Seeing the episode 1 preview, my heart sank. There are such perfect moments in the Japanese movie version of this,…
Hollywood's are nonexistent in my mind. They don't even count. The American mindset really doesn't relate to the characters and unless you have a <3 of Japanese culture and somewhat of a connection to it, you simply cannot pull it off right. It's like the subbed versus dubbed animes or live adaptations. I simply cannot stand any of the dubbed in English. English speakers just don't understand the dynamics of how to present the dialogue. You have to have the emotions behind it for it to really make sense.
Seeing the episode 1 preview, my heart sank. There are such perfect moments in the Japanese movie version of this, and Sato Takeru, who I loved as Kenshin, was still the best Aki there could ever be for me. He does brooding like no other male actor I've seen. The instant unexpected tears. His non-verbal reaction and *sighs* to her voice. His ability to hide, except to Oharu. Oharu's childlike excitement, freshness, and innocence, added to stellar guitar playing and angelic voice that makes Japanese sound like American pop. How could this even come close. I want to cry ever time they decide to take perfection and tear it up and make it into a paper mache version of the real thing.
So, this webtoon is complete but FNC canceled the contract with the original platform over its launch uncertainty and is now looking for a new platform to air the drama. This is so sad. Lots of Bee Couple supporters have been looking forward to seeing the results of their renewed interactions. What a waste if it's left on the cutting room floor:
I had a hard time comprehending the hype over this show now that I've finished it. I actually started it 4 days ago, and never felt a rush to finish it, which is unusual for me. For me, it was going really well until about the 6th episode, when it got utterly repetitive. The constant attempt to pull emotions and tears from me started to get tired. I was right there even after the 3rd time of saying goodbye, but then, that's what this show ending up repeating, the long goodbye. Halfway through I was no longer as invested in the main OTP and became more interested in the 2nd Grim Reaper couple. Bringing in the demon brought back my interest, but not enough to have redeem the fact that there were lots of plot holes, a petty deity, and never understood why people couldn't move past history for sorrow, and leave only to return. That's where it all just seemed at times to give off contrived nonsense as some kind of romantic poetic theme and the show acted haughtier than it should have been during those times. If it stuck more with the rom-com elements instead of attempting the tearjerker, I'd have thought better of it. When any of them go to their spiritual monologue segments, I halfway through I started rolling my eyes. You don't need to beat a dead horse and repeat the most impactful lines over and over again. It's best when they stand alone. I'm honestly sad to say this too. After all the reviews and comments, I wanted to like this more but just couldn't... 7.5/10 for me.
I don't know whether this is good or not, but because of the cast I felt compelled to read some of the comments out of interest as to people's take on it and now I feel it's important for those who have AND haven't seen the original Entourage to get a bit of a postmortem explanation of it:
I never watched Entourage because what it represented to me wasn't appealing. Fact is, Entourage was the American males' retaliation to Sex In The City's fame, and is loosely a Mark Walhberg fantasy life during his "Marky Mark" days and is just that "fantasy". Maybe some aspects could be considered pulling the veil off of Hollywood, like possibly the She-E-Ooos because, frankly, having worked under both female & male Executives in the USA, they honestly have a point that the women are crueler bosses and tend to be like a Sageuk King who fears the success of his generals so eats his own. But let's be clear, the show was a male inspired Meme-tastic Hollywood version of basically a drama of nothingness like Seinfeld. This is what is part of a distinct American culture, and whether the show hits or bombs is based on, largely, whether the "MEMES" are time relevant and people like them enough for them to catch on and spread fire across the country. As an older female, I can say this kind of phenomenon most likely took place at the start up of SNL in the USA. When I was in middle school, during lunch time sitting at the benches with 4 attached tables worth of friends, the conversations of my youth on Mondays & Tuesdays devolved around who could parrot the best memes from SNL: "No coke, Pepsi, Pepsi, CHEESEburger.." "More cowbell"... etc. Entourage is a creation of this type of MEME-tastic seasonal sitcom lifestyle that made a tv show like Seinfeld, based on nothing, become so popular. Entourage is honestly no different:
Watch the whole "honest" trailer for further clarifications on the MEMES associated with Entourage:
Now, I'm not saying that South Korea is devoid of memes and the ability to produce shows based on said subject...however, much like the standard "16 episode" tv series that has never existed in the history of American television and the fact that success of a tv show in the USA is based on your fan-base and how long you can keep it going and how many seasons you can run that at, where the PILOT is the end-all and be-all of your ability to even get an attempt to garner success, the South Korean tv show culture has it's own process that's 180 degrees in difference. On top of that, the USA has no decorum or set of culture "respect" it must adhere to, and whether or not someone gets offended would most likely be random versus specific. What I'm saying is that they can depict illicit interactions with males and females in a way it would never be accepted in Korea even if it was put up on cable TV. It's hard to say how you generate the level of MEMES between American culture and Korean culture to make it entertaining. As I read through the comments, some are fine with whatever "memes" are pushed on the Korean version, for others it didn't translate, and then there are those who don't even have the slightest idea what Entourage was about other than the title is popular in the USA. But, believe me, even in the USA, at the time it was a guilty pleasure for a lot of folks who woke up after it was all over and are STILL asking themselves why they bothered to watch it...
Guys, where did you watch this?
Kissasian only have up to episode 34 :/
As of today DF is up to ep. 40. It looks like all the other sights are getting their cues from DF since they have the license for it. The other sites update theirs after DF release their subbed version. Based on DF's main page they are releasing subbed episodes at a rate of 2 per WEEKday. That means will have to wait until Monday for episodes 41-42. Then it's 2 a day until Friday. By that estimate we'll see the completed episodes by mid-March.
Suddenly coming back here and thinking of this drama. :,) I really am curious, wasn't it originally 20 episodes?…
It's ratings weren't that hot. It's a touchy subject and although most of us really enjoyed and appreciated the chemistry between the OTP, it got a lot of criticism for being really unemotional and detached in every other area. In the end, I think, yes it was supposed to be 20, and the PD didn't specifically announce why they shelved 17-20, but the rest of the characters would have just trashed the place, and thankfully they understood that about this show.
It's not the sex that's the problem for me, it's the violence. I literally got sick to my stomach & threw up halfway through this movie. I've watched a lot of WWII movies and violence that depict horrible nazi atrocities, but I think you're going in set that this is what you are going to see. Here, watching friends in a sort of shark frenzy was shocking to my senses. I was yelling at the screen, "Fuck, stop already, it's fucking enough..." just as my stomach turned and it was over for me. I'm sorry but, I can't sit through shit like that.
Craziness about Yang Yang's role in Martial Universe... http://www.cpoplove.com/2016/12/13/yang-yangs-controversy-continues-rumors-surface/
Why are you posting rumors here? Anyone who watched Love o2o wouldn't believe a word of this nonsense. His acting is fine and in 30 episodes I cannot imagine what scenes a body double with a mask could have been imposed. This is just Yang Yang anti-fan nonsense:
“Martial Universe” producer Jiang Minhao responded to the rumors of the face masks saying that this was incredibly ludicrous..– He also expressed that it’s impossible for Yang Yang to be on vacation everyday, “If he is, then what are we filming?..Yang Yang’s company has already released a press release saying that these actions have severely affected Yang Yang’s work and life and that they will be pursuing things legally."
..and when those promoting the rumors say:
[+4,471] I admit he’s good looking, but I haven’t seen any of his acting skills
[+2,571] I can only say he rose to popularity thanks to girls. He’s someone who lives off others
...then you know it's just jealous sour grapes with an agenda. He is not simply a pretty face. I've seen enough K-pop idol turned actor and Yang Yang stuff to know there's a huge difference. You only need to watch Left Ear to understand what I mean.
im looking for the uncut of Sotus and I cant find anywhere and also the episode 16.
Ooo... this episode shows us what could have been. I like the relationship between Krist and Singto and I think that it would have been just as good if not better if they had switched roles. ...but I just love this series....
Although it's adapted according to the Twelfth Night, and it's more about being competitive than lusting after some athlete, my favorite version is still the American one, "She's the Man". ...Tatum Chaning naive jock soccer team capt before anyone knew he could move his body like that in Step Up is priceless. His character was so adorable... and Amanda wasn't a complete nutjob yet. ...oh how times have changed... AND She's the Man just so happened to be released in March, 2006, a few months before this drama, so I think the concept was in everyone's mind. ;)
It took them more than half the drama episodes finally get together and be married and even include the kids in their life, I started wondering why in the hell the show was called Five Children. More than 2/3 of this show isn't even about Five Children but in-laws, brothers, and sisters, and their relationships and romances. lol.... The kids are more like window dressing and secondary to the show.... thankfully though, the other romances aren't too annoying and boring that you forget what the premise of the show is about... I remember a few USA movies on the subject of widowers remarrying with several kids. Or the movie Yours, Mine, Ours... It's not like this is a unique idea. Possibly it is in SK.. but it's far better to have this kind of family rather than the hidden love children because of pride and shame.
Nong Singto (Ruangroj Prachaya) has an amazing set of facial expressions I've ever seen! He can convey emotions…
I've been unbelievably impressed with both Singto and Krist's acting chops. Krist can completely transform to where he doesn't even look like his normal self with a simple look. Both of them have the ability to wear their emotions on their sleeves which is essential for this drama.
I'm just gonna put this out there. I'm not a Lee Hong Ki hater, but I really, really hate that ending song for every episode. I don't know why, but, for me, it doesn't fit.
Seriously, I'm mad at myself for letting people make me judge IU without watching her acting!! she was good…
I was shocked at how many people said the acting of the majority of the main characters was bad. For me, they all did so well. It's hard to have as indepth a script as the original when it has almost twice as many episodes. For what they had to work with, I thought this version was great. For me, the quality of the acting comes from their approach as well as how believable they are in their characters. I don't see how you watch this and not see them doing so well. The ones you're supposed to like you really, really like and the ones you need to hate, you really, really hate, and some you want to forgive, others you find it impossible.... and the whole time they do make you understand they lived in a complicated time. That says to me, with as minimal as the script was, good acting. I'm not sure I know what more people wanted from them in this regard. What more were they supposed to do??? If I can have those feelings for these character, knowing the plot since I saw the C-version a while ago... then, yep, they done did a good job. ;)
Oh Singto's acting is sooooooo good in episode 10!!!! I could just about feel every emotion coming from him. He went from Mr. Happy to Mr. Stressed Out and it was such a noticeably difference even though he didn't overact or overplay it. Watching him stare and swallow his own saliva, dang that was brutal. =*(
I watched Ep. 9 a while ago, and holy crap.... that's some good stuff right there.... Pretty much worth the wait... and I'm shoring myself up for next week's angst... I saw some of the gifs of Kong on the balcony.. Whoa... it's like their acting gets hella improved with each episode.. they are so into their characters it's ridiculous.
http://m.entertain.naver.com/read?oid=109&aid=0003440787
http://www.reuters.com/article/brief-fnc-add-culture-cancels-contract-w-idUSL3N1GJ1F2
I never watched Entourage because what it represented to me wasn't appealing. Fact is, Entourage was the American males' retaliation to Sex In The City's fame, and is loosely a Mark Walhberg fantasy life during his "Marky Mark" days and is just that "fantasy". Maybe some aspects could be considered pulling the veil off of Hollywood, like possibly the She-E-Ooos because, frankly, having worked under both female & male Executives in the USA, they honestly have a point that the women are crueler bosses and tend to be like a Sageuk King who fears the success of his generals so eats his own. But let's be clear, the show was a male inspired Meme-tastic Hollywood version of basically a drama of nothingness like Seinfeld. This is what is part of a distinct American culture, and whether the show hits or bombs is based on, largely, whether the "MEMES" are time relevant and people like them enough for them to catch on and spread fire across the country. As an older female, I can say this kind of phenomenon most likely took place at the start up of SNL in the USA. When I was in middle school, during lunch time sitting at the benches with 4 attached tables worth of friends, the conversations of my youth on Mondays & Tuesdays devolved around who could parrot the best memes from SNL: "No coke, Pepsi, Pepsi, CHEESEburger.." "More cowbell"... etc. Entourage is a creation of this type of MEME-tastic seasonal sitcom lifestyle that made a tv show like Seinfeld, based on nothing, become so popular. Entourage is honestly no different:
Watch the whole "honest" trailer for further clarifications on the MEMES associated with Entourage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJLXkxfexrE&feature=youtu.be
Now, I'm not saying that South Korea is devoid of memes and the ability to produce shows based on said subject...however, much like the standard "16 episode" tv series that has never existed in the history of American television and the fact that success of a tv show in the USA is based on your fan-base and how long you can keep it going and how many seasons you can run that at, where the PILOT is the end-all and be-all of your ability to even get an attempt to garner success, the South Korean tv show culture has it's own process that's 180 degrees in difference. On top of that, the USA has no decorum or set of culture "respect" it must adhere to, and whether or not someone gets offended would most likely be random versus specific. What I'm saying is that they can depict illicit interactions with males and females in a way it would never be accepted in Korea even if it was put up on cable TV. It's hard to say how you generate the level of MEMES between American culture and Korean culture to make it entertaining. As I read through the comments, some are fine with whatever "memes" are pushed on the Korean version, for others it didn't translate, and then there are those who don't even have the slightest idea what Entourage was about other than the title is popular in the USA. But, believe me, even in the USA, at the time it was a guilty pleasure for a lot of folks who woke up after it was all over and are STILL asking themselves why they bothered to watch it...
“Martial Universe” producer Jiang Minhao responded to the rumors of the face masks saying that this was incredibly ludicrous..– He also expressed that it’s impossible for Yang Yang to be on vacation everyday, “If he is, then what are we filming?..Yang Yang’s company has already released a press release saying that these actions have severely affected Yang Yang’s work and life and that they will be pursuing things legally."
..and when those promoting the rumors say:
[+4,471] I admit he’s good looking, but I haven’t seen any of his acting skills
[+2,571] I can only say he rose to popularity thanks to girls. He’s someone who lives off others
...then you know it's just jealous sour grapes with an agenda. He is not simply a pretty face. I've seen enough K-pop idol turned actor and Yang Yang stuff to know there's a huge difference. You only need to watch Left Ear to understand what I mean.