All the mentors's faces, they're like, what did I just participate in. And Eric rubbing his head because the results…
He really was one of the few (along some other contestants and the fun sports moments) highlights of this show. Itās a sad situation but at the same a funny one, to see the same surprises and disappointment on the mentorās faces that the fans feel.
I guess the hope we have left for a good final ranking lies in Universe League, although I still donāt fully understand how that show works (the teams and the bench, and the exchanges modeled after how sports teams work).
Just to give some perspective, if Guanwoo Yinghao and Jijun didnāt withdrawā¦ letās say at least two of the would have made it into the debut lineup, which means Donghwa, current 9th place and potentially Zai would have been out. Interesting
Uuuhh.. I donāt know, I feel like Xin Che shouldnāt be in the debut lineupā¦ I have no idea how he is going to keep up on stage with people like for example Junhyuk who is very expressive (dance-wise). It seems to be popular in recent survival shows, visuals over talent. Theyāll have to train a lot before debuting officiallyā¦
At least, from what I know, the group name is better than the one from Project 7šš and they have both vocalists and dancers + one good rapper in their lineup which is pretty promising.
I know nothing about this dude Xu Shihuan (Iāve seen the show, but honestly I literally never paid attention to him), but as there are other people that Iād rather see in the final lineup, I canāt say Iām pleased with his ranking.
Anyway, even now, I think the paid voting system and all these benefits (like in some game) were a big mistake from the start, itās not fair when you can more buy votes if you want and you can pay a lot. But I wish there wonāt be any voting controversy, only because I really donāt want Hangyul to go through that again.
Voting for visual over talent isquite common... but the paidvotes and benefits aren't. I believeit's a Chinese…
Of course fans shouldnāt have ALL the āpowerā, most of us donāt have much professional knowledge of dancing, singing and being an idol, which is definitely needed to train and evaluate contestants. Some fans have more unique preferences, than others and some might vote for visual, over talent, like in the case of this show.
I'm really disliking these voting methods anyone else? Like if you're rich you can boost your favs to the top?…
Voting for visual over talent is quite common... but the paid votes and benefits aren't. I believe it's a Chinese survival show thing, I've never encountered this many paid votes/ranking boosting gifts in Korean shows voting systems. Idol survival shows like that, were banned in China, among others because of voting controversies and related food waste. Fans should be able to vote, because judges may be biased too, and after all fans are who the group will be performing for, but that voting must be done in a better controlled way, without weird sponsorships. They should have stopped at making people who have premium vip or vip accounts on i q i y i app have a bit more votes to give at once, than people who have regular accounts, instead of having all these weird benefits that you can literally buy votes with. Otherwise, itās not a fair votingā¦
Uhā¦ I am glad for Minwook..? Am I? Iām happy he made it, heās not really an all rounder, I hope itāll turn out to be beneficial for him. And Iām happy for Ma JingXiang, Iāve known him since Boys Planet, I know he isnāt excellent but I like him nonetheless. Besides itās nice to see a Chinese contestant debut as po01 yet again, although itās not as legendary (it has been brought to my attention that Scool and Make Mate 1 has a Chinese po1 which is nice. Some of these shows, like Starling Boys or Scool are a direct collaboration with China/Taiwan and there are more contestants from that regions too so itās creating more possibilities).
But the ranking isā¦ from what Iāve seen on the show, Kyougbae and Yeojun are good, but what is that 7th place?? Kim Sihun should have been 7th! What was the difference in their votes?
What Iām thinking isā¦ how is this group gonna function? No vocalists? In 5th gen high notes are important, vocals have always been important whether we want it or not. I guess theyāll have to prepare a lot before debuting, but they canāt debut too late because theyād lose āmomentumā.
Lastly, the group name is hmmmā¦ letās say, interesting. Yeah, I have no idea where they come up with these names. I felt bad for Zb1 when their name was announced but now, I actually think it sounds not that bad, itās more compact, better as a name for a kpop group.
Anyway, I think Iām going to casually tune in when they debut. Support their activities more at the beginning. I feel like after all, Iām actually going to end up more focused on the fantasy boys and bae173 members left after these survival shows.
Oh, well, Iām not informed when it comes to ratings. I donāt really rate anything here because Iām too indecisive. But still, if 7 is bad then something closer to 5 would be even worse, so itās good that itās not it..?
Well, there is a serious lack of dialogue in the relationship. It's like they are obsessed with doing what each…
Oh, surely. But when I thought about it, if I were him Iād probably feel fed up with his wife too. I donāt think that pulling the divorce move at that moment was a good decision and I feel like he is wrongly blaming her so for the accident, but some of his other frustrations I kinda understand.
By the way, they really should just talk calmly and honestly with each other (I know how hard that is sometimes). All would have been better, if they did. He doesnāt want to try and understand her, and thatās why they keep arguing. She thinks that she understands everything, because of that sheās doesnāt realize that she might have a wrong approach towards certain things, and thatās why there are conflicts. Such a messā¦
When it comes to his career, yeah I agree that heās a mess. And heās blaming her for too long for what happened…
He isnāt a good husband, but she isnāt being that good of a wife either. Sheās deciding about everything on her own, and taking action without discussing anything with him (sheās probably just feeling responsible for everything and trying to deal with it efficiently but this feelings actually drove her to doing irresponsible things, and sheās not realizing that they should cooperate more + because of that sheās putting too much onto herself, it only stresses her out instead of making her feel and look like she has the situation under control, which was the effect she wanted to achieve).
She seems to categorically not know how to deal with her sonās disability (I feel like she still struggles to accept it, so she treats him as if he really struggled with that too (it was probably really hard for him at the beginning, an accident and a drastic change in his life + seeing how his family is connected to music), while heās at least partially moved on and just trying to manage life as best as he can, with only issues being the recent bullying at school and his parents arguing so much - solutions of these problems are out of his control regardless of his disability) and she thinks that the best thing to do is to simply orchestrate the boy's entire life as if he were incapable. (you see, it isn't a good way of thinking, is it?)
She also tried to bribe/pay his classmate with real money (it wasnāt an official deal and with a unreasonably big amount of money at that) to assist her son, which was irresponsible and inappropriate thing to do as an adult.
The father is at least less controlling towards their son and seems to try more to listen to what he has to say (the mother literally just shuts him up in one scene, it was a pretty sweet conversation and I donāt think that her intentions are bad but the outcome might be not good).
Badmouthing your partner in front of your child is bad, I completely agree with you on that. And that spontaneous escapade, to sleep somewhere else for the night as a form of protest/showing anger was a pretty stupid, irresponsible idea but I canāt say that I havenāt seen something like that in real life, and I donāt find it overly bad/outrageous.
The parents main problem is lack of communication in their relationship/family, misplaced anger and unresolved guilt. Theyāre both full of flaws, I hope that theyāll get a decent character development (but Iām a bit worried if itāll happen, we only have 10 episodes left and so many other plots).
Sorry, that this reply is so long. I didn't think that it'd be this long, when I was writing.
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I have no idea how he is going to keep up on stage with people like for example Junhyuk who is very expressive (dance-wise). It seems to be popular in recent survival shows, visuals over talent. Theyāll have to train a lot before debuting officiallyā¦
At least, from what I know, the group name is better than the one from Project 7šš and they have both vocalists and dancers + one good rapper in their lineup which is pretty promising.
I know nothing about this dude Xu Shihuan (Iāve seen the show, but honestly I literally never paid attention to him), but as there are other people that Iād rather see in the final lineup, I canāt say Iām pleased with his ranking.
Anyway, even now, I think the paid voting system and all these benefits (like in some game) were a big mistake from the start, itās not fair when you can more buy votes if you want and you can pay a lot.
But I wish there wonāt be any voting controversy, only because I really donāt want Hangyul to go through that again.
quite common... but the paid
votes and benefits aren't. I believe
it's a Chinese survival show thing,
I've never encountered this many
paid votes/ranking boosting gifts in Korean shows voting systems.
Idol survival shows like that, were banned in China, among others because of voting controversies and related food waste.
Fans should be able to vote, because judges may be biased too, and after all fans are who the group will be performing for, but that voting must be done in a better controlled way, without weird sponsorships.
They should have stopped at making people who have premium vip or vip accounts on i q i y i app have a bit more votes to give at once, than people who have regular accounts, instead of having all these weird benefits that you can literally buy votes with. Otherwise, itās not a fair votingā¦
Iām happy he made it, heās not really an all rounder, I hope itāll turn out to be beneficial for him.
And Iām happy for Ma JingXiang, Iāve known him since Boys Planet, I know he isnāt excellent but I like him nonetheless. Besides itās nice to see a Chinese contestant debut as po01 yet again, although itās not as legendary (it has been brought to my attention that Scool and Make Mate 1 has a Chinese po1 which is nice. Some of these shows, like Starling Boys or Scool are a direct collaboration with China/Taiwan and there are more contestants from that regions too so itās creating more possibilities).
But the ranking isā¦ from what Iāve seen on the show, Kyougbae and Yeojun are good, but what is that 7th place??
Kim Sihun should have been 7th! What was the difference in their votes?
What Iām thinking isā¦ how is this group gonna function? No vocalists? In 5th gen high notes are important, vocals have always been important whether we want it or not.
I guess theyāll have to prepare a lot before debuting, but they canāt debut too late because theyād lose āmomentumā.
Lastly, the group name is hmmmā¦ letās say, interesting.
Yeah, I have no idea where they come up with these names.
I felt bad for Zb1 when their name was announced but now, I actually think it sounds not that bad, itās more compact, better as a name for a kpop group.
Anyway, I think Iām going to casually tune in when they debut. Support their activities more at the beginning.
I feel like after all, Iām actually going to end up more focused on the fantasy boys and bae173 members left after these survival shows.
I feel like he is wrongly blaming her so for the accident, but some of his other frustrations I kinda understand.
By the way, they really should just talk calmly and honestly with each other (I know how hard that is sometimes). All would have been better, if they did.
He doesnāt want to try and understand her, and thatās why they keep arguing.
She thinks that she understands everything, because of that sheās doesnāt realize that she might have a wrong approach towards certain things, and thatās why there are conflicts.
Such a messā¦
She seems to categorically not know how to deal with her sonās disability (I feel like she still struggles to accept it, so she treats him as if he really struggled with that too (it was probably really hard for him at the beginning, an accident and a drastic change in his life + seeing how his family is connected to music), while heās at least partially moved on and just trying to manage life as best as he can, with only issues being the recent bullying at school and his parents arguing so much - solutions of these problems are out of his control regardless of his disability) and she thinks that the best thing to do is to simply orchestrate the boy's entire life as if he were incapable.
(you see, it isn't a good way of thinking, is it?)
She also tried to bribe/pay his classmate with real money (it wasnāt an official deal and with a unreasonably big amount of money at that) to assist her son, which was irresponsible and inappropriate thing to do as an adult.
The father is at least less controlling towards their son and seems to try more to listen to what he has to say (the mother literally just shuts him up in one scene, it was a pretty sweet conversation and I donāt think that her intentions are bad but the outcome might be not good).
Badmouthing your partner in front of your child is bad, I completely agree with you on that. And that spontaneous escapade, to sleep somewhere else for the night as a form of protest/showing anger was a pretty stupid, irresponsible idea but I canāt say that I havenāt seen something like that in real life, and I donāt find it overly bad/outrageous.
The parents main problem is lack of communication in their relationship/family, misplaced anger and unresolved guilt.
Theyāre both full of flaws, I hope that theyāll get a decent character development (but Iām a bit worried if itāll happen, we only have 10 episodes left and so many other plots).
Sorry, that this reply is so long. I didn't think that it'd be this long, when I was writing.