Idk how you can say that after story of kunning palace, legend of shen li, and hidden love. C-dramas have always…
Yes, it's the kind of tight writing and good pacing I miss! I didn't care for the episodes covering her stepmother nearer to the end and after a certain special character dies, but besides that I thought it was gripping from start to finish. Though Wanning is SO icky. *shivers*
Someone suggested I stop at minute 31ish of episode 40 and it was a good call. So glad I did. There is a 5 minute happy episode that overturns the open ending but it's only available on certain sites. @TaliaToo helped me find a link so I could watch it. She's active on the thread and she can probably find it for you if you want a safe link. :)
Oh, so it is a glitch with MDL? Ha, I thought it was just me.
But hey, I went out of the country for a few weeks, and stopped getting email notifications when someone would comment on one of my comments. No idea why it stopped (cause when I tried to change notifications it didn't work π). You can give that hack a shot? π€£
Idk how you can say that after story of kunning palace, legend of shen li, and hidden love. C-dramas have always…
The Double was good, too! Cdramas are extremely stylized, way further from reality, and everyone looks too perfect (even more than Kdramas), which usually turns me off from the fantasy ones especially, but a few with super high ratings I have tried, and really enjoyed, to my surprise. They had much better pacing and writing than I anticipated. And some very good chemistry and acting at times, too (Zhao Lusi for the win! I now get why everyone adores her.).
Lovely Runner has spoiled folks. They seem to be comparing everything to it. I love Sunjae but damn...at some…
Yes, your P.S. is spot on. You don't watch Kdramas for "new" and "innovative." Those of us who like them just want a good variation on a theme that's been told dozens and dozens of times. βΊοΈ
then why don't you guys find out a drama with a plot that's not basic and watch that one?
Have you tried Move To Heaven? And the dramas without romance (crime/action/slice of life) tend to be more innovative or feel more unique. You can try some of those, perhaps?
I guess you haven't seen a lot of Kdramas, my friend.
Well, in my experience the ML is always somewhat similar to the description you provided of the ML here (innocent and pure, and a novice in love). I can think of Weightlifting Fairy and Fight For My Way just off the top of my head that had MLs who dated before, but most are not written that way. That's all I meant. You seemed surprised that the ML was written that way, which gave me the impression you haven't seen many Kdrama rom-coms. I apologize if I misunderstood your comment. Looking back my response does sound dismissive.
There is more variety amongst types of FLs, but the way you described the ML is what you'll find in most Kdramas (in my experience).
They are just posting their opinions, and there's nothing wrong with criticizing bad tropes and practices that…
Also, cliches and tropes ARE Kdramas. If people want innovation and something different, then don't watch Kdramas. They just mix and match or give some spice to the already existing collection of tried and true tropes/cliches and recycle them or mix and match them in new ways. Complaining about tropes and cliches in Kdramas (especially rom-coms), is like complaining there's too much gore in a John Wick movie, or too many people dying in a Zombie movie. It's part and parcel with the genre, folks. π
People complaining about the Kdrama formula is even more baffling; they do realize that ALL romantic Kdramas have SMLs, and that these SMLs NEVER end up with the FL, right? It's just a rarely broken parameter of the Kdrama formula. π It just drives me nuts that people come to a predictable genre and proceed to demand unpredictability. *sigh* π€·ββοΈ
Interesting. I've never seen a drama with a rating of 8.7 or above on MDL I didn't like. I guess that just means…
I ultimately still disagree that MDL ratings are useless, but I hear you. (I think it's nice that MDL offers a variety of ways for people to research whether they like something. For you, that's reviews and comments, for me, that's ratings and comments.) You made some excellent points!
I will just venture to say, from where I sit, in order for this rating to have been manipulated extensively by fans (unless there's something I'm not understanding about how creating accounts and rating drama works, which is totally possible), they would collectively have had to create tens of thousands of fake accounts (since it finished airing) to keep this score super high. That seems excessive, even for MDL fans to accomplish (since the number of viewers has probably increased by 30,000 viewers since I started watching this).
And I don't disagree with you that the score will most likely drop, but the high score is super common right after a popular drama on MDL finishes airing anyway. It will flatten out as time passes. It always does with every drama on here UNLESS it is stellar in every way.
This is by far the best K drama I have seen in a while. Kudos to the webtoon creator for making this story, It…
It's been fascinating to me to see people's perspectives on this, and very telling about their views towards mental health, and each person's agency in their own mental/emotional suffering despite biological or environmental factors. Those with more traditional views seem to enjoy it, those with more progressive views seem to think it's toxic and damaging. So interesting to observe the different takes!
A conversation piece, for sure. I have yet to watch it. :)
This show made me even more depressed. Why depression is still judged as weak, selfish, etc..?
Entertainment is not meant to alleviate/help with mental health struggles; at best it can provide some food for thought and provide a few quotable lines and at worst it can spread misinformation about reality (which is the most common of the two options, I'd say). Can it help with mental health struggles? Maybe for some. Also, entertainment is not meant to be instructive (or even very accurate most of the time). Can it be instructive? Sometimes, but only if taken with a grain of salt and tested against more reliable sources of information.
That said, this is why I won't watch Daily Dose of Sunshine. I figure, based on observations, synopsis and comments, that it would bring up topics or issues I don't find entertaining to engage or think about, and therefore would not enjoy.
Entertainment also reflects the biases of its makers; Korea and many who live there seem to have more traditional views of suicide, therefore it makes sense their take would be more traditonal?
He must have acknowledged the awful way he was treati g the rape victim and apologised to her then at last did…
Oh, sorry I misunderstood. Yeah, I was more satisfied with the ML's arc. There were several episodes (I think around Episode 10ish) where he became very disappointed with himself and angry at how corrupt he had become.
Also, those early episodes had a lot going on and were a bit confusing, and while the ML was a terrible person at that point, I think they did a good job showing that his indifference towards fighting for justice and fighting against injustice came from watching the corrupt military justice system at work for years. He had seen that it was never fair or just and there was virtually no way of making it fair without jeopordizing his position and standing, so he stopped caring about which side he was fighting for and distanced himself emotionally and mentally from the cases so he could just do what his superiors wanted. That's how I saw his character; the FL starts working on him after that and he does start improving after those first few episodes, but it's not until Episode 10 that everything clicks and he becomes a champion for justice even though he knows it will always be an uphill--and maybe even at times a fruitless--battle.
Once I saw him agonizing through that realization that he was a scumbag, and change drastically afterwards, I was pretty satisfied.
It was Noh Tae Man who never got that development which is why his character arc bothered me.
Also, just a thought, but you might want to consider marking your comments as spoilers? :)
Someone suggested I stop at minute 31ish of episode 40 and it was a good call. So glad I did. There is a 5 minute happy episode that overturns the open ending but it's only available on certain sites. @TaliaToo helped me find a link so I could watch it. She's active on the thread and she can probably find it for you if you want a safe link. :)
But hey, I went out of the country for a few weeks, and stopped getting email notifications when someone would comment on one of my comments. No idea why it stopped (cause when I tried to change notifications it didn't work π). You can give that hack a shot? π€£
And by the way, it's been glorious.
There is more variety amongst types of FLs, but the way you described the ML is what you'll find in most Kdramas (in my experience).
People complaining about the Kdrama formula is even more baffling; they do realize that ALL romantic Kdramas have SMLs, and that these SMLs NEVER end up with the FL, right? It's just a rarely broken parameter of the Kdrama formula. π It just drives me nuts that people come to a predictable genre and proceed to demand unpredictability. *sigh* π€·ββοΈ
I will just venture to say, from where I sit, in order for this rating to have been manipulated extensively by fans (unless there's something I'm not understanding about how creating accounts and rating drama works, which is totally possible), they would collectively have had to create tens of thousands of fake accounts (since it finished airing) to keep this score super high. That seems excessive, even for MDL fans to accomplish (since the number of viewers has probably increased by 30,000 viewers since I started watching this).
And I don't disagree with you that the score will most likely drop, but the high score is super common right after a popular drama on MDL finishes airing anyway. It will flatten out as time passes. It always does with every drama on here UNLESS it is stellar in every way.
A conversation piece, for sure. I have yet to watch it. :)
That said, this is why I won't watch Daily Dose of Sunshine. I figure, based on observations, synopsis and comments, that it would bring up topics or issues I don't find entertaining to engage or think about, and therefore would not enjoy.
Entertainment also reflects the biases of its makers; Korea and many who live there seem to have more traditional views of suicide, therefore it makes sense their take would be more traditonal?
Also, those early episodes had a lot going on and were a bit confusing, and while the ML was a terrible person at that point, I think they did a good job showing that his indifference towards fighting for justice and fighting against injustice came from watching the corrupt military justice system at work for years. He had seen that it was never fair or just and there was virtually no way of making it fair without jeopordizing his position and standing, so he stopped caring about which side he was fighting for and distanced himself emotionally and mentally from the cases so he could just do what his superiors wanted. That's how I saw his character; the FL starts working on him after that and he does start improving after those first few episodes, but it's not until Episode 10 that everything clicks and he becomes a champion for justice even though he knows it will always be an uphill--and maybe even at times a fruitless--battle.
Once I saw him agonizing through that realization that he was a scumbag, and change drastically afterwards, I was pretty satisfied.
It was Noh Tae Man who never got that development which is why his character arc bothered me.
Also, just a thought, but you might want to consider marking your comments as spoilers? :)