Holy Moly, now what? I was watching Secrets of Three Kingdoms and Are You Human Too? on their site not but 4 hours ago, just before I took off to my Korean class. The quality of the shows are so much better than the free streaming sites,
My thinking is that it has become way too expensive for them since they have paid translators, like NetFlix, unlike Viki and the free streaming sites, who get their subs from random volunteers or steal them. Even with subscriptions, it was probably hard to keep up and maintain subscribers.
Freaking sad is all I can say. At this rate, we're gonna lose a lot of ability to get dramas subbed and revert back to the way it was in the early 2000s..which wasn't fun at all searching around for completed subs.
3,029?? LOL. [#29] It's cool to actually see these stats. For me, those edits were a significant labor of love, often times not realizing I spent a whole day, not just inputting stuff, but researching it to do my best to ensure I was being as accurate as possible. I wasn't ever looking for recognition or a pat on the back. It's just cool to see the actual number totals, because, boy, there were many times I said to myself, "...I only meant to do this for a couple hours..." hahaha...
Sometimes, when you're watching a drama with a lot of characters, and a random actor/actress does a good job, but you cannot necessarily recall them and their data, and you go to MDL for reference, only to find it hasn't been updated, well, you just need to take it upon yourself to get it done, instead of expecting others to always volunteer their time. Thank you guys for the acknowledgement. You're awesome as always.
I was one who was gonna watch it but then saw the PressCon and thought "..this OTP has problems.." it makes you think that the chemistry was sure to be off. Then I saw some people who started watching it despite that fact who said that BOTH of them were really good in their roles and that the show was better than average. Made me think I'll pick it up after it is completed and subbed.
Too bad they changed the original storyline in which the two guys are in love...(even the author was pissed about…
Well, the author needs to go to Tienanmen Square and stand up for their product and the government and stop blaming the producers, scriptwriters, editors, and directors for removing gay content themes from their products. Oops... wait.... Like, who really is going to stand up to the Chinese Communist government and dictate to them what the public wants or doesn't want to watch? When did the general public last ever have a voice to make these kinds of changes on their own? The Chinese Censorship Board run by the Communist government of China dictates to its citizens what they can and cannot see on their platforms, PERIOD. You don't get a say. Of course, you can complain ALL you want, but it isn't going to change the fact that, if the product has to go through the Censorship Board, and it includes a gay theme, it won't ever see the light of day under the current rules:
For me the thing that is impressive are these real EPIC upcoming Chinese dramas are being supported and produced by Tencent Penguin Pictures. This is the subsidiary production company that is part of Tencent Pictures' 3 independent production houses, that is focused on "seizing better control of internally-produced dramas, with its roles ranging from IP selection to distribution" rather than feature films. They've been investing in the production of animes and moving towards online platform and studio dramas.
Let's not forget that under the Tencent name includes such things as Riot Games that runs the online MOBA game, League of Legends. Why do I bring that up? Because only a couple of months ago Riot Games won a "SPORTS" emmy for its online production on the Twitch platform for its opening ceremony broadcast of the LoL World Championship Finals held in an arena in China were a halography giant life sized dragon entered into the middle of the arena, then flew out. They were up against some of the best in the industry, including the 2017 NBA Finals, ESPN's College Basketball, & TNT's NBA All-Star Weekend. It was the FIRST time a platform like Twitch and a company like Riot Games had won such an award. What I'm saying is that Tencent wants to be big in the entertainment industry worldwide and in many genres and it's willing to INVEST and PRODUCE the quality things that people are looking to see.
Around this same time last year, Tencent Penguin Pictures had made its announcement of some of the things that were in their pipeline of productions they were looking to distribute and release. This list includes: The Message [remake]; The King's Avatar [Yang Yang lead role]; all the Candle of the Tomb series; See You Again; Only Side By Side With You; The Wolf; Secrets of Three Kingdoms. They've indicated that they're looking to also do Novoland Castle in the Sky 2 & Medical Examiner Dr. Qin 3. More excitement was when they announced they were doing the sequel to Eternal Love, Three Lives, Three Worlds, The Pillow Book.
Then in September the talked about adding Joy of Life and suggesting continuing Luhan's role with New Fighter of the Destiny. Additional titles are: The Golden Eyes, a new version of Prince of Tennis starring pro-tennis player, Li Na, and her husband, Ass9ssins, a remake of The New Story of a Noble Fmaily, a sequel to Chinese Style Relationship, Guardian of Light, The Tibet Code that will also get a movie that will be a Chinese-American co-production, as well as Fights Break Sphere. They also produced the movie with Crystal Liu and FSF, Hanson and the Beast.
Why am I talking about all these dramas on here? Because some of these have already been released and you can get a dang good idea of the difference between an EPIC Chinese drama produced by others versus the ones Tencent is involved with, and the difference paints a picture. If I'm looking at what to watch for a Chinese production, I'm dang well gonna see if Tencent has a hand in it, because chances are, that drama or movie will be better than average with topnotch industry professionals participating and giving it the quality these stories deserve. With every new drama this company has released in the past two years, they are slowly winning me over to their side. Legend of Fu Yao is no different. The reason I'm hopeful that this will be considered an epic Chinese drama IS the fact that Tencent Penguin Pictures was involved in producing it.
Was this dubbed? Because whoever did the male lead's role has such a nice singing voice
The male lead, as well as Lin Sen's character both actually got their start in entertainment via music/singing. The male lead [Fan Shi Qi] has actually starred in the Chinese version of The Voice and won a few variety show singing competitions. He has a record deal as well. He just recently started to transition into acting so that is actually his real voice. You can see some of his LIVE performances on YouTube.
His diagnosis is Osteochondritis dissecans (OCD or OD), according to wiki :/ It's similar but not the same, it…
VERY similar: "...In OCD, the avascular fragment separates from a normal, vascular bony bed beneath a sclerotic rim." "In AVN, the avascular osteochondral surface breaks into multiple fragments and separates from an avascular bed."
OCD usually occurs in the knee and AVN in the hip it seems... additionally, OCD can be curable in adolescence but permanent once it's discovered in adulthood. AVN is genetic not traumatic like OCD, thus, it's not curable at all. Surgery etc is only done to heal the fractures and help with pain reduction.
Very sad case for both of them, frankly. They'll both be suffering through pain for the remainder of their lives. **sigh**
WHOA! Wait. Isn't this kind of what Seo In Guk got diagnosed with that got him released from the military after 5 days when he fractured his ankle? [...Osteochondritis dissecans, also know as OCD, is caused by blood deprivation in the subchondral bone. This loss of blood flow causes the subchondral bone to die in a process called avascular necrosis...] Didn't the netizens give In Guk ssi crap for using this as an "excuse" to get out of service? So, does this mean that he is ALSO in this kind of pain?
OH IT WILL AIR. Just right after are great grandkids are at our funerals. Sure it will
Well, instead of saying "..in spring..", KBS2 at least has stated the month of June, 2018. Hopefully, THIS TIME, it will actually happen. Anything that is said to be aired in China requires the fans to have a patient heart. If you like C-Dramas, you already understand this aspect.
Lee Joon Hyuk is also acting in a new tvN drama called "A Poem a Day" & he was interviewed to say that "A Poem a Day" will now air at the same times as "The Miracle We Met", which airs after "Radio Romance" on KBS2, before "Are You Human Too? By his indications it will air. The statements seem to say around June, 2018, but I'm not holding my breath. It WILL air at some point, I'm sure. KBS spent way to much money to scrap it completely. For what I've read, this was pre-produced to air simultaneously in China, much like DoTS, and they are waiting for release approval on this from the Chinese censors. I'm afraid that the censor board has been on a happy cancel trip lately, going after "counterculture", "hiphop", & "western influence" like drunken sailors. They're not allowing anymore "superstitious" dramas including "timeslip" and so God knows what their problem is with a "robot" but they obviously have found one... Who knows how long they'll take to stamp their approval to release it for an air date. In the meantime, KBS is holding off, most likely, because they see the enthusiasm for it and want to get the most play for all the investment they put into it. If they have to wait and air other dramas, they seem more than happen to do it.
I actually agree with your #1 except for the example. When this drama came out this was one of the biggest heavy criticisms but I often argued that you have had to have read the book to understand that the person was supposed to act that way because they were inexperienced. That scene is written in the book exactly that way. She's always been shy etc and for her to not be embarrassed and confused would have gone against the character as it was written.
So, again, in general, I truly dislike a costar who doesn't respond back, when they're supposed to be into it based on the story, especially with the hands down at the side. Who does that? Isn't it naturally to at least hold on to the other person's arm or side to keep you balance? lol. I just don't think the drama chosen was the right one. If you want to know how that scene was written, here is the link to the English translation:
After reading some of the more recent comments I wanted to note something for anyone coming here trying to decide whether to watch this or not. If you're concerned with all the negative comments about the female lead, don't be. The only way you need to be prepared for this show is in two ways: 1. you should have at least a glossary understanding of the professional relationship between Lee Jong Hyun & Gong Seung Yeon and that neither of the characters they are portraying in anyway resembles them as a "professional" couple or individually, and 2. you have watched at least one other show that Gong Seung Yeon has been in to understand her acting capabilities and general style.
This show is a parody of Kdrama tropes, fully tongue and cheek, with the characters overacting their trope roles on purpose. Without real confirmation, but based on WGM fans who loved Gong Seung Yeon & Lee Jong Hyun as the "Bee Couple" [meaning so sweet they are making honey like bees], it is likely the plot was created as "fan service" since their time together on the show was cut rather short for no really clear reason. Many of the things that happen can be referenced back to something that took place during their time on WGM variety show. This isn't meant to be a serious drama. It's 100% slapstick and over exaggerated to give these two some major experience in a lead role. It's also the first time either of them had a true kiss on camera. Most likely, because they've spent so much time together as a "couple" on camera, it would naturally be easier for them to give this part a go and do well doing it together. It was a great forum for a practice run in the "romance genre" of acting for both of them, and it's no coincidence that after the release of this on Netflix and the reception/ratings it got on that platform, that both Lee Jong Hyun & Gong Seung Yeon were picked up by OCN and KBS2 to star as leads in a romance drama, which are both going to be airing in March, 2018.
Best Global Management Award: Cube EntertainmentI'm sorry, but why did Cube win best management.
I fully agree. They did so many things wrong in 2017, the BEAST situation being on the top. CLC wasn't nominated for anything, Pentagon got newcomer awards, & BtoB were nominated but only won in online minor award ceremonies, no major event. Triple H's music peaked high on the charts but no awards. The only thing their actors have done notably last year was their newcomer to get on Produce 101, and a couple webtoons. He won the award for modeling, but that's about it. Cube lost more people than they got last year, and won hardly anything or did hardly anything of note.
Lastly, Universal music sold all of its stock shares in Cube Entertainment at the beginning of the year, and Cube revert to Loen for distribution. That's a lost for their global market, not a gain.
It's times like these you are reminded that South Korea still lives under the veil of a strong nepotistic cultural. Not only giving Cube this award, but Ruler so much recognition over other more popular dramas, this is the only thing that truly makes any sense. If you've paid your dues and networked, and know the big names that hand out the awards, you'll trump quality and get the paycheck every time. Seems that's how Korea works a majority of the time.
My thinking is that it has become way too expensive for them since they have paid translators, like NetFlix, unlike Viki and the free streaming sites, who get their subs from random volunteers or steal them. Even with subscriptions, it was probably hard to keep up and maintain subscribers.
Freaking sad is all I can say. At this rate, we're gonna lose a lot of ability to get dramas subbed and revert back to the way it was in the early 2000s..which wasn't fun at all searching around for completed subs.
Sometimes, when you're watching a drama with a lot of characters, and a random actor/actress does a good job, but you cannot necessarily recall them and their data, and you go to MDL for reference, only to find it hasn't been updated, well, you just need to take it upon yourself to get it done, instead of expecting others to always volunteer their time. Thank you guys for the acknowledgement. You're awesome as always.
...thanks for pointing this one out.
Congratulations.
http://fortune.com/2017/06/30/china-homosexuality-internet-weibo-censorship/
http://news.trust.org/item/20180414030143-8oda9/
Let's not forget that under the Tencent name includes such things as Riot Games that runs the online MOBA game, League of Legends. Why do I bring that up? Because only a couple of months ago Riot Games won a "SPORTS" emmy for its online production on the Twitch platform for its opening ceremony broadcast of the LoL World Championship Finals held in an arena in China were a halography giant life sized dragon entered into the middle of the arena, then flew out. They were up against some of the best in the industry, including the 2017 NBA Finals, ESPN's College Basketball, & TNT's NBA All-Star Weekend. It was the FIRST time a platform like Twitch and a company like Riot Games had won such an award. What I'm saying is that Tencent wants to be big in the entertainment industry worldwide and in many genres and it's willing to INVEST and PRODUCE the quality things that people are looking to see.
Around this same time last year, Tencent Penguin Pictures had made its announcement of some of the things that were in their pipeline of productions they were looking to distribute and release. This list includes: The Message [remake]; The King's Avatar [Yang Yang lead role]; all the Candle of the Tomb series; See You Again; Only Side By Side With You; The Wolf; Secrets of Three Kingdoms. They've indicated that they're looking to also do Novoland Castle in the Sky 2 & Medical Examiner Dr. Qin 3. More excitement was when they announced they were doing the sequel to Eternal Love, Three Lives, Three Worlds, The Pillow Book.
Then in September the talked about adding Joy of Life and suggesting continuing Luhan's role with New Fighter of the Destiny. Additional titles are: The Golden Eyes, a new version of Prince of Tennis starring pro-tennis player, Li Na, and her husband, Ass9ssins, a remake of The New Story of a Noble Fmaily, a sequel to Chinese Style Relationship, Guardian of Light, The Tibet Code that will also get a movie that will be a Chinese-American co-production, as well as Fights Break Sphere. They also produced the movie with Crystal Liu and FSF, Hanson and the Beast.
Why am I talking about all these dramas on here? Because some of these have already been released and you can get a dang good idea of the difference between an EPIC Chinese drama produced by others versus the ones Tencent is involved with, and the difference paints a picture. If I'm looking at what to watch for a Chinese production, I'm dang well gonna see if Tencent has a hand in it, because chances are, that drama or movie will be better than average with topnotch industry professionals participating and giving it the quality these stories deserve. With every new drama this company has released in the past two years, they are slowly winning me over to their side. Legend of Fu Yao is no different. The reason I'm hopeful that this will be considered an epic Chinese drama IS the fact that Tencent Penguin Pictures was involved in producing it.
"...In OCD, the avascular fragment separates from a normal, vascular bony bed beneath a sclerotic rim."
"In AVN, the avascular osteochondral surface breaks into multiple fragments and separates from an avascular bed."
OCD usually occurs in the knee and AVN in the hip it seems... additionally, OCD can be curable in adolescence but permanent once it's discovered in adulthood. AVN is genetic not traumatic like OCD, thus, it's not curable at all. Surgery etc is only done to heal the fractures and help with pain reduction.
Very sad case for both of them, frankly. They'll both be suffering through pain for the remainder of their lives. **sigh**
So, again, in general, I truly dislike a costar who doesn't respond back, when they're supposed to be into it based on the story, especially with the hands down at the side. Who does that? Isn't it naturally to at least hold on to the other person's arm or side to keep you balance? lol. I just don't think the drama chosen was the right one. If you want to know how that scene was written, here is the link to the English translation:
https://wwyxhqc.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/%E5%BE%AE%E5%BE%AE%E4%B8%80%E7%AC%91%E5%BE%88%E5%80%BE%E5%9F%8E-chapter-thirty-eight-return-slowly-as-i-wait-for-you/
1. you should have at least a glossary understanding of the professional relationship between Lee Jong Hyun & Gong Seung Yeon and that neither of the characters they are portraying in anyway resembles them as a "professional" couple or individually, and
2. you have watched at least one other show that Gong Seung Yeon has been in to understand her acting capabilities and general style.
This show is a parody of Kdrama tropes, fully tongue and cheek, with the characters overacting their trope roles on purpose. Without real confirmation, but based on WGM fans who loved Gong Seung Yeon & Lee Jong Hyun as the "Bee Couple" [meaning so sweet they are making honey like bees], it is likely the plot was created as "fan service" since their time together on the show was cut rather short for no really clear reason. Many of the things that happen can be referenced back to something that took place during their time on WGM variety show. This isn't meant to be a serious drama. It's 100% slapstick and over exaggerated to give these two some major experience in a lead role. It's also the first time either of them had a true kiss on camera. Most likely, because they've spent so much time together as a "couple" on camera, it would naturally be easier for them to give this part a go and do well doing it together. It was a great forum for a practice run in the "romance genre" of acting for both of them, and it's no coincidence that after the release of this on Netflix and the reception/ratings it got on that platform, that both Lee Jong Hyun & Gong Seung Yeon were picked up by OCN and KBS2 to star as leads in a romance drama, which are both going to be airing in March, 2018.
Lastly, Universal music sold all of its stock shares in Cube Entertainment at the beginning of the year, and Cube revert to Loen for distribution. That's a lost for their global market, not a gain.
It's times like these you are reminded that South Korea still lives under the veil of a strong nepotistic cultural. Not only giving Cube this award, but Ruler so much recognition over other more popular dramas, this is the only thing that truly makes any sense. If you've paid your dues and networked, and know the big names that hand out the awards, you'll trump quality and get the paycheck every time. Seems that's how Korea works a majority of the time.