Sigh • Trin is Thai, from a very affluent family, who studied abroad in France during the Cold War and returned…
The plot is people fighting for freedom in the 70s, juts like Moonlight (the movie) plot is a afro american boy struggling with his gayness, or just like Spider Man No Way Home is abt Peter doing a silly mistake and saving the world, wtf are BL watchers complaining bc a show has a story?💀Im sorry there is no twin to save, no mafia boss to fall in love with or wtf know what else, but maybe come back in my comment at the end of ep 8 so we can talk abt the plot again
Isn’t it funny, that Mile and Apo always seem to be overshadowed by their side-couples?
Only minors préférée VP over KP bfr, even 3 years later only KP scenes go viral on twitter, plus Trin is barely accepting his potential bisexuality give them time😭
What’s going on? I don’t understand. What’s the central issue that’s going on? So many different scenes…
Sigh • Trin is Thai, from a very affluent family, who studied abroad in France during the Cold War and returned to Thailand in 1969. That’s one year after the 1968 protests in France, a time of intense social movements, especially among students (mostly from wealthier backgrounds). While Trin wasn’t politically active in France and didn’t join the demonstrations, where his girlfriend was killed, being in such a charged climate left its mark on him. It strengthened his determination to help change Thailand, applying his economics knowledge back home. But he faces two major issues. • First, his social status: as someone from privilege, his idealistic views often don’t translate into reality. There are social codes he doesn’t understand, and at times he unconsciously reinforces inequality (like asking a student to clean his shoes, or approaching the poor with a “savior” mindset). • Second, his gay awakening: France exposed him to a more open-minded environment than Thailand’s laws and attitudes at the time. While it broadened his worldview, he never imagined queerness could apply to him personally. His journey in understanding others, especially those unlike him, will intertwine with understanding himself, including his queerness, the unspoken codes, and the need to fight for both social justice and the right to love freely.
• Tanwa’s depth becomes clearer in episode 2. He’s also from a wealthy background, but lost his mother, and for reasons not yet fully revealed, has always felt he wasn’t enough for his father, a belief later confirmed. This pushed him toward a radically different lifestyle from Trin’s: one of hedonism, living freely without societal pressure, much like the hippie ideals of that era. It offers him an escape and a way to exist on his own terms. This philosophy may help Trin broaden his own views, but it’s also a lifestyle accessible mainly to the rich. It’s unclear yet how Tanwa will engage with political issues, maybe he’ll need a journey like Trin’s, or maybe he already holds strong beliefs that we haven’t seen yet.
• Viktor’s storyline, tied to the student movement, Trin, and possibly the journalist Naran, focuses on active protest and resistance against Thailand’s system. They (excluding Naran) are, in a way, direct victims of the country’s high capitalism of the era. With student protests erupting worldwide, it’s natural for Thai students to join in. Viktor and his peers will likely be the aggressive force that pushes Trin to realize where his own perspective falls short, building on his late lover’s ideals. The students themselves face personal struggles, Viktor’s father is an alcoholic, and others, from poorer backgrounds, probably face similar hardships. • Krailert comes from privilege and is set up for a perfect future under capitalism, but he’s gay, though not fully embracing that part of himself. He accepts his attraction to men and uses it to his advantage (ex., with an actor lover or the journalist) but avoids anything that might disrupt his societal comfort. Naran, more outspoken in his beliefs, might push him toward self-acceptance. There could also be conversations with his nephew, Trin, on this topic. • Naran, a journalist, is committed to fighting censorship and defending free expression against the government. He’s also in what appears to be an impending arranged marriage, while being queer himself, and will engage in a relationship with Krailert. His convictions may align or clash with Viktor’s, potentially helping Trin evolve, or perhaps his role will mainly drive Krailert’s development while Viktor influences Trin. • Women’s rights also stand out among the themes of social justice and queerness. So far, two women are being pushed into marriage. Rose, the woman introduced to Trin, might return, possibly as part of an attempt to fit him into heteronormative expectations. Viktor’s sister and mother sing about women’s empowerment, but his mother is stuck with a drunk partner she likely cannot divorce. Their stories could evolve into a major plotline on women’s independence. That’s a lot to unpack for just 8 episodes, but if the pacing is handled well, it could work. Episode 1 set the stage, episode 2 introduced the characters, their ideals, and their conflicts, and the rest will likely focus on how these journeys unfold. Honestly, there’s so much here already that I’m surprised you don’t see where the show is headed.
romance not being at the forefront of the story doesn't mean there's no plot. the plot is all of these characters…
how did this go from « no romance ≠ no plot » to BOC defender? Bfr it’s so obvious what are the plot lines going to be about, like genuisly you aren’t blind you can see right? They established things that will help understand the following events
Replying to u cause I wanna know too!I'm so so lost lol...I'm not the smartest when it comes to this show, I realized,…
maybe there’s thril abt getting getting each other’s small shenanigans through what they were written, while people act confused I don’t think it’s impossible to get some kind of attraction through that, and you can see how they went on physical attraction, they aren’t even talking to each other yet to develop full emotional bond. I think they love each other ideas, the thought of the whole exclusive relationship and we’ll later see them develop a stronger bond
omg I loved that episode😭So many characters and yet all their storylines are easy and interesting to get. Amazingly surprised by Krailert and Naran storyline and can’t wait to see where it will lead us, as for Trin and Tanwa, I loved their interactions sm and would love to see how their relationship evolve in the following episodes!
They were iconic. It was camp. They had to have them, so they decided to go all out and make them a running joke.…
They were out of places, whether it’s those who were in the end of the eps or those who just broke the whole royalty atmosphere, we know why that one Thai BL will always be the iconic when it comes to product placements, and it was bc they knew how to put them in the perfect moments
probably lol, just reading his comment you can tell he/she expected to come here and to dislike the show, they managed to hate on the show for its purpose aka recreating that 70s Thailand atmosphere😭
Hearing Russian in a Thai drama was completely unexpected. I even choked on my tea in surprise. At first, I thought…
THANK YOU bc I was confused abt what language he was speaking, expecially since Viktor answered in English (or maybe I heard badly) but so glad to hear that it’s Russian. I’m French and they nailed the scenes in France so we’ll, Apo wa SSO good and same for the other actors who brought that Parisian vibe perfectly. And now hearing that they also used perfect Russian, wow truthly great job
fr like just for all the setting they did it’s already way more, the fact that he « only felt like they were presenting Thailand in a certain era » is exactly the purpose of that episode and of the whole serie which means they nailed it. Then he or she needs to use their critical thinking bc they introduced what the different plotli,es could be lmao if they can’t see that that’s on them not on the show, I suggest a bit of history maybe
From first episode, I feel one needs to have an understanding of the history of Thailand in the time period of…
Yes, I feel like part of the history I learnt in school and a mix of curiosity actually helped me to get a bit of context abt Thailand at that time. I feel like if the show tried to explain it too much it would have felt like a documentary, so they went for the get in the vibe road instead, which imo is better to enjoy when you have a bit of context. I learnt recently abt Thailand history and on a general basis, abt how they didn’t get colonized bc they adapted quickly to the Western or Japanese mindset or whatever, and how it could have affected them, which we can see with this serie.
Again first episode about nothing. Why is other series doesn't make me quetion what is the story is about? Everything…
They introduced Trin’s social situation, Viktor’s family background and we could see the type of Thailand they lived in, with poor people, student and people protesting heavily abt their conditions, the richer sides and capitalists and how they lived, and now that more free spirit side of Thailand at the time,lol. I think if you watch the ep and based on that, you could clearly tell the plots this show is going to explore😐
• Trin is Thai, from a very affluent family, who studied abroad in France during the Cold War and returned to Thailand in 1969. That’s one year after the 1968 protests in France, a time of intense social movements, especially among students (mostly from wealthier backgrounds). While Trin wasn’t politically active in France and didn’t join the demonstrations, where his girlfriend was killed, being in such a charged climate left its mark on him. It strengthened his determination to help change Thailand, applying his economics knowledge back home. But he faces two major issues.
• First, his social status: as someone from privilege, his idealistic views often don’t translate into reality. There are social codes he doesn’t understand, and at times he unconsciously reinforces inequality (like asking a student to clean his shoes, or approaching the poor with a “savior” mindset).
• Second, his gay awakening: France exposed him to a more open-minded environment than Thailand’s laws and attitudes at the time. While it broadened his worldview, he never imagined queerness could apply to him personally. His journey in understanding others, especially those unlike him, will intertwine with understanding himself, including his queerness, the unspoken codes, and the need to fight for both social justice and the right to love freely.
• Tanwa’s depth becomes clearer in episode 2. He’s also from a wealthy background, but lost his mother, and for reasons not yet fully revealed, has always felt he wasn’t enough for his father, a belief later confirmed. This pushed him toward a radically different lifestyle from Trin’s: one of hedonism, living freely without societal pressure, much like the hippie ideals of that era. It offers him an escape and a way to exist on his own terms. This philosophy may help Trin broaden his own views, but it’s also a lifestyle accessible mainly to the rich. It’s unclear yet how Tanwa will engage with political issues, maybe he’ll need a journey like Trin’s, or maybe he already holds strong beliefs that we haven’t seen yet.
• Viktor’s storyline, tied to the student movement, Trin, and possibly the journalist Naran, focuses on active protest and resistance against Thailand’s system. They (excluding Naran) are, in a way, direct victims of the country’s high capitalism of the era. With student protests erupting worldwide, it’s natural for Thai students to join in. Viktor and his peers will likely be the aggressive force that pushes Trin to realize where his own perspective falls short, building on his late lover’s ideals. The students themselves face personal struggles, Viktor’s father is an alcoholic, and others, from poorer backgrounds, probably face similar hardships.
• Krailert comes from privilege and is set up for a perfect future under capitalism, but he’s gay, though not fully embracing that part of himself. He accepts his attraction to men and uses it to his advantage (ex., with an actor lover or the journalist) but avoids anything that might disrupt his societal comfort. Naran, more outspoken in his beliefs, might push him toward self-acceptance. There could also be conversations with his nephew, Trin, on this topic.
• Naran, a journalist, is committed to fighting censorship and defending free expression against the government. He’s also in what appears to be an impending arranged marriage, while being queer himself, and will engage in a relationship with Krailert. His convictions may align or clash with Viktor’s, potentially helping Trin evolve, or perhaps his role will mainly drive Krailert’s development while Viktor influences Trin.
• Women’s rights also stand out among the themes of social justice and queerness. So far, two women are being pushed into marriage. Rose, the woman introduced to Trin, might return, possibly as part of an attempt to fit him into heteronormative expectations. Viktor’s sister and mother sing about women’s empowerment, but his mother is stuck with a drunk partner she likely cannot divorce. Their stories could evolve into a major plotline on women’s independence.
That’s a lot to unpack for just 8 episodes, but if the pacing is handled well, it could work. Episode 1 set the stage, episode 2 introduced the characters, their ideals, and their conflicts, and the rest will likely focus on how these journeys unfold. Honestly, there’s so much here already that I’m surprised you don’t see where the show is headed.