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^^This. The show is clearly trying to give the audience both sides of the story but many people are disregarding Cangcang’s viewpoint.

I love this actor so much. He always plays the same type of character but it never stops being hilarious😂

But this is your understanding from an omnipresent perspective. Cangcang doesn’t have this and can only react within the confines of her own understanding. From her perspective, the only one lying to her continuously is Xiao Huan. And this response is ignoring the fact that she is seeking answers, possibly uncomfortable ones by going to the “enemy party” but Xiao Huan won’t give them. There can be paragraphs for why he won’t give them but it doesn’t negate the fact that he won’t give them. And as long as he is shifty about the situation then I think Cangcang is right to distrust him until she can get answers.

I really can’t stand the belief “well, he’s good to you” but it seems so prevalent in the comments here. This phrase is often used to gaslight and keep women in toxic situations, which Cangcang is most definitely is in. So what if Xiao Huan loves Cangcang? Does it negate the fact that he forced her into marriage when she was clearly unwilling? That such free spirited young woman will lose her freedom to spend the rest of her life in the palace bound by rules, restrictions, and his whims? Does it negate the fact that he uses Cangcang as a pawn? Or that even if he has his own reasons, he doesn’t respect Cangcang’s capabilities enough to tell her the truth?

And even if Xiao Huan is good to her, those are his own feelings. Just because he loves her doesn’t mean she owes him anything. People are applauding him protecting her in the palace but who forced her into such a situation in the first place? Why does she have to be grateful for her captivity? His love shouldn’t negate her own feelings. We can come up with paragraphs for the reason why but it doesn’t change the fact that Xiao Huan is hurting Cangcang and she should be allowed to acknowledge and react to that hurt. His love is true but the hurt is also true.

In the end, I think Cangcang just wants the truth. Her thought process and experience shouldn’t just be washed away because some people want her to be a “good wife, good mother” to the ML. From Cangcang’s perspective, her family has never really deceived her but Xiao Huan has been lying to her from their first meeting. When her family warned her not to trust him, she spoke up for him only to have him betray that trust. Won’t that make her wary of him in the future? Not to mention Cangcang is a straightforward person. “If Xiao Huan isn’t guilty, then why can’t he just tell the truth?” is probably her thought process. And with Xiao Huan’s resources and power it’s really not out of the realm of possibility for him to frame the Master.

She can’t be in the harem it seems. I think her role is some kind of priestess role so she can’t be in a relationship.

I like the opening song so much. It’s really pretty.

I wondered if the foster brother was subtly manipulating the situation. I want to think the reveal was so that Cangcang would let go of the master and cling to Xiao Huan like her father wants. But, the foster brother could also want to do the opposite.

She has doubts but I think that’s why she keeps asking Xiao Huan why did he kill the master. He’s been lying to her since they first met. So, she wants the truth from him. This is something I’ve always respected about Cangcang’s character. Whether people like it or not, she is not afraid of saying what she needs from Xiao Huan. Rather than sulking she tells him directly and she doesn’t let go until she gets it.

We have an omnipresent view but in her world the only one manipulating her from the time they met is Xiao Huan. He’s also the only one who has betrayed her trust. So why couldn’t he frame the master? It’s not actually outside of Xiao Huan’s abilities. If he was innocent, why would it be difficult for him to just tell her the truth? If he can’t then she will have her doubts.

This. And I think she wants the story from Xiao Huan himself. People are forgetting that when they first met, everyone was telling her not to trust Bai Chifan but she did and things ended up the way they did. She probably hasn’t forgotten that. In her eyes the only one who has been manipulating her this whole time is Xiao Huan. If that’s the case, then why wouldn’t he frame the master?

Yeah, she is. She grew up with him. Her backstory and plot is different in the show though (unless they cut it).

🤣🤣🤣 The moment I knew the relationship was gonna be messy, it was over for me too😂.

I’m waiting for the naysayers to move on to another show.😅 It’ll be quieter but I’m hoping the discussion can turn to plots, character analysis, or cultural insights, etc

Caught up to episode 8 and I’m loving it. Feels like the book in so many ways and the old fashion flavour is nice.

Does anyone think the puppet incense brainwashing scene was pretty cool? The acting was really good there.

And poor Zhong Lin😂 I can’t remember if she ends up with the Prince but she’s so cute chasing after Cangcang.

Seems like the proactive Cangcang has arrived! She’ll find out the truth herself. I can’t wait for the next episodes.

Red and black is also red😂Heard CVB is okay too.

It’s her duty as empress. Everyone is complaining about her being illogical and shirking responsibility but when she’s logical and being responsible people are complaining 😂

Thank you for the explanation. I wish there more of these type of comments. The symbolism is really beautiful.
梨花带雨 “pear blossoms in the rain” I’ve seen this expression translated many times but never knew the whole meaning as I’d only ever seen it used to describe crying scenes and just thought it meant a kind of tragic beauty. After reading your comment, I think it fits Cangcang. I can already see the changes in Cangcang. There is a quiet sadness around her now. I’m really looking forward to the rest of her story.

Dang!!! That’s awesome!!!!

Cangcang is such a joy😂

Yeah, in the book this is essentially their biggest issue and one they have to work on the most. I think the drama will do the same but because audiences are usually more biased towards men, they have to take it to the extreme to show how disturbing the situation is for the female lead.

I think it’s not a question of right and wrong. But of choices. The father would have cut off the dude’s finger no matter what and told her the husband did it. Showing it to her is excessive but the ML seems to think it’s better that she hate him as an “outsider” than have to deal with the fallout of learning your relatives are scumbags. It also provides the cover that the emperor is cruel to the empress and doesn’t like her which serves as a secondary layer of protection.

It’s uncomfortable in the first episodes but what the show is trying to do is balance some of the flaws of the book. These two have a sort of tit for tat relationship when it comes to hurting each other. If the show went the route of emotional hurt like in the book people might not get the ML’s flaw and think the FL is lashing out for no reason.