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Yes, I think part of the problem people are having is they think they have to agree but I don’t think it’s about agreeing with what is happening but understanding what is happening and how it has an effect on all the characters. The complications and frustrations are necessary to see the beauty of the characters doing their best to live within the restrictions of their roles.

She’s already at odds with her father when the novel starts.

Why is no one talking about how Cangcang spun that maid’s comment? I really wasn’t expecting her to use it to say the maid was calling the Dowager Empress fat😂😂😂

He’s not really crazy. His hands are tied in the situation.

I really like that there’s basically no filters. You can see the nuances of expression better. It’s pretty much everyone’s natural beauty and gives the story a more human feel.

Yeah, Xiao Huan’s homework in this show is he needs to let people in and trust them. He can’t do it alone. It begins with Cangcang and gradually spreads to other people.

Rating by episode is also important.

Its context. Cdramas from IPs are like this. There’s often a backstory that only those who’ve read the source material will get and that the drama plays to and wants to attract.

And what frustrates you about the ML’s treatment of the FL is entirely the point. They want you to see the uselessness of his noble idiocy so you can understand how ridiculous it is and its effect on Cangcang. Otherwise Cangcang will be seen as ungrateful and unreasonable. She’s already being criticised in the comments despite a more balanced story.

And the brothers have had years of bad blood and people manipulating their relationship. His brother is a threat no matter the relationship and has to be dealt with carefully. Love and Crown is indeed a good title for this show because it is showing how hard the balance between the two can be.

Because he realises she’s not like her dad and grows to like her. She’s also a useful chess piece and he can get things done by marrying her. One of his biggest adversaries is her father and although they’re both gambling with her, he can use her to get her father to do certain things.

He won’t tell her about the Master probably because he doesn’t want to cause conflict in her heart.

She is both powerful and not powerful. She has her dad as her backing which is a certain level of power in that she can be Empress but she’s a junior to the Dowager Empress so she has less power in the harem and politics for now and she probably won’t really get any unless she starts networking and building connections in the palace or has a kid.

No point in reading the novel tbh. The drama is leagues better imo.

It’s how it is in the book. It’s a common trope in C-ent and basically the ML’s biggest flaw. In the book the FL constantly challenged this behaviour. I feel Cangcang in the show will too but it’s showing the audience the consequences of this behaviour on Cangcang probably so they can understand her actions later on. Some people are trying to spin the narrative that book Cangcang’s character was criticised because she was naive but that’s wrong.Book Cangcang was criticised mostly because she was seen as illogical and ungrateful to the male lead who appears in the book as a green flag. The show is actually taking a more nuanced approach.

I think for people who don’t like misunderstandings or imperfect characters, this probably isn’t the show for them yet or possibly at all. The charm of the book is really these two imperfect people trying build a workable relationship for themselves despite the machinations of the court. So, the book and it seems the drama are focused on the growth of both of the characters and the relationship. Rumors, slander, and tricks have always been weapons used in court in the real world and misunderstandings were entirely the point. So, there will be misunderstandings especially in a setting like Love and Crown where there are powerful characters relying on that misinformation.

Honestly, the show is so much better than the book. There’s a lot of content that was incoherent such as the Lingbi sect and Cangcang’s acceptance of the marriage that they’ve made coherent. They also made Cangcang’s dad’s storyline more complete. And it seems they will fill out Du Tingxin’s storyline as well. The scheming and mind games were only hinted at in the book and sometimes didn’t make sense but it seems they’ve cleaned them up as well.

One thing I also appreciate is that I feel the story is balancing the complication of the relationship well. It shows that many of their more hurtful actions are often influenced by the outside world but deep down they still love each other. For me, it has the feeling of the book. I feel Cangcang’s sadness and understand her lashing out and at the same time I understand Xiao Huan’s helplessness but also see his overprotective nature and his desire to let her be as free as she can be within this.

That’s not being naive that’s being kept in the dark. 😅Remember she doesn’t have backing in the harem nor is she long established so she can’t use those avenues. It also seems she’s been separated from her Fenglai Pavilion contacts by entering the palace. That only leaves Xiao Huan and her family who are definitely going to lie to her.

Yeah, it’s super weird that people want her to turn on her family so easily. Xiao Huan also lied to her from the start so it’ll be even harder for her to believe him over her family.

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Congrats to the show hitting 8000 on Youku’s heat index!
Thank you to everyone who commented or left a like on social media, watched the show on YouTube, Youku, Netflix, and Viki, and participated in the barrage on the Youku app. You’re awesome 🎉

It’s always sold itself as a melodrama.

Meh, I haven’t cared about MDL ratings in years. MDL has a certain formula it likes and MDL ratings basically have no meaning in China. I only care about the heat index, Douban score, and playback volume.
There’s also two directors and it seems they have filmed different parts.

I heard some of the more recent Huanrui dramas were going for a throwback feeling. They want people to feel a bit like they’re watching an older drama.

The misogyny has gotten really bad in the last few years and I don’t get why. Some spaces are absolutely toxic. Hopefully this space won’t get that bad.
It’s wild that people are criticising Cangcang when she’s literally fighting alongside the male lead.