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I am still enjoying this but I do wish they would give Samantha the chance to play other roles. She has been typecast and I just feel she has the talent to handle more mature roles.

I agree. There is something deeper going on with him. Yes, he has the great car, fancy clothes, a thriving business, a lawyer friend with benefits and a fancy apartment but the only time we really see him smile or seem happy is when he is with Hoe. I worked with a colleague once who said her first marriage looked perfect from the outside. She had all the material trappings of a perfect life but in reality she was miserable. It was only when she got the courage to leave all that behind that she was able to discover true love and happiness. I dont think Do Hoe has the kind of courage it would take. He was a coward ten years before and he seems to still be a coward. Maybe that’s what he means when he tells Yeong that he can’t be what he wants him to be.

It does remind me of To My Star and To My Star 2. While I enjoyed both and thought they were well made neither one made my rewatch list. I can only take so much pain and suffering. Lol. The jury is still out on this one. Next week will determine if it goes on my rewatch list. I actually like The Eighth Sense and Jazz for Two better.

Yes, I have a young relative who ended a long term relationship for that very reason. They were even engaged to be married but she said it had just become too exhausting. Relationships are hard under the best of circumstances but when it gets to the point where you find it becoming
overwhelming and just too much to handle I agree it time to pull the plug. I have already watched ep 5&6 three times and both Hoe and Yeong need to take a break. Hoe also needs to find the balls to break away from whatever hold Hyeon has on him. Theirs is clearly a toxic relationship. Unlike with yeong hoe
always looks drained and beaten down when with Hyeon .Its as if he is resigned to keeping Hyeon. It feels like Hyeon knows
something about
Hoe and uses
that to keep him . I would be popping pills and drinking whiskey too if that’s what I had to live with every day. Hyeon even says they are always together. That is not love.

You mention a key point…why would want sleep with the person that bullied you. It has been proven that unfortunately sometimes people who have been abused or bullied either end up being abusers or bullies themselves. Likewise sometimes they end up being with the same kind of people. This is what they are used to. It seems natural. Breaking the cycle of toxicity is not easy for some.

What a wonderful analysis. For me the measure of a really great series is when someone takes the time to articulate his/her viewpoints and to stay focused on the key elements and characters depicted. I personally enjoy reading the various perspectives. Thank you again.

You make some good points. I know people who came from a poor background. Now they are doing well. Their material things have become their comfort blanket. They want nothing to do with anything that reminds them of the times when they were without. It is like looking at a reflection of what they they fear the most. I really feel sorry for Yeong. He is trying so hard to forget the past that he has built this materialistic fortress . I think even his relationship with Ho is another part of his having to create the appearance of success. Not only does he have to have the house and the cars but he needs the perfect lover. It is all camouflage . Yes, Yeong is in need of some serious help. You dont take pills like that just because you are tired and overworked. With all these issues this could have easily been 12 episodes. Watch how he responds when the student tells him how he is trying to get accepted into the most prestigious academy. Yeong appears sincerely concerned and
visibly moved. His reaction feels personal. Again, this is so good on so many levels.

Very honest and realistic assessment. You cant fit a square peg in a round hole…at least not without doing some serious damage. Some people are just not meant to be together. Actually if they dont end up together I am okay so long as we dont get a horrific car accident or someone jumping off a building. People decide to go their separate ways with no rancor or bitter feelings. That would be an ok ending for me. I am just happy that at some point they were able to at least acknowledge their feelings for each other. That kiss outside the studio was on fire!

I love this so much I had to rewatch. It leaves me with only one question….Is their love strong enough to withstand the sacrifice?
It is clear to me that they cannot continue on the same track. Is there a middle ground that will insure lasting happiness. In a way this reminds me of the bl Love, Life on the Line and Where Your Eyes Linger. It also reminds me of myself. When my soulmate and I fell in love I had to make a life changing decision. Although we grew up in the same neighborhood our lives had gone in totally different directions. My circle consisted of high society, sororities, fraternities, potential doctors, executives, judges, fancy parties, cheese and wine. His circle
consisted of guys who worked at the steel mills, the post office and attended night college, beer and popcorn. I chose him . I gave up my lifestyle. Was it the right choice for me? Hell yes. I would do it all over again. Sometimes I still run into friends from the old days. I am not envious at all. I chose the path that was best for me and for him. Yeong knew Hoe felt uncomfortable at the dinner. The others were not being rude or unfriendly. They were just being themselves. If I like riding in a Benz and you are ok in an old beater does that make me a bad person. I dont think so. Yeong likes designer clothes. Hoe is blue jeans and tennis shoes. That may seem superficial to some but they should not be taken lightly. When we got engaged and started apartment hunting my then fiancé eagerly took me to the place he had selected. I would not get out the car. If I didnt like the outside or even the
surrounding area I knew I wouldnt like the inside. He didnt wince or even blink an eye. He just said ok let’s keep looking and took me to dinner. That is the kind of compromise that is needed for a healthy long lasting relationship. I dont know if Hoe and Yeong have reached that point or if they ever will. I look forward to next week. Like Love in the Big City I am excited to see how this ends.

But this life…When I was in high school I would visit my cousins. They lived in what was called the projects( ghetto, tenements). I met a boy . My family wasnt rich but the world I lived in was so different. He had to take two busses to get to where I lived. As much as we liked each other there was no way to bridge the gap. I was college bound. He was just trying to survive. When we were together we could pretend. Eventually we accepted the inevitable. I stopped visiting and he stopped coming. Sometimes love is not enough. That is what I love about this bl. It is so raw and realistic.

Absolutely amazing! I loved ep 5 & 6. …the way Do Hoe and JuYeong look at each other. The nuances and body language alone convey such sexual tension. There is no doubt that they still have feelings for one another. But is that
enough to sustain a healthy relationship. The social and economic divide is depicted in such a graphic way. I love how even the contrast in their lifestyles are shown. At this point I can see them parting ways at the end. I just hope it will be amicable. Life happens. It reminds me of a friend who ran into her first love after many years. They tried again but eventually agreed it was best to part and just keep the happy memories. I dont like open endings but they still have so many hurdles to jump over. Maybe we will get a part 2. The side story with the student is so realistic. I remember attending a piano recital with my son. He was around 10 at the time. There was an Asian boy around the same age. When he was called to perform his mom sat next to him as he played his piece. Myself nor any of the other parents did that. I still remember the look on the child’s face. He looked so stressed out. The mother looked so stern. I applaud the writers and production team on how they have woven this into the storyline. It helps us understand Yeong even more. Regarding Hyeon Ho it is clear he is not giving up on Yeong. I agree with one thing…until Yeong changes that passcode he still has a shot. Next week should be a real roller coaster and I am ready for the ride.

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. I am glad to hear you are in thraphy. One clarification. My mom was the foster parent. My husband and I adopted our two oldest when they were infants. The third one was a biological miracle. Both my sons have made me a grandmother. My daughter left home to pursue a career but returned home when her dad became ill. After his death she has remained with me. They are all three my children. Thank you but iam not a superwoman. I just did what I felt any mother should do. Still you are right. No matter how much love we gave our adopted children there is still a piece missing in their hearts.
IAs their mom I have and will always be there. I am their safe haven. I am happy that my biological son has a heart of gold and loves them both dearly. When I am gone he will be there for each.I still dont know if I will watch. I know it is fiction but the pain and angst is real.Take care of your heart. Give yourself some grace.

Thank for your candid comments. I have been trying to decide if I should watch or not because like in the series I raised three children, two boys and a girl. One son and my daughter were adopted at birth. The other son is my biological child. As you suggested there are so many issues to deal with.
I have found that age does not lessen the inner
conflict and pain. In some cases it
gets worse. I too reject the premise that biology always is best. My parents fostered two brothers from the ages of two and four. As adults they sought and found their biological mother and family. Within a year the youngest brother returned to the town my parents had raised him in. He said we were his real family. His brother maintained contact with my mom up until her death. As for my own three. They have a loving relationship with each other. As far as I know the two
that are adoptive have not actively sought their biological parents but I have had to help each one as they have struggled at times. I have read several comments which suggest the series has some very
emotional scenes. How would you define the overall tone. Is it hopeful or sad? Does it have a happy ending?

Kidnap and Jack and Joker

I agree. I am currently watching both.

Thank you..I am glad I am not the only one that feels this way.

This just keeps getting better and better. This may not be considered a bl but the nuances are there and the intensity between Saint and Shin is undeniable. GMMTV has struck gold with these two. Call it what you want I am in it until the end.

I know this series has a number of flaws but I really have been drawn into it. The toxicity of the second couple may be very disturbing but it is really very realistic. I have witnessed such relationships. They never turned out well for either party. I am curious as to how their relationship will play out. The part I dislike the most is the ex gf storyline. It feels like the writers lost their way. When all else fails bring in an ex gf who borders on
being psychotic and obsessed . So it looks like at least three episodes of
deceit, lies, and misunderstandings. The only thing missing at this point is a car crash with one of our main leads stuck in coma somewhere. Ten episodes would have been more than enough. 12 is an unnecessary
travesty. I am trying my best not to give this up but with Jack and Joker, Kidnap, Blue Canvas of Youthful Days, and See Your Love on the table this one is fading fast.

I usually cant watch episodes dealing with death but this episode was heartbreaking and beautiful at the same time. It was executed very well and was very realistic. I still remember when my best friend called me to say she had been diagnosed with a terminal disease. Our two mls have such great chemistry. I dont know where the next episode will take us but I am all in.

In my opinion the star of the last episode is Grandma. Love her! Getting Jack and Joker to sleep together was so fun to watch!