This is how you do a bloody ending!!!! I’d high-five the whole crew but I heard you only do that if you’re…
I went to the comment section on MDL to see the shade and I wasn't disappointed haha The ending was very good yes, they gave us everything we needed but still left open room for the second season.
I like your analysis. If an actor is fundamentally uncomfortable doing scenes of m/m intimacy, he'd have to be…
It's totally fine, I'm glad you liked the expression. I agree that they do the sexual "eye f***" very well as you say, but also the romantic aspect of it as I said. These Chinese BL actors are tremendous actors. It's incredibly hard to portray this in the right way to let the viewers know what's up but at the same time don't trigger the censorship.
As to China unfortunately for now the censorship seems to be getting worse and worse, I think they're even more restrictive now than when the ban began. However even if South Korea doesn't change their cultural stance on homosexuality from night to day, which probably won't happen soon,, SK's entertainment industry might realize that BL (not implicit BL but actual BL) might be a very profitable business and start to produce more. Specially if Where Your Eyes Linger gets massive mainstream success. Lets see.
You know I have been saying that Talay has such great chemistry with both his partners he's keeping me busy from…
Oh I see. I had no idea about it. I was already thinking I had one more drama with Talay to watch haha He has however an impressive number of different works under his belt for a young actor. I'm glad he's getting more recognition now.
I like your analysis. If an actor is fundamentally uncomfortable doing scenes of m/m intimacy, he'd have to be…
I agree, hence even with no physical intimacy scenes, a good actor can transmit love and desire through their body language and gaze. This was not done in this series and they had much more freedom than any BL production in China.
Off topic: Imagine if China one day lifts their ban and these BL actors who mastered the art of eye f***** and transmitting love with their eyes and body language without intimate scenes, are finally allowed to display intimacy on screen. If they ever release the censored scenes from Advance Bravely, I can just start digging my grave and say goodbye.
I like your analysis. If an actor is fundamentally uncomfortable doing scenes of m/m intimacy, he'd have to be…
I agree, hence even with no physical intimacy scenes, a good actor can transmit love and desire through their body language and gaze. This was not done in this series and they had much more freedom than any BL production in China.
Off topic: Imagine if China one day lifts their ban and these BL actors who mastered the art of eye f***** and transmitting love with their eyes and body language without intimate scenes, are finally allowed to display intimacy on screen. If they ever release the censored scenes from Advance Bravely, I can just start digging my grave and say goodbye.
You know I have been saying that Talay has such great chemistry with both his partners he's keeping me busy from…
Yes, he always delivers!
I agree, he's too underrated at this point. I mean, he's the only Thai bl actor I know so far that has been in 2 BL airing at the same time portraying 2 different characters in 2 different ships. Maybe there were others, I just can't remember any. He's very versatile.
You know I have been saying that Talay has such great chemistry with both his partners he's keeping me busy from…
He really oozes charisma and man or woman he's always on top of his game. I don't believe though that we'll see him with that level of kissing in My Engineer or YYY, but he can for sure pull it off if required. Can't wait to see more of him!
You know I have been saying that Talay has such great chemistry with both his partners he's keeping me busy from…
Someone made this edit where it shows him in an Indian show he was in, and there he has intense scenes with a girl. He really has chemistry with everyone!
Teaser is out. It’s going to be an interesting episode (with the expected happy ending I’m sure.)
I know we'll have a second season and that it's hard to wrap up everything properly in just one episode, but I'm going to sue if the endings are not somehow happy lol
Interesting thoughts here. So I have a question for you. If a BL couple is not delivering the desired performance…
I agree that despite the lack of chemistry of the actors or uncomfortable, it's the directors' job and acting coaches to guide the actors in whatever way possible to display the desired chemistry and body language. As you say it'd be interesting to know what was the approach that the production team took. But if I had to bet, I'd say maybe a more hands off approach because if not, why did they make the choice of letting the high five pass and include it? Such as other directing and editing decisions where the body language didn't match the verbal language that also passed? Hard to say what happened. Someone say they didn't have workshops (or almost none) before beginning shooting. But maybe for newbies this is not ideal and a bad decision. Something to take into consideration in future productions. On the other hand there are actors with years of working together, workshops and everything else that still don't look comfortable or with chemistry, so hard to say what's at play.
Thanks for your throughout posting. I agree with all your views regarding seme-seme, but I have some additional…
Yes, I wanted to mention SunMork here too. They are sexually versatile and as you say Sun asked Mork if that night he wanted to be top or bottom, which was a breath of fresh air to me. But outside of the bedroom it's also hard to say if they follow an "uke/seme" stereotype psychology. Mork is usually more masculine/rough, and Sun more sofisticated and "feminine" as you said, but at the same time Sun takes more initiatives and is the one who courts Mork. So overall it's a dynamic different from the usual BL fiction and I love them for that.
As to KornKnock, they're both very masculine and no seme/uke dynamic out of the bedroom, and it worked very well anyways. In bed Korn is top yes, but even so, they both can dominate the other, though Korn usually ends up "overpowering" Knock.
In Why R U during the show they never specifically say, but I've read some tweets saying that the author said that though Fighter prefer being top in the bedroom and Tutor bottom, Fighter doesn't mind switching if Tutor wants to and vice versa. But I think it never happened. Outside of the bedroom I think Fighter is stereotypically more seme. Though I thought that sometimes Tutor/Saint was too overbearing and looked like he was fighting for dominance with Fighter instead of going with the flow.
There is also the case of TharnType. Where despite Tharn being exclusively top in bed and Type bottom, outside of the bedroom Type is very dominant and masculine and Tharn usually assumes a more submissive role.
In 2gether the series (I haven't read the full novel), though Sarawart is "more" seme, they are too masculine men and that's fine. It worked with KornKnock, but the issue for me wasn't that they were 2 masculine men, it was that their body language was "bro language" towards each other and not the body language of two men who love each other and are physically attracted to each other. This can be transmitted even without intimate scenes (example: Advance Bravely... all the intimacy censored by China but the way they looked at each other was pure love and desire). The director and crew should've taken action to guide them to transmit proper body language and chemistry if they weren't pulling it off. Unless the director thought that 2 young boyfriends who just start dating is perfectly normal to sleep 2m from each other with backs turn, high fives after getting back together and head pats after romantic declarations.
And I agree that characters in bed and outside of bed are sometimes "separate" entities. I like the complexity of certain characters and dynamics where they might act dominant and hard in certain situations but become softer and more submissive in others.
give The Shipper and Gameboys a try, they both just started!
Not wanting to go very offtopic but what are you thinking of those 2? I wasn't sure if The Shipper was going to be BL and was unsure about the body switching plot so I haven't watched yet.
The guy who plays Bon is a very handsome man though. One ought to follow the wisdom of the old saying: “A beautiful…
Yes, he has very expressive eyes and can be very sexy. Even on the show sometimes he looks at Duen as if he's about to eat him, and then Duen gets all panicky lol
You know I have been saying that Talay has such great chemistry with both his partners he's keeping me busy from…
May I ask what commercial? But you're right! He has chemistry with both partners. That is truly.a talent. Was there any other BL actor that had 2 BLs airing at the same time with 2 different partners? I can't remember any. I don't think it's very common in Thailand where many popular BL actors almost seem to be obligated to be stuck to only one ship forever instead of being able to move on from role to role and co-workers like in western entertainment for example. Talay is a true professional.
I loved this drama. The leads, their relationship, the chemistry. Yes, the story was a bit clunky sometimes and the ending scene was terrible, but we can blame it on the Chinese censorship. If we forget all it was really entertainment and their love was so beautiful. Now onto the novel to see how it was intended had it not been censored and abruptly shut down.
As to China unfortunately for now the censorship seems to be getting worse and worse, I think they're even more restrictive now than when the ban began. However even if South Korea doesn't change their cultural stance on homosexuality from night to day, which probably won't happen soon,, SK's entertainment industry might realize that BL (not implicit BL but actual BL) might be a very profitable business and start to produce more. Specially if Where Your Eyes Linger gets massive mainstream success. Lets see.
Off topic: Imagine if China one day lifts their ban and these BL actors who mastered the art of eye f***** and transmitting love with their eyes and body language without intimate scenes, are finally allowed to display intimacy on screen. If they ever release the censored scenes from Advance Bravely, I can just start digging my grave and say goodbye.
Off topic: Imagine if China one day lifts their ban and these BL actors who mastered the art of eye f***** and transmitting love with their eyes and body language without intimate scenes, are finally allowed to display intimacy on screen. If they ever release the censored scenes from Advance Bravely, I can just start digging my grave and say goodbye.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMc1W70m2z8
Some pics:
https://twitter.com/JoshuaManson5/status/1265278947715055616
It's not on his mydramalist filmography. I have no idea if it was released or not.
I agree, he's too underrated at this point. I mean, he's the only Thai bl actor I know so far that has been in 2 BL airing at the same time portraying 2 different characters in 2 different ships. Maybe there were others, I just can't remember any. He's very versatile.
https://twitter.com/talaying/status/1265598045334507520
As to KornKnock, they're both very masculine and no seme/uke dynamic out of the bedroom, and it worked very well anyways. In bed Korn is top yes, but even so, they both can dominate the other, though Korn usually ends up "overpowering" Knock.
In Why R U during the show they never specifically say, but I've read some tweets saying that the author said that though Fighter prefer being top in the bedroom and Tutor bottom, Fighter doesn't mind switching if Tutor wants to and vice versa. But I think it never happened. Outside of the bedroom I think Fighter is stereotypically more seme. Though I thought that sometimes Tutor/Saint was too overbearing and looked like he was fighting for dominance with Fighter instead of going with the flow.
There is also the case of TharnType. Where despite Tharn being exclusively top in bed and Type bottom, outside of the bedroom Type is very dominant and masculine and Tharn usually assumes a more submissive role.
In 2gether the series (I haven't read the full novel), though Sarawart is "more" seme, they are too masculine men and that's fine. It worked with KornKnock, but the issue for me wasn't that they were 2 masculine men, it was that their body language was "bro language" towards each other and not the body language of two men who love each other and are physically attracted to each other. This can be transmitted even without intimate scenes (example: Advance Bravely... all the intimacy censored by China but the way they looked at each other was pure love and desire). The director and crew should've taken action to guide them to transmit proper body language and chemistry if they weren't pulling it off. Unless the director thought that 2 young boyfriends who just start dating is perfectly normal to sleep 2m from each other with backs turn, high fives after getting back together and head pats after romantic declarations.
And I agree that characters in bed and outside of bed are sometimes "separate" entities. I like the complexity of certain characters and dynamics where they might act dominant and hard in certain situations but become softer and more submissive in others.
Sorry for the digression.