The only scene from the entire drama is the scene when SC and SingleMom are in the car driving away to their honeymoon, all happy, and ppl are asking them to bring back and honeymoon baby, and SC says with a very serious and determined look: I WILL DO MY BEST. He was such a great character and that was the only real couple in the entire drama. I love the scene of him talking to the REal Dad when the real dad gave him the family, and REalDad (driver Kim) peeking into the church.
For some people this show is just average & not a masterpiece. Is it so hard to swallow this pill? stop attacking…
it kinda reads well until the last sentence... bc then you start lying. You said that HALF of comments are against JH and then you mention that you cannot bash JH just for breathing... and you proclaim that YR was supposed to be likeable. Was she??? Half people liked JH. ANd you - if you cannot see what JH was doing wrong, then ... you are one of those.... LOL
and btw It was media manipulation to make the "likeable' goody goody YR straight from the 1950s kinda, a doormat pushover serving ppl who did not care for her..
Kinda shocked how many people DESPISE yeong-ryes character SO much like i know shes not the best written character…
Her character is a doormat woman from 1950s. That is why nobody should stand her!!!! I could not stand her cutesy talking like a little girl and all other cutesy behavuirs and thinking like a little girl... plus all the other toxic doormat stuff... YR was straight from the 1950s kinda..
Oh....... Kim Dami couldn't save this drama, it was bang average. What a disappointment.
I could not stand her cutesy talking like a little girl and all other cutesy behavuirs and thinking like a little girl... plus all the other toxic doormat stuff... YR was straight from the 1950s kinda..
I could not stand her cutesy talking like a little girl and all other cutesy behavuirs and thinking like a little girl... plus all the other toxic doormat stuff... YR was straight from the 1950s kinda..
Fans of narcissistic and attention-craving JH must be as shallow as her... Anyone who has a dream to become a Miss Korea or Miss Whatever, anyone whose dream is just to be a pretty something looked by everyone, is SHALLOW.
And her answers to questions at the Miss Korea paegant - her greatest desire for the future was to hear if she was Miss Korea. JH LACKS ANY DEPTH. She lacks IQ too... And it is not possible to mix love and hate.... IF you are a mature or wise person... LOL which JH is ***not***
She could be a good wife to a Judge bc she is pretty and will represent him well in public....
And YR was so ... dumb doormat to the very very end. With cutesy little girl talk and little girl thinking. How pathetic. JP became slightly more charming but still the same old "receiving end parasite"
I am so glad to hear that Koreans disliked this drama.It started well and just went to trash. The most disturbing was MDL audience rooting for JH and thinking YR was backstabbing her... !!!! never seen something that relationship- ignorant in my entire life ..... probably bc I dont hang out with ppl like that. WHO ARE those people... ? ppl in some kind of beauty business.... ???
It was SuA in ep 20 who had the music box.... and she still has it, now as FakeYC it helps her sleep.... and HN's other daughter has the same music box...
The list of lies, based on the post from @Imangla somewhat changed after reveals in ep 21Since this is a phychological…
List of lies/scams: 1. Death of HaNeul's dad, i.e. first husband of Loan Shark mama -- in ep 21 we saw he was killed by Loan shark mama and covered up by Chairman. Loan Shark Mama was shown with blood on her face, saying she accidentally killed her husband - was he trying to kill her first? did they quarrel? It did not seem she intended to kill him? or did she, and then lied to the Chairman.... ? and Chairman helped her cover it up bc she gave him money and helped him to become the Chairman. Chairman framed KiBeom for the murder. (KiBeom is bio dad of FakeYC).
RealYC said that there is no drop of blood between her and Ha Neul, so.... seems like Loanshark Mama is **not** Ha Neul's mother. Is Ha Neul adopted or was he his dad's bio kid?
2. Prison of KiBeom -- admitted in ep 21 to be arranged by Chairman to help Loanshark mama, to cover up her murdering "by accident" her first husband, Ha Neul's dad. Chairman did it so that he could grab Hye Ra? So far, it looks like Hye Ra has no clue about it but does she really, after 25 years?
3. Death of RealYoungChae's dad, i.e. the second husband of Loan Shark mama -- loan shark mama says she drowned him (does she have a habit of getting rid of all husbands?) but is he dead or will he show up later mysteriously?
4. Joo YoungChae pretending to be Cha JungWon - she introduced herself as Cha Jung Wong to Hye Ra - and later said that she was the real YC, but Hye Ra did not believe her LOL bc loan shark mama and Ha Neul lied that she is not YC..... lol 5. JungWon pretending to be YoungChae 6. Loanshark mama and HaNeul pretending that JungWon is YoungChae
7. HaNeul and JungWon pretending to be a couple in front of her stempom and dad - she finally confessed in ep 21 that it was a lie, BUT: 8. JungWon did not tell her stepmom and dad that she lives as FakeYC 9. JungWon keeps her marriage to Se Hun a secret from her father KiBeom. Her stepmother knows about it but also keeps it secret from KiBeom
10. Chairman pretending to Hye Ra that he had no idea what happened to KiBeom and family Wow the backstabing slimey snake Chairman who is soooo sweet to Hye Ra's face but a total monster behind her back. She DOES have an idea that he is like that, seems like.
11. Hye Ra pretending to the Chairman that she does not know he monitors her, but she really has an idea; and Chairmen closely monitoring her in secret, with an evil eye intent
When KiBeom went to prison, Hye Ra left her little daughter SuA with MiHyang and MiHyang's little daugher JuWong, and drove away to talk to the Chairman, to accept to marry him if he takes SuA. On the way there, HyeRa got struck by WTOD and was hospitalized for 6 months. WE DO NOT KNOW WHO SENT THAT WTOD.
MiHyang took care of SuA and when KiBeom got out of prison, they raised both girls. But somehow little Real JuWong died - we do not know how. Did the Chairman kill her by mistake, thinking she was SuA and he wanted to cut all HyeRa's ties to her family?? SuA's bio mom is Hye Ra.. Little Real YuWon's mother is the stepmother MiHyang
12. KiBeom and MiHyang pretending that SuA is JungWon (the stepmom's daughter, who died and we do not know yet how). SuA took the name JungWon and seems to have changed her identity to try to escape the criminal family tag.
SO SU-A HAD TWO IDENTITY AND TWO MOM/DAD CHANGES: WHEN SHE WAS LITTLE, SHE CHANGED IDENTITY FROM SU-A wih Mother HyeRa and BECAME CHA JU-WON with mother MiHyang, same dad for both (Essentially her family just "erased" the real little JuWong). So SuA grew up as herself but with name JuWong. AND NOW SHE TOTALLY CHANGED IDENTITY AND BECAME JOO YOUNG CHAE, with loanshark mother Gong Nan-sook (and dad who died on a boat, who was ... killed by Gong Nan-sook?).
13. FakeYC's dad KiBeom and stepmom MiHyang telling Hye Ra that SuA is dead... KiBom even fabricated a fake grave
Then all the lies regarding the two ex-boyfriends of Fake and REal YC...... Ha Neul lying to Loanshark mama, etc... they lying to Chairman's family.... etc etc etc ...
The list of lies, based on the post from @Imangla somewhat changed after reveals in ep 21
Since this is a phychological thriller, you need a big board with pictures of all involved, with lines going between them, to keep track of who is who and who is lying what and who knows what :) This is like real life LOL
Someone wrote that RealYC actress is too skinny and should go on a feeding tube LOL that is so accurate...
IF that actress were shown in rags in some African-looking environment, we all would be sending her food packets and relief money for STARVING to death...
but since she is a hot chick from the developed world, her skin and bones is considered fashionable... How HYPOCRITICAL... and ... super scary for so many women in the developing world starving themselves like that
When RealYC was trying to say she is a RealYC: RealYC said that THERE IS NO DROP OF BLOOD BETWEEN HER AND HA NEUL.... So... Ha Neul's dad brought HN into marriage? Or is HN adopted?
And yeah that memory moment shows that Loanshark Mom killed her husband, there was bloo on her face.... and she was scared... was he trying to kill her first... ???? so yeah, it showed, the Snake Chaebol Dad helped her cover it up by framing FakeYC's dad...
Wow this is a masterful psychological thriller :) WOW!!!!!
The web of relationships and lies is extraordinary!!!! Somewhat reminds me of Italian Movie "Perfect Strangers" - which is a masterpiece! but this is 100 episodes of something like that!!!!
This one is different bc there are "good" people doing bad things, intentionally or not.... it is very very similar to real life....
too bad more people dont know about it, this is waaaaaay above the typical daily, from what i understand
I love watching the Loanshark Villain Mantis Mom - I find her makeup hair jewelry costuming fascinating... her lipstick matches her hair, her gaudy jewelry is AMAZING and she has beautiful white teet and she moves her lips as she speaks, and she acts so well, I find her FASCINATING to watch ... The other half villain mom has great fashion too, and a great figure in slinky dresses, and she is pretty too, but not as interesting to me to watch bc she is too... controlled :)
I also love watching Ha Neul bc of his beautiful smile. He is the character I worry about bc he became a liar so I hope he untangles soon...
Everyone acts so well in this drama. The Cheabol Dad is a perfect backsabbing snake villain with those thin sucked in lips... Omg his relationship to HN... !!!!! speak of a cruel master of a bird in a golden cage.... The trashy FakeYC's ex is a perfect criminal.... The duped cheabol fiance is perfect combo of mama-daddy-company son snowflake - he is already bailing out on FakeYC and ... rightfully so LOL Yeah, I agree he might get into an affair with Real YC...
Well if RealYC lives lol as someone said, I would put her on a feeding tube, she is all skin and bones. That actress is great in that role and I love her unique voice but please, eat some food to ensure you LIVE to the end of the drama lol
FakeYC parents are ... well... great in their role, but super dumb characters LOL omg the fashion police should arrest the FakeYC's stepmom lol lol lol and it had to be that way, they are one of the reasons why everything went bad...
I really enjoyed the acting of the bodygard for the three LOL and also the horror movie cook...
Script is so complex and all these actors are really making it real. It is amazing!
A Graceful Liar or Marie and Her Three Daddies " which one is better ? which one should i watch
marie is much cheaper but "normal family" yaddiadia .... acting is not as stellar though and it is not filmed as well. . Graceful liar is a masterful psych thriller
This is a post from someone else: "Kocowa is, for clarity, an American company. It and Viki are both headquartered in California (though Viki’s current holding company is Japanese, it started and still operates from the US). Most SK-specific ones require a SK phone number and the few I’ve tried with a VPN wouldn’t take a foreign VISA card (TVING is one I wanted to sub to but was locked out of), so Viu is my go-to (based in HK, initially and primarily serving smaller markets in east Asia though they have pockets of service here and there depending on whether the governments of a given place allow them to operate). I just use a VPN. Viu took my money just fine lol. They, what with Singapore in particular having SO many international students (bc classes are taught in English, hence their subs being solid as plenty of Viu subbers from SK went to an English language high school), understand that even people in the countries they have service to might not have bank accounts there, HK also quite a global hot spot for westerners though mostly in business there AFAIK"
This kdrama started promising, up to and including the bus attendant part. BUT THEN THE CHARACTERS DID NOT GROW ANY MORE... !!!! and it was just toxic toxic toxic. At the end, this drama was a usual sexist trope and rather trashy because it did not show any positive growth for real, but rather showed a desperation, toxicicy.... It showed normal people in normal life, doing normal things. It is ... hm.... not quite worthy of a drama .... it is more western hopeless style than kdrama.
It overuses the sexist plot of kdrama .... most kdramas start with FL as a doormat - but let her grow at least some by the end - this one shows the FL as mostly a doormat to the end and somehow she is considered a good person for it
He was such a great character and that was the only real couple in the entire drama. I love the scene of him talking to the REal Dad when the real dad gave him the family, and REalDad (driver Kim) peeking into the church.
ANd you - if you cannot see what JH was doing wrong, then ... you are one of those.... LOL
and btw It was media manipulation to make the "likeable' goody goody YR straight from the 1950s kinda, a doormat pushover serving ppl who did not care for her..
I could not stand her cutesy talking like a little girl and all other cutesy behavuirs and thinking like a little girl... plus all the other toxic doormat stuff... YR was straight from the 1950s kinda..
And her answers to questions at the Miss Korea paegant - her greatest desire for the future was to hear if she was Miss Korea. JH LACKS ANY DEPTH. She lacks IQ too... And it is not possible to mix love and hate.... IF you are a mature or wise person... LOL which JH is ***not***
She could be a good wife to a Judge bc she is pretty and will represent him well in public....
And YR was so ... dumb doormat to the very very end. With cutesy little girl talk and little girl thinking. How pathetic.
JP became slightly more charming but still the same old "receiving end parasite"
I am so glad to hear that Koreans disliked this drama.It started well and just went to trash. The most disturbing was MDL audience rooting for JH and thinking YR was backstabbing her... !!!! never seen something that relationship- ignorant in my entire life ..... probably bc I dont hang out with ppl like that. WHO ARE those people... ? ppl in some kind of beauty business.... ???
1. Death of HaNeul's dad, i.e. first husband of Loan Shark mama -- in ep 21 we saw he was killed by Loan shark mama and covered up by Chairman. Loan Shark Mama was shown with blood on her face, saying she accidentally killed her husband - was he trying to kill her first? did they quarrel?
It did not seem she intended to kill him? or did she, and then lied to the Chairman.... ? and Chairman helped her cover it up bc she gave him money and helped him to become the Chairman. Chairman framed KiBeom for the murder. (KiBeom is bio dad of FakeYC).
RealYC said that there is no drop of blood between her and Ha Neul, so.... seems like Loanshark Mama is **not** Ha Neul's mother. Is Ha Neul adopted or was he his dad's bio kid?
2. Prison of KiBeom -- admitted in ep 21 to be arranged by Chairman to help Loanshark mama, to cover up her murdering "by accident" her first husband, Ha Neul's dad. Chairman did it so that he could grab Hye Ra?
So far, it looks like Hye Ra has no clue about it but does she really, after 25 years?
3. Death of RealYoungChae's dad, i.e. the second husband of Loan Shark mama -- loan shark mama says she drowned him (does she have a habit of getting rid of all husbands?) but is he dead or will he show up later mysteriously?
4. Joo YoungChae pretending to be Cha JungWon - she introduced herself as Cha Jung Wong to Hye Ra - and later said that she was the real YC, but Hye Ra did not believe her LOL bc loan shark mama and Ha Neul lied that she is not YC..... lol
5. JungWon pretending to be YoungChae
6. Loanshark mama and HaNeul pretending that JungWon is YoungChae
7. HaNeul and JungWon pretending to be a couple in front of her stempom and dad - she finally confessed in ep 21 that it was a lie, BUT:
8. JungWon did not tell her stepmom and dad that she lives as FakeYC
9. JungWon keeps her marriage to Se Hun a secret from her father KiBeom. Her stepmother knows about it but also keeps it secret from KiBeom
10. Chairman pretending to Hye Ra that he had no idea what happened to KiBeom and family
Wow the backstabing slimey snake Chairman who is soooo sweet to Hye Ra's face but a total monster behind her back. She DOES have an idea that he is like that, seems like.
11. Hye Ra pretending to the Chairman that she does not know he monitors her, but she really has an idea; and Chairmen closely monitoring her in secret, with an evil eye intent
When KiBeom went to prison, Hye Ra left her little daughter SuA with MiHyang and MiHyang's little daugher JuWong, and drove away to talk to the Chairman, to accept to marry him if he takes SuA. On the way there, HyeRa got struck by WTOD and was hospitalized for 6 months. WE DO NOT KNOW WHO SENT THAT WTOD.
MiHyang took care of SuA and when KiBeom got out of prison, they raised both girls. But somehow little Real JuWong died - we do not know how. Did the Chairman kill her by mistake, thinking she was SuA and he wanted to cut all HyeRa's ties to her family??
SuA's bio mom is Hye Ra.. Little Real YuWon's mother is the stepmother MiHyang
12. KiBeom and MiHyang pretending that SuA is JungWon (the stepmom's daughter, who died and we do not know yet how). SuA took the name JungWon and seems to have changed her identity to try to escape the criminal family tag.
SO SU-A HAD TWO IDENTITY AND TWO MOM/DAD CHANGES:
WHEN SHE WAS LITTLE, SHE CHANGED IDENTITY FROM SU-A wih Mother HyeRa and BECAME CHA JU-WON with mother MiHyang, same dad for both (Essentially her family just "erased" the real little JuWong). So SuA grew up as herself but with name JuWong.
AND NOW SHE TOTALLY CHANGED IDENTITY AND BECAME JOO YOUNG CHAE, with loanshark mother Gong Nan-sook (and dad who died on a boat, who was ... killed by Gong Nan-sook?).
13. FakeYC's dad KiBeom and stepmom MiHyang telling Hye Ra that SuA is dead... KiBom even fabricated a fake grave
Then all the lies regarding the two ex-boyfriends of Fake and REal YC...... Ha Neul lying to Loanshark mama, etc... they lying to Chairman's family.... etc etc etc ...
Well is that the list? Have we missed anything?
Since this is a phychological thriller, you need a big board with pictures of all involved, with lines going between them, to keep track of who is who and who is lying what and who knows what :) This is like real life LOL
IF that actress were shown in rags in some African-looking environment, we all would be sending her food packets and relief money for STARVING to death...
but since she is a hot chick from the developed world, her skin and bones is considered fashionable... How HYPOCRITICAL... and ... super scary for so many women in the developing world starving themselves like that
RealYC said that THERE IS NO DROP OF BLOOD BETWEEN HER AND HA NEUL.... So... Ha Neul's dad brought HN into marriage? Or is HN adopted?
And yeah that memory moment shows that Loanshark Mom killed her husband, there was bloo on her face.... and she was scared... was he trying to kill her first... ????
so yeah, it showed, the Snake Chaebol Dad helped her cover it up by framing FakeYC's dad...
The web of relationships and lies is extraordinary!!!! Somewhat reminds me of Italian Movie "Perfect Strangers" - which is a masterpiece! but this is 100 episodes of something like that!!!!
This one is different bc there are "good" people doing bad things, intentionally or not.... it is very very similar to real life....
too bad more people dont know about it, this is waaaaaay above the typical daily, from what i understand
I love watching the Loanshark Villain Mantis Mom - I find her makeup hair jewelry costuming fascinating... her lipstick matches her hair, her gaudy jewelry is AMAZING and she has beautiful white teet and she moves her lips as she speaks, and she acts so well, I find her FASCINATING to watch ...
The other half villain mom has great fashion too, and a great figure in slinky dresses, and she is pretty too, but not as interesting to me to watch bc she is too... controlled :)
I also love watching Ha Neul bc of his beautiful smile. He is the character I worry about bc he became a liar so I hope he untangles soon...
Everyone acts so well in this drama. The Cheabol Dad is a perfect backsabbing snake villain with those thin sucked in lips... Omg his relationship to HN... !!!!! speak of a cruel master of a bird in a golden cage.... The trashy FakeYC's ex is a perfect criminal.... The duped cheabol fiance is perfect combo of mama-daddy-company son snowflake - he is already bailing out on FakeYC and ... rightfully so LOL Yeah, I agree he might get into an affair with Real YC...
Well if RealYC lives lol as someone said, I would put her on a feeding tube, she is all skin and bones. That actress is great in that role and I love her unique voice but please, eat some food to ensure you LIVE to the end of the drama lol
FakeYC parents are ... well... great in their role, but super dumb characters LOL omg the fashion police should arrest the FakeYC's stepmom lol lol lol and it had to be that way, they are one of the reasons why everything went bad...
I really enjoyed the acting of the bodygard for the three LOL and also the horror movie cook...
Script is so complex and all these actors are really making it real. It is amazing!
. Graceful liar is a masterful psych thriller
It overuses the sexist plot of kdrama .... most kdramas start with FL as a doormat - but let her grow at least some by the end - this one shows the FL as mostly a doormat to the end and somehow she is considered a good person for it