Only thing keeping me invested up till this point is the hope it will all come around for Name, might be at double lightspeed seeing how this keeps getting sadder by the week, but hey it has to come right.... xD
So a season 2 right.... hmmm why not make a better plot for the first season. I mean I loved a few things here all in all, but the one thing that was seriously lacking, in my honest opinion, was the lack of decent plot development. Guess we will see what it brings in a season 2 tho... more drama lolz
lolz there goes the one couple we all had been routing for... don´t know why they must insist he ends up with Green while Shogun is from our point of view a better match with him. Oh well 4 eps to go, guess they will make Green step in now... but I will always wonder why lolz.
PS: he really should have touched the scar xD --´´
Could you please get more specific about what type of circumstances you feel are required for a kissing scene…
For one instance, the trope about ´friends with benefits to lovers´ or more the sexual undertone a series wants to portray during character development. But a show who brings more the narrative of getting from friends to lovers and ends with the confession, I don´t see the part it ´must have´ the famous ends with a kiss scene.
In depth reference can easily provide just as much. An introvert like Nekoyashiki will highly unlikely initiate a kiss on his own for instance, the extravert Kazama could instead do this, but without the consent or even feeling at ease for Nekoyashiki in plain public would also be kinda weird.
Cultural reference, the public display of affection in Japan as a whole is also (hetrosexual or homosexual) not something you are likely to see as well.
No like seriously this show is really good. People are allowed to have a negative opinion for this show not providing a kissing scene, but I for one didn´t feel like it needed one. Extra shout-out for the actors, they really were great in portraying their emotions. Overall a funny and lovely story, the manga-elements inside also provided a nice touch to the show, making it certainly extra fun.
Wow, I am really enjoying this one! Compared to plot/acting from kissable lips, this one is so much better. Really glad they got to show their talents in this one, cause it really is good.
I actually like the chemistry of this series a lot, I mean it is nice seeing the fancy glamour from shows nowadays, but the old school vibe sure delivers as well. Plot is typical more or less, but the portrayal of emotions really stand out, that in combination with the actors being also quite comfortable around each other in lots of friendly skinship so far.
The show needs the emotional snare, and so far the main couple more than delivers. Hope to see it continue after their time skip as well
Guess episode 7 will start from sweet honeymoon to hellevator. You know when things start going right, drama is on the way. I hope they take their time expressing the sad and dark feelings for a good time and don't rush it. Those chapters are the most meaningfull imo for their future relationship.
She went WAY overboard. It was so frustrating to watch. What business is it of hers? Her whole "fraternity brother"…
True, even in the novel you don't get the vibe of their really so called close friendship lolz. Remember she also knew about Ploy cheating on Vee and didn't say it (it was Bar who said it), I get the only ones who really help Vee are Bar and Nuea later on.
I wish not all the stories had those twists and just focused on minor setbacks one episode at a time. However,…
Well if you want to know the bigger plotpicture, they have already filmed those in their original short 'En of love series'. So you kinda know what is going to happen anyways :p
I wish not all the stories had those twists and just focused on minor setbacks one episode at a time. However,…
In theory we can expect near episode 7-8 to be the major bomb episode, it makes for a good ending of the episode so if 6 is the happy one, we can expect 7 to be de deadly one. 8 will be depressing for 9 to work things out towards a happy 10th ending.
But since a lot still happens in the novel, I am curious in how they will deal with it. They have enough to cover, so they might make adjustments like they did now as well to bring a more balanced story overall. I really look forward towards this ending and how to deal with it, for that is in my opinion the best about the book overall. To clear all the things up they had since the start :p.
I'm under the charms of these two men, their story isn't the one you dream of at first but its progression is…
Hmmm I find they portray it differently in both the novel as the series so far. I believe Vee doesn't cling onto the relationship he had with Ploy, following his actions and thoughts throughout we see that Ploy and Vee (even without Mark being an active part in it) were growing apart. Note that Ploy was already playing with Ton around before Vee had even took Mark home for their drunk sex adventure. The main reason why Mark and Vee got to grow and develop feelings is also by chance that Ploy was meeting with Ton consistently throughout this period, making Vee always end up alone, with Mark nearby in need of help/comfort/whatever. This makes the base for their feelings towards one another.
While Vee and Ploy are during this time still together, we know that the break was initiated by Ploy to see where things could go officialy with Ton, while in a crude way making Vee a second safe house for when things would not end well lolz, but still Vee did not mind it really for at that time he knew his gf was no longer his. While down at first, he is actually taken care of by Mark and is suprisingly well not missing Ploy. During this time he makes the mental shift from accepting what he has with Mark towards choosing Mark over Ploy and ending things with the latter for good.
Vee being poor is also not a reason, for it is known in the novel that both Mark (really rich) as Ploy (well off) don't have money issues. Vee is from a standard family, not poor but not overly wealthy either.
The insecurities are there tho. In large part for being straight and never having feelings for guys, towards how he should deal with his gf that is no longer his, towards a boy that came into his life and wants to be with him, the whole outing and gay stuff, the parents reaction to it, ... .
But as you said it, the twist will come and become hard and painful for both Mark and Vee, while it also provides an end to a toxic situation and having time to clear things up and restart anew if plausible.
The director's cut is free on wetv, since the episodes 1 to 3 have already aired before. You can find them beneath…
From episode 4 and onwards the released episodes are by default the director's cut, so they will stream for free on wetv as well, but always one week after the original airing date.
where could i find the directors cut? i can't afford wetv if it's a subscription
The director's cut is free on wetv, since the episodes 1 to 3 have already aired before. You can find them beneath their original episode, but with the tag 'Director's cut' with it.
Do mind they release each week only being next friday the director's cut for episode 2, week after for the last one nr 3 free for all to see.
From the novel's point of view: the parents of Vee are not homophobic or anything at all. In fact they are supportive…
Thank you for your kind words. If you want to know stuff or have any questions, feel free to ask me. Since I read the novel just recently, I still know enough about it :p...
Time stamps would be kinda difficult as the director's cut for episode 1 gives 10 min of extra scenes throughout…
Honnestly, plotwise nothing really. I watched it because I was curious and don't mind rewatching it since I just had finnished reading the novel. While it was 10 min extra, it was mostly cuts here and there for extension of conversations with friends, each other or some scriptlines added like one sentence stuff.
so there is many questions regarding vee's father attitude toward mark , and here are my views on it .1- he is…
From the novel's point of view: the parents of Vee are not homophobic or anything at all. In fact they are supportive and mention they only care that their son (Vee) is happy. They only really got to know Vee was having something with Mark, when the latter broke things off with Vee. Vee takes it really hard and is getting worse and worse up to the point that the parents really need to intervene and get to know everything from Vee about what was going on. Here they mention all, with Yoo, Vee's brother, that they are here for him and support him.
When Mark and Vee reconcile later on in the story, the parents of Mark (still being unaware that Mark and Vee are getting back together and after seeing how bad Mark was doing in their breaking up) are furious and demand to see Vee's parents to clear things up. While Mark's parents are not showing support of their renewed relationship, it is the parents of Vee who intervene and tell them they should be happy together. While the parents of Vee do mention once that if they had known before, they would have shown less approval of their relationship, we can probably guess they emphasize it on the being together with Ploy still while dating Mark thingie.
To conclude, while in episode 1 Vee and Mark had sex in Vee's house, the parents did not know this (probably were not there). We do know Yoo was there, and heard everything lolz. This means Yoo was the first one to know about Vee and Mark's relationship.
From day to night in 3 split seconds, and in those 3 seconds Mark managed to walk pretty far and almost get assaulted.…
Vee has an older brother named Yoo, which is already at the start of the series out and about being gay. Vee and Yoo's parents got to know this by the fact he brought home his bf/lover (not clarified really) home to meet them, which was somehow a shock for their parents, but not in a negative way. Just a regular 'oh we didn't see that coming' kinda thing. This all happened before the start of this series (novel only recapped on this, like in the series). Remember, this is also why Vee outing himself in Vee's mind might pose a problem, since the parents want grandchildren and he being also gay hinders their prospect.
Vee never had an issue with his brother being gay or anything about it. They have a love-hate relationship where they are supportive of one another but also like to tease the other one. Yoo plays an important role for he is actually the first one to know Vee and Mark are having something going on, as he was home when Vee brought Mark to his house in episode 1 (they had loud sex, which Yoo heard). That is why Yoo is shocked the next morning to see Vee brought home a boy (while also being still with Ploy). He does ship them hard :p, so when Vee is recovering from his talk with Ploy wanting a break (and Vee being stupid does not contact Mark who is waiting for him), Yoo is texting Mark on Vee's progress etc.
Later on the family of Vee as a whole, after telling what an idiot Vee has been with Mark all along, show support towards them becoming a couple again + being there when Mark's parents make a fuss about it and being less supportive of it all (this is largely because Vee hurt Mark, so they are being extra protective).
would someone be able to tell me time stamps of new scenes from the director’s cuts? I don’t want to rewatch…
Time stamps would be kinda difficult as the director's cut for episode 1 gives 10 min of extra scenes throughout the whole episode, mostly in short cuts they made. The new added scenes don't give plotwise much difference, so up to you if you wanna watch it for that reason.
PS: he really should have touched the scar xD --´´
In depth reference can easily provide just as much. An introvert like Nekoyashiki will highly unlikely initiate a kiss on his own for instance, the extravert Kazama could instead do this, but without the consent or even feeling at ease for Nekoyashiki in plain public would also be kinda weird.
Cultural reference, the public display of affection in Japan as a whole is also (hetrosexual or homosexual) not something you are likely to see as well.
The show needs the emotional snare, and so far the main couple more than delivers. Hope to see it continue after their time skip as well
But since a lot still happens in the novel, I am curious in how they will deal with it. They have enough to cover, so they might make adjustments like they did now as well to bring a more balanced story overall. I really look forward towards this ending and how to deal with it, for that is in my opinion the best about the book overall. To clear all the things up they had since the start :p.
While Vee and Ploy are during this time still together, we know that the break was initiated by Ploy to see where things could go officialy with Ton, while in a crude way making Vee a second safe house for when things would not end well lolz, but still Vee did not mind it really for at that time he knew his gf was no longer his. While down at first, he is actually taken care of by Mark and is suprisingly well not missing Ploy. During this time he makes the mental shift from accepting what he has with Mark towards choosing Mark over Ploy and ending things with the latter for good.
Vee being poor is also not a reason, for it is known in the novel that both Mark (really rich) as Ploy (well off) don't have money issues. Vee is from a standard family, not poor but not overly wealthy either.
The insecurities are there tho. In large part for being straight and never having feelings for guys, towards how he should deal with his gf that is no longer his, towards a boy that came into his life and wants to be with him, the whole outing and gay stuff, the parents reaction to it, ... .
But as you said it, the twist will come and become hard and painful for both Mark and Vee, while it also provides an end to a toxic situation and having time to clear things up and restart anew if plausible.
Do mind they release each week only being next friday the director's cut for episode 2, week after for the last one nr 3 free for all to see.
When Mark and Vee reconcile later on in the story, the parents of Mark (still being unaware that Mark and Vee are getting back together and after seeing how bad Mark was doing in their breaking up) are furious and demand to see Vee's parents to clear things up. While Mark's parents are not showing support of their renewed relationship, it is the parents of Vee who intervene and tell them they should be happy together. While the parents of Vee do mention once that if they had known before, they would have shown less approval of their relationship, we can probably guess they emphasize it on the being together with Ploy still while dating Mark thingie.
To conclude, while in episode 1 Vee and Mark had sex in Vee's house, the parents did not know this (probably were not there). We do know Yoo was there, and heard everything lolz. This means Yoo was the first one to know about Vee and Mark's relationship.
Vee never had an issue with his brother being gay or anything about it. They have a love-hate relationship where they are supportive of one another but also like to tease the other one. Yoo plays an important role for he is actually the first one to know Vee and Mark are having something going on, as he was home when Vee brought Mark to his house in episode 1 (they had loud sex, which Yoo heard). That is why Yoo is shocked the next morning to see Vee brought home a boy (while also being still with Ploy). He does ship them hard :p, so when Vee is recovering from his talk with Ploy wanting a break (and Vee being stupid does not contact Mark who is waiting for him), Yoo is texting Mark on Vee's progress etc.
Later on the family of Vee as a whole, after telling what an idiot Vee has been with Mark all along, show support towards them becoming a couple again + being there when Mark's parents make a fuss about it and being less supportive of it all (this is largely because Vee hurt Mark, so they are being extra protective).