I got my mom interested in this :) She loooooves the baby. That kid is just a gem
ML actor is also so energetic and bubbly, he is so much fun to watch. ML role will be amazing soon, when he makes a u-turn and becomes considerate - and thus a great great dad. Watching him blow bubbles is a great start!!!! Omg he is going to be a great dad, he cleans, cooks, etc
And FL seems to be getting there too. I love how she already fights for the kid, it is really fun to watch her transformation into a lively vibrant person
So overall this is one super lovely drama, I love it!!!!!
lets not diss the entire drama just based on the AI intro of a few seconds
Hm when you watch MGM movie, do you rate the lion roaring? LOL Nope. you rate the movie.
Hm WHY are the actors "odd combo"??? that sounds strange. What makes them odd combo??? I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR YOUR ANSWER :) I am done talking with you :) The question is for you to answer to yourself.
I think they just ARE who they are, and they fit :) with the baby too
this drama has the usual sexist ktrope reversed - FL is the cold egoistical brat and ML is a giving kind person.…
The emotional connection happens very visibly when she smiles. THEN he really notices her and gets smitten. There are tiny moments like that, e.g. when she showers him, etc. When she is gnarling, he is defensive. They have a good working relationship to solve things, and take care of each other. He pays attention to her and follows her around, you can say he is her lap dog, but since she is so scary, he is scared too. But when she becomes nice and smiles, ... he likes her a lot.
So I think this drama made a huge mistake to drag her gnarly fox phase this long. They should have started showing her meltdown in small bits a lot sooner, that would also be a lot more comedic. The way her script is written is too simple, she is STILL clueless ignorant arrogant, and then his script is too simple too bc he has nothing to respond to. When she gnarls, he can only recoil.
The potential for most fun in this drama is Fox discovering herself changing and acting in ways that are confused, different, etc and ML responding to that. The script writer just was not creative enough with showing that. I am not a script writer LOL so I cannot provide ideas except - watch Haunted Palace LOL I can only see the finished product and provide feedback.
IF she was "nice" a lot more often, then it would be a lot more comedic, the play between them would be more hilarious and also a lot more deep, and would give him a chance to act more and more interesting stuff, it would be a lot more COMPLEX, and he could nail her down to admit she is having fun, also it would be fun to see him being caught in it, and it would be fun to see her discover her emotions and react to them etc.
Whoever wrote the script wasnt skilled enough to think of a more diverse plot.
I think this was well done in Haunted House, the Imugi in human body melted in a lot more fun ways and fast enough to make some amazing scenes with his partner female shaman. They also had a lot deeper "business partnership" and took care of each other in many different ways in their "real life" and "work life" as a "shaman couple" plus they had some hilarious romantic scenes, together and individually
That could have happened here too, but the script writer just wasnt that creative
So now we have only 4 episodes to wrap everuthing and it is just not enough. The speed at which drama is going is meant for like 20 episode drama :)
He is kissing her today but that is so ... out of blue, we never saw how his emotions developed to that point. RIght now he looks like a healthy guy who is not wasting any time on his romantic impulses that started literally YESTERDAY.
It would have been soooo much more fun if we had watched both of them simmering and figuring out their emotions for much longer
oh well
Next time. Both actors are pretty good so I hope next tome they nail the script writer to improve the script and MAKE IT MORE COMPLEX :)
relax this is not some gory serious thriller or toxic adults, this is LIVELY FUN it is so radiant and light and…
I already wrote what I see in this, so i do not understand why you are insisting on missing everything that is full of life, vibrancy, enjoyment and light? What makes you blind to RADIANCE??? well if you cannot get it then you cannot :) what can we do about it? I can just feel sorry for you for missing that much. Have a nice day!
The last two episodes have been the best so far. Glad to see the romance finally blossom.
imo that should have started sooner, bc that is the interesting part of the drama, their growth, esp Fox's growth i think they have only 4 episodes left? so there wont be enough time
I’ve just finished episode 8 of this drama, and honestly, from the very beginning I’ve struggled to connect…
this drama has the usual sexist ktrope reversed - FL is the cold egoistical brat and ML is a giving kind person. It is a lot harder to take a woman who is like that, bc that goes against our social stereotyping :)
A question about Korean business culture, about those scenes with elaborate business meals for power people: **** Does it really look like that "for rich and powerful" in real life in S.Korea or other parts of East Asia?
Can anyone WHO UNDERSTANDS THE KOREAN/ ASIAN BUSINESS CULTURE explain those elaborate business eating setups when power ppl meet in those fancy restaurants and there are like 1000 dishes on the table - there is no way they could eat all that... ? Or is there only a few bites for each dish, so it is possible to eat it all? D they take doggy bags...???? It doesnt look like it though... it looks way too fancy.... So the waiters eat it??? What is that all about?
I am asking bc I have never seen a power business dinner in Far East. So I want to know HOW REAL IS IT WHAT I AM SEEING IN THIS DRAMA?
Or is the drama basically advertising Korean food and lifestyle?
Nothing wrong with that, Korean food is really good. It is what I would eat if I go to fast food at a shopping mall or airport, bc only Koreans will have greens, and real veggies, like seaweed, and stuff without greasy sauces. I know so many Koreans in real life, tons of them live in Hawaii and NYC, and everyone I have seen looks good. They eat well, they have good life habits, and it shows. Sitting on the floor is the best, keeps you healthy and flexible and in shape. So yeah they can flaunt their food and lifestyle, it is totally appropriate :) IT WORKS VERY WELL. I would say Asia is the smartest in the world in terms of food and lifestyle and staying healthy and in shape
Oh this is interesting. Now I see why Ji Sung is a great actor. This is an amazing drama!!!! So many characters - all complex and acting very well - and a plot that is really a huge spider web, it is amazing!!!! this is an amazing thriller, all by talking and a tiny bit of action, no big $$$$ for special effects, this is just a mind chess game as ppl try to outdo each other. FABULOUSLY FASCINATING.
And I was thinking, ppl who do not have much logical brain power are not gonna enjoy this. bc it really requires some thinking ability to enjoy this.
When I started watching this drama, I did not like it. I did not like 1-dimensional "smirk jester superman" Ji Sung. I did not like that the plot was about doing stuff instead of character development and showing how ppl grew. Also "the doing stuff" seemed so ... well... rather trivial. OK let's catch some criminals..
BUT THEN - the drama took a U-turn and I was totally totally fascinated how clever that was!!! Ji Sung started acting his life and his own inner transformation, which is phenomenal acting. His "wife" too. Wow the wife is a very complex character... and that actress is just masterful in that role.... And the main villain too is complex and acted masterfully ....... There are so many warm tones with Ji Sung's family, his friends - the bulky guy, reporter, prosecutor, and another prosecutor - who might make a pair shortly LOL There are comedic moments and moments of "real life" relaxed warmth...
AND THE PLOT GOT SO DEEP. And the main villain turned out to be a very complex person, a real monster but with a trace of real good intentions. He is a monster but he looks so ... emotional in many ways. Also, they picked a very handsome man for that role and dressed him very well and that character has lots of smarts and lots of emotional expressions, which also makes it very interesting. That actor is masterful in that role.. and then the shadow government plot, etc
I am not sure if ep 10 and on are a little too rosey.... ? Our team is winning a little too easy? But it is ok :)
I am very impressed with the script, it was really a labyrinth that kept unraveling, very tight packing! the twist in unraveling are masterful! and I am very impressed with what this crew did with this script. Respect!!!!
hanyoung having more chemistry with park cheolwoo than with his wife was not on my bingo card but hell yeah i'm…
hm his wife was his "executioner" in his past life, so ... I dont think he is gonna have TOO MUCH chemistry with her... she is a backstabbing snake and he cannot trust her... she is so spoiled entitled and ... a wild card... sure she crushes on him but ... her loyalty and integrity and overal character is a BIG QUESTION MARK
This is somewhat the same as Again my life starred by Lee Joon Gi. Yeah, I like this kind of plot. Hehe
Yeah you are right. In some ways, this is very similar. However, the feel and execution is different. It is like having a love story but it is always different... Here, there is a team of people, not only ML-FL and there are more characters and they are a lot warmer; there is more emphasis on good guys rather than the bad guys. In AML, we got to see the bad guys behind the scenes a lot. Here, we dont. We get to see ML's family and friends. Also, FL here is quite complex, that actress is AMAZING in this role. Also, the main villain here is very complex and has "good intentions" too.
Overall, this is a lot more complex drama with more warm tones, more characters, more plot - a LOT more plot!!!! the dialogues and then outmaneuvering each other.... and overall, more ... humane
well, rating an intro is dumb, I get your point, but its not only director, screenwriter, let alone the actors...
Nope LOL Is the roaring lion a part of every MGM movie.... ???? it is just the credits. It can be fun or not... and you are NOT rating the movie on that roaring lion!!!!!!!
1) Will JMi meet Seo Rin? Yes. I think there will be a big revelation between them.2) Will the dad die? No. If…
Yeah your idea is brilliant!!!! that will work!!!!
I was thinking about this and the only way to have the cake and eat it too, i.e. keep both twins but avoid the pain of filming their scenes together, is to have one of them LEAVE. I think your idea resolves that brilliantly!
Just finished the last 3 episodes tonight.I have to say that Bokgil must have a head of steel to survive the attack…
i was thinking there is some benefit to kdrama skeleton women, as CEO Chae had no physical strength to even hit a man with a wrench LOL she is that weak
1) Will JMi meet Seo Rin? Yes. I think there will be a big revelation between them.2) Will the dad die? No. If…
yeah that seems the reason why one dies... but still, the plot is tricky bc .... Jang Mi's family will not have Jang Mi... so just tell them Jang Mi left to study in the USA? and fool CEO Cha with that too... ??? and how would the stupid Jang Mi pass as Seo Rim to the observant CEO Cha... ?.... how come CEO Cha would not know Seo Rim died... ??? it is tricky!!!! The easiest plot is to let both of them live and collaborate and swap, but that is most difficult to film... To think of it... they do NOT need to swap to collaborate :) Oh well - let us see what writers had in mind :)
I never read those previews, so I had no idea that Seo Rim is supposed to die... WHY??? She just got the Chef... so sad he stays alone!!!!! And if she dies and Jang Mi jumps in, how would Jang Mi's family deal with her absence? She would say she left to study in the USA??? but what if they see her in Dream Hotel...?? how would she pass by CEO Chae and her family.... ??? Then Baek Ho loses the love of his life... and has to fight with the Chef....
that is all so sketchy...... in some ways, it is easier they switch, but that too is a can of worms, sunce CEO Chae wants to kill them both, most likely....
The most fun version is they swap and collaborate. To think of it... they do NOT need to swap to collaborate :) Oh well - let us see what writers had in mind :)
It would be so sad to see Seo Rim die... she is so fun! and does not deserve to die.... Jang Mi is so boring :)
I can see why drama would gain momentum if Seo Rim dies bc that is more heavy karma and more motivation for revenge... also Seo Rim COULD become half villain and say to heck with Jang Mi and her family, they are cockroaches... there is NO REASON for Seo Rim to collaborate wth the stupid Jang Mi ...
and Seo Rim death would provide more opportunity for plot and Jang Mi acting, as she has to show the transformation from this dull stupid provincial girl into the more sophisticated clever smart Seo Rim...
and yeah, filming scenes with both twins together is tough....
still, I think both of them working together would be really fun :) and I am not fond of killing Seo Rim and everything that will come out of that, e.g. killing Baek Ho's love and killing Chef's only chance in life to break his cement walls. He already paired up with Seo Rim, who is PERFECT for him I;d like to see a plot that moves everyone forward Ok there is the reality, CEO Chae wants both twins kiled LOL and not everyone will get their true love and tragedies happen, sure, but ... Seo Rim is fun :) her and Chef is fun :) Baek Ho and Jang Mi are perfect too.
Well let's see what writers had in mind. I like what someone else here wrote - Seo Rim goes with Jang Mi's family into hiding, and Jang Mi takes Seo Rim's place. That seems very fun and reasonable plot. Then Seo Rim will ocassionaly come out of hiding to kiss the Chef, so he is gonna be confused when Jang Mi as Seo Rin is cold to him... I think Baek Ho will have to know about the swap and keep helping, and one day Chef will find out and join. Was it his car that had the camera when Dad fell... ?
ML actor is also so energetic and bubbly, he is so much fun to watch. ML role will be amazing soon, when he makes a u-turn and becomes considerate - and thus a great great dad. Watching him blow bubbles is a great start!!!! Omg he is going to be a great dad, he cleans, cooks, etc
And FL seems to be getting there too. I love how she already fights for the kid, it is really fun to watch her transformation into a lively vibrant person
So overall this is one super lovely drama, I love it!!!!!
Hm WHY are the actors "odd combo"??? that sounds strange. What makes them odd combo??? I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR YOUR ANSWER :) I am done talking with you :) The question is for you to answer to yourself.
I think they just ARE who they are, and they fit :) with the baby too
There are tiny moments like that, e.g. when she showers him, etc.
When she is gnarling, he is defensive.
They have a good working relationship to solve things, and take care of each other. He pays attention to her and follows her around, you can say he is her lap dog, but since she is so scary, he is scared too. But when she becomes nice and smiles, ... he likes her a lot.
So I think this drama made a huge mistake to drag her gnarly fox phase this long. They should have started showing her meltdown in small bits a lot sooner, that would also be a lot more comedic.
The way her script is written is too simple, she is STILL clueless ignorant arrogant, and then his script is too simple too bc he has nothing to respond to. When she gnarls, he can only recoil.
The potential for most fun in this drama is Fox discovering herself changing and acting in ways that are confused, different, etc and ML responding to that. The script writer just was not creative enough with showing that. I am not a script writer LOL so I cannot provide ideas except - watch Haunted Palace LOL I can only see the finished product and provide feedback.
IF she was "nice" a lot more often, then it would be a lot more comedic, the play between them would be more hilarious and also a lot more deep, and would give him a chance to act more and more interesting stuff, it would be a lot more COMPLEX, and he could nail her down to admit she is having fun, also it would be fun to see him being caught in it, and it would be fun to see her discover her emotions and react to them etc.
Whoever wrote the script wasnt skilled enough to think of a more diverse plot.
I think this was well done in Haunted House, the Imugi in human body melted in a lot more fun ways and fast enough to make some amazing scenes with his partner female shaman. They also had a lot deeper "business partnership" and took care of each other in many different ways in their "real life" and "work life" as a "shaman couple" plus they had some hilarious romantic scenes, together and individually
That could have happened here too, but the script writer just wasnt that creative
So now we have only 4 episodes to wrap everuthing and it is just not enough.
The speed at which drama is going is meant for like 20 episode drama :)
He is kissing her today but that is so ... out of blue, we never saw how his emotions developed to that point. RIght now he looks like a healthy guy who is not wasting any time on his romantic impulses that started literally YESTERDAY.
It would have been soooo much more fun if we had watched both of them simmering and figuring out their emotions for much longer
oh well
Next time.
Both actors are pretty good so I hope next tome they nail the script writer to improve the script and MAKE IT MORE COMPLEX :)
well if you cannot get it then you cannot :) what can we do about it? I can just feel sorry for you for missing that much. Have a nice day!
i think they have only 4 episodes left? so there wont be enough time
Can anyone WHO UNDERSTANDS THE KOREAN/ ASIAN BUSINESS CULTURE explain those elaborate business eating setups when power ppl meet in those fancy restaurants and there are like 1000 dishes on the table - there is no way they could eat all that... ? Or is there only a few bites for each dish, so it is possible to eat it all? D they take doggy bags...???? It doesnt look like it though... it looks way too fancy.... So the waiters eat it??? What is that all about?
I am asking bc I have never seen a power business dinner in Far East. So I want to know HOW REAL IS IT WHAT I AM SEEING IN THIS DRAMA?
Or is the drama basically advertising Korean food and lifestyle?
Nothing wrong with that, Korean food is really good. It is what I would eat if I go to fast food at a shopping mall or airport, bc only Koreans will have greens, and real veggies, like seaweed, and stuff without greasy sauces. I know so many Koreans in real life, tons of them live in Hawaii and NYC, and everyone I have seen looks good. They eat well, they have good life habits, and it shows. Sitting on the floor is the best, keeps you healthy and flexible and in shape.
So yeah they can flaunt their food and lifestyle, it is totally appropriate :) IT WORKS VERY WELL. I would say Asia is the smartest in the world in terms of food and lifestyle and staying healthy and in shape
And I was thinking, ppl who do not have much logical brain power are not gonna enjoy this. bc it really requires some thinking ability to enjoy this.
When I started watching this drama, I did not like it. I did not like 1-dimensional "smirk jester superman" Ji Sung. I did not like that the plot was about doing stuff instead of character development and showing how ppl grew. Also "the doing stuff" seemed so ... well... rather trivial. OK let's catch some criminals..
BUT THEN - the drama took a U-turn and I was totally totally fascinated how clever that was!!! Ji Sung started acting his life and his own inner transformation, which is phenomenal acting. His "wife" too. Wow the wife is a very complex character... and that actress is just masterful in that role.... And the main villain too is complex and acted masterfully ....... There are so many warm tones with Ji Sung's family, his friends - the bulky guy, reporter, prosecutor, and another prosecutor - who might make a pair shortly LOL There are comedic moments and moments of "real life" relaxed warmth...
AND THE PLOT GOT SO DEEP. And the main villain turned out to be a very complex person, a real monster but with a trace of real good intentions. He is a monster but he looks so ... emotional in many ways. Also, they picked a very handsome man for that role and dressed him very well and that character has lots of smarts and lots of emotional expressions, which also makes it very interesting. That actor is masterful in that role..
and then the shadow government plot, etc
I am not sure if ep 10 and on are a little too rosey.... ? Our team is winning a little too easy? But it is ok :)
I am very impressed with the script, it was really a labyrinth that kept unraveling, very tight packing! the twist in unraveling are masterful! and I am very impressed with what this crew did with this script. Respect!!!!
Here, there is a team of people, not only ML-FL and there are more characters and they are a lot warmer; there is more emphasis on good guys rather than the bad guys. In AML, we got to see the bad guys behind the scenes a lot. Here, we dont. We get to see ML's family and friends. Also, FL here is quite complex, that actress is AMAZING in this role. Also, the main villain here is very complex and has "good intentions" too.
Overall, this is a lot more complex drama with more warm tones, more characters, more plot - a LOT more plot!!!! the dialogues and then outmaneuvering each other.... and overall, more ... humane
I was thinking about this and the only way to have the cake and eat it too, i.e. keep both twins but avoid the pain of filming their scenes together, is to have one of them LEAVE.
I think your idea resolves that brilliantly!
The easiest plot is to let both of them live and collaborate and swap, but that is most difficult to film...
To think of it... they do NOT need to swap to collaborate :)
Oh well - let us see what writers had in mind :)
that is all so sketchy...... in some ways, it is easier they switch, but that too is a can of worms, sunce CEO Chae wants to kill them both, most likely....
The most fun version is they swap and collaborate.
To think of it... they do NOT need to swap to collaborate :)
Oh well - let us see what writers had in mind :)
It would be so sad to see Seo Rim die... she is so fun! and does not deserve to die.... Jang Mi is so boring :)
I can see why drama would gain momentum if Seo Rim dies bc that is more heavy karma and more motivation for revenge...
also Seo Rim COULD become half villain and say to heck with Jang Mi and her family, they are cockroaches... there is NO REASON for Seo Rim to collaborate wth the stupid Jang Mi ...
and Seo Rim death would provide more opportunity for plot and Jang Mi acting, as she has to show the transformation from this dull stupid provincial girl into the more sophisticated clever smart Seo Rim...
and yeah, filming scenes with both twins together is tough....
still, I think both of them working together would be really fun :) and I am not fond of killing Seo Rim and everything that will come out of that, e.g. killing Baek Ho's love and killing Chef's only chance in life to break his cement walls. He already paired up with Seo Rim, who is PERFECT for him
I;d like to see a plot that moves everyone forward
Ok there is the reality, CEO Chae wants both twins kiled LOL and not everyone will get their true love and tragedies happen, sure, but ... Seo Rim is fun :) her and Chef is fun :) Baek Ho and Jang Mi are perfect too.
Well let's see what writers had in mind. I like what someone else here wrote - Seo Rim goes with Jang Mi's family into hiding, and Jang Mi takes Seo Rim's place. That seems very fun and reasonable plot. Then Seo Rim will ocassionaly come out of hiding to kiss the Chef, so he is gonna be confused when Jang Mi as Seo Rin is cold to him... I think Baek Ho will have to know about the swap and keep helping, and one day Chef will find out and join. Was it his car that had the camera when Dad fell... ?