Victim blaming 101 -- people go to great lengths to defend rapists.
So, w/e evidence to the contrary, any woman who accuses a man means the man is automatically guilty. Plus, his attempt or anyone else's attempt to refute and defend themselves against the charges are automatically "victim blamers".
Yep, there are victims. Yep, there are those who victim blame. Yep, there are those who are guilty. But there are also false accusations, and guys who aren't truly guilty of the crime.
I'll let South Koreans speak for the FACTS in this situation. South Korea is a pretty straightforwardly conservative country when it comes to these things. Sex trafficking, molka abuse, pornography, prostitution, and the like are all under the surface and exist, yes. However, the citizens at large do not take kindly to these things out in the public. In the current era, being caught treating a woman like trash will get you banished, & ostracized from community life. You'd better hide your face and never be acknowledged in public or citizens will have no fear to openly and publicly humiliate you.
Even more so, when it comes to celebrities at any level. They are held to an even HIGHER standard than the rest of us. Even a small infraction can completely destroy their career and very few are ever forgiven to grace themselves as a public entertainer ever again. There's a laundry list of men who have been accused of far smaller crimes than Park Shi Hoo who no longer are viable entertainers.
The fact that only 4 years after such a HUGE scandal, TV networks like KBS & Chosun are hiring him for their dramas speaks volumes to the validity of the woman's accusations and his guilt, especially in the South Korean #MeToo era. No network would want the drama of a scandal overshadowing their production time and time again. If the woman's case was verified, the public would never let him hear the end of it every time he showed his face on camera, regardless of if she received a payout or not. End of story.
Since everyone has moved on years ago.... so should the rest of us.
Watch the drama or not.... but don't use something that happened 7 years ago to trash something that involves far more than ONE MAN. The other actors, and the production crew, deserve to have their work acknowledged despite anyone's grudge over something that doesn't even affect them personally that tries to trash their hardwork and good efforts. The drama isn't about Park Shi Ho, but the ENTIRE CAST. So, get over it already.
Victim blaming 101 -- people go to great lengths to defend rapists.
So, w/e evidence to the contrary, any woman who accuses a man means the man is automatically guilty. Plus, his attempt or anyone else's attempt to refute and defend themselves against the charges are automatically "victim blamers".
Yep, there are victims. Yep, there are those who victim blame. Yep, there are those who are guilty. But there are also false accusations, and guys who aren't truly guilty of the crime.
I'll let South Koreans speak for the FACTS in this situation. South Korea is a pretty straightforwardly conservative country when it comes to these things. Sex trafficking, molka abuse, pornography, prostitution, and the like are all under the surface and exist, yes. However, the citizens at large do not take kindly to these things out in the public. In the current era, being caught treating a woman like trash will get you banished, & ostracized from community life. You'd better hide your face and never be acknowledged in public or citizens will have no fear to openly and publicly humiliate you.
Even more so, when it comes to celebrities at any level. They are held to an even HIGHER standard than the rest of us. Even a small infraction can completely destroy their career and very few are ever forgiven to grace themselves as a public entertainer ever again. There's a laundry list of men who have been accused of far smaller crimes than Park Shi Hoo who no longer are viable entertainers.
The fact that only 4 years after such a HUGE scandal, TV networks like KBS & Chosun are hiring him for their dramas speaks volumes to the validity of the woman's accusations and his guilt, especially in the South Korean #MeToo era. No network would want the drama of a scandal overshadowing their production time and time again. If the woman's case was verified, the public would never let him hear the end of it every time he showed his face on camera, regardless of if she received a payout or not. End of story.
Since everyone has moved on years ago.... so should the rest of us.
Watch the drama or not.... but don't use something that happened 7 years ago to trash something that involves far more than ONE MAN. The other actors, and the production crew, deserve to have their work acknowledged despite anyone's grudge over something that doesn't even affect them personally that tries to trash their hardwork and good efforts. The drama isn't about Park Shi Ho, but the ENTIRE CAST. So, get over it already.
This is the problem with Covid-19. It seeks out the weak and vulnerable and destroys.
As his sister said, please stay healthy, especially if you have comorbidities. He had been fighting this for a while, and who knows what the true results would have been if it wasn't for this disease. It's so disheartening these days. Stay vigilant and careful of yourselves and your family.
May Park Ji Hoon rest in peace and his family be consoled through each other and the love of their friends and loved ones.
I don’t think I’ll be watching this BECAUSE I don’t want to support “drama”. The ones who OFFICIALLY created all the controversy are the ones who said, This or That in the public sphere. Those who kept a smile on their face, sucked it up, kept quiet except when in situations, due to professionalism, needing to answer a question, but never with any shade happen to not be a part of this project. The others who have something to say about everything, stirring the pot every time they open their mouths, fanning the flames of This or That fandom are still around controlling the strings.
Frankly, I’m very happy to see someone so very young able to move on and navigate the situation with dignity and grace. He reminds me of my own son. For those who want to cut+copy+paste an interview to push an agenda that says that grown ass men acting more like children, starting drama against teenagers new to their occupation, and potentially harming their careers didn’t have an agenda of their own going into Season 2, that’s your business.
BUT...
THIS: ~“ My schedule is tight and quite long. I have WhyRU the Series and Let’s Fight Ghost. I don’t think its appropriate to make them wait for me.”~ **was purely Saint being ultra respectful to them where he didn’t have to, and giving the production the EXACT ***OUT/EXCUSE*** they are using for the non-appearance.
Let’s NOT forget that he said BEFORE this comment: ~”I think if they want me to take part in the series, they would’ve contacted me before finishing the teaser.”~ There is NO WAY Saint was going to put himself back into the same position he got out of. He realized that the offer was only made because No Fandom=No Success. If there’s no sincerity in it, you know EXACTLY what you’re in for next.
Pretty grateful that he’s grown up and matured over this well. He’s not holding animosity. He gave them the soundbite they were looking for, and I have totes respect for this kind of class at his age! Besides, with his last BL drama, he’s showed the rest of them what your production is missing out on if the partners aren’t willing to invest in being part of the creative process and giving it all they have for their character, and having a director that’s completely invested in their cast. Supporting toxic productions does nothing to promote healthy BL drama depictions for the future. We don’t need problematic OTPs on-screen OR off-screen.... and some of these relationships are pretty freaking questionable. Right?
Yeah, I was all about the cheese and it was such a NEEDED reprieve from everything I'm dealing with living in California at the time I watched this.... Timing being right, I gave this a 10/10. Don't "at" me on it!
I have a LOT of them : **South Korea & Thai in spoiler reply for those interested.. LMFAO.. otherwise it would be an endless stream of links!!**
***Taiwan:
Unstoppable Sun [Dang Bu Zhu De Tai Yang]- Aaron Yan - Just You OST [Aaron sings it with such emotion he sounds perfect even live!] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MiRd6yISrg
Waiting For You [Sheng Deng Ni - Opening Theme] - Qu Chu Xiao [Male Version **my preference cuz Chu Xiao just sings it so passionately** but Tia Ray's version is still beautiful as well] - Bloody Romance OST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn0fD6_duWQ&list=WL&index=40&t=0s
Hi,I don't think writing is lazy.On the contrary, it has become very sophisticated, very detailed, very elaborate.At…
I gave Hotel Del Luna a 7/10 for the very fact that it was, to me, very lazy writing. Most of the backstory was filler. It repeated the same scenes multiple times in multiple episodes and added very little in substance to the plot even when changing POV or perspectives. It's very reminiscent of how Chinese dramas do flashbacks to make a drama go from 30 episodes to 60-70. What I'm saying is that, at the beginning it hinted at this great character development that was supposed to happen, and, in the end, there really wasn't much to her backstory.
This is what I wrote a month ago regarding rating it a 7: [Start]"...I watched to the very end hoping to feel relief at what I was experiencing as a wholly anti-climatic ending in the last 3 episodes but, alas, it didn't really happen. The ending was deflating.
My wish was they'd resolve the side characters a bit earlier, and clear up the reasonings for them being there sooner. Additionally, I wasn't really impressed with the resolution of her 1,000 year grudge.
The OTP was fine, but towards the end, even they lacked substance to their relationship.
It seemed like the drama went adrift and stammered around trying to figure out how it was gonna resolve everything. The poetic phrases to answer clear questions made absolutely no sense, and things just took place willy-nilly and nothing followed a universal law so why some could do one thing but others couldn't just made me confused. I wish it was much clearer in expressing the premises..." [End]
And as far as scripts only becoming more "elaborate", "sophisticated", & "detailed" recently, but "less inspired" seems off to my experience. Maybe you started watching K-dramas only recently? Or haven't watched as many as I have.
My "ALL TIME" stats are 13,617 episodes, 712 shows, & 240 movies, and there's likely some I missed to rate from between 2001-2006 that I watched. I remember quite a few older dramas quite fondly. They were both elaborate, detailed, the premise fully fleshed out, inspirational, & with the case of "romance", a passionate OTP.
I'll give you my examples of dramas I ranked from 8/10 to 10/10 back in the more *recent* history for you to ponder:
2011 & 2012: 1. Scent of a Woman, 2. City Hunter, 3. Arang and the Magistrate, 4. Queen In Hyun's Man, 5. Operation Proposal, and 6. Faith.
2013: 1. You Who Came from the Stars, 2. Two Weeks, 3. Nine: Nine Times Time Travel, 4. I Hear Your Voice, 5. The Master's Sun, and 6. Who Are You
2014: 1. Healer, 2. Incomplete Life 3. It's Okay, That's Love, 4. Pride & Prejudice, and 5. Pinocchio
2015: 1. Kill Me, Heal Me, 2. The Girl Who Sees Scents, and 3. Oh My Ghostess
2016: 1. A Beautiful Mind, & 2. Bring It On, Ghost
2017: 1. Circle, 2. Tomorrow With You, 3. While You Were Sleeping, 4. Chicago Typewriter, and 5. Black
Do you notice a pattern there??? I would say that a bit into 2015, the writing in K-dramas started to take a bit of a nosedive. Although I have a fair amount of dramas listed, I still do NOT think dramas in the last 5 years are AS elaborate, sophisticated, detailed, inspirational, passionate, and MOST IMPORTANTLY -- ENJOYABLE TO WATCH...than these dramas in more recent history. Nowadays you're hard pressed to find a show you're willing to stay up all night ONE MORE TIME, just to marathon REWATCHING it again, just to get back those Old School vibes. lol.
I think you're going to get a consistent repeat of the same statements from a majority of the people:
SAME!
We ALL used to stay up to all hours of the night then dragging are dead asses to work the next day because we just needed to know what happened next and couldn't stop ourselves. In the last 2 years, I think I've only done that a handful of times, and ironically, it was for Chinese dramas. I don't have had that kind of motivation for any K-drama since 2017.
It's seriously hard to pin-point it exactly. I think it's a bit of a mix bag, and different people hang their hats on different things.
One thing I can say, it's not because K-Dramas have become predictable or cliche. If that was the case, then I wouldn't marathon all night any Chinese dramas.
What for me seem to be the issues are really seriously lazy writing, muted romance or even non-existent romance, unsatisfying OTPs, bad acting, focus on Idol actors, and too serious of topics. They're not as light and airy as the used to be. I want sugar, and my OTPs should want sugar as well. Those romantic intense moments just aren't there as often anymore, or they gloss over the process.
Some people are saying that the imagination is "finite" or that every aspect of a story has been told already. Well, I don't agree the imagination is "finite", just like I don't believe wealth is "finite" or the universe is "finite.
What I will say that is "similar" is human nature. We've been told about the 7 Deadly Sins because, for the most part, evil/cruel/callous acts by humans pretty much stem from aspects of these. There are also various similarities between love and relationships. However, no human being has ever been exactly like another, so there will always be some divergence in plot.
So, what I'm saying is that I could come up with some "new" murder/mystery/suspense stories just by things that have happened irl. Humans are so infinite in their character makeup and motivations that they create stories that are most times better than fiction. In the USA, as an example, if you created a story of a Doomsday advocating couple vacationing in Hawaii while the rest of their family and Americans look for the children, and the accompanying drama and mystery that unfold when the fact this couple don't feel inclined to let even police authorities know where their "missing" children are at the moment, all I could think was, "this would make a fine movie...doesn't get more original then this right here...sad but true..."
Let's not take this in a negative way. When was the last time an American movie was nominated and awarded a Baeksang Arts Award for Best Film? The Oscars are an American awards ceremony, and quite frankly, all things considering, fairly INCLUSIVE rather than EXCLUSIVE in its makeup. Let's, please, NOT discount that. This isn't the UN deciding who is the World's Best Filmmaker.
As for "Disney" & "ABC" "dominating" viewership, that's honestly NOT true. The stat I'm talking about is for the person, the individual, the man himself, Walt Disney. His last Oscar was in 1959 for "Live Action Short" -- Grand Canyon, before he passed away in 1966. Over his lifetime he won 22 Academy Awards, and based on how many Disney films are translated in just about every language and beloved by millions the world over even into this day and age, it was deserved...
I only pointed out that Bong Joon Ho is the only other INDIVIDUAL, person, man, to accomplish an historical record comparable to Walt Disney himself. I'm not talking about corporations, so that rant has no place here.
A LOT of American entertainment and media elites were actually shocked by this, especially when it dawned on them that, in his first ever running for Oscars, Bong Joon Ho tied Walt Disney's record of most Oscars awarded in ONE NIGHT.
It's hard enough to win an Oscar, American entertainers will tell you, let alone to earn the TRIPLE CROWN - Screenplay, Director, & Film. But 4 for one person is a feat of more than historical proportions.. this is beyond just history-making for South Korea... this became U.S. history-making as well.
How can you say you watched 18 episodes out of 17 episodes and completed this and review it? The drama isn't even over yet. Next time, in the essence of fairness, please consider acknowledging EXACTLY how many episodes you have ACTUALLY watched at the point you made your review, so everyone can have a better understanding of what you can truly KNOW about how good this drama is and to what point. It's the considerate thing to do.
So unrealistic, Hwi kills 10-15 men alone,even all 4 of them together kills no matter how many men they are against,…
Well, the Kenshin trilogy is based on actual swordfighters that existed in history; and historical accounts talk about great practiced swordfighters having accomplished feats like this. Being this is a historical, it actual is realistic, and why they are leaders. They get those positions from the practice, experience, and successes they've obtained from their youth into adulthood.
Additionally, you might watch this professional explanation about the idea of 1 vs multiple opponents and the concept of the Law of Diminishing Returns. Having a 2nd degree black belt in taekwondo myself, and a son with a 3rd degree, and tell you with practice and experience, regular fighting is an act of controlled chaos and the more experience and control you have of the situation the better your outcoming, and that doesn't automatically mean that more people attacking will ALWAYS overpower the ones weaker in number. That's entirely dependent on variable factors, like their practice and skill level in similar situations. It's certain that no outcome is secure, but the better trained and experienced you are, regardless of numbers, gives you a higher percentage chance of success.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s7KfetTixQ
Don't try to play ignorant. Don't try to say that he was JUST friends with him; didn't know what they were doing so couldn't report them to the police for rape; and that he didn't participate. He WATCHED the rape videos. He admitted it. And then he CONTINUED to ask them to send HIM girls he could have sex with for himself. He didn't care about the female victims, he wanted them to send him females he could "play with" himself. Stop acting like he's an innocent dupe...there's a reason why he FINALLY quit CNBlue! Because he was trolling social media streaming sites for girls to hit up after he said he'd "reflect" on not acting so misogynistic in the future, while he's in the military!! He's supposed to be quietly doing his duty, not trying to hook up with women...and SOUTH KOREANS were upset about finding out about it that he agreed to leave the band and quit entertaining altogether.
He ACKNOWLEDGES his OWN wrongdoings! Why can't you!!!??!!!
They gonna be leads together in another drama series? Which one?
I wasn't saying they were going to be in a drama "together" but that they were going to be lead actors in a drama. This quote is from 2 years ago and her drama was a bit delayed from when it was supposed to originally air due to CGI editing. The drama I was referring to was 'Are You Human Too?' His drama I was referring to was That Man Oh Soo. Regrettably, I'd rather forget this comment, and Lee Jong Hyun and his acting/singing all together, frankly.
You are defending a man who referred to Jung Joon Young as his "best friend". A man who wrote in the chatrooms, “Let’s all get together online, hit the strip bar and rape them in the car.” and where other members responded, “Our lives are like a movie. We have done so many things that could put us in jail. We just haven’t killed anyone." Lee Jong Hyun's label mate Choi Jong Hoon, from FTIsland, and Jung Joon Young were charged with gang-raping a girl, an act that they filmed and shared. Lee Jong Hyun openly admits that he viewed the shared videos. After seeing a video of a girl being gang raped, this man continued his friendship with him and, as we know from reports, asked him to send him girls "to play with" and that they "preferably" be "ones you haven't **** yet." He spoke about women in misogynistic terms and, based on the conversations we know full well that when he asked Jung Joon Young to "send me women quick" he meant the women he can sexually abuse easily like Jung Joon Young does. After this scandal came to light he said he would "reflect" on his behavior in the military, he wasn't even able to wait but a few months before being outed by a female where he was sliding into DMs/PMs sexually trolling for female YouTube streamers. His inability to even keep his behind the scenes trolling on wraps caused him to finally have to quit CNBlue, and essentially ended his career. He did that ALL on his own.
As for no one being found guilty, as you suggest, that's not true anymore now is it? As of November 29, 2019, Jung Joon Young was given a 6 year prison sentence and Choi Jong Hoon was given a 5 year prison sentence for their part in a gang-rape of a girl that they videotaped and which Jung Joon Young distributed to his "friends". Anyone who watches a CRIME such as gang-rape; knows the perpetrators; has the ability to discover the victim's identity; stays silent; and asks those people to send him girls he can have sex with is one thing and one thing only, a complicit sexual predator who thinks nothing of these things, and who, if he hasn't done the same thing, at least behind the scenes, condoned those kinds of actions by his friends.
If you like people like this, it most certainly reflects on you as a person and your morals. What you say after this can be weighted against those facts. Your comments have little merit. You can "like" and "support" whoever you want. There are women who seek out serial killers and marry them, for whatever their reasons may be....but normal human beings know that people like that have serious mental issues and nothing of respect to say and offer to the human race.
"Western Mentality" is one of the most annoying ways to dismiss a very serious critique or concern. It is the…
I have a Bachelor of Science, with a minor in Finance in International Business. Not only did I take Economic Geography, I was required to take Cultural Anthropology. I'm well aware that there are differing cultural norms. But you are sadly misinformed if you believe a sociologist has the end say in cultural morals.
AGAIN, it really bothers me the whole cultural relativism, and there already exist nudist colonies...but CIVILIZED society, in which, YES, there is a difference and the WORLD as a whole differentiate it by calling those not 'THIRD WORLD', have decided long ago, for the respect and dignity of others, especially children, having sex in the streets like dogs is beneath humanity.
ALSO, it bothers me when people who try to tell you how "open-minded" they are, pop off without really FULLY reading the CONTEXT in which things are spoken. The CONTEXT being, there are approx. 241 countries/territories across the global. The United Nations OFFICIALLY recognizes 195, 193 of which are MEMBERS of the UN. Of those MEMBERS they have all agreed to sign the Universal Declaration of Human Rights...in doing so they have AGREED on THIS:
"....Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction...."
Thailand has agreed INTERNATIONALLY, as well as NATIONALLY that RAPE is a crime against humanity, and a criminal act within its own borders. Those ideas are enumerated in Thailand's Penal Code -- Thailand's Criminal Code Sections 0276-0281..but in a nutshell, if you RAPE someone and are convicted you're going to jail for between 4-20 years. ADDITIONALLY, WITHIN THE CULTURE OF THAILAND, enumerated in these CRIMINAL LAWS, it doesn't matter if there is consent, it's ALSO considered RAPE for a person of age to have sex with anyone under the age of 15!! Those are THAILAND'S LAWS... so I don't know who is telling you that Thailand ACCEPTS RAPE simply because their entertainment industry tries to portray it in some positive way... I'm AMERICAN and THIS is the reason I don't like watching WESTERN entertainment!! PERIOD!! Because the portrayal of immorality as unproblematic. It's been why I prefer to watch Asian dramas/movies because CULTURALLY that's not tolerated as much. Thailand's lakorns are an anomaly in this way. People in the nation like it, and it sells...just like HBO's Sopranos was a big hit and culturally those kinds of people exist in the USA-- mafia...but that doesn't make it NORMAL, ACCEPTABLE, or LEGAL.
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Yep, there are victims. Yep, there are those who victim blame. Yep, there are those who are guilty. But there are also false accusations, and guys who aren't truly guilty of the crime.
I'll let South Koreans speak for the FACTS in this situation. South Korea is a pretty straightforwardly conservative country when it comes to these things. Sex trafficking, molka abuse, pornography, prostitution, and the like are all under the surface and exist, yes. However, the citizens at large do not take kindly to these things out in the public. In the current era, being caught treating a woman like trash will get you banished, & ostracized from community life. You'd better hide your face and never be acknowledged in public or citizens will have no fear to openly and publicly humiliate you.
Even more so, when it comes to celebrities at any level. They are held to an even HIGHER standard than the rest of us. Even a small infraction can completely destroy their career and very few are ever forgiven to grace themselves as a public entertainer ever again. There's a laundry list of men who have been accused of far smaller crimes than Park Shi Hoo who no longer are viable entertainers.
The fact that only 4 years after such a HUGE scandal, TV networks like KBS & Chosun are hiring him for their dramas speaks volumes to the validity of the woman's accusations and his guilt, especially in the South Korean #MeToo era. No network would want the drama of a scandal overshadowing their production time and time again. If the woman's case was verified, the public would never let him hear the end of it every time he showed his face on camera, regardless of if she received a payout or not. End of story.
Since everyone has moved on years ago.... so should the rest of us.
Watch the drama or not.... but don't use something that happened 7 years ago to trash something that involves far more than ONE MAN. The other actors, and the production crew, deserve to have their work acknowledged despite anyone's grudge over something that doesn't even affect them personally that tries to trash their hardwork and good efforts. The drama isn't about Park Shi Ho, but the ENTIRE CAST. So, get over it already.
Yep, there are victims. Yep, there are those who victim blame. Yep, there are those who are guilty. But there are also false accusations, and guys who aren't truly guilty of the crime.
I'll let South Koreans speak for the FACTS in this situation. South Korea is a pretty straightforwardly conservative country when it comes to these things. Sex trafficking, molka abuse, pornography, prostitution, and the like are all under the surface and exist, yes. However, the citizens at large do not take kindly to these things out in the public. In the current era, being caught treating a woman like trash will get you banished, & ostracized from community life. You'd better hide your face and never be acknowledged in public or citizens will have no fear to openly and publicly humiliate you.
Even more so, when it comes to celebrities at any level. They are held to an even HIGHER standard than the rest of us. Even a small infraction can completely destroy their career and very few are ever forgiven to grace themselves as a public entertainer ever again. There's a laundry list of men who have been accused of far smaller crimes than Park Shi Hoo who no longer are viable entertainers.
The fact that only 4 years after such a HUGE scandal, TV networks like KBS & Chosun are hiring him for their dramas speaks volumes to the validity of the woman's accusations and his guilt, especially in the South Korean #MeToo era. No network would want the drama of a scandal overshadowing their production time and time again. If the woman's case was verified, the public would never let him hear the end of it every time he showed his face on camera, regardless of if she received a payout or not. End of story.
Since everyone has moved on years ago.... so should the rest of us.
Watch the drama or not.... but don't use something that happened 7 years ago to trash something that involves far more than ONE MAN. The other actors, and the production crew, deserve to have their work acknowledged despite anyone's grudge over something that doesn't even affect them personally that tries to trash their hardwork and good efforts. The drama isn't about Park Shi Ho, but the ENTIRE CAST. So, get over it already.
As his sister said, please stay healthy, especially if you have comorbidities. He had been fighting this for a while, and who knows what the true results would have been if it wasn't for this disease. It's so disheartening these days. Stay vigilant and careful of yourselves and your family.
May Park Ji Hoon rest in peace and his family be consoled through each other and the love of their friends and loved ones.
Frankly, I’m very happy to see someone so very young able to move on and navigate the situation with dignity and grace. He reminds me of my own son. For those who want to cut+copy+paste an interview to push an agenda that says that grown ass men acting more like children, starting drama against teenagers new to their occupation, and potentially harming their careers didn’t have an agenda of their own going into Season 2, that’s your business.
BUT...
THIS:
~“ My schedule is tight and quite long. I have WhyRU the Series and Let’s Fight Ghost. I don’t think its appropriate to make them wait for me.”~
**was purely Saint being ultra respectful to them where he didn’t have to, and giving the production the EXACT ***OUT/EXCUSE*** they are using for the non-appearance.
Let’s NOT forget that he said BEFORE this comment:
~”I think if they want me to take part in the series, they would’ve contacted me before finishing the teaser.”~
There is NO WAY Saint was going to put himself back into the same position he got out of. He realized that the offer was only made because No Fandom=No Success. If there’s no sincerity in it, you know EXACTLY what you’re in for next.
Pretty grateful that he’s grown up and matured over this well. He’s not holding animosity. He gave them the soundbite they were looking for, and I have totes respect for this kind of class at his age! Besides, with his last BL drama, he’s showed the rest of them what your production is missing out on if the partners aren’t willing to invest in being part of the creative process and giving it all they have for their character, and having a director that’s completely invested in their cast. Supporting toxic productions does nothing to promote healthy BL drama depictions for the future. We don’t need problematic OTPs on-screen OR off-screen.... and some of these relationships are pretty freaking questionable. Right?
After Time Passes [Shigani Heuleul Dwien - BTOB & Yong Joon Hyung - Monstar OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsbvWkaQ-FY
Muyiyiya [**Rock Version**] - Byun Yo Han - Six Flying Dragons OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qts0GzidgM
Don't Come Telling Me Goodbye [Ibyeollo Ojima] - Eunha - Six Flying Dragons OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfDEd4SRLeY
Black Moon - Shin Min Ah - Arang and the Magistrate OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN3BpNJKbCM
Emergency Room [Eung Geubsil] - IZI - Delightful Girl Choon Hyang OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hC7hIeJSHo
Queen - Park Yong Suk - Delightful Girl Choon Hyang OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzOUAhsa_4E
Stay With Me - Punch/Chan Yeol - Goblin OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcKR0LPwoYs
Tears Are Falling [Tteoleojinda Nunmuli] - WAX - I Miss You OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NDtHCj2tlk
Sleepless Night - Punch/Crush - It's Okay, That's Love OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY_BWFOZQkI
You - Kang Seung Yoon - Love for a Thousand More OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJeH6-Tty7k
For Nothing [Sseuldeeobsi] - Han Hee Jun - On the Way to the Airport OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2tjKL8-k2M
That Woman - Baek Ji Young - Secret Garden OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaXPWhUDYe0
Tears Stain [Nunmuljari] - Yoon Sang Hyun - Secret Garden OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA44rhWu3mA
Here I Am - 4men feat. Mi - Secret Garden OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo3MplZXXg8
If You Come to Me [Geudaega Oneyo] - Lee Ga Eun - Shine or Go Crazy OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9y8RU5C348
Thai:
Break You Off Tonight - Mike D. Angelo - Full House OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN3JCrSZ-q0
***Taiwan:
Unstoppable Sun [Dang Bu Zhu De Tai Yang]- Aaron Yan - Just You OST
[Aaron sings it with such emotion he sounds perfect even live!]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MiRd6yISrg
Can We [Neng Bu Neng] - Jason Wang/Landy Wen - It Started With A Kiss OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsAwObrDwBs
Heard [Ting Jian] - Fang Ya Xian - It Started With A Kiss OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvZ_dq4oCBg&t=93s
The Unwanted Love [Duo Wu De Wo] - Aaron Yan - Fall In Love With Me OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLAAlM99VRk
Be Your Superman - Chun Biao Yan - They Kiss Again OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl2oSIZ3p_Q
***China:
Long Time No See [Hao Jiu Bu Jian] - Tang Yan - My Sunshine OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbQUEOu-aB8
What is Love [He Yi Ai Qing] - Wallace Chung - My Sunshine OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hup7QRFXroQ
Time Boils the Rain [Shi Jian Zhu Yu] - Wu Yi Fan [Kris Wu] - Tiny Times 3 OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oefsQJeI9hQ
Shouldn't [Bu Gai] - Jay Chou/A-Mei Chang - Ice Fantasy OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpLCCD490OM
Love Will Be Restored [Ai Hui Huan Yuan - Ka Suo's Theme Song]- Ye Huai Pei - Ice Fantasy OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD1vLjMaPm0
Love Like Cherry Blossoms [Ai Ru Ying - Ying Kong Shi's Theme Song] - Huang Yu Xun - Ice Fantasy OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMwlKMFT15w
Look [Kan] - Lu Hu - Story of Yanxi Palace OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pxRFhckJJA
Sighs of the Palace Walls [Hong Qiang Tan- Ending Theme Song] - Wen Kui - Story of Yanxi Palace OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O65e9c1yRQU
Waiting For You [Sheng Deng Ni - Opening Theme] - Qu Chu Xiao [Male Version **my preference cuz Chu Xiao just sings it so passionately** but Tia Ray's version is still beautiful as well] - Bloody Romance OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn0fD6_duWQ&list=WL&index=40&t=0s
One [Yi] - Cao Ge - Bloody Romance OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDHCv8KbJlw
One Step/Stand Alone [Du Bu] - Cui Zi Ge - Bloody Romance OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7kEW4XSFlQ
This is what I wrote a month ago regarding rating it a 7:
[Start]"...I watched to the very end hoping to feel relief at what I was experiencing as a wholly anti-climatic ending in the last 3 episodes but, alas, it didn't really happen. The ending was deflating.
My wish was they'd resolve the side characters a bit earlier, and clear up the reasonings for them being there sooner. Additionally, I wasn't really impressed with the resolution of her 1,000 year grudge.
The OTP was fine, but towards the end, even they lacked substance to their relationship.
It seemed like the drama went adrift and stammered around trying to figure out how it was gonna resolve everything. The poetic phrases to answer clear questions made absolutely no sense, and things just took place willy-nilly and nothing followed a universal law so why some could do one thing but others couldn't just made me confused. I wish it was much clearer in expressing the premises..." [End]
And as far as scripts only becoming more "elaborate", "sophisticated", & "detailed" recently, but "less inspired" seems off to my experience. Maybe you started watching K-dramas only recently? Or haven't watched as many as I have.
My "ALL TIME" stats are 13,617 episodes, 712 shows, & 240 movies, and there's likely some I missed to rate from between 2001-2006 that I watched. I remember quite a few older dramas quite fondly. They were both elaborate, detailed, the premise fully fleshed out, inspirational, & with the case of "romance", a passionate OTP.
I'll give you my examples of dramas I ranked from 8/10 to 10/10 back in the more *recent* history for you to ponder:
2011 & 2012: 1. Scent of a Woman, 2. City Hunter, 3. Arang and the Magistrate, 4. Queen In Hyun's Man, 5. Operation Proposal, and 6. Faith.
2013: 1. You Who Came from the Stars, 2. Two Weeks, 3. Nine: Nine Times Time Travel, 4. I Hear Your Voice, 5. The Master's Sun, and 6. Who Are You
2014: 1. Healer, 2. Incomplete Life 3. It's Okay, That's Love, 4. Pride & Prejudice, and 5. Pinocchio
2015: 1. Kill Me, Heal Me, 2. The Girl Who Sees Scents, and 3. Oh My Ghostess
2016: 1. A Beautiful Mind, & 2. Bring It On, Ghost
2017: 1. Circle, 2. Tomorrow With You, 3. While You Were Sleeping, 4. Chicago Typewriter, and 5. Black
Do you notice a pattern there??? I would say that a bit into 2015, the writing in K-dramas started to take a bit of a nosedive. Although I have a fair amount of dramas listed, I still do NOT think dramas in the last 5 years are AS elaborate, sophisticated, detailed, inspirational, passionate, and MOST IMPORTANTLY -- ENJOYABLE TO WATCH...than these dramas in more recent history. Nowadays you're hard pressed to find a show you're willing to stay up all night ONE MORE TIME, just to marathon REWATCHING it again, just to get back those Old School vibes. lol.
SAME!
We ALL used to stay up to all hours of the night then dragging are dead asses to work the next day because we just needed to know what happened next and couldn't stop ourselves. In the last 2 years, I think I've only done that a handful of times, and ironically, it was for Chinese dramas. I don't have had that kind of motivation for any K-drama since 2017.
It's seriously hard to pin-point it exactly. I think it's a bit of a mix bag, and different people hang their hats on different things.
One thing I can say, it's not because K-Dramas have become predictable or cliche. If that was the case, then I wouldn't marathon all night any Chinese dramas.
What for me seem to be the issues are really seriously lazy writing, muted romance or even non-existent romance, unsatisfying OTPs, bad acting, focus on Idol actors, and too serious of topics. They're not as light and airy as the used to be. I want sugar, and my OTPs should want sugar as well. Those romantic intense moments just aren't there as often anymore, or they gloss over the process.
What I will say that is "similar" is human nature. We've been told about the 7 Deadly Sins because, for the most part, evil/cruel/callous acts by humans pretty much stem from aspects of these. There are also various similarities between love and relationships. However, no human being has ever been exactly like another, so there will always be some divergence in plot.
So, what I'm saying is that I could come up with some "new" murder/mystery/suspense stories just by things that have happened irl. Humans are so infinite in their character makeup and motivations that they create stories that are most times better than fiction. In the USA, as an example, if you created a story of a Doomsday advocating couple vacationing in Hawaii while the rest of their family and Americans look for the children, and the accompanying drama and mystery that unfold when the fact this couple don't feel inclined to let even police authorities know where their "missing" children are at the moment, all I could think was, "this would make a fine movie...doesn't get more original then this right here...sad but true..."
As for "Disney" & "ABC" "dominating" viewership, that's honestly NOT true. The stat I'm talking about is for the person, the individual, the man himself, Walt Disney. His last Oscar was in 1959 for "Live Action Short" -- Grand Canyon, before he passed away in 1966. Over his lifetime he won 22 Academy Awards, and based on how many Disney films are translated in just about every language and beloved by millions the world over even into this day and age, it was deserved...
I only pointed out that Bong Joon Ho is the only other INDIVIDUAL, person, man, to accomplish an historical record comparable to Walt Disney himself. I'm not talking about corporations, so that rant has no place here.
It's hard enough to win an Oscar, American entertainers will tell you, let alone to earn the TRIPLE CROWN - Screenplay, Director, & Film. But 4 for one person is a feat of more than historical proportions.. this is beyond just history-making for South Korea... this became U.S. history-making as well.
Additionally, you might watch this professional explanation about the idea of 1 vs multiple opponents and the concept of the Law of Diminishing Returns. Having a 2nd degree black belt in taekwondo myself, and a son with a 3rd degree, and tell you with practice and experience, regular fighting is an act of controlled chaos and the more experience and control you have of the situation the better your outcoming, and that doesn't automatically mean that more people attacking will ALWAYS overpower the ones weaker in number. That's entirely dependent on variable factors, like their practice and skill level in similar situations. It's certain that no outcome is secure, but the better trained and experienced you are, regardless of numbers, gives you a higher percentage chance of success.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s7KfetTixQ
He ACKNOWLEDGES his OWN wrongdoings! Why can't you!!!??!!!
As for no one being found guilty, as you suggest, that's not true anymore now is it? As of November 29, 2019, Jung Joon Young was given a 6 year prison sentence and Choi Jong Hoon was given a 5 year prison sentence for their part in a gang-rape of a girl that they videotaped and which Jung Joon Young distributed to his "friends". Anyone who watches a CRIME such as gang-rape; knows the perpetrators; has the ability to discover the victim's identity; stays silent; and asks those people to send him girls he can have sex with is one thing and one thing only, a complicit sexual predator who thinks nothing of these things, and who, if he hasn't done the same thing, at least behind the scenes, condoned those kinds of actions by his friends.
If you like people like this, it most certainly reflects on you as a person and your morals. What you say after this can be weighted against those facts. Your comments have little merit. You can "like" and "support" whoever you want. There are women who seek out serial killers and marry them, for whatever their reasons may be....but normal human beings know that people like that have serious mental issues and nothing of respect to say and offer to the human race.
AGAIN, it really bothers me the whole cultural relativism, and there already exist nudist colonies...but CIVILIZED society, in which, YES, there is a difference and the WORLD as a whole differentiate it by calling those not 'THIRD WORLD', have decided long ago, for the respect and dignity of others, especially children, having sex in the streets like dogs is beneath humanity.
ALSO, it bothers me when people who try to tell you how "open-minded" they are, pop off without really FULLY reading the CONTEXT in which things are spoken. The CONTEXT being, there are approx. 241 countries/territories across the global. The United Nations OFFICIALLY recognizes 195, 193 of which are MEMBERS of the UN. Of those MEMBERS they have all agreed to sign the Universal Declaration of Human Rights...in doing so they have AGREED on THIS:
"....Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction...."
Thailand has agreed INTERNATIONALLY, as well as NATIONALLY that RAPE is a crime against humanity, and a criminal act within its own borders. Those ideas are enumerated in Thailand's Penal Code -- Thailand's Criminal Code Sections 0276-0281..but in a nutshell, if you RAPE someone and are convicted you're going to jail for between 4-20 years. ADDITIONALLY, WITHIN THE CULTURE OF THAILAND, enumerated in these CRIMINAL LAWS, it doesn't matter if there is consent, it's ALSO considered RAPE for a person of age to have sex with anyone under the age of 15!! Those are THAILAND'S LAWS... so I don't know who is telling you that Thailand ACCEPTS RAPE simply because their entertainment industry tries to portray it in some positive way... I'm AMERICAN and THIS is the reason I don't like watching WESTERN entertainment!! PERIOD!! Because the portrayal of immorality as unproblematic. It's been why I prefer to watch Asian dramas/movies because CULTURALLY that's not tolerated as much. Thailand's lakorns are an anomaly in this way. People in the nation like it, and it sells...just like HBO's Sopranos was a big hit and culturally those kinds of people exist in the USA-- mafia...but that doesn't make it NORMAL, ACCEPTABLE, or LEGAL.