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She doesn’t know the father is involved so how can she be angry with him?
And she won’t tell her father to stop supporting the ML because:
1. That doesn’t make sense as the family’s power and position is closely intertwined with the ML
2. Her father won’t listen to her

She isn’t torturing the ML. She was grieving her father figure while married to his murderer. That would be complicated for most sane people. When she gets more info, she offers him the olive branch of telling her the truth but he won’t take it. Anyway, she’s not the one who broke the trust between them. Why should the victim be at fault? And why should she settle for less than she wants just because the perpetrator is begging for forgiveness but won’t do the work?

Nah, Cangcang isn’t similar to Xiao Feng at all. The only real similarity is they’re forced into marriage and have husbands who infantilise them but that’s about it. The cores of the characters are completely different. Cangcang is older and thus more mature than Xiao Feng and also less “willful”. She obeys her family once married and even acts in their interest. She has been and can deal with problems at a much higher level too, including scheming which Xiao Feng didn’t like to do. Cangcang is also a character with a growth arc rather than Xiao Feng’s corruption arc.
Anyway no role is ever a “shame”. PXR has said this herself. We may not understand the whys of it all but there are often multiple reasons for taking a role.

It’s the Dowager Empress’s maid. The Dowager Empress is of higher status than Cangcang due to seniority so the maid thought they could bully Cangcang but she proved them wrong.😂

The thing is he won’t give her the truth. People can give a million reasons for why he won’t give her the truth but he won’t give her the truth. Remember it’s not Cangcang who broke the trust between them. It’s Xiao Huan. And it’s Xiao Huan who wants back in her graces. She’s given him the first clue as to how to begin to earn it back but he won’t take it. Everyone keeps focussing on Cangcang’s responsibility for the relationship but what about Xiao Huan? Fine, he has other worries but so does Cangcang. Why are his worries worth more than hers?

And what no one gets is that by demanding the truth, Cangcang is trying to reconcile the situation. She understands he may have had reasons for killing her master and they may have been legitimate. A master holds an important spot in the martial arts world. They can be as important as a father. Why do you think Cangcang wanted her master to approve of Bai Chifan so much? It’s like getting approval from a dad. Killing him is like killing her dad. And with the cultural background of filial piety or family ties, she can’t get with her Master’s murderer without a legitimate reason otherwise it’s betraying him which is serious to a person who values people and family.

I don’t think it’s so much fixated that he killed her master. It’s more she wants the truth from the culprit. In this situation, her master is like her second father. She values people and relationships so him dying is like her dad dying. Even though everyone is telling her to move on, logically filial piety towards the master will make it hard to move on without a legitimate reason from Xiao Huan. That’s why she keeps asking the reason too.

It’s probably cause they seem to have turned off or down the filter so stuff that wouldn’t get picked up is now showing.

Right? These men wake up in the morning and start scheming. They go to bed scheming. I can’t stand it🙂‍↕️ And the only people calling Cangcang naive are the same scheming men trying to do things for “her own good”. I hope Xiao Huan wakes up from this club and stops infantilising her like the rest of her family. Only person taking my girl seriously are the other women.

It’s up to you but I think the key is to understand that both characters have their difficulties and flaws and that this is really an up and down relationship because of trust, respect/power, and toxic environment issues. It’s not a sugary or healthy ride.

A lot of the comments are negative because they assume the most important relationship a woman should have is with their romantic partner. If you believe that family and friends can be equally as important, you can understand part of the FL’s conflict better as well as see what she’s doing outside the romance.

She’s really levelled up.
About your question…
I never listen to talk about her not being popular because she seems to have a hidden fanbase in both China and overseas. I’ve been blown away by some of the stats I’ve seen for her. It’s just not the traditional diehard fanbase that producers look for.

I think she’s still with Deyang. Yehua was just for dramas. She’s probably okay as she’s increasing staff and said she’s gotten wider access to scripts after Blood River.

She’s been on “break” but she pushed a drama to do Sisters Who Make Waves so it’s not like she didn’t have anything going into the show. I think at this point for her, it’s about finding a good opportunity and chance to break through.

If they haven’t changed the storyline, neither are the final boss.

Yeah, there’s this weird hyper focus on the relationship not being perfect but the drama is actually showing us how complicated a relationship in the palace can be and how hard it can be to regain trust once it’s lost.

😂 lol, this is the first time I’ve seen someone trash her GMP performance. Beyond the tears, it’s pretty much a textbook level performance of a silly, white sweet character. Even haters and anti-fans don’t usually touch it.

Yeah, it’s really weird how people are reducing her down to the romance. Other than not currently being so into Xiao Huan because of the past and his lack of answers, she’s actually trying to be a good empress and daughter. She also hasn’t denied Xiao Huan when he really needs her. Everyone is putting the blame on her for the misunderstanding but it’s Xiao Huan who broke her trust and it’s Xiao Huan who won’t give her the truth.

Yup. It’s in the early part before she goes to Jurchen.

I saw the first episode. No matter what tricks Ling Xue Feng played, Xiao Huan still forced Cangcang to marry him. Yes, he wants to be king but why must Cangcang give up her freedom for it? Why is her freedom less important than Xiao Huan’s desire to be king?

It’s a messy couple and a messy situation. In the book they still have misunderstandings even though they’ve been together for years and have 5 kids😂 Their charm is watching them get back together because they really do love each other but are truly opposites attract.

They changed a lot of the book in the drama which is a good thing cause the book’s original plot was terrible🙂‍↕️That might be why I’m so lenient… I know what the script had to work with😅
I’ve read bits of the script though and things will eventually get better between Xiao Huan and Cangcang for awhile.

😭😭😭😭 D*mn, I really love this show. Episode 9 and 10 felt just like the book with the whiplash switch between sweetness and bitterness. But I think all the bitterness makes the sweet moments really sweet.

Glad to see Cangcang is still scheming😂 Gotta love the reverse quality control👍
And Xiao Ran is absolutely killing it in the acting department. She really levelled up again. The crying scenes are on another level and none of them are the same.

Yeah, this. It really wrecks the mood of watching the drama too. Do people really only want to watch 1 dimensional Mary Sue/Gary Stu dramas with vanilla relationships that have no development,transformation, or growth?
Subtle acting seems to be hard for some to pick up. But I think it’s because people only half watch shows and don’t pay enough attention.

It should be that. It was a plot point in the book too. The show gives it a better context but it’s still a really humiliating and hurtful experience for Cangcang.