6. I was expecting more from In. But some people never change...
Remember In comes from a world where being gay is an abomination and something to be ashamed of. Wang recognizes this and his mother reinforces this belief. Had In not been ashamed he would not have ignored the calls from Wang’s dad. He was ashamed then and he is still ashamed which is why he lives alone in that cold, dark, depressing mausoleum that he built. Wang tries to get him to come out into the light but notice when the mother reappears In once again retreats into his cave. Wang too retreats when he assures his mother he will never leave her. When I read the interview with the author and he said he was crying as he wrote the last episode I realized then that there would be no happy ending for Wang and In. Obviously the author chose to be realistic. There is still much work to be done to break down barriers but it won’t be my generation. We are too steeped in rigid, archaic ideologies. Why do I say this? Because even I do not dare reveal that I watch BLs or any gay based work. It’s ironic because I actually did my Masters Thesis on James Baldwin and his perspective on love as depicted in his literary works. And that was in 1980. So I put my faith in the Wangs and the future generations where hopefully individuals can live their truth without scorn or shame.
I've been seeing different reviews on this, why is everyone crying? Does it end happily?
No it doesn’t end happily in my opinion. A sad commentary on how much things still remain the same. Even with Pride parades and the first openly gay man as a member of a President’s cabinet for many this is a painful reminder of just how much has not changed. It was well done but it was a tragedy none the less in my humble opinion.
You’re right this isn’t the show for someone who’s only looking for fluff and unrealistic developments .…
I don’t think I ever said this was not a great series. I was just making an observation. In fact I gave this last episode a ten. I probably have stated this before but I have a whole repertoire of series that I hold dear. Some like this one I store away and just savor the experience. Others I am drawn to repeatedly. When I rate a series I have my own personal yardstick. I don’t ever mark a series down just because I didn’t like the ending or it did not have a kiss. Not me who came up in a time where married couples were not even shown in the same bed. Lol I am just at a point in my life where I need more fluff. I’ve had too many Ins and mothers like Wangs in my real life so I do covet and want the happy ending even if only for a moment. If you read this tedious rant until the end I sincerely thank you for your patience.
Reading these comments has been like being in a virtual classroom and I have loved it. So many thought provoking , sincere and illuminating responses. Thank you.,
Lol..well bl partners we got duped…a great drama but not one kiss…at least in A Thousand there was a kiss at the end…even Semantic Error had a few kisses…lol..well time to rewatch Not Me and KinnPorsche. Lol…and anyone who doubts if the mother was homophobic go back and rewatch the part where she tells In he disgusts her. I have no doubt she told her husband the same thing and she won’t be any different with Wang when she gets him back to Bangkok. This was sadly realistic . This is not the series for someone looking for hope and a breakthrough .
Yes this was a real tragedy in every sense of the word. I knew by the 6th episode the direction this was taking. Three weakass men against one manipulative shew.I am actually surprised this was written by a man.
The mom was trash. In was a selfish coward and emotionally manipulative. throw the whole show away.
I agree. Before Wang even said the word coward I was saying it out loud…weak cowardly excuse of a man….and the mother personifies the status quo…even Wang did as his father and backed away… no victory today for those who dare to live their truth and hope for true acceptance. Watching this once was enough for me.
I didn’t expect it to end well. I‘m okay it didn’t actually because it shows that life isn’t always a…
True life is not a fairytale but can you envision a mother who truly loves her child being oblivious to your child’s pain and rambling on while he is sitting next to you sobbing. As a mother I have had to bite my tongue and cry in private for the sake of my child living his truth. That is not a fairytale…that too is reality. I agree the acting was outstanding. I hope to see these fine actors in other productions. It actually was a play on film. I think it is more suited to the drama genre. I personally do not consider this a bl. There was a lot of angst and inner conflict but very little love. That’s just my humble opinion.
It’s over and like any tragedy it ended as only it could. While I applaud the sheer artistry it will not go on my rewatch list. Once was enough for me. That poster of the two was a teaser. Shame on the producers to stoop so low just to entice viewers.
It’s over and will definitely go on my rewatch list. This has truly been a great year for BLs. Loved the entire cast. Hope to see Jimmy and Sea together again.
that's kind of the whole point, it's meant to be messy and it's not about to do anything to clean up that mess…
Well put. At first I was trying to analyze this series using logic and common sense. But when I started looking at it from a personal and emotional point of view it makes perfect sense. Life is messy. Relationships are not linear and there are so many shades of grey. Growth requires letting go and letting go requires sacrifice. Self-love and self- acceptance requires both. We can’t change the past but we can reconcile and forgive. So at this point I just want each one to live and to have grown.
This last episode was so much fun to watch. I just love the part when Rain gave the guy two good kicks and said the only one who could screw him is Phayu. I don’t know why but Boss and Noeul make me think of MaxTul. I would love to see them in another series. They are so much fun to watch. I guess the next episodes will focus on the next couple. I can’t wait.
Overall I liked it enough to put on my rewatch list. However I do feel the relationship between the son and boyfriend was too rushed. I would also like to see Rex play a role other than a houseboy. This was too similar to Daddy Love. The performances by all three were strong especially the father. Here is a man who has repressed his feelings for so long and obviously loved his wife and son. Now he’s like a butterfly who has left the safety of his cocoon and just wants to fly freely. There is remorse and mutual respect from all three. Love how the father is so angry one minute and then rational the next moment. The consummate queen.
mausoleum that he
built. Wang tries
to get him to come out into the light but notice when the mother
reappears In once
again retreats
into his
cave. Wang too
retreats
when he
assures his
mother he
will never
leave her. When I read the interview with the author and he said he was crying as he wrote the last episode I realized then that there would be no happy ending for Wang and In. Obviously the author
chose to be realistic.
There is still much work to be done to break down barriers but it won’t be my generation. We are too steeped in rigid, archaic
ideologies. Why do I say this? Because even I do not dare
reveal that
I watch BLs or any
gay based
work. It’s ironic because I actually did my Masters Thesis on
James Baldwin and his
perspective on love as depicted in his literary
works. And that was in 1980. So I
put my faith in the
Wangs and the future
generations where
hopefully
individuals can live their truth
without
scorn or
shame.
generations and I
this is a painful reminder of just
how much has not
changed. It was well done but it was a tragedy none the less in my humble opinion.
I probably have stated this before
but I have a whole
repertoire of
series
that I hold dear.
Some like this one I store away and just savor the
experience.
Others
I am drawn to repeatedly. When I rate a
series I
have my
own
personal
yardstick. I don’t
ever mark a
series
down
just
because I didn’t
like the
ending or it did not
have a kiss. Not
me who came up in a
time
where
married couples were
not even
shown
in the
same bed. Lol I am
just at
a point
in my
life where
I need
more fluff.
I’ve had
too
many
Ins and
mothers like
Wangs
in my real life so
I do
covet
and want
the
happy
ending
even if
only for a
moment. If
you read this
tedious rant
until
the end I
sincerely
thank
you
for your
patience.
thought provoking , sincere and illuminating
responses. Thank you.,
appreciate the artistry and the
acting
excellence.
not one kiss…at least in
A Thousand there was a kiss at the end…even Semantic Error had a few
kisses…lol..well time to
rewatch Not Me and KinnPorsche. Lol…and anyone who doubts if the mother was homophobic go back and rewatch the part where she tells In he
disgusts her. I have no
doubt she told her husband the same thing
and she won’t be any
different with Wang when
she gets him back to
Bangkok. This was sadly
realistic . This is not the series for someone looking
for hope and a breakthrough .
his father and backed away… no victory today for
those who dare to
live their truth and
hope for true
acceptance. Watching this once was enough for me.
being oblivious to
your child’s pain and rambling on while he is sitting next to you sobbing. As a mother I have had to bite my tongue
and cry in private
for the sake of my
child living his truth. That is not
a fairytale…that too is reality. I agree the acting
was outstanding. I hope to see these fine actors in other
productions. It actually was a play on film. I think it is more suited to the
drama genre. I
personally do not
consider this a bl. There was a lot of
angst and inner
conflict but very
little love. That’s just my humble opinion.
sheer artistry it will not go
on my rewatch list. Once was enough for me. That poster of the two was a
teaser. Shame on the producers to stoop so low just to entice viewers.
go on my rewatch list. This has truly been a great year
for BLs. Loved the entire
cast. Hope to see Jimmy and Sea together again.
this series
using logic
and common sense. But when I
started
looking at
it from a
personal
and
emotional
point of
view it
makes
perfect
sense.
Life is
messy.
Relationships are
not linear
and there
are so
many shades of
grey. Growth
requires
letting go
and
letting go
requires
sacrifice.
Self-love
and self-
acceptance requires
both. We
can’t change
the past but we can
reconcile
and forgive.
So at this
point I just
want each
one to
live and to
have grown.
impressed with the
acting of the mls . Love this series more and more each week.
Phayu. I don’t know why
but Boss and Noeul make me think of MaxTul. I would love to see them
in another series. They are so much fun to watch. I guess the next episodes
will focus on the next couple. I can’t wait.
put on my rewatch list. However I do feel the
relationship between the
son and boyfriend was too
rushed. I would also like to see Rex play a role other than a houseboy. This was
too similar to Daddy Love. The
performances by all three were
strong especially the father. Here is
a man who has repressed his feelings for so long and obviously loved his
wife and son. Now he’s like a
butterfly who has left the safety of
his cocoon and just wants to fly freely. There is remorse and mutual respect from all three. Love how the father
is so angry one minute and then rational the next moment. The consummate queen.