Badass Bunny

U would be suprised...Back than it looked like a Gossip girl episode all the time :D And when factions came to rise? Oh boy.

Yeah, I know all this :) I was giving primary details only, what the drama will show is up to them, but Jeong Do Jeon was very interesting political figure indeed. While some attribute him as the co-founder of Joseon and a man who set foundation to Joseon traditions, people like Yi Ik hated him to his core and that is suprising since Do Jeon tried to bring Neo-Confucianism to the country, he literally hated Buddhism which had huge influence before. And Yi Ik being a seonbi himself...hmmm idk I guess they bended their way of Confucianism they saw fit. After all, when Yi Ik was alive, he had much serious problems to deal with, like factionalism.

Please, do cause it is so dumb that u just gotta laugh at it :D

Honestly....for those who dont know the background it might be very confusing since the story kinda starts...at the middle? Like it starts after Strife of princes so you kinda gotta study what happened before in order to understand this, but I did make quick recap in that comment section ^_^

We had only few, actually! There is this nice lady which is super awesome and we contemplate about the ifs and maybes about the historical things that arent clear, but than we got the Chinese who came and of course tries to spread their propaganda (for real this time).

No one is trying to dispute Chinese achievments so what are you on about? Just like I said before, you cannot take even little bit of criticism towards bad ideology and also cannot accept the fact that Korea is NOT your territory. Reality is truly indeed super hard to accept.

The reason Koreans obeyed Chinese was due to very simple reasons - the merchant deals + the amount of power Chinese had. China was incredibly unstable with their leadership so keeping GOOD relations was the key to keeping things peaceful, because who knows when Chinese will invade again. This show again, how little u know about pre-Samhan and Samhan period where Silla and Goryeo people fought of Chinese. I wont comment on the Confucianism parts, because your comments are absurd. I wont engage with you anymore, because unlike you, I do not hate China or Chinese people. It is you who still views Koreans as your lap dogs and your territory.

The queen who crowns 😭

Barbarians? Look into your history first, please. The only good thing from Confucianism was the importance of knowledge, but what else do we have here? Mandate of Heaven (terrible ideology, which made people suffer), The 3 obediences or Four virtues (terrible opression of women) and let us not forget the opression of merchant class! You know 0 thing about Samhan or pre-Samhan period if you think that the only blood shedding was done by Koreans. Arent you forgetting the nonstop invasions hmm? There were far more invasions from your side.

Oh, you must be Chinese than. Only they can get offended by words that Confucianism was half good, but also half poison to Korean peninsula. The effect of it can be seen to this day. Do not try to make Confucianism into an ideal idology when it had some terrible ideas that last till this day.

Yeong Sil was maid of the current Queen and the maid was favored (bedded) by the current king. Thus, the king took her as his concubine and the boy is the king's son birthed by Yeong Sil.

Also, the Confucianism wasnt for the concubine part of the comment, but please, do speak more 🤣👍

That can only be said by someone uneducated :D You think history is uncovered and we know everything? Oh, how wrong you are ~ Just like the discussion I have with the user below, there are still - to this day - unknown things which we think about. The ifs and maybes.

Are you high...Dont try to lecture me on something I am literally writing my phd thesis on.

This was the real Goryeo and real Joseon, not the mainstream fairytales that we can see.
So, who shall we blame this for?
Probably Confucianism.

At that time, everything was about greed. I think all parties were incredibly greedy, Min family was also incredibly greedy and wanted to establish their footing in the palace, thinking that by landing their Min army to Bang Won they would be unbreakable, but even greed has it's own limit.

I wonder if the Min family slaughter was needed or wasn't needed, because I still cannot drawn a conclusion on Wonkyeong. Was she too modern for her era, or was she still heavily influenced by Goryeo traditions? Afterall, Goryeo was giving women much more freedom than Joseon and the rise of Confucianism was basically ruining all her plans.

I still think Bang Won did her dirty, but that may be my 21th century thinking.

Because that didn't happen.
There was clearly mentioned who is the aggressor and it was Ismael.
Don't blame your lack of understanding of Korean language on others, when you and only you are responsible for doing proper research regarding this topic, which was here and elsewhere explained thoroughly.

Hahaha, probably! With my studying I have some chance of survival upon arrival!

The queen who crowns.
I picked Joseon period as my focus of studies so I can get cranky when they F it up....
Maybe that's why I can't watch majority of currently airing historical shows *hard cough*

It is in the forum and down in the comments :)