InspectorMegre

I dont care, I skip that stuff anyways.
And ... it fits ... those kind of videos is what kids watch these days

Ough... I dropped that one as a total waste... She showed up in minimal ways, so how did she got nominated for an award for that.... ???? She didnt act in it!!!!! She just looked far away, looking sad... I dont know if something happened at the end where she acted more, but she is NOT an actress to receive an award. Imo
I saw her as FL in Crushology 101 and she was acting TERRIBLE and her role was terrible, she was a total loser Bunny. I dropped that drama too. I could not stand watching her, it was sooo pathetically LIFELESS. That seems to be her signature style, LIFELESS ZOMBIE LOSER.

In this drama, precisely bc she is so used to acting total losers, she actually fits and is acting OK for this role. It is not too bad. for ep 1.

Now comes ep 2 and there is the baby so FL has to act stronger and lively, so ... can this actress pull it off... ????

She is soooo skinny, frail, lifeless, that it is pathetic, she really LOOKS like a loser. She needs like 40 lbs more on her and some muscle.
Hopefully the drama is making her character here become stronger in every way.

So far, I have no complaints about her acting in ep 1.

Ep 2 will be the real test - CAN SHE ACT AS SOMEONE FULL OF LIFE AND STRONG AND HAPPY? that is required to be a good mom to the baby. If she cannot do it, then yeah, bring another truck of doom and get a new mom for the baby

I absolutely LOVE this drama!!!!! The plot is really powerful and meeaningful, and the acting is great!
I am not sure why ppl are complaining about FL actress as not able to act? Her character is that kind of meek skinny immature not-energetic "girl" so she perfectly fits here and is excellent in this role IN EP 1. I am glad FL grows spine, based on the preview.
Ep 1 was ok to be pathetic, lifeless, not energetic FL. BUT NOW THERE IS EP 2 AND ON WITH THE ENERGETIC LIVELY RADIANT BABY AND FL HAS TO MATCH THAT.

There will be a transition period when this lifeless, low energy, selish, energetic vampire and loser has to adjust to the vibrant lively mode of a toddler and GIVING LOVE.... So let us say 1-2 episodes where she struggles to match the baby .

BUT THEN she gotta match the baby. CAN SHE????

So far I have never seen that actress in a lively alive radiant role and I am not sure she CAN act that. I totally hated her acting in Crushology 101 and The Witch, she just looks sad, lost, confused, anxious, and stares in the air. That is not gonna work for a baby drama.

So EP 4 or so IS THE TRUE TEST OF FL ACTING. So far all her roles I have seen are totally lifeless zombie-like losers. THAT is a no-go for ep 4 and on, and taking care of the baby. FL actress has to act strong and lively to convey being a good mom to the baby. So if she cannot pull it off in ep 4 or 5 the latest, then send a truck of doom and get a new mom to the baby. Period.

ML actor is acting excellent, he brings in comedy too. He is one of my fav actors.

The baby is phenomenal. I hope the filming does not traumatize him.
Baby sitting next to ML is soooo cute

who cares, I skip that stuff anyways. I like older dramas which started without any intro .

I think there is the issue of their dad in jail. I suspect that the older brother hid the younger brother to save him.
However, once the dad was in jail... older brother SHOULD have contacted the bro again. Perhaps he couldnt bear to show up out of blue. But that is cowardly :) That is my educated guess.... Or was there another issue? We will see :)

This type of movie is critical for S Korea's future bc it has THE LOWEST BIRTH RATE GLOBALLY

RESPECT!!! that is not easy.... given that Netflix, Disney, and short verticals are siphoning resources and customers

put this under a spoiler, I think it is an illegal site :)
But its subtitles in english are by real ppl and pretty good, much better than AI generated, which usually su.k

i like your honesty.
How to judge? well it is very subjective in many ways.... so nobody can really judge... But there are some indicators you are watching some good acting.

"As if in real life" style good actors make it look like there is no actor acting. They make it look like you are watching real people in real life.
If the actor is pulling you into the story so that it seems like the actor IS that character and you forget that you are in a story, and everything seems real, like you are THERE with these real people doing real stuff, then it is a great actor. Example - Humphrey Bogart in 1940 iconic movie Casablanca.....

Who is it for you? For me recently, it was FL villain in the Glory and a reporter in Not Nice to Meet You - she was a perfect villain in one drama and a perfect nerdy reporter in another drama; or ML in Idol I; or actors in To my Beloved Thief; many actors in Incognito Miss Hong, etc Those actors all seem "real" like real people are living their lives right in front of you.

Any actor who makes you FEEL the story with the characters is a good actor. Have you gotten really angry or annoyed at a character, or really sad about them, or really happy, etc? That is a good actor who made you feel... Like Gong Nan Suk loan shark mama in A Graceful Liar. Villain killer in Queen Mantis. Silly teenage girl, 2FL, in Spring Fever. etc

If the actor has pulled you into some kind of "exaggerated story" and made you forget the outside world and made you focus only on what they are doing (and even made you FEEL - laugh, cry, etc) then it is a great actor. Example: Charlie Chaplin, PHS in Incognito Miss Hong, etc. Many ppl in IMH are switching between this style and the "as if in real life" style, which crates great comedy and a lot of tension, bc you never know what will happen next, so it is really really fun.

it is done over the phone in real life

Even by family members.

But first you have to ask them if they are in a safe place to answer a bad phone call. Typically it does not happen either bc the bearer of bad news is in shock too and/or could care less of the recipient.

for what role.... ???

The baby cannot really act here, to avoid being traumatized, so they probably heavily edited baby scenes

No, the real Korean stations almost if not always produce better kdramas. I cannot think of any Netflix "kdrama" that was better than a genuinely local kdrama.
And FYI,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1_j6izmEX4

i see their point.... indeed, that level of evil does require insanity.
Or the villain could be a reptile or some other nasty kind of alien or demon or incarnation, but what is normal to those species is insane to humans

Exactly! He replaced a visibly poisonous garden snake with a well camouflaged most deadly viper LOL So what kind of whimp is he, when he attracts only snakes?
The visibly poisonous at least keeps calling the Chef "our son" - since he came quite old into the family, with leukemia, and remembers they are not his parents

wow this plot is an amazing dilemma! and a very current issue

Watched ep 1 and it looks promising. it did not take much to learn all characters :) many characters will make for more plot, so the script always stays dynamic :)

Keep our fingers crossed. Eagle Brothers and Our Golden Days flopped mid way, but to be honest, this drama has a better beginning than those too.

KBS weekend dramas have a history of really bad, cold, distant FL actresses who cannot act - 3 Bold Siblings, Young Lady and Gentleman, For Eagle Brothers, Our Golden Days, It is Beautiful Now, Live Your Life, ...... EG had even cold secondaries. Showing a cold distant FL took too much time of drama and made a good-acting ML totally useless bc he had nobody to act with. That plus dumb script killed those dramas.
Some were partially saved bc secondary characters took over, like in 3 Bold Siblings, Mi Yong and YoungerSister became the most prominent couple; and in YLAG and OGD, the villains took over. FEB totally flopped as secondary characters scripts were left bland too and their acting was mostly dismal - I am thinking the young woman who wanted the divorced dad - her script took so much time on the screen but she was a total piece of cement on screen. In OGD, the actors for secondary love stories were awesome but were not allowed to shine and take over. It is sad. I am not sure who it is at KBS that keeps doing this, but they need to be retrained or someone else be assigned. WHO IS IT AT KBS THAT LIKES INDIFFERENT, COLD FEMALE PARTNERS? In other words, WHO AT KBS ASSIGNS PRETTY WOMEN WHO HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT ACTING AND SHOW UP ON THE SCREEN AS SELF CENTERED PIECE OF CEMENT? Women who just pose, without expressing feelings and without expressing any affection to their male partner. Basically, ignoring the male partner. FLs in 3BS, FEB, LYOL, IIBN, OGD, were just totally indifferent to their male partners. I am NOT asking for skinship scenes!!! I am asking for scenes showing that FL does not ignore ML, where FL is actively engaged in the scene and pays attention to ML. Those actresses were terrible, like cement, just minding their own business on screen, never really giving attention to their screen partner, never engaged in the scenes, they looked like they are acting in a solo drama, and it was so boring. I will never forget how 3BS ML kept trying to engage the FL and she was just unresponsive. He would try to talk to her, to call her yobo, etc and she was just DEAD unresponsive. She ignored him non-stop. She is the worst of them all. But all the ones I mentioned are just bad actresses and really selfish, they kept ignoring ML and paying attention only to themselves. They cannot act.

With so many characters in this new drama, it should be easy to always have interesting characters up front. Keep our fingers crossed!!!!

For me yes and no, since many of those girls chose it willingly - to pay for their drug habit, etc. Some out of conviction it is all right...

I think a very valuable lesson from this drama that should send any parent into frenzy is that this drama exposes what is going to happen to your child if it ever misses from home, runs away, or turns to drugs or gangs, or talks to strangers over internet and then meets them, or goes strange places and parties.... This drama is a sobering call to the hell that is out there.... .

This reminds me of The Defects and of western movies. It does not feel like a kdrama, it is too ... empty and isolated.
I think it is good to bring these issues up and to use these hyped up extreme situations to start talking about these subjects...

Yeah, women cheat on their husbands and vice versa, and yeah ppl do drugs and prostitution and violence and yeah it is corrupt out there, but those are just THE TIPS OF THE ICEBERG, and the iceberg starts in your own family, where your own parents practice sexism, where children get trained into that as normal, and at work, where a woman is paid 70% of men' salary, and in our dating and love life, where "hot" guy means someone aggressive and rather violent piece of cement, and where women compete with each other to reach the top and secure prestige via some MALE as their front.

So to me, this drama is just not deep and not serious, but more of ... hyped up gory advertisement that is going to become stale and obsolete very fast. ....
Unless parents catch on that this is the fate of their children if they talk with strangers on Internet and then meet them in person... your kid is gonna be like that Yoo girl....

It is ok to start here and at least put it on the radar... It is good to have a female cast witih good actresses (well - will that happen), with strong female characters - although these are too unbalanced and .... cold... to be good role models; it is good to have a drama without pretty boys and silly romances, thank god, her husband looks like a normal person, not a plasticized face....

But all these gory crimes and disgusting gory details ... are ... well... very american tv like. And then scenes, with just few ppl and subplots, it is just ... lonely, isolated, empty feeling. Doesnt feel like a kdrama with that feeling of "togetherness". gongsaeng These women are good friends but somehow their friendship feels very cold. No i do NOT want to see them get drunk together. I mean all their communication is so blaze and rather distant. They are like superhumans flitting around..... There is something very kdrama-ish that is lacking here. That gongsaeng feeling.

I am watching this and I feel like I am in Sweden or USA, not in Korea... something like that. The faces are asian but everything else is western.

****** So anyways, this is at least a start, but there is a LOT LOT LOT more that is important that has to be addressed if these causes are ever going to addressed.

The main issue is that we humans are behaving like animals and the law of tooth and claw is STILL the most valued law amongst the humans.
WE MEASURE POWER BY OUR ABILITY TO HURT.... NOT BY OUR ABILITY TO HEAL....

AND WE MEASURE OUR POWER WITH OUR ABILITY TO MATE AND KILL THE COMPETITION

Our unchecked egotism is the core problem
Leading to the prevalent idea that women are lesser and thus can be exploited, this idea of keeping women as slaves - the prevalent idea for thousands of years on planet Earth. Women have been free labor, free child care, no property, no rights, SLAVES, for thousands of years.

AND IT IS STILL GOING ON. And how can we expose it, not just in these special gory extreme situations, but in daily life, how ppl interact, work, live, and mate in DAILY LIFE

So in summary, this drama is ok but to me, not really interesting because I am already too well amiliar with the issues, and I want to see SOLUTIONS THAT WORK IN THE TRENCHES, I feel like I am at war every day as this "societal glob" tries to squish me and intimidate me and push me down and out - womn cannot be wealthy, powerful, strong, beautiful AND smart, etc etc etc etc.

I want to expose and transform that very basic image that ppl have of women.

Ok then there is a formula - the trashy scripts are made out of miscommunication, not listening, keeping secrets, egotism, false pride, insecurity, refusing to talk or hear, etc etc etc just like in this drama, entire plot is made on that fact that jae min and her family are DUMB. The plot is just ... DUMB. And cbaracters too OL So Jae Min can take care of herself? wow the lawyer saved her life like 5 times already.... The dad saw everything and is just loitering around that parking lot... exposing CEO Chae... ?? omg..... what a loser family.... Then instead of speaking fast he keeps on dragging ... until found out again... .... .Well - i guess many ppl identify with this family. THE WHOLE PLOT IS JUST LACK OF COMMUNICATION AND EGOTISM . It's ok. I guess this is a daily drama, for less intelligent audience. I just cannot stop to notice the difference in script quality with evening dramas. This time around, by sheer luck, there are kdramas with GREAT scripts and the difference between this drama and those dramas is like night and day.

As for acting, Lawyer, Se Mi, and Chae actors are great; also both lawyers' parents and Jae Min's dad actors are great too, and her family - well ... except Jae Min actress, she is doing Se Mi a lot better than Jae Mi.