A case that never sat right with me... why is her fiance always so surprised that his girlfriend's SUPPOSED brother…
He acts like an entitled and controlling brat. And yeah the behavior he is complaining about is somewhat insane. An adult entering your house can find you without your clothes on, can run on you and your loved in bed, on you naked in the shower, etc So - a brother should NOT use the passkey to his SINGLE AND DATING sister's house... unless she is away from home and he is housesitting... Later in life he will have a passkey to use if he babysits her kids LOL
And have you seen a brother piggyback his sister from drinking... ? He would put her into a cab.... Esp since Ha Neul and YC are NOT real brother and sister.... and technically CAN have a sexual relationship.
Remember sooo many bad comments about age gap in so many dramas?? Like ... Beyond the Bar, about 40% of the comments was just trash bitching that she was too young for him.... etc
So I suspect that maybe for this kdrama, someone decided to not touch that can of worms and to leave the romance out so that the trolls would not get the ammunition to shoot down the drama.
It is totally true that romance was a huge part of the drama and was never actualized - bc it was not the time... FL and ML were both too busy dealing with their own sh## and FL was stuck to a a copy of her father in form of a harmful husband - who was sick and dying....
But the end of the drama - if James lived - is a start of a clean slate from which anything is possible. I think FL and SuA would need a little time to sync up together and James would need a little time to fully reconver from his father... and then... they are free to be together, free as birds, clean and shiney....
and in fact, their close relationship - first just living as a family group and then I would say becoming lovers and a lifelong pair - is actually the only meaningful choice.
Bc - you live only once and ML IS THE ONLY PERSON WHO CARES FOR FL AND VICE VERSA. So why would they avoid each other and permanently be apart??? THAT IS DUMB!!!!
the best solution is to live together in love and care. he has shown so much love and care for her so far and it would be a terrible choice to throw him out. She gotta melt and forget that parasite husband patterned after her father.
ML actor was the ML in drama On her Wedding Day where he got left out but the woman was immature mean cold and ... an addict. Totaly different situation than here.
ES should get used to being loved. James is her chance :) if he lived to S2 :)
I thnk a huge reason for ES to cry at the end is out of regret for missing that chance for so long, and if she believed he was dead, missing that chance FOREVER. That would be a terrible loss and actually the greatest punishment ever.
Age difference - I am sorry but who cares these days ??? unless it is for money.... Then I would care. Assuming it is love - anything goes... ppl look younger or older and are more or less mature and anything is possible in love.
Imo you TOTALLY nailed down the chaebol mom... totally exposed her human sales game... I disagree about ML FL…
What did I say wrong? are you one of those stucko people? I said what is objectively true - you are free to do whatever you want, AND TO TAKE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR CHOICES. What is wrong in that? you think you are free to do whatever you want and NOT take the consequences for it?
I am talking about learning process, which you are not familiar with, obviously. You think i am brainwashing you JUST BC I AM STATING MY OPINION. I think you hang out with wrong ppl LOL I am not brainwashing you. I am stating - hey, this is what I think. I just like you am free to think what I want to think.
I havent learned from you at all why you dislike ML and FL. You just say you hate them but you never explained it. I explained in other posts why I like them and yeah here I just said I disagree with your opinion about them. If you do not want to hear my opinion, that is PREJUDICIAL, dont you think?
It is a lot more civil to respond to what I said and to say what you agree or not agree with and to state your arguments as to why you hate them and why you dont see the validity in my argument.
Your comments make you sound like a blind hater.... and also someone who is totally unwilling to discuss anything
Omg something is terribly wrong with SML ...... he does not even understand why he is examining SB over and over and over again, coming close to look at her face, holding her and touching her while looking at her face ...... while looking at her eyes so close, looking at him... He cannot feel... ?? Yeah he cannot feel...
Oooouuuugh..... what happened to SML's mother and in his family??? That nice boy is totally frozen and spaced out .... I really suspect Cheabol stepmom somehow killed or eliminated his mother!!! There must be some huuuuuge trauma for the SML to be so out of touch with reality and so ungrounded spaced out person...
Meanwhile, SB, who is totally healthy, is wriggling .... but she is smart enough and knows that hormones are the heart are two different things ... and so she is patient, realizing she is feeling the hormones... But sooner or later, she WILL realize she is feeling the heart too. **** they are a perfect pair !!!!! **** She is soooo good at the store and can do her YT channel in parallel
I vote for this pair. It will require some work as he has to defrost first. She is on her way to becoming a very responsible person and I give her a passing grade even now.
Their acting is so fun and so realistic. I actually love watching them.
=== The ML's brother and YR are another great pair, but I am afraid chaebol mom will try kiling him or at least badly framing him. If YR doesnt step it up, she is gonna lose the man of her life. he is soo fun. I love the acting of those two actors, they totally made it real.
==== I love the acting of ML actor and I totally cannot stand the acting of FL actress.
++++ FL ACTRESS CANNOT ACT. ++++++ SHE HAS LIKE TWO FACIAL EXPRESSIONS AND THAT IS IT. HER MAIN FOCUS IS TO PUCKER HER LIPS AND LOOK CONFUSED. That is somehow supposed to look sexy but looks utterly dumb stupid, and esp since her facial expressions are so fake and so obviously acted....
it is ANNOYING, FL is like the worst actor in the whole drama. Get her out of there!!!! but since you cannot at this point, SEND HER TO ACTING SCHOOL ASAP!!!! FOR A FAST TRACK CLASS!!!!
FL IS UNPASSABLE AS AN ACTRESS. SHE NEEDS MAJOR HELP IN ACTING. ASAP. to help this drama and ratings.
The timing... at the end the ML and FL were in sync ... She threw drugs, and he did too..
and then he was thinking of jumping and she was crying.. she felt it... Su-A was also synced with them and was calling FL...... AND FL WAS IGNORING THE CALL OF SU-A. That little detail I think is very important bc it shows that James is more important that Su-A at that moment
So I hope he synced in with her and just walked away. It would be a total waste of his life to end his life bc some shitty man happened to be his father.
ES did turn him away when he came to give her money, she told him goodbye farawell... I DO HOPE HE DID NOT TAKE THAT AS PARTING FOREVER?? If he did, he might have jumped.... Back then, she could not accept his company as she was grieving... She never admitted to herself that she felt any romance for him bc she was too busy taking care of her husband and daughter and in her mind, she was "theirs" - but that husband was leaving anyways soon... I am glad he proved useful at the end, but for all their life together, he was so harmful to her... So at the very very end, he kinda redeemed himself..
I think at the very end point of the drama, all FL and ML past traumas have been revealed and FL at that point finished her grieving and ML was in the process of dealing with the grief. Hopefully he resolved his grief in a productive way
I do hope that he felt her crying for him and that it brought him back to life, realizing there is someone something for him, someone cares.
WHY DIE FOR SOME OLD GEEZER MONSTER???
and I do hope he walked away and back to ES's arms
I think at that point they are ready to be a family
If he did not walk away, then all his life WOULD be wasted and it would be a pity.
I hope ES was not crying bc she felt he already jumped. I hope he is smarter than that
I hope she was crying bc she felt his pain and REMEMBERED HIM and that made her willing to accept him into her life
I think S2 should be about ... what? them overcoming their convict past and doing some business like ... what? helping the police? holding a youth center? ....
Imo you TOTALLY nailed down the chaebol mom... totally exposed her human sales game... I disagree about ML FL…
you are free to think whatever you want :) I just expressed my opinion and I am not trying to persuade you. I am trying to say what I see and maybe that will make you think about it and maybe you will say what you see and maybe we will learn something from each other, but at the end, YOU ARE FREE, you have your opinion
and it would be only your loss to stick to opinions that are prejudicial or delusional. That option is always at your own choice, bc - YOU ARE FREE to have your opinion
I try to learn and adjust as I gain more information
i find that offensive. Older people are PEOPLE too.
OK Luckily for you, the older ppl storyline kinda died out. There is only grandma in the house, and wife's dad, and we havent seen them for ages already. The dad and looking for employment aftter retiring is still there and is a big deal. ALso wife working and even grandma working...
oooohhhh! yeees!!! the dark lipstick... the superior stance dolling it over others.... yes... that's the Cruella... !!! omg
She is not elegant she is clearly a "produce market in a cheap part of town" kinnda trashy yeller, in her speech and demeanor and her often tacky and always gaudy over the top clothes and jewelry... DO YOU REMEMBER that tank top that had a HUUUUUUUGE flower stuck on it? Like 30 cm in diameter... That was the "most tacky award" for sure... .
But her lipstick and some kind of upper attitude - I am doing this to you now bc I want to!!!! - is Cruella
he was always in love with her and now he finally defrosted and can feel itEVEN if he wasnt in love before - anyone…
To sum it up: JH is immature :) He was super nasty to EH yelling at her as if it is her fault he likes her .... That is not ok to dump on EH! If he is not going to confess to her, at least be quiet AND STAY POLITE.. ..... On the good side, he is honest. His telling the truth to SJ was very commendable - he said - "you go try first with EH and if she rejects you, I am gonna try, bc I love her. And btw I dont think you love her - if you did, you couldnt keep your hands off for 6 years. That doesnt look like love to me!!!" - so he was honest as a friend and as a love competitor. THat was not petty - it was awesome JH showed that his core, his essence, is honest. If he is aware of something, he acts on it.
EH basically cut off her ties with him, just told him to go live happily ever after, never offered to keep friends. IF he felt rejected permanently and did not remember all the care he was getting from her and that perhaps he can go back to her as a friend, he might have jumped. If he remembered that at least SHE cared for him and that he already survived huge evil things, he would not jump. So ... what happens... is .... up to imagination
it is a chance for him to throw away his old life and start anew. he can make that decision only on that rooftop....…
yes for sure he was getting ready to jump. However... that decision can change in a split second. I think only when he is ready to jump can he be pushed internally to realize that he has reasons to live. So I hope that DID happen :)
Later in life he will have a passkey to use if he babysits her kids LOL
And have you seen a brother piggyback his sister from drinking... ? He would put her into a cab....
Esp since Ha Neul and YC are NOT real brother and sister.... and technically CAN have a sexual relationship.
So I suspect that maybe for this kdrama, someone decided to not touch that can of worms and to leave the romance out so that the trolls would not get the ammunition to shoot down the drama.
It is totally true that romance was a huge part of the drama and was never actualized - bc it was not the time... FL and ML were both too busy dealing with their own sh## and FL was stuck to a a copy of her father in form of a harmful husband - who was sick and dying....
But the end of the drama - if James lived - is a start of a clean slate from which anything is possible.
I think FL and SuA would need a little time to sync up together and James would need a little time to fully reconver from his father... and then... they are free to be together, free as birds, clean and shiney....
and in fact, their close relationship - first just living as a family group and then I would say becoming lovers and a lifelong pair - is actually the only meaningful choice.
Bc - you live only once and ML IS THE ONLY PERSON WHO CARES FOR FL AND VICE VERSA. So why would they avoid each other and permanently be apart??? THAT IS DUMB!!!!
the best solution is to live together in love and care. he has shown so much love and care for her so far and it would be a terrible choice to throw him out. She gotta melt and forget that parasite husband patterned after her father.
ML actor was the ML in drama On her Wedding Day where he got left out but the woman was immature mean cold and ... an addict. Totaly different situation than here.
ES should get used to being loved. James is her chance :) if he lived to S2 :)
I thnk a huge reason for ES to cry at the end is out of regret for missing that chance for so long, and if she believed he was dead, missing that chance FOREVER. That would be a terrible loss and actually the greatest punishment ever.
Age difference - I am sorry but who cares these days ??? unless it is for money.... Then I would care. Assuming it is love - anything goes... ppl look younger or older and are more or less mature and anything is possible in love.
I said what is objectively true - you are free to do whatever you want, AND TO TAKE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR CHOICES. What is wrong in that? you think you are free to do whatever you want and NOT take the consequences for it?
I am talking about learning process, which you are not familiar with, obviously. You think i am brainwashing you JUST BC I AM STATING MY OPINION. I think you hang out with wrong ppl LOL I am not brainwashing you. I am stating - hey, this is what I think. I just like you am free to think what I want to think.
I havent learned from you at all why you dislike ML and FL. You just say you hate them but you never explained it. I explained in other posts why I like them and yeah here I just said I disagree with your opinion about them. If you do not want to hear my opinion, that is PREJUDICIAL, dont you think?
It is a lot more civil to respond to what I said and to say what you agree or not agree with and to state your arguments as to why you hate them and why you dont see the validity in my argument.
Your comments make you sound like a blind hater.... and also someone who is totally unwilling to discuss anything
We can agree and disagree, both of us are free
Oooouuuugh..... what happened to SML's mother and in his family??? That nice boy is totally frozen and spaced out .... I really suspect Cheabol stepmom somehow killed or eliminated his mother!!! There must be some huuuuuge trauma for the SML to be so out of touch with reality and so ungrounded spaced out person...
Meanwhile, SB, who is totally healthy, is wriggling .... but she is smart enough and knows that hormones are the heart are two different things ... and so she is patient, realizing she is feeling the hormones... But sooner or later, she WILL realize she is feeling the heart too.
**** they are a perfect pair !!!!! **** She is soooo good at the store and can do her YT channel in parallel
I vote for this pair. It will require some work as he has to defrost first. She is on her way to becoming a very responsible person and I give her a passing grade even now.
Their acting is so fun and so realistic. I actually love watching them.
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The ML's brother and YR are another great pair, but I am afraid chaebol mom will try kiling him or at least badly framing him. If YR doesnt step it up, she is gonna lose the man of her life. he is soo fun. I love the acting of those two actors, they totally made it real.
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I love the acting of ML actor and I totally cannot stand the acting of FL actress.
++++ FL ACTRESS CANNOT ACT. ++++++
SHE HAS LIKE TWO FACIAL EXPRESSIONS AND THAT IS IT.
HER MAIN FOCUS IS TO PUCKER HER LIPS AND LOOK CONFUSED. That is somehow supposed to look sexy but looks utterly dumb stupid, and esp since her facial expressions are so fake and so obviously acted....
it is ANNOYING, FL is like the worst actor in the whole drama. Get her out of there!!!!
but since you cannot at this point, SEND HER TO ACTING SCHOOL ASAP!!!! FOR A FAST TRACK CLASS!!!!
FL IS UNPASSABLE AS AN ACTRESS. SHE NEEDS MAJOR HELP IN ACTING. ASAP. to help this drama and ratings.
and then he was thinking of jumping and she was crying.. she felt it... Su-A was also synced with them and was calling FL...... AND FL WAS IGNORING THE CALL OF SU-A. That little detail I think is very important bc it shows that James is more important that Su-A at that moment
So I hope he synced in with her and just walked away. It would be a total waste of his life to end his life bc some shitty man happened to be his father.
ES did turn him away when he came to give her money, she told him goodbye farawell... I DO HOPE HE DID NOT TAKE THAT AS PARTING FOREVER?? If he did, he might have jumped.... Back then, she could not accept his company as she was grieving...
She never admitted to herself that she felt any romance for him bc she was too busy taking care of her husband and daughter and in her mind, she was "theirs" - but that husband was leaving anyways soon... I am glad he proved useful at the end, but for all their life together, he was so harmful to her... So at the very very end, he kinda redeemed himself..
I think at the very end point of the drama, all FL and ML past traumas have been revealed and FL at that point finished her grieving and ML was in the process of dealing with the grief. Hopefully he resolved his grief in a productive way
I do hope that he felt her crying for him and that it brought him back to life, realizing there is someone something for him, someone cares.
WHY DIE FOR SOME OLD GEEZER MONSTER???
and I do hope he walked away and back to ES's arms
I think at that point they are ready to be a family
If he did not walk away, then all his life WOULD be wasted and it would be a pity.
I hope ES was not crying bc she felt he already jumped. I hope he is smarter than that
I hope she was crying bc she felt his pain and REMEMBERED HIM and that made her willing to accept him into her life
I think S2 should be about ... what? them overcoming their convict past and doing some business like ... what? helping the police? holding a youth center? ....
and it would be only your loss to stick to opinions that are prejudicial or delusional. That option is always at your own choice, bc - YOU ARE FREE to have your opinion
I try to learn and adjust as I gain more information
Luckily for you, the older ppl storyline kinda died out. There is only grandma in the house, and wife's dad, and we havent seen them for ages already.
The dad and looking for employment aftter retiring is still there and is a big deal. ALso wife working and even grandma working...
She is not elegant she is clearly a "produce market in a cheap part of town" kinnda trashy yeller, in her speech and demeanor and her often tacky and always gaudy over the top clothes and jewelry... DO YOU REMEMBER that tank top that had a HUUUUUUUGE flower stuck on it? Like 30 cm in diameter... That was the "most tacky award" for sure... .
But her lipstick and some kind of upper attitude - I am doing this to you now bc I want to!!!! - is Cruella
On the good side, he is honest. His telling the truth to SJ was very commendable - he said - "you go try first with EH and if she rejects you, I am gonna try, bc I love her. And btw I dont think you love her - if you did, you couldnt keep your hands off for 6 years. That doesnt look like love to me!!!"
- so he was honest as a friend and as a love competitor. THat was not petty - it was awesome JH showed that his core, his essence, is honest. If he is aware of something, he acts on it.
IF he felt rejected permanently and did not remember all the care he was getting from her and that perhaps he can go back to her as a friend, he might have jumped.
If he remembered that at least SHE cared for him and that he already survived huge evil things, he would not jump.
So ... what happens... is .... up to imagination
I think only when he is ready to jump can he be pushed internally to realize that he has reasons to live. So I hope that DID happen :)