Boy, he laid a bang-up guilt trip on Oma, though, didn't he.
Technique can only carry you so far. Either you have "IT" or you don't. It's so strange but some people can act and some people just can't. I guess it's like how some people can sing and some people can't. There's so much amazing talent in the Asian film community that I feel like I've been robbed my whole life thinking only hollywood stars are the best in the business. I'm shocked at the talent sometimes.
Boy, he laid a bang-up guilt trip on Oma, though, didn't he.
Really good points! I completely agree with the needing to experience those emotions ourselves for some psychological relief. I really gravitate toward all the tragic stuff and very rarely seek out a comedy/lighthearted project intentionally. I need that juicy drama lol.
That scene with the mom and son in the car is one that stayed with me forever after. It definitely left a deep impression and I don’t think I’ll ever forget it, that’s how powerfully and well filmed it was. Kudos to the writer/director for that. While the film itself on a whole isn’t in my top list of favourites by any means, that one scene stands out above all the other hundreds maybe even thousands of films I’ve watched. They made such a good creative choice not to show his face the whole time. I’m not quite sure what effect it gave me, but I know for a fact that if I had seen more of his face it wouldn’t have been as impactful? Actually, thinking about it now, the effect it gave might be that by not showing his face it was like a further injustice, because it was as if they were amplifying his unimportance to those who bullied and abused him. That’s how the bullies viewed him, right? Nameless, faceless, and unimportant. Idk. It just had such a great impact and translated very well on screen. Gosh, the mom saying that stuff made me feel like throwing myself off a bridge, never mind her own son! I’m pretty sure my jaw was on the floor too. Oh yeah and then when she later saw the video of his being bullied, she acted that so well that I think I cried.
Boy, he laid a bang-up guilt trip on Oma, though, didn't he.
You might want to consider making that a spoiler haha. I have to say I was NOT expecting him to be taken out like that after all the bullying crap we saw. This is one of those films that makes me think "Why do I do this to myself?" It's so frustrating to watch bullying scenes because I just wanna reach through the screen and beat the crap outta the aggressors.
Well, I agree but I don't ever really get an answer when I ask if this level of bullying really takes place in…
I get what you mean about being obsessed. It's to the point that I don't even want to watch American films or any other kind of film anymore except for Asian ones lolol.
Well, I agree but I don't ever really get an answer when I ask if this level of bullying really takes place in…
Omg I watch Bleak Night at least twice a year and always cry like a little bich at the end. It was one of the first Korean films I ever watched and is definitely responsible for making me fall in love with the Asian film industry. I tried all about lily Chou Chou too and couldn’t stomach it. Most films that I watch I just skip through to see if there are any interesting parts. Lily Chou Chou I dropped at first then out of curiosity went back to it a few months later and skip-watched the rest. It would have been better if I had just left it dropped.
Well, I agree but I don't ever really get an answer when I ask if this level of bullying really takes place in…
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's about the kid fantasizing about it. Or maybe a warning to bullies not to mess with people because what goes around comes around. There is SO much content out there about severe bullying like this in South Korean films so I think it's safe to assume that it is a pretty legitimate issue. Yikes x_x
Since no one else is here, Geegee, I'm not going to worry about spoiler tags. Do you think the girl was ever a…
Yes that chick I'm convinced was imaginary. Which is just so sad when you think about it.
Everyone is always trying to put themselves above someone else, especially the poor because they are the most miserable. Thinking back to this movie now, some parts remind me of another film called Clean Up (2018). We seem to have similar tastes in films so I wondered if you'd like that one. It's one of my favourite films because it took me by surprise. I thought it wouldn't be much but it ended up being absolutely amazing. I don't like to hype stuff up too much though because then expectations get too high and disappointment is inevitable haha.
Hey Geegee. Beautiful explanation. I thought the same as far as the goat metaphor being the girl from the moment…
Yeh no surprise seeing you here we seem to watch all the same movies lol. I’m pretty sure she hadn’t given up on fighting back until she saw the dude running away. Then she definitely stopped caring because he was the one thing that made her care about life again. As for not really fighting back in a rape situation I have heard lots that that is quite common. That women or men in that situation sometimes freeze up from shock so I’m not too surprised.
I think the plot is good enough but there is something about the execution that just felt a bit off. I can't really…
I completely agree. I've thought really hard about what it is that is just a bit off and this is the best I can come up with;
It felt like the writers didn't keep their focus the whole way through the film. It was as if half way through they decided to make it more about Seobok getting revenge vs being protected. It seemed like the writing lacked direction some of the time. Even though they had this amazing plot, they didn't commit to certain themes enough. Like, perhaps we could have seen more between Seobok and his mother to make us empathize better with how her death might have affected him. His whole blow-up at the end just felt a bit underwhelming because they didn't build up to it appropriately. They should have shown more of how he was experimented on and how they were bastards, and, like I said, more of Seobok and his mom, and they shouldn't have made it so that he voluntarily wanted to go back to the lab. That felt a bit misplaced. I think the vibes they were trying to go for was that Seobok was this beautiful creation and how could anyone want to destroy him, yet even the fact that they were suddenly trying to kill him felt random and contrived. No matter how they tried to explain it, it just didn't make sense to me that they hire someone to protect him and then try to kill him. They had all the pieces to the puzzle with this plot but didn't put them together in the right way haha. With just a few tweeks, this could have been something absolutely phenomenal. I was just looking for a bit more reason to back Seobok on his quest for destruction at the end like with the 2005 film The Island with Scarlett Johansson and Ewan McGregor. Even after saying all that, I'm still not convinced that this is 100% of the problem with this movie lol.
I wouldn’t say I’m that advanced. I just know enough to get the general idea of what they are saying plus I follow body language closely. Definitely know all the swear words too haha. That’s the first thing I learnt in Korean from all the swearing and cursing lol. Im from Canada and I completely agree. Korean dramas have a very unique “flare”.
That scene with the mom and son in the car is one that stayed with me forever after. It definitely left a deep impression and I don’t think I’ll ever forget it, that’s how powerfully and well filmed it was. Kudos to the writer/director for that. While the film itself on a whole isn’t in my top list of favourites by any means, that one scene stands out above all the other hundreds maybe even thousands of films I’ve watched. They made such a good creative choice not to show his face the whole time. I’m not quite sure what effect it gave me, but I know for a fact that if I had seen more of his face it wouldn’t have been as impactful? Actually, thinking about it now, the effect it gave might be that by not showing his face it was like a further injustice, because it was as if they were amplifying his unimportance to those who bullied and abused him. That’s how the bullies viewed him, right? Nameless, faceless, and unimportant. Idk. It just had such a great impact and translated very well on screen. Gosh, the mom saying that stuff made me feel like throwing myself off a bridge, never mind her own son! I’m pretty sure my jaw was on the floor too. Oh yeah and then when she later saw the video of his being bullied, she acted that so well that I think I cried.
Everyone is always trying to put themselves above someone else, especially the poor because they are the most miserable. Thinking back to this movie now, some parts remind me of another film called Clean Up (2018). We seem to have similar tastes in films so I wondered if you'd like that one. It's one of my favourite films because it took me by surprise. I thought it wouldn't be much but it ended up being absolutely amazing. I don't like to hype stuff up too much though because then expectations get too high and disappointment is inevitable haha.
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It felt like the writers didn't keep their focus the whole way through the film. It was as if half way through they decided to make it more about Seobok getting revenge vs being protected. It seemed like the writing lacked direction some of the time. Even though they had this amazing plot, they didn't commit to certain themes enough. Like, perhaps we could have seen more between Seobok and his mother to make us empathize better with how her death might have affected him. His whole blow-up at the end just felt a bit underwhelming because they didn't build up to it appropriately. They should have shown more of how he was experimented on and how they were bastards, and, like I said, more of Seobok and his mom, and they shouldn't have made it so that he voluntarily wanted to go back to the lab. That felt a bit misplaced. I think the vibes they were trying to go for was that Seobok was this beautiful creation and how could anyone want to destroy him, yet even the fact that they were suddenly trying to kill him felt random and contrived. No matter how they tried to explain it, it just didn't make sense to me that they hire someone to protect him and then try to kill him. They had all the pieces to the puzzle with this plot but didn't put them together in the right way haha. With just a few tweeks, this could have been something absolutely phenomenal. I was just looking for a bit more reason to back Seobok on his quest for destruction at the end like with the 2005 film The Island with Scarlett Johansson and Ewan McGregor. Even after saying all that, I'm still not convinced that this is 100% of the problem with this movie lol.
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