm referring to the subject of "CHILD" actors and how they have go through years of training to reach a certain level of recognition. Zhao Li Ying had already graduated, Langfang School of Electronic Information Engineering, a secondary vocational "education & development model school" whose motto is "Self-Cultivation", to become a flight attendant when she won the star search in 2006. For family reasons, she decided not to be a flight attendant & just be a company employee.
Her first 6 years she had to work hard & started out doing commercials and her first drama, Golden Marriage, which also aired in Japan, which gave her a wider audience recognition, was a family drama that was praised by the the Chinese censors at the Television Department of the State Administration of Radio, Film, & Television, for its plot on family ethics, and "profound significance on sociology", that's "giving value" to Chinese family culture. Being a part of this drama gave her the legitimization she would need, since it was highly valued and recognized by the official Communist governmental departments. But, again, she was an adult at the time who had already graduated from a Chinese university, and that's the point I was making.
I wish Chinese dramas cast close to accurate actors I mean I'm not asking for 16 year old to play 16 year olds…
Don't quote me on this but I believe that in order to get parts in the Chinese drama and film industry, you have to go through their universities, even if you are a Westerner.
Yes, you can model, and likely do bit parts for local stuff, or possibly internet platform content, but to do major productions on national televised stations, you have to be legitimized, like going to the Beijing Film Academy. Being that it's college, I think it's really hard for the industry to use child actors for more than bit parts with heavy, moronic, childish voice-over dubbing. With that in mind, they just have to have everyone suspend disbelief, and I'm sure the Chinese audience, over so many decades, have become used to this tactic, and have become willing participates in suspended disbelief for their dramas, and sometimes movies. ;)
I've watched until episode 5 and was thinking, "...I'll just watch each episode after as they get subbed..." BUT... I think I'm rethinking this. I'm not gonna torture myself. Even though it was sad, I was okay with where episode 5 had finished. Emotionally, if things don't go well for them after Akira turns 18, I'll be way too impatient to be comfortable sitting with watching sad episode after sad episode for the next couple weeks.
I've now decided that I won't watch any further episodes or trailers until the drama is complete. I think that from here on out, the only way I'm gonna be okay watching this drama is if I binge watch the remainder. See you guys a few weeks.
"Around" means just that, it's an estimate based on past experiences. The Japanese movie industry doesn't release the DVD for a movie until about 6 months after it aired in theaters. You will not get subtitles until a clean DVD version of the movie becomes available to the subbers. You have to give the subbers time to decide to pick it up and then doing the editing. There is no guarantee any Japanese subbers will pick it up either...so...
Did we watch the same movie ?It's not a tragic and depressing movie but on the contrary it's about hope, second…
Telling me you respect my opinion but then tell me I "got everything completely wrong" is quite disingenuous. Calm your anger over someone who watched the movie and disagreed with your perspective. If you want to review this and give a different perspective, by all means, I'm not going to dissuade you nor argue with you over it. Your perspective is just that, YOUR perspective.
Me watching this and finding her unlikable and the movie dreary is how I felt and I don't have to justify that to you or anyone else. I didn't tell anyone not to watch it, I just described how the movie made me feel and I stand by it, and my right to feel that way... Your feelings don't trump my feelings. My feelings are just as valid and important as yours even if you think yours are more valuable and you want to attack me over your right to have more valuable opinions to mine.
I suggest in the future, rather than challenging and attacking another person's views that you just provide your perspective, and let others do the same, and the people who want to see reviews or comments before watching read them all and decide for themselves. No one is right or wrong. It's just one person's perspective versus another's. Both are valid.... I hope in the future you can appreciate that fact.
I am straight up gonna say this because most of the comments are focused solely on Korean drama content but for me, DramaFever was NOT my go-to app for these dramas... What they were my go-to for was all the great Chinese Dramas!!! DO PEOPLE REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS TO GET CHINESE DRAMAS THAT ARE FULLY SUBBED???
Let's take Secrets of Three Kingdoms, which I was watching on DramaFever at the time they shut it down. I was on episode 34 of 54. Now, I can hop over to Viki and, YES, it has the channel for this drama. It ONLY has 40 episodes uploaded AND of those 40 ONLY 24 episodes are fully subbed. THIS has always been my problem with Viki, even if you pay for a subscription. Unlike DramaFever, the translators are ALL volunteers. Nothing wrong with volunteers, BUT they are completely unreliable. What were people willing to pay DF for??? To INSURE that they'd get a COMPLETELY SUBBED DRAMA. There is nothing more heartbreaking to a Chinese drama lover than to have subbers start a project only to get disinterested and drop it midway through and leave you hanging. YEAH, I'VE HEARD THE BITCHING ABOUT, "THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS WITH THEIR OWN LIVES TO LIVE..." FINE, nobody is denying them that, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED DF !!! To pay the translators a salary and get the CONTENT we want!!!
I would NEVER start a drama on Viki without FIRST knowing that they completed all the subbing. I've been burned one too many times.. and relying on the Chinese translators to get licensing and complete the subbing of dramas over at Viki is not something I would ever do. SO.... Now, if you want a fully completed, 60-70 episode Chinese historical or wuxia drama that's subbed, we now have even LESS places to go to get them... forget Korean dramas... someone is always gonna complete them and sub them..that's the bread and butter of Asian dramaland... but Thai, or Chinese is a WHOLE other issue... and this is the part where losing DF is such a heart wrenching thing to me!
You might face legal problems if you host shows that are not licensed. Kissasian was fines 1 million dollars because…
Man, all the negative feedback saying, "...you cannot do this..." "..you cannot do that..." WTH? How did Viki and DF start in the first place???? Do these people even KNOW how it started??? It was started by two Korean businessmen who were able to go out and get $12 million in investment income and acquired licensing. These guys even won Business of the Year awards in 2010 by the Korean Ministry of Culture. They weren't bought out until 2014!!
Do people realize that the Korean government is promoting its culture to the world at all??? Why would they shun innovative individuals promoting Asian only content in favor of big American corporations who are creating their own platforms with a small section for Asian dramas that aren't just Korean??? Are you kidding me??
Again, what about Viki??? Viki was started up by 2 Koreans and an Egyptian-American!! How did they get their start??? The same way DF did, they pitched their company and got funding from a venture capitalist coompany... they also weren't bought out until 2014!!
So, no, it's not impossible... It will take upwards of several million dollars to launch after the actual product has been produced and pitched to folks willing to invest in it.. but it's NOT impossible. It will take connection, effort, and dedication, but it's NOT impossible.
what is really going to piss me off is when they move the content to another streaming site with a butt load of…
This is EXACTLY why they did it.. to justify charging more as well as trying to force feed us content we canceled our cable tv plans over. They're not innovative at all. They're still trying to do the same old crap and buying up the competition to succeed.
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[https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/418834-chinas-pornography-laws-are-a-backdoor-for-censorship]
The means of economic production, along side culture, supersedes everything.
...but whatever reason it is, I'm with you. Of late, I've spent a whole lot more time watching Chinese dramas than Korean dramas, and less and less am I anticipating to watch a K-Drama, and after already re-watching a lot of K-Dramas, I've started re-watching Chinese dramas to fill in the gaps as well. Sad but true. And this is not to say that Chinese dramas are all that great, they just offer more of the atmosphere I'm looking for in my escapism. The love affair maybe over soon if things don't change. =/
This drama was based on the novel Theory of Love...I'll give a link to the English translation of the novel in a spoiler below:
This comment was directed at both sides, stating that if you like the drama you can say, if you don't like it you can say so...and how insulting it is to tell others they don't have a right to voice their opinions.
SO...no, @Betty20 is not "mad" that "other people didn't like it" but making a point, and valid one at that, and one I've often made at MDL, which is to say, I want to hear BOTH sides of the story, and their reasonings, so I can make better choices in how to spend my time watching dramas. Sometimes a reason a person gave to NOT like a drama maybe the very reason I want TO watch a drama...so YEAH, all viewpoints are welcome and do not deserve to get hate thrown at them simply because they disagree with your views. ....lol...
Next, at least give the consideration to take the time to READ it before commenting about it!
Additionally, I'm referring to the subject of "CHILD" actors and how they have go through years of training to reach a certain level of recognition. Zhao Li Ying had already graduated, Langfang School of Electronic Information Engineering, a secondary vocational "education & development model school" whose motto is "Self-Cultivation", to become a flight attendant when she won the star search in 2006. For family reasons, she decided not to be a flight attendant & just be a company employee.
Her first 6 years she had to work hard & started out doing commercials and her first drama, Golden Marriage, which also aired in Japan, which gave her a wider audience recognition, was a family drama that was praised by the the Chinese censors at the Television Department of the State Administration of Radio, Film, & Television, for its plot on family ethics, and "profound significance on sociology", that's "giving value" to Chinese family culture. Being a part of this drama gave her the legitimization she would need, since it was highly valued and recognized by the official Communist governmental departments. But, again, she was an adult at the time who had already graduated from a Chinese university, and that's the point I was making.
Yes, you can model, and likely do bit parts for local stuff, or possibly internet platform content, but to do major productions on national televised stations, you have to be legitimized, like going to the Beijing Film Academy. Being that it's college, I think it's really hard for the industry to use child actors for more than bit parts with heavy, moronic, childish voice-over dubbing. With that in mind, they just have to have everyone suspend disbelief, and I'm sure the Chinese audience, over so many decades, have become used to this tactic, and have become willing participates in suspended disbelief for their dramas, and sometimes movies. ;)
I've now decided that I won't watch any further episodes or trailers until the drama is complete. I think that from here on out, the only way I'm gonna be okay watching this drama is if I binge watch the remainder. See you guys a few weeks.
FYI:
Release Date November 03, 2018
Me watching this and finding her unlikable and the movie dreary is how I felt and I don't have to justify that to you or anyone else. I didn't tell anyone not to watch it, I just described how the movie made me feel and I stand by it, and my right to feel that way... Your feelings don't trump my feelings. My feelings are just as valid and important as yours even if you think yours are more valuable and you want to attack me over your right to have more valuable opinions to mine.
I suggest in the future, rather than challenging and attacking another person's views that you just provide your perspective, and let others do the same, and the people who want to see reviews or comments before watching read them all and decide for themselves. No one is right or wrong. It's just one person's perspective versus another's. Both are valid.... I hope in the future you can appreciate that fact.
Let's take Secrets of Three Kingdoms, which I was watching on DramaFever at the time they shut it down. I was on episode 34 of 54. Now, I can hop over to Viki and, YES, it has the channel for this drama. It ONLY has 40 episodes uploaded AND of those 40 ONLY 24 episodes are fully subbed. THIS has always been my problem with Viki, even if you pay for a subscription. Unlike DramaFever, the translators are ALL volunteers. Nothing wrong with volunteers, BUT they are completely unreliable. What were people willing to pay DF for??? To INSURE that they'd get a COMPLETELY SUBBED DRAMA. There is nothing more heartbreaking to a Chinese drama lover than to have subbers start a project only to get disinterested and drop it midway through and leave you hanging. YEAH, I'VE HEARD THE BITCHING ABOUT, "THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS WITH THEIR OWN LIVES TO LIVE..." FINE, nobody is denying them that, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED DF !!! To pay the translators a salary and get the CONTENT we want!!!
I would NEVER start a drama on Viki without FIRST knowing that they completed all the subbing. I've been burned one too many times.. and relying on the Chinese translators to get licensing and complete the subbing of dramas over at Viki is not something I would ever do. SO.... Now, if you want a fully completed, 60-70 episode Chinese historical or wuxia drama that's subbed, we now have even LESS places to go to get them... forget Korean dramas... someone is always gonna complete them and sub them..that's the bread and butter of Asian dramaland... but Thai, or Chinese is a WHOLE other issue... and this is the part where losing DF is such a heart wrenching thing to me!
Do people realize that the Korean government is promoting its culture to the world at all??? Why would they shun innovative individuals promoting Asian only content in favor of big American corporations who are creating their own platforms with a small section for Asian dramas that aren't just Korean??? Are you kidding me??
Again, what about Viki??? Viki was started up by 2 Koreans and an Egyptian-American!! How did they get their start??? The same way DF did, they pitched their company and got funding from a venture capitalist coompany... they also weren't bought out until 2014!!
So, no, it's not impossible... It will take upwards of several million dollars to launch after the actual product has been produced and pitched to folks willing to invest in it.. but it's NOT impossible. It will take connection, effort, and dedication, but it's NOT impossible.