Eleison

They're definitely showing that he's conditioned to let girls walk all over him. 😅

I suppose there no way for mods to keep the individual episode ratings locked from access until those episodes have aired?

It was not a consensual kiss, though. He was not enthused, even though they played it up for laughs.

I think the purpose of that scene was to make us laugh while showing us that the ML is a seasoned vet in the dating department (and probably because he's a girl magnet) 😉, and show us that while he's dated a ton, he's morally against having an affair.

These are great points. I like that there is enough ambiguity in the way this is filmed to leave room for different interpretations. ☺️

Yeah, I think we will escape both of those tropes in this drama!

I was giggling up a storm when he opened the car door to see the guy who was gonna give him a promotion inside. He knew he was so dead. 😅

And it was kind of a hilarious kiss, too. 😅

I think it's more complicated than that; there's more to it we just don't know about yet, I think.

Excellent points! And well said. ☺️

Yeah, that's how I read his character, too. Relatable in some ways, but hard to watch and hard to root for. 😅

But I know he'll get there. 😉

Cutting him down to size just a bit? 😅

I like these theories!

I'm kind of proud of the creators for writing the ML with a history since of late they HAVE written so many of the MLs a little over-the-top squeakly clean as far as romantic relatonships go... like there are tons of guys reaching their 30's who've never been in a relationship but are fabulous at it immediately once they give it a go. 😅

I'm not a huge fan of the ML at the moment for a variety for reasons, but I'm pretty confident he'll grow on me.

It seems like we probably won't see eye to on this, but I think it works both ways: thinking you should have something you don't deserve, and feeling like a task is beneath you because you believe you deserve better. Entitlement, egotism and overconfidence are all similar things and stem from the same problem: an overinflated sense of your own importance.

If he was made to be a facilities worker cleaning bathrooms, then that is not fair and he should put up a stink not because it's demeaning work but because it's not what he got hired for. But he's just doing the same thing in a different department and doing a less glamorous version of the work. He's worried about his image and status, hence, feels the work is beneath him. It's work that not many relish because of the nature of what he's dealing with, but it's still technically the same work. It's totally fine to quit his job if he doesn't like it, but I get the impression it's the way it makes him look that he can't stand.

I find his behavior understandable, to a degree--of course someone who's flying high and thinking he's pretty great stuff will chaff at this sort of transfer, but at the same time, but his response is not admirable or the way someone who is humble and sees themselves in a more objective light would respond (I think the drama intentionally writes him this way so he has some room to grow). I think it's leaning into a criticism of the ladder-climbing in the corporate world that makes everything about status and promotions. I like that, but he hasn't grown into the proper perspective yet. I like character arcs so I'm excited to see how he grows, I just think he's kind of lame at the moment. He feels very human, but still lame.😅

I don't think that's an accurate comparison. All these roles are within the audit department and they are writing reports about their findings, correct? He's still doing that, just in a less glamorous setting.

I think she should have given him a better reason, but with that said, the ML says this to In Ah when he pushes back after she tells him she's moving him to a new department: "I'm the only person who can do this job." Hmmm... that's not a thing. She's right. That's just not true, and demonstrates that he has an inflated ego (at the moment).

He literally said that the only person who could do the job was himself. That's entitled: thinking you're more special and important than you are.

I think he deserved a better reason, perhaps, but quitting would be the more mature thing to do rather than taking it out on everyone at work and at home and trying to finagle his way back into a spot he feels he deserves. Sure, perhaps the job market is pretty bad, let's assume, so he doesn't want to job search, but it's no reason to stay and be mistreated if indeed he felt that happened to him.

Besides, getting demoted means getting a reduction in pay/status. This "demotion" is between his ears because he sees this work as beneath him and lame/embarrassing (and it destroys his image), but I don't think he's been technically demoted, just transferred to the same role in a different team.

And the dude is definitely pampered and has a pretty high opinion of his capabilities and work. I think it's being exaggerated here for comedic effect, and I'm sure we'll more of the "good guy" aspect to his character come through later as the story develops.

Entitled in the sense that he feels too special for tasks he deems beneath him, and feels like he deserves more than he gets and should be treated as indispensable. He certainly thinks he's the best, but there are always a lot of great employees at a company. To think you're the best amongst thousands is... entitled.

I'd love a list of these memorable, cliche-less and trope-less classics you speak of. I guess I haven't seen them!

I think low budget productions do the tropes/cliches poorly, but the Kdrama was birthed from soap operas and makjangs. They've gotta have those tropes and cliches embedded in their bones, or else they're something else entirely.

My experience is many people (many of which are Kdrama watchers) love a tried and true formula done well (creatively and with innovation, but fundamentally the thing stays the same at its core).

I feel like frustration over cliches in dramas is like getting annoyed by sand at the beach. Now, some beaches have softer sand and better waves/clearer and warmer water and those are obviously the nicer beaches (and everyone has their besch preferences). But the sand is there to stay. There's no separating these two, sand and beach, Kdrama and tropes. 😉

I think they're also implying that as the youngest boy amongst a bunch of older sisters, he's been spoiled and pampered. Totally explains his entitlement at work. His family was adorable, but their dynamic was telling. 😉😅

So, the ML with his mom and sisters filled in a lot of his story. He's entitled and egotistical and has apparently just had to sit around and wait for girls to throw themselves at him (and apparently it's happened a decent amount 😅). If people complain about MLs never having a past, this drama's for you!

Anyway, he's the golden child. 😉 That's all that needs to be said to encapsulate his character (so far).

Definitely ready for some development in his character since the first two episodes don't make him very appealing so far (the character, that is; the actor is doing fine).

The FL has a growing mystery about her and maybe she demoted him for other reasons... I think they want us to think she's trying to cover up something shady but I'm pretty sure it's a red herring.

Cracked up when the ML shot himself in the foot regarding his promotion. 😅