yes there are still broken up .... its ridiculous ... and the moms and elders are happy ... i am freaking out…
Wow I am so glad I missed all those episodes and the "ambassador of love" spewing vile 1000% hatred - which honestly is her choice - but to see her grown daughter just obey it is CRIMINAL GROSS and I do not want to see any such thing for more than say 1-2 episodes the most.
Start overcoming it already, for goodness sakes!
Is the whole drama gonna be about that? dragging that plot on and on and on and on and on, forever to the end?? heck i aint watching that.
I think there is other stuff to compensate for lack of romance. Romance was never the strong point.
sorry there is just the semantic difference between "family feud" and "families cannot mingle too much" - it is just a thin polite veneer for DISDAIN which really is based on HATRED
JH did the illegal bonsai thing with HY, then he tried to cover up the loss by swindling the biggest shareholder,…
yeah indeed there is no hard evidence and HY, LH and JH are really a GANG now, and JH is a very important member of it, he got the brains and it really helping the gang push forward. Those 3 need to go to jail together
It is a good thing that JH freed the captives bc it was really illegal and gruesome for Gang Ma to kidnap and torture gang HJ and now JH is an accomplice in attempted murder of Chairman and possibly others
The supporting cast delivers standout performances.The story is compelling—finding the grandpa and resolving…
Sure but I dont want to watch 2 hateful families feuding for weeks and weeks. This is a FAMILY drama so I am expecting some kind of progress towards having a FAMILY
I think there is other stuff to compensate for lack of romance. Romance was never the strong point.
precisely - this is a FAMILY drama. So keeping this hatred and feud in the family is totally dumb nasty waste of drama time. That's my opinion. It is ok to have that plot, but to keep dragging it is NOT ok
The Mistakes Writer/Producer Has Made:Started romance between leads to early.Giving twins inconsistent levels…
With all due respect, I disagree with all points but the last 2 - in fact, I think your points 1-4 made the drama more fun. .
Imo it was bad pacing but not for the reasons you mentioned, and definitely, these last episodes are a circus.
Imo the fundamental mistake is that characters stayed the same, there is no character growth. That is just NOT fun. the drama was kept STALE - the characters were kept STALE - and what makes it fun is inner conflict showing as external conflict and attempts to remedy
Specifically, the writer made mistakes bc: JM was made too dumb and ignorant and SLOOOOOW like molasses, So this thick, slow, dumb character was made the lead for most of the drama. ooooommmmmm ggggggoood... she killed the pace. She kept it at the tortoise speed.
DUMB MI KILLED THE DRAMA BC SHE IS SO DUMB AND SLOW. JM should have had much less time on the screen, and SR should have had a lot more time on the screen.
SR was fun, smart, peppy, and every episode with her was fun, but she was in like .. 5? episodes lmao and then killed. SR SHOULD HAVE HAD A LOT MORE TIME
BH was made perfect from the get go and so one dimensional Superman who is slightly dumb but always steady faithful, such ONE DIMENSIONAL FLAT CHARACTER with the personality of cardboard. He was like a pion and servant of JM. We never saw him wrestle with any emotional dilemmas, or think, or stand up to JM, etc. He just WAS THERE as steady and unmovable as a rock. Watching rocks for too long is boring.
The only time BH was interesting was when he snagged JM from the wedding with JH. But ... they never talked about it later and BH and JM did not really change. They both stayed the same and their relationship stayed the same old STALE. Bummer. Having BH and JM "frozen" in their ignorant selves was just B O R I N G. We never saw them rehash stuff, argue, etc.
We never saw any real contact between JM and BH. There is absolutely NO affection besides a few words in like ep 120 from JM... BH tried to kiss her like a teenager would.... THEY NEVER TALK FOR REAL, they never argue, they never work out their disagreements, differences, character flaws.... They never think of how to improve themselves for the other ... esp JM has put ZERO effort into this relationship... BH had to chase her... and the end result is the two of them sitting around office table talking about how to catch HY.
JM-BH relationship is like between two comrade spies, not between two ppl in love... It is a relationship only on paper.... In other words, THIS DRAMA TOTALLY LACKS ROMANCE AND LOVE. JM and BH behave like two people who were married for the last 100 years and now are old and tired of each other and just thinking how to take down a nasty neighbor...
JH was made mean from the start and he got meaner and meaner. He was interesting for a short while when we saw how flustered he was to find his bio mom and when for a second we saw his gentle needy side. HOWEVER, that was for a split second and then he was back to being cruel mean greedy selfish. Now he is a perfect gang boss in HY's gang. JH AND SR ARE THE MOST COMPLEX CHARACTERS IN THIS DRAMA AND WE JUST NEVER GOT TO SEE THAT!!!! SR was taken off screen and JH actor is just unskilled to act this role. He just cannot act it. It should have been given to another actor.
It was good to see how HJ operates but she too was made one dimensional. We never got to see what made her so evil. Even Darth Wader started off as a good guy... it was cool to see for 1 ep for like 10 mins how HY manipulates the Lapdog - and it would have been good to see a LOT more of that.
The Lapdog too was made one-dimensional. To make the drama good, we should have seen HJ and Lapdog more closely - their past, their current - is he just her right hand, they never sleep together and she keeps abusing him???? So WHY is he so loyal to her???? we should have seen the Lapdog wrestle within himself and then with HY about her treatment of him, about her having a lover, we should have seen confrontations between HY and Lapdog, we should have seen Lapdog sink his teeth into the Professor.
Chairman Ma, the Gold Diggers, JM's family, etc are all ... too bland as well Chairman Ma perhaps is the only one in the drama that made progress to some degree. He was a greedy rat who protected HY and threw JM's family under the bus and despised SK as a disabled person - and he repented that - BUT then he became a gang leader and kidnapped and tortured the other gang.
The scenes of torturing HJ and Lapdog to the point of bleeding and lack of water and food were certainly killing the drama.
ok with junho s help his bio-dad [127ep.] and his bio- mom [128ep.] are both free for now . the chairman was hit…
JH did the illegal bonsai thing with HY, then he tried to cover up the loss by swindling the biggest shareholder, he kept quiet about crimes of his bio family
and he lured SR to the plastic surgery, he is an accomplice. ANd when he heard what happened, he said he didnt care for SR.
There must be other stuff I am not remembering right now
ok with junho s help his bio-dad [127ep.] and his bio- mom [128ep.] are both free for now . the chairman was hit…
I missed to watch that part, but I saw posts about the illegal company via bonzai trees. So JH DID DO ILLEGAL STUFF WITH HY
Finally the drama shows where JH and JM's actions veering off course were leading - to many disasters, shattering any illusion that JH is a good guy or that JM is a great strategist
The gae at the end is for 'dog', and the 'bul' part is for 'fire', so it's 'Fire Dog', if that can help you remember.…
maybe you know the answer to this too? Someone on MDL said they are not from Asia or Korea, and then said they are from North Korea. I said well that is Asia and Korea and they basically cussed at me for ignorantly offending them.. Wth. The world map shows that N Korea is in Asia and it is Korea, the N part... so what wrong did I say? Thanks.
The gae at the end is for 'dog', and the 'bul' part is for 'fire', so it's 'Fire Dog', if that can help you remember.…
THANK YOU!!! Ah I am glad that I heard it correctly :)
Korean sounds are different than say English sounds, the mouth and throat is used differently, plus there are different pronunciations by different native speakers and different ways of saying the same thing, plus the honorifics versus casual, so it is interesting - and kdramas are a great way to learn Korean, actually
well she didnt know he was her father. All that she sees and knows is a handsome young guy who is super nice and…
I totally misread the post
so this answer is the wrong reply for the post, it is about FOR JUST LOOKS and I will keep it here bc someone might like to read it.
==== Hm I am surprised as to how YOU think :) A person does not have to be good looking to swoon someone. What matters is how charming they are.... how attentive, caring, and persistent in showing their affection... For both men and women...
For example, the infamous Italian or French lover is often not a handsome guy but he charms you off your feet!!!!!! That French dude also is likely to be skinny and have a huge nose but ... he works it so well!!! Also, I have seen Brazilian men chasing women, and I have seen all kinds of Africans courting all kinds of women and omg those dudes are often not handsome but they often have a strong body and they move and they are SUPER EXTRA CHARMING and have a whole bag of tricks, and they get whoever they want. For example, I was watching a Brazilian dude on the beach in Hawaii, hunting down a very gorgeous Brazilian lady in a bikini. He was asking her to go out eat with him, and to make his point, he was sometimes gently pulling on the bikini ties on her hip. She was visibly flustered. That dude does NOT have to be good looking. He has a strong body and totally knows what he is doing lmao A surfer dude :)
**** Of course, the looks are NOT the only thing, the personality is what really matters... Otherwise, most people on this planet would not find a mate lmao
I was once in an airbnb with a drop dead gorgeous Turkish guy and a very ugly African guy but the Turkish guy had personality of cardboard and nobody ever noticed him, and the African guy was omg wheeler and dealer, an experienced charmer, he was snagging women left and right, he had a girlfriend and on top of it, every week at least 1 new one... The women were lining up for him... he had his pick.... =============
The guys I mentioned above were not honest and still the women fell for them. NOW IMAGINE THE CHARMING GUY WHO IS HONESTLY DEDICATED - who is gonna resist him????
that is why I said - handsome young guy who cares for her and gives her lots of attention and is super smart and capable and totally dedicated to her.
Which woman or man would not be flustered by a guy like that?
It is like someone is giving you a gift of themselves for you to use, and of course you would fall off your feet. Anyone would. And in this case, this young lady is seeing a very good looking healthy young male and of course she is gonna start thinking - woow this is gooooood.....
well she didnt know he was her father. All that she sees and knows is a handsome young guy who is super nice and…
Hm maybe she never will? if they secretly swap bodies again... ? but then the real young dude will have NO CLUE about business lmao nor memories of his business dealings while with her... Maybe - the body swap will happen after some event that makes him justify his lack of business savy by amnesia?
Yeah seems like the daughter is gonna be confused and/or embarassed no matter what scenario plays out - telling her the truth, or a secret body swap again
every good father is proud of his pretty daughter - he thinks to himself - I MADE THIS BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF ART
Definitely. Freud started it and Karl Jung officiated that and it is commonly known is modern psychology
and you can see it in real life - children first behave as their parent of the same gender and first fall in love/date/marry someone who resembles their parent of opposite gender - and only when a child matures, there is more authenticity
Start overcoming it already, for goodness sakes!
Is the whole drama gonna be about that? dragging that plot on and on and on and on and on, forever to the end?? heck i aint watching that.
and dragging it for weeks and weeks
Those 3 need to go to jail together
It is a good thing that JH freed the captives bc it was really illegal and gruesome for Gang Ma to kidnap and torture gang HJ
and
now JH is an accomplice in attempted murder of Chairman and possibly others
lmao
Imo it was bad pacing but not for the reasons you mentioned, and definitely, these last episodes are a circus.
Imo the fundamental mistake is that characters stayed the same, there is no character growth. That is just NOT fun.
the drama was kept STALE - the characters were kept STALE -
and what makes it fun is inner conflict showing as external conflict and attempts to remedy
Specifically, the writer made mistakes bc:
JM was made too dumb and ignorant and SLOOOOOW like molasses, So this thick, slow, dumb character was made the lead for most of the drama. ooooommmmmm ggggggoood... she killed the pace. She kept it at the tortoise speed.
DUMB MI KILLED THE DRAMA BC SHE IS SO DUMB AND SLOW. JM should have had much less time on the screen, and SR should have had a lot more time on the screen.
SR was fun, smart, peppy, and every episode with her was fun, but she was in like .. 5? episodes lmao and then killed. SR SHOULD HAVE HAD A LOT MORE TIME
BH was made perfect from the get go and so one dimensional Superman who is slightly dumb but always steady faithful, such ONE DIMENSIONAL FLAT CHARACTER with the personality of cardboard. He was like a pion and servant of JM. We never saw him wrestle with any emotional dilemmas, or think, or stand up to JM, etc. He just WAS THERE as steady and unmovable as a rock. Watching rocks for too long is boring.
The only time BH was interesting was when he snagged JM from the wedding with JH. But ... they never talked about it later and BH and JM did not really change. They both stayed the same and their relationship stayed the same old STALE. Bummer. Having BH and JM "frozen" in their ignorant selves was just B O R I N G. We never saw them rehash stuff, argue, etc.
We never saw any real contact between JM and BH. There is absolutely NO affection besides a few words in like ep 120 from JM... BH tried to kiss her like a teenager would.... THEY NEVER TALK FOR REAL, they never argue, they never work out their disagreements, differences, character flaws.... They never think of how to improve themselves for the other ... esp JM has put ZERO effort into this relationship... BH had to chase her...
and the end result is the two of them sitting around office table talking about how to catch HY.
JM-BH relationship is like between two comrade spies, not between two ppl in love... It is a relationship only on paper.... In other words, THIS DRAMA TOTALLY LACKS ROMANCE AND LOVE. JM and BH behave like two people who were married for the last 100 years and now are old and tired of each other and just thinking how to take down a nasty neighbor...
JH was made mean from the start and he got meaner and meaner. He was interesting for a short while when we saw how flustered he was to find his bio mom and when for a second we saw his gentle needy side. HOWEVER, that was for a split second and then he was back to being cruel mean greedy selfish. Now he is a perfect gang boss in HY's gang.
JH AND SR ARE THE MOST COMPLEX CHARACTERS IN THIS DRAMA AND WE JUST NEVER GOT TO SEE THAT!!!! SR was taken off screen
and JH actor is just unskilled to act this role. He just cannot act it. It should have been given to another actor.
It was good to see how HJ operates but she too was made one dimensional. We never got to see what made her so evil. Even Darth Wader started off as a good guy... it was cool to see for 1 ep for like 10 mins how HY manipulates the Lapdog - and it would have been good to see a LOT more of that.
The Lapdog too was made one-dimensional. To make the drama good, we should have seen HJ and Lapdog more closely - their past, their current - is he just her right hand, they never sleep together and she keeps abusing him???? So WHY is he so loyal to her???? we should have seen the Lapdog wrestle within himself and then with HY about her treatment of him, about her having a lover, we should have seen confrontations between HY and Lapdog, we should have seen Lapdog sink his teeth into the Professor.
Chairman Ma, the Gold Diggers, JM's family, etc are all ... too bland as well
Chairman Ma perhaps is the only one in the drama that made progress to some degree. He was a greedy rat who protected HY and threw JM's family under the bus and despised SK as a disabled person - and he repented that - BUT then he became a gang leader and kidnapped and tortured the other gang.
The scenes of torturing HJ and Lapdog to the point of bleeding and lack of water and food were certainly killing the drama.
he kept quiet about crimes of his bio family
and he lured SR to the plastic surgery, he is an accomplice. ANd when he heard what happened, he said he didnt care for SR.
There must be other stuff I am not remembering right now
Finally the drama shows where JH and JM's actions veering off course were leading - to many disasters, shattering any illusion that JH is a good guy or that JM is a great strategist
Someone on MDL said they are not from Asia or Korea, and then said they are from North Korea. I said well that is Asia and Korea and they basically cussed at me for ignorantly offending them.. Wth. The world map shows that N Korea is in Asia and it is Korea, the N part... so what wrong did I say? Thanks.
Ah I am glad that I heard it correctly :)
Korean sounds are different than say English sounds, the mouth and throat is used differently, plus there are different pronunciations by different native speakers and different ways of saying the same thing, plus the honorifics versus casual, so it is interesting - and kdramas are a great way to learn Korean, actually
Thanks for explaining it!
so this answer is the wrong reply for the post, it is about FOR JUST LOOKS and I will keep it here bc someone might like to read it.
====
Hm I am surprised as to how YOU think :) A person does not have to be good looking to swoon someone. What matters is how charming they are.... how attentive, caring, and persistent in showing their affection... For both men and women...
For example, the infamous Italian or French lover is often not a handsome guy but he charms you off your feet!!!!!! That French dude also is likely to be skinny and have a huge nose but ... he works it so well!!! Also, I have seen Brazilian men chasing women, and I have seen all kinds of Africans courting all kinds of women and omg those dudes are often not handsome but they often have a strong body and they move and they are SUPER EXTRA CHARMING and have a whole bag of tricks, and they get whoever they want.
For example, I was watching a Brazilian dude on the beach in Hawaii, hunting down a very gorgeous Brazilian lady in a bikini. He was asking her to go out eat with him, and to make his point, he was sometimes gently pulling on the bikini ties on her hip. She was visibly flustered. That dude does NOT have to be good looking. He has a strong body and totally knows what he is doing lmao A surfer dude :)
**** Of course, the looks are NOT the only thing, the personality is what really matters... Otherwise, most people on this planet would not find a mate lmao
I was once in an airbnb with a drop dead gorgeous Turkish guy and a very ugly African guy but the Turkish guy had personality of cardboard and nobody ever noticed him, and the African guy was omg wheeler and dealer, an experienced charmer, he was snagging women left and right, he had a girlfriend and on top of it, every week at least 1 new one... The women were lining up for him... he had his pick....
=============
The guys I mentioned above were not honest and still the women fell for them.
NOW IMAGINE THE CHARMING GUY WHO IS HONESTLY DEDICATED - who is gonna resist him????
that is why I said - handsome young guy who cares for her and gives her lots of attention and is super smart and capable and totally dedicated to her.
Which woman or man would not be flustered by a guy like that?
It is like someone is giving you a gift of themselves for you to use, and of course you would fall off your feet. Anyone would.
And in this case, this young lady is seeing a very good looking healthy young male and of course she is gonna start thinking - woow this is gooooood.....
Yeah seems like the daughter is gonna be confused and/or embarassed no matter what scenario plays out - telling her the truth, or a secret body swap again
and you can see it in real life - children first behave as their parent of the same gender and first fall in love/date/marry someone who resembles their parent of opposite gender - and only when a child matures, there is more authenticity