InspectorMegre

It is somehow ... shallow? I do not feel connected to it. Lots of scenes passing by like watching scenery out of a train/car/bus, just passing by, not experiencing it. I dont like watching FL bc the role is dumb and the actress is somehow... not there..... , and I dislike watching ML bc he cannot act, it is all pretending, and he looks so sickly and tired
I dont really remember anyone from that drama. I actually like watching the stiff Lady Secretary and her slightly chubby but very handsome and healthy energetic Young Master - but otjerwise he is a jerk so I dislike watching him.

But in First Man, I remember JM/SR and BH bc actors are very genuine, solid on the screen, natural and energetic in their roles, there is a warm healthy vibe around them.

less, bc Chloe made that stupid decision so the drama is now entirely based on suicidal actions, hurting each other, and suffering, so it feels like watching a war or experiencing a severe constipation problem Kardashians-like situation

NEEDLESS drama is too much, NEEDLESS pain is too much. I dont want to watch pain and suffering without anythng positive pulling forward

but hey someone got it to get to 7.2.
ANd I am starting to fast forward and skip watching

no fridays for entire april bc of ... baseball?
and then .. may has some election debates

Who is the dad of HY's miscarried baby? That baby was miscarried while HY was spying on pregnant SK - and I think that is Lapdog's baby but I do not remember now why I concluded that back then.
Someone else said the miscarried baby is Chairman's son - what is the evidence for that?

JH's dad is a mystery to even Lapdog - is it also Lapdog's and he didnt know?

After 30 yrs of TOTALLY ignoring the existence of her son, HY finally sought to find JH bc she wanted a trusted henchman of her own blood. She actively searched and then realized he was right there.

Is any of HY's kids by Chairman's son? I thought that the miscarried son was Lapdogs? and JH is a mystery to even Lapdog - is it also Lapdogs and he didnt know?

Hm I am curious why you didnt like Heesu? It is relatively similar to this one bc it shows the emotional rather than physical side of love, straight friends, etc.
Well it is a high school drama so the characters are not so aware and outspoken like in Cherry

Or - you dont like kdramas in general?

This is so ... well... I dont know how to say it - so revealing of Chinese culture, this very strong belief that this is real. And in fact... it is :)

The filming and topic totally reminds me of Stephen Chow movies, such as Kung Fu Hustle and its dark poor and/or underground hoods. And It has this wickedly twisted dark humor, such as Third Crown Prince looking like a hippie-biker with a lollypop...

The movie has all this glitz special effects
but the value of the movie is the very rare but powerful dialogue, such as Buffy's dying message towards the end of ep 8, starting at min 31.

She asked him to love the world for her, whether it is messy and even the gods cannot do anything about it.
She said: "I think that the ones who might really change the world for the better are just ordinary people like us. "

She asked him to wish for world peace. Bc -
An old man told her once:

magic cannot defeat spiritual power,
spiritual power cannot defeat karma,
and karma cannot defeat a wish.
So a person with a wish is strongest of all.

So actually the drama should be rated 10 for the messages
I gave it 8 bc of all the frills :) I watched ep 1,2 and then fast forwarded through all the special effects etc
and watched ep 8

Buffy Chen is an amazing actress, really.
ML actor is ... meh...

FYI This is a real BL jdrama kinda sorta similar to kdrama Heesu in Class 2, about true love between people, who just happen to be male gay, highly recommended https://kisskh.at/69463-30sai-made-doteida-to-mahotsukai-ni-narerurashi

please stop bothering me. So my comment on only about imagination too, why are you so offended... ?

AND FYI, Everyone these days has to worry about AIDS., genital herpes, hepatitis C, clamydia, etc, even syphilis. IT IS ALL OVER BILLDBOARDS IN BIG CITIES IN THE USA.
Every 3rd american has genital herpes.

So get educated and stop bsing, Troll.
Learn to care about PEOPLE.

AND STOP WRITING TO ME AND WASTING MY TIME
FAREWELL

and that person wrote again - and I just blocked them. I will NOT be replying to anyone here anymore. I am DONE on this page.

Super cute, realistic, and very funny story of true love. A true rom-com.
>>>> I recommend this drama to anyone - straight or not, young or old, first timers or married for 100 yrs. <<<<<

The drama shows what true love looks like, acts like and thinks like...... It is true love between two very kind nice people.

It is filmed in a really fun and creative way too. The music is fantastic. Camera is so creative. That scene when the water bottle drops from Kurosawa's hand, outside of the restaurant...
SUCH REAL DETAILS, filmed and acted so well, it is so endearing and so funny too

This is a rare jdrama that has good acting :)
The script is great. This is a story of true love as it is in real life, to normal nice people. It is sexy in good taste, it is caring without soapy, it is very very very GENUINE and realistic and HEALTHY. It does not have false prudishness like most straight kdramas have, and it does not have overdone lewdness and twisted sexuality - esp. associating s.x with violence and games - like so many BL dramas have.

This drama is a super cute story of true love. So different than most BL dramas which honestly are too lewd or playing games. This drama too has a very common plot of a convinced gay male who runs into a closeted gay male and kinda shocks him and cajoles him into it, however, it lacks the sexualization and predatory feeling that so many BL dramas have.

This drama is UNIVERSAL, you could play it with straight or any other ppl too.
Kurosaw is so sensitive, caring, attentive, honest, and gentle yet sexy, he is a true love that anyone - straight or gay - could only dream about, as ppl like this are very rare.
The same for Achi, he is so honest, self aware, brave in stating his feelings, and extremely caring and kind too. The two have found each other, the cats of the same kind :) kind honest ppl.

Also, I was thinking, the only way to produce such a great Japanese male lover, so sophisticated, sensitive, caring, considerate, gentle, hot like Kurosawa was to make him gay. If Kurosawa was into women, he might have not been this caring all the time bc it is just not how you treat women in a sexist society.... most likely, it would have been a lot harder to keep the equality between the lovers. Sad but true :)
Also, I was thinking, the only way to produce such a brave shy person like Achi in Japan was to make him gay. If he were a woman, he would probably suffer from inferiority and self repression to some degree. He is free to be brave and to express bc he is male, that is my educated guess.

But - the love between them is portrayed in UNIVERSAL way - love between two PEOPLE. Straight relationships could benefit from this story so much.

The plot is actually a mimic on the common straight plot from kdramas - a popular charmer suave guy falls in love with a clumzy insecure not-popular shy loser chick who is KIND good person. In the straight context, this plot is super sexist. The female is the dumb one and the male is the smart one who runs her life bc she is so incompetent she cannot survive on her own. Such dramas glorify the man as the "higher" one.

In this gay drama, the main protagonist is an insecrure clumzy unpopular shy target of love.
But this drama is a twist on that, and how it is done is so ... well done. The drama does not put anyone down, nor does it make the "more suave" person more "interesting" or "higher" in status. The suave guy who is pursuing him is popular yet genuinely kind, decent, honest person. And the shy guy is not dumb or ignorantly unaware... The shy guy is smart, observant, self reflective, and proactive.
Truely they are equals.

As for acting, Kurosawa is perfect. That actor might be gay or bi in real life. Achi actor is .. hm.. sometimes it is obvious he is pretending. Is the actor a straight person in real life? he was acting scenes with a woman a lot more naturally.


I would encourage everyone to read the review that is on the top o MDL reviews, by TangYang. It says it all :) I just filled in some holes.

This drama reminds me of BL kdrama Heesu from Class 2 which talks about two gay male high schoolers in love and one of them getting out of the closet. Heesu drama also has positive female models and female friends and straight friends and does not portray life as "planet inhabited by gay males" as most BL dramas do. Hessu drama is balanced, just like this drama.

yeah that's why only BL watch BL... bc it is too ... hyper and over the top
This drama on the other hand is universally applicable to ALL

you might also like kdrama Heesu from Class 2, has similar "true love" approach

bc this is true love story, universally applicable to anyone

you might like kdrama Heesu from Class 2 also, it has the same "angle" and shows true love in a very decent way

Chairman the evil one!!!! First he says - I will marry them if SR wants - and then he says - I will marry them, bc i already decided that SR is fickle and she wants to marry him. >>>> CHAIRMAN IS A PROBLEM<<<< he is not a good character at all.

HY is behaving like a Mad Hatter, issuing orders to hurt kill destroy like every day... and sure I do hope that backfires soon.... I am tired of watching psycho HY - here I insert a frustrated emoji - I want her to go down and out asap.

JH actor is sooo flat and that is sad, he is ruining the drama. He has the interesting script but cannot act. JM actress has a terrible trashy script so all her acting is wasted. Wow what an unfortunate combo.

I was ok until the scene whenJM hugs BH and thinks all those thoughts but DID NOT TELL HIM. That scene sent me off the train tracks and made me question the entire drama bc this is a consistently repeating bad dumb behavior and it is ep 86. By now, the script should have moved on from this - and it did not. .

SO IT IS EP 86 AND JM HAS NOT GROWN MUCH. THAT IS TRASH SCRIPT.

She is too dumb to really care for him.
JM is keeping critical info from her bestie and loyal teammate and the love of her life and putting him in danger... !!!!! that is soooooooooooo DUMB AND SELFISH!!!! IN EP 86!!!!!!

It is Ep 86 and still - JM is not worthy of having BH as her mate.

The sad part is that BH could die, could have permanent damage, could end up in permanent disability or amnesia, and maybe if he recovers - bc it is a drama- he will get up and tell JM that she didnt do anything wrong and not to worry.

BH was going to get hurt anyways since he isnt too smart either so he has to pay for it. THIS WAS UNAVOIDABLE. But a good script would not have JM "kill him" and then he comes back to life and tells her he loves her and she didnt do anything wrong. Actually that part makes me frustrated - also telling TP he did nothing wrong, etc. !!!!! it is TOXIC, not fun to watch, to see ppl lying like that.

JM needs to get OFF that screen asap, or the writer needs to improve her, she is a total and complete moron!!!!! really really really DUMB JANG MI WHO SWALLOWED THE SUN. .... MBC IS GOING DOWN THAT DEADLY PATH AGAIN. .... JM SCRIPT IS ***TRASH***

it is ok that JM is dumb and that BH is not super smart and that they work as a team to solve this problem. I am fine with that - but DO NOT MAKE IT OVERLY STUPID.
It could be easily fixed - just make the JM team slightly smarter, eliminate the most gross stupidities. Bc the plot is not all that bad, except the dumb. JUST DO NOT FILL THE TIME WITH STUPID DETAILS. THERE IS SO MUCH MORE THAT COULD BE SHOWN.

BUT THIS DRAMA INSISTS ON MAJOR AND FILLER STUPIDITIES FOR LIKE 100 EPISODES ALREADY and it is just getting unsufferable

One example of a small detail that really makes the drama OVERLY STUPID: All these good guys are so naive - in ep 86 "can't believe how far HY is going" --- wth how can anyone be so dumb to say that!!!!! HY did so much veeery far out stuff - and JM ppl still dont beleive it... ??? So there is like 15 mins wasted on people saying they cannot believe it... after everything that happened by ep 86!!!!!! and that makes the drama unsufferable.

JM IS INDIRECTLY A VILLAIN WITH HER STUPID HABIT TO KEEP SECRETS FROM HER TEAMMATE.
SHE KEEPS SECRETS - AND SHE KNOWS SHE SHOULDN'T
This is ok until like ... ep 30... But definitely not ok in ep 86!!!!!

JM IS JUST TOO DUMB TO LEARN, and I mean really dumb, like measurable IQ, she is definitely on the far left, lower end of the Bell curve

In fact, this drama is about a mentally undeveloped person JM

*** JM is so dumb that she should not be the main lead for most of the drama. ***

Maybe I should jus tnot watch dailies. To me, this is now a disaster cheap trash plot. It is already past ep 86 and how much did JM change and grow???? The script is made by her stupidities. That is cheap trashy script

I just finished watching Heroes Next Door and the stark contrast between that and this is just.... making me rethink watching this..

First Man trashy parts of the plot gives me the insight into the trashiest darkest muckiest most evil parts of Korean society and belief system. Every culture has its blind evil spots and right now we are looking at one.... Maximum sexism, slavery to parents and family, straght-to-your-face LYING "out of consideration" aka out of fear for your own as# being uncomfortable and out of egotism and desire to control others and how they feel so that YOU are kept comfortable.... anything else I missed here.. ?

this is too long of a post, sorry. Thse are some serious questions I am asking myself now. DO I WANT TO WATCH THIS? There are a lot better older dramas I need to catch up with. It is fun to have a live discussion and keep solving this puzzle piece together, but is this worth it?

I am off now :)

I looked that up, he disappeared while boating in Monaco, French Riviera... I find it hard to believe that someone can disappear in French Riviera!!! when his dad has $$$$ to pay ppl to find him.. But Chairman is not very smart and also does not seem to be into illegal stufff too much

yeah, he is the guy who says I AM GOING TO MARRY YOU BC I LOVE YOU after she says "I am not going to mary you bc I love BH"

- he is quite evil, pushing forward for what *he* wants
and this is NOT a small matter - this is his own behavior independent of his mother - he is truly a psychopath, forcing himself onto others

He also has some decency but - which side will win... ??? HY is such a great swindler, she is gonna get him again :)

it is hard to make something better then My Mister :)

god bless her but she needs help :) so who will it be? JH?

Ok let's go back to The Art of War by Sun Tzu, as the most famous Asian, specifically Chinese, book on war, written over 2,500 years ago. It outlines strategies for winning battles through psychology, intelligence, and deception, arguing that the best victory is winning without fighting and keeping the war as short and painless as possible.

So I am totally against creatiing plot by carnage, that is dumb.
And I am totally against violating the laws of karma and using and harming ppl on the way to revenge.... That is dumb too. Karma is a boomerang and that using others and harming others is gonna come back and bang you down good, so there will be nobody left to do any revenge ...
Thus I am totally against creating plot by all-consuming revenge and behaving like a moth flying into the flame. What is the point of revenge if you are gonna spiritually die and karmically incurr a huuuuge debt so the ppl whom you destroyed and used are gonna all come back to haunt you.
Brainless revenge is against another warrior principle: WHEN YOU FIGHT A MONSTER, DO NOT BECOME A MONSTER.
These faulty choices are ok a little bit in the begining as character flaws BUT I expect them to be resolved asap and not last permanently!!!! Overcoming these faults is a part of character growth