I guess those who are in mainly for the thrill and action, to watch zombies on a blood quest and people getting bitten everywhere, to be on edge to see who would turn, who would survive and all, may not like this show (yet). Personally I like that this show seems to have a fresh approach with more touch of ‘realism’ than some other dramas of the same or similar genres that I’ve seen (not saying that it's better, just refreshing).
That’s to say it doesn’t jump right in with a massive outbreak or give us only a quick glimpse of the normal life before things get out of hand. Instead, the first two episodes pretty much depict life amid/post Covid and dig into what’s going on behind the scenes with the military and police force already on the lookout for those infected with the new virus, investigating possible sources and trying to get things under control, though of course we don’t know yet whether the military is behind it all and who's the bad guy here.
On a different note, which is no big deal, but it bugged me just a little bit that it’s 21st century and no one cared to bring up the term ‘zombie’. I mean it wouldn’t hurt to have at least one character pick up on the fact that those infected are acting like zombies in movies and mention it, would it? But yeah, we have rabies-like.
Well yeah, even high quality realistic medical shows like The good doctor has its flaws and not all of its medical related details are proven scientific facts.
I dropped Sisyphus, tried hard to press on but couldn't. I just got bored.
Yep, that was insane. But isn’t it how the character is portrayed? Sure he isn’t the sanest person but he also isn’t the only mad doctor out there is he? No I’m not rooting for his madness or lack of morality but I’m indeed curious to see where this is going.
I admit there were a few moments that had me roll my eyes and scratch my head thinking maybe they should have done their homework more thoroughly. But I guess due to the short 6-episode format, the writer and production crew tried to jam pack far more plot points and events than one episode could handle neatly without faults. Say, the hallucination where the girl was telling him his son was alive and he suddenly believed her, if the series were longer with more episodes, I bet we would have been more convinced if we had been showed that the same hallucination repeated a few times, he had some doubts, did more self-talk and finally gave in. But 6 episodes wouldn’t really allow much time for that I guess.
Even with my limited science knowledge, I don’t usually have super high tolerance for nonsense and absurdity even when it comes to sci-fis. With this show though, despite some flimsy points, for me, its first episode wasn’t that bad and was still a fun watch. Also, we just had one episode out so I’d shrug it off as ‘drama logic’ for now.
I also double checked, and here is what he was recording 'The experiment was successful because the mouse died. There can be memory retrieval only if the brain sync subject is deceased'. The cause of its death wasn't stated, was it? So could be due to anything really. It definitely lacks clarity here, one way or another but I don't think they wanted us to believe that those experiments would cause death, though I wouldn't dismiss that possibility either.
I don't think the subject would die when the brain sync happens. In other words, the transfer doesn't cause death, it's the way around: only when the subject dies does the transfer happen. That's why he needs corpses for further experiments.
That didn't explain why he did what he did on his wife though. I think it'd have been better explained/more plausible if a brain death, not necessarily death per se, was the condition for the sync to work 'cause it seemed to be the case that his wife was brain dead. Or maybe that was the intended message but they failed to deliver.
Covid propaganda? Or is the pandemic something else?
I had similar questions after watching the pilot seeing how they brought up Covid a few times and referred to that drug thingy. I guess the next eps will tell us more.
I'm falling in love with HHJ and PHS's characters already. Love their bond too. Didn't really expect romance going in but what a nice surprise to see the potential and get the butterflies.
Love how Lee Hwi's people and the trio are so protective of her/him as she is of them. And to be honest, I don't care much about the romance between the two leads, though generally it's quite delightful to watch. But it's because I like all four of them, would love to see more of their growing bond and them fighting against and standing up to those bastards, both together and in their own way.
Criminal UK is actually one of the four, the rest are Criminal Germany, France and Spain. I watched them all quite some time ago so can't recall much now (had to flick through the list on Netflix for some cues, ha!).
So, none from France and Spain stood out for me (doesn’t necessarily mean they were bad, but I guess I wasn’t quite impressed). I enjoyed most of Criminal UK and Germany though. Edgar (UK S1), Julia (UK S2), Jochen and Claudia (Germany) would be my top picks, in no particular order. I’m not sure what sort of stories would interest you so maybe you can have a quick look at the plot summaries and decide for yourself.
While we're at it, if you like crime series based on true stories (drama, not docuseries), I'd recommend Unbelievable (warning: it's about rape, some scenes can be disturbing; what I liked most: how the female detectives believed the victim when no one else did, joined hands, persistently fought for justice and made it happen) and Manhunt: Unabomber (what I liked most: forensic linguistics or criminal profiling based on their language, it's like playing word games, and the controversial issue behind the crime, as the convicted, I quote from wiki 'was a mathematics prodigy, but abandoned his academic career in 1969 to pursue a primitive life' then 'witnessed the destruction of the wilderness surrounding his cabin and concluded that living in nature was becoming impossible. He resolved to fight industrialization and its destruction of nature through terrorism'.
Interesting title for a thriller. Can't wait to decipher its message and find happiness in the face of a deadly virus. Now, that hits too close to reality.
True, you brought up some very interesting points there. There’s a lot to think about and a lot to take away from this but speaking of justice, I have to say that as much as I wanted it for Alex, I appreciated the realism and harsh reality the episode explored and tried to show us. Its ending is one of those that would leave us feeling disappointed and frustrated for sure but it’s a reality check and will make you think long afterwards.
Anyway, amid all this, let's hope KSH is holding up okay and will be recovered, hopefully sooner than later.
Yesss that interrogator got on my nerves too. So much for representing and serving justice.
In cases like these, like Alex said, being cleared of charges is not good enough, and an official statement is needed, otherwise people will keep talking (happening to KSH now isn't it? Different situation but still), saying he somehow got away with it and because 'this sh** sticks'.
The bit where Alex demanded 'You come back and you fix it'...'You put the furniture back' broke me. They can't undo what happened and the damage is done but they could at least attempt to 'put the furniture back'. Unfortunately they won't and no true justice is served.
Agree KSH would absolutely kill it if he plays such roles.
I hope you'll like it! Just to clarify, I was referring to a specific episode (S2.E2: Alex), not the whole series when speaking of false accusations and the bias against men in cases where victims are mostly women.
A heads-up though, that some people find the series boring as all episodes are set entirely within an interrogation room so it's quite slow paced and literally all talk, no action. If it's not your thing, you can watch that episode stand alone (Kit Harington was amazing in there, also the ep got 9.1/10 on imdb)
When the news, or shall I say, rumours first came out that KSH forced his ex to get an abortion, I said a few things here on MDL with one of the main points being, I quote, ‘the world is already too chaotic, imagine what it would become if we all believe in rumours and unverified sources so blindly? Imagine if that post targeted you or someone close to you, would you have reacted the same way? I'm all for victims of abuse to come forward but not in such a way that many people would have a hard time believing and giving credit for.’
I wasn’t trying to defend KSH or dismiss concerns about women’s health and safety, just speaking what I believed was common sense. Some people tend to jump to conclusions too quickly and don’t seem to understand that men can be victims of abuse/manipulation/domestic violence too. But I knew in this case, not everyone criticising KSH did it out of hate. Albeit too quick to judge, they were just fighting for (their version of) justice, or so they believed. I'm glad KSH is now cleared of the allegations. I guess we all have learned a thing or two from this ordeal.
On a side note, if you’re interested in series related to these types of issues (and if you like/don't mind that everything is set within the confines of an interrogation room), I highly recommend you to watch Criminal UK (S2E2: Alex) available on Netflix, if you haven’t already. It’s a rape case, but relatable. It explores possible consequences of false allegations, how damaging it can be to someone’s life and how the public perception is often biased due to societal conditioning, potentially leading to one’s reputation being ruined. I’d say the last 10 minutes or so of the episode hit you the hardest, much harder for me now after all this and seeing how people have perceived and reacted to some unverified anonymous accusations.
That’s to say it doesn’t jump right in with a massive outbreak or give us only a quick glimpse of the normal life before things get out of hand. Instead, the first two episodes pretty much depict life amid/post Covid and dig into what’s going on behind the scenes with the military and police force already on the lookout for those infected with the new virus, investigating possible sources and trying to get things under control, though of course we don’t know yet whether the military is behind it all and who's the bad guy here.
On a different note, which is no big deal, but it bugged me just a little bit that it’s 21st century and no one cared to bring up the term ‘zombie’. I mean it wouldn’t hurt to have at least one character pick up on the fact that those infected are acting like zombies in movies and mention it, would it? But yeah, we have rabies-like.
I dropped Sisyphus, tried hard to press on but couldn't. I just got bored.
I admit there were a few moments that had me roll my eyes and scratch my head thinking maybe they should have done their homework more thoroughly. But I guess due to the short 6-episode format, the writer and production crew tried to jam pack far more plot points and events than one episode could handle neatly without faults. Say, the hallucination where the girl was telling him his son was alive and he suddenly believed her, if the series were longer with more episodes, I bet we would have been more convinced if we had been showed that the same hallucination repeated a few times, he had some doubts, did more self-talk and finally gave in. But 6 episodes wouldn’t really allow much time for that I guess.
Even with my limited science knowledge, I don’t usually have super high tolerance for nonsense and absurdity even when it comes to sci-fis. With this show though, despite some flimsy points, for me, its first episode wasn’t that bad and was still a fun watch. Also, we just had one episode out so I’d shrug it off as ‘drama logic’ for now.
That didn't explain why he did what he did on his wife though. I think it'd have been better explained/more plausible if a brain death, not necessarily death per se, was the condition for the sync to work 'cause it seemed to be the case that his wife was brain dead. Or maybe that was the intended message but they failed to deliver.
Also, glad to see Yoo Teo in the cast. I've always wanted to see more of him.
Bonus point: Lee Sun Kyun's voice is to die for.
Criminal UK is actually one of the four, the rest are Criminal Germany, France and Spain. I watched them all quite some time ago so can't recall much now (had to flick through the list on Netflix for some cues, ha!).
So, none from France and Spain stood out for me (doesn’t necessarily mean they were bad, but I guess I wasn’t quite impressed). I enjoyed most of Criminal UK and Germany though. Edgar (UK S1), Julia (UK S2), Jochen and Claudia (Germany) would be my top picks, in no particular order. I’m not sure what sort of stories would interest you so maybe you can have a quick look at the plot summaries and decide for yourself.
While we're at it, if you like crime series based on true stories (drama, not docuseries), I'd recommend Unbelievable (warning: it's about rape, some scenes can be disturbing; what I liked most: how the female detectives believed the victim when no one else did, joined hands, persistently fought for justice and made it happen) and Manhunt: Unabomber (what I liked most: forensic linguistics or criminal profiling based on their language, it's like playing word games, and the controversial issue behind the crime, as the convicted, I quote from wiki 'was a mathematics prodigy, but abandoned his academic career in 1969 to pursue a primitive life' then 'witnessed the destruction of the wilderness surrounding his cabin and concluded that living in nature was becoming impossible. He resolved to fight industrialization and its destruction of nature through terrorism'.
Hope this helps!
Anyway, amid all this, let's hope KSH is holding up okay and will be recovered, hopefully sooner than later.
In cases like these, like Alex said, being cleared of charges is not good enough, and an official statement is needed, otherwise people will keep talking (happening to KSH now isn't it? Different situation but still), saying he somehow got away with it and because 'this sh** sticks'.
The bit where Alex demanded 'You come back and you fix it'...'You put the furniture back' broke me. They can't undo what happened and the damage is done but they could at least attempt to 'put the furniture back'. Unfortunately they won't and no true justice is served.
Agree KSH would absolutely kill it if he plays such roles.
Just to clarify, I was referring to a specific episode (S2.E2: Alex), not the whole series when speaking of false accusations and the bias against men in cases where victims are mostly women.
A heads-up though, that some people find the series boring as all episodes are set entirely within an interrogation room so it's quite slow paced and literally all talk, no action. If it's not your thing, you can watch that episode stand alone (Kit Harington was amazing in there, also the ep got 9.1/10 on imdb)
I wasn’t trying to defend KSH or dismiss concerns about women’s health and safety, just speaking what I believed was common sense. Some people tend to jump to conclusions too quickly and don’t seem to understand that men can be victims of abuse/manipulation/domestic violence too. But I knew in this case, not everyone criticising KSH did it out of hate. Albeit too quick to judge, they were just fighting for (their version of) justice, or so they believed. I'm glad KSH is now cleared of the allegations. I guess we all have learned a thing or two from this ordeal.
On a side note, if you’re interested in series related to these types of issues (and if you like/don't mind that everything is set within the confines of an interrogation room), I highly recommend you to watch Criminal UK (S2E2: Alex) available on Netflix, if you haven’t already. It’s a rape case, but relatable. It explores possible consequences of false allegations, how damaging it can be to someone’s life and how the public perception is often biased due to societal conditioning, potentially leading to one’s reputation being ruined. I’d say the last 10 minutes or so of the episode hit you the hardest, much harder for me now after all this and seeing how people have perceived and reacted to some unverified anonymous accusations.