it kinda looks like Made in Korea, doesnt it - but has a very different vibe. This one is dark and tragic but somehow does not feel violent and raw ... ... somehow it has dark comedy too... and feels sophisticated, there is complexity and NUANCE in all characters and the plot
This drama isn’t for the weak hearts and surely not to just kill or pass time with. They have dark elements…
Yang Mi is a korean Epstein, and Sang A had to pay to rise to fame. WHO she had to mate with was not revealed yet. Could it be the Major?... we will see
Wow the way this is filmed - like the subjective look how events "feel" to us, how it looks to our subjective eye and mind, rather than how it objectively looks, e.g. through the camera. Very interesting. So the story is not new at all, but how it is told makes it fresh. Let's see how deep it goes. It is totally dark and tragic and murky but still has nuance, complexity, sophistication and even some humor, making fun of things, like whistling at the very end of ep 1. That is the best cliffhanger I have ever seen LOL I am so happy this drama is not about pretty and plasticized young faces and overly skinny bodies. ML looks quite real and is very handsome. And I love his voice over. EmpressKi actress is acting so well here! but is so much thinner than before. I liked her look before Omg I recognized ML from Lucifer ... and Princess Hours! Omg! He looks so different now - he aged well, imo he is more handsome now bc he got a muscular body now. I did not recognize him at all at Love Your Enemy! he looked so bored in that drama. Here he looks in his element. Yeah that Nana aged into having some thick lips LOL
There is... his whistling at the end :) I am not really joking. This drama is dark and complicated, so dark comedic elements are used to make fun out of people and events. Comical feel that is rather devilish, snide, shocking and/or tragic - and funny -- like his whistling at the very end of ep 1. Check out that scene.
I found comedy in the camera work and scenes, like how his mistress was introduced and their conversation about his wife. Exposing the dirt in this drama has dark comedy elements But it is not a "funny" drama by any means
Wow Min Jun still did not tell his mom and his mom never confirmed with him that Yu Na was NOT his gfriend???? wow ... Both are super stupid. What kind of relationship is that?? Btw the main character in Mad Concrete Dreams is even more stupid than that and that drama would fit perfectly as a daily
Imo based on her looks and actions, she could be a possessive, clingy ex-lover, "noona sponsor" type..... and if she is his mother he is avoiding, then ... she is LOL
I dont think it is going back to square 1 if BH helps JM. He is not "saving" her anymore, he is HELPING…
Yeah I have faith, she is not such a dumb little goose anymore, and is definitely not impulsive like before BUT ... she is not a perfect spy yet LOL She doesnt know how to sneak around properly :) and doesnt know how to HIDE when found out :) Nobody really is a good spy here, they are all amateurs... and they must help each other. They will all need saving from time to time and will save each other. Now JM can save BH sometimes, and sometimes he will save her. And they must cooperate at all times... To say it short - THEY MUST BE A TEAM. Like CEO Chae and LapDog are a team.
For the record: I saw ep 1-2 of Mad Concrete Dreams. The ML, his family and his partner is crime are soooo dumb, they make JM look super extra smart. The only reason why that Mad Dreams is a fancy short drama is bc it has super hyped music. But it is no better than First Man. Just shorter.
Indeed- back to square one- she has been sneaking around just fine, without getting caught over the last two weeks…
The job is too big for one person and JM needs help. BH will now monitor SR a lot better in the hospital, more alert to Chae etc BH and JM can now exchange info and paste the puzzle a lot faster helping each other will help BOTH of them stay safer
but it also can be detrimental, as BH talks too much and now TP knows, and we all know TP is an impulsive dumbo
Huh, so Hwayoung and Manager Lee are suspecting Taepyung. Since they already mentioned about 'Jang Mi' waking…
I dont think it is going back to square 1 if BH helps JM. He is not "saving" her anymore, he is HELPING her. JM is much smarter now. YEAH WE HOPE THE WRITER DOES NOT MAKE HER A DUMB DAMSEL IN DISTRESS AGAIN :) **The job is too big for 1 person** For example: BH has to monitor SR a lot better in that hospital. Everyone has to be on alert for Chae. etc
JM or TP have to tell BH about his dad. Not telling him could cost someone their life
Es bastante divertido y ligero, se que la mayoría quiere que quede con el 2 ML porque es más guapo, pero lo…
100% agree. Imo what you wrote is the best review of this drama. You accurately observed and described and in a very concise way. Great review!
I used Google translate and it said this is what you wrote: "It's quite fun and lighthearted. I know most people want her to end up with the second male lead because he's more handsome, but I'm sorry to Team Jisoo, but she sees the male lead differently. She waits for him, thinks about him, expects something from him, and agrees to make plans with him. The other guy always meets her by chance; their encounters are more spontaneous and relaxed. But I don't see that explosive chemistry you all talk about with the second lead just because he's more handsome. Even though the male lead isn't more handsome, I feel like they have better chemistry, and if they're not together, it's because the male lead is quite slow."
Nothing so mysterious.... She buys debt bc it is easy... It is a lot less work and a lot more profit bc they kill or threaten ppl to just give them property for cheap... Giving loans to ppl means the job of a loan shark, you keep collecting every month etc... But Yo Na's job is to COLLECT ONCE... it leaves less traces and allows use of loopholes, bc when they buy the loan, they can put TOTALLY NEW RULES on the loan - and they request that the loan be paid in full immediately. Then they force the owner to sell for super cheap. Then they make tons of money by redevelopment and/or resale. You cannot see that?
Who cares how she treats snails when she murders people and destroys families and businesses in most vile ways and makes a living by crime and murder??? regardless of how she treats that snail, she kills people in most vile ways, so to me she is just insane and I am not interested in her one iota. To me, the character is BORING and also THE ACTING IS BORING bc the character is so 1-dimensional. I just pray she transforms. But I do not really care bc she and her colleabues and entire Global thing are just cancereous rot, they ARE EVIL incarnate pions. They ideally need to be gone - but that is impossible - so they need to be in check.
To me, the family of ML is what is interesting and I root for them, bc they are the backbone o the society, they are the worker bees, without them, there is no country of S Korea and there is no prosperity. So I am VERY interested that they learn more about business and life.. right now thy are total moron dumbos, ML is literally low IQ and dumb, and FL and daughter are spoiled naive brats
I agree with you. It's kind of repulsive to see all that drinking. It takes away some of the humor and fun out…
Koreans themselves are trying... Second Shot at Love was about recovering female alcoholic and her family, and her already-recovered guy helping; and Positively Yours had nonalcoholic beer and making sure the pregnant lady does not drink -watching out for pregnant women repeats in all kdramas now S Koreans are going extinct bc their birth rate is the lowest int he world, so they have to try to reduce alcohol at least for women and esp pregnant women :)
I agree with you. It's kind of repulsive to see all that drinking. It takes away some of the humor and fun out…
Of course not everyone is a drug user LOL But ... Common!!!!! In San Fran ppl shoot heroin on the street!!!! and I just did a search on "dispensaries selling marijuana in san francisco bay area " , there are tons of dispensaries in the Bay area. I drove through the downtown on the highway and most of those big billboards were advertising online sales of pot, and YES a very proud official too... Humbolt county is just up north and they just grow pot.
Most cities in the USA has at least one pot shop on every corner. I saw them in NYC, Honolulu,
Ah not to mention the billboards in San Fran, Los Angeles, NYC about syphilis epidemics, AIDS, Hepatitis C - all STDs and all epidemics. Not to mention NYC subway totally plastered with Tinder advertisements, entire subway cars and entire entry/exit area stalls - yeah you pass through the stalls plastered with Tinder adds!!!!!
I SAW ALL OF THE ABOVE WITH MY OWN EYES AND EVEN TOOK SOME PICTURES OF IT
The USA Is a total disarray and decadence. Like old ROme before it fell apart
yeah yeah sure LOL I would say then - he is THE DUMBEST lol His copartner in crime is super dumb LOL His wife is dumb for not checking up on him, his daughter is selfish entitled dumb to think her dad can never have problems, never needs help. and can always provide for her. Mother and daughter are soooo spoiled, they see the guy delivers, and they didnt connect the dots and did not ask questions.
Mother in law is NOT dumb. She is extremely greedy and selfish calculated. Daughter in law is NOT dumb. She fought even in that basement. The global corp is NOT dumb.
The dead detective is smart AND dumb naive too, he found out all info and knew that they would be on his trail and was not careful enough
She was never really interested in SML. He felt like a fling from the start. She was interested in ML from the…
Ok I speak no Spanish so I used google translate, so I think this is what you wrote: " How does the protagonist use SML to get attention? She literally treats him like a friend, and their encounters are always casual or because she goes to buy coffee where he works. I think the only favor she asked of him was to be a bartender, and it wasn't even a favor, it was a job. I don't understand how she's abusive and uses him." ====== SO THIS IS MY ANSWER TO THE ENGLISH TRANSLATION: ****SML butts his way in, he barges into FL's personal space and uses any chance he has to touch her and tease her about romantic things - he keeps POKING her ****** for example... he invites her drinking, to the playground, to lay next to her, to ride a motorcycle with him, to talk to her in the cafe, to lean over to kiss her, to wipe her lips, to talk to her how he likes spending time with her, to take her to hospital, etc etc etc etc HE POKES HER AND TEASES HER AND GETS VERY CLOSE TO HER AND INTO HER PHSYCAL SPACE. HE USES EVERY CHANCE HE HAS TO TOUCH HER AND TO PROVOKE HER HORMONES. He is flirting with her. AND SHE PRETENDS SHE DOES NOT SEE IT.
SHE IS A MORON AND SHE IS ABUSIVE, PUTTING HIM INTO THE FRIEND ZONE YET ENJOYING ALL THE ROMANTIC THINGS LIKE RIDING A MOTORCYCLE WITH HER LEGS AROUND HIM AND HUGGING HIS WAIST, eating with him and he giving her full attention...
THEY NEVER TALKED ABOUT HIM. IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT HER, HE GIVING HER ATTENTION. She never gave him any attention. They are not equal. She is the center of attention in their relationship. So essentially she is abusing and using him to get his attention, and he is abusing and using her - and HIMSELF - by trying with someone who is so obviously not interested.
He is a predator and he is nice as long as he has hopes that his hunt will succeed. He is also deeply wounded and insecure and lacks self respect, to chase someone who is in love with someone else. FL is INCONSIDERATE and thus toxic, pretending she does not see him flirting, yet allowing him to keep flirting with her. THAT IS TOTALLY AWFUL, to control him like that, to have him on the string like that. SHE IS TERRIBLY TOXIC BY NEVER PUTTING CLEAR BOUNDARIES. He is insecure and toxic, keeping his hopes high bc she never rejected him clearly. But all she is doing with ML is indirectly a rejection of SML. SML is trying to win a game he already lost. :)
Instead of telling him that he lost, FL stays silent and keeps him around and has fun. She is a total slimeball.
Overall, FM-SML relationship is highly toxic and immature, both of them using each other
She was never really interested in SML. He felt like a fling from the start. She was interested in ML from the…
FL will never be swayed, she has already decided, long tine ago :) SML can try to butt his way in, but it is all in vain. He WILL be causing trouble but he has no chance for real. FL-SML relationship is toxic bc they are using each other. She likes his flirting and attention to her but has no intent to date him, so she is stringing him and he is consenting. She is slimey dishonest and he has no respect for himself.
I thought "sister or ex" bc she looks almost his age... I just read someone said she is his mother. She might be - in which case she looks awfully young and/or had him very young. The energy of "possesing and controling him as the younger subordinate" is definitely there :) so she is definitely someone with some power over him :)
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It is totally dark and tragic and murky but still has nuance, complexity, sophistication and even some humor, making fun of things, like whistling at the very end of ep 1. That is the best cliffhanger I have ever seen LOL
I am so happy this drama is not about pretty and plasticized young faces and overly skinny bodies. ML looks quite real and is very handsome. And I love his voice over.
EmpressKi actress is acting so well here! but is so much thinner than before. I liked her look before
Omg I recognized ML from Lucifer ... and Princess Hours! Omg! He looks so different now - he aged well, imo he is more handsome now bc he got a muscular body now. I did not recognize him at all at Love Your Enemy! he looked so bored in that drama. Here he looks in his element.
Yeah that Nana aged into having some thick lips LOL
I am not really joking. This drama is dark and complicated, so dark comedic elements are used to make fun out of people and events. Comical feel that is rather devilish, snide, shocking and/or tragic - and funny -- like his whistling at the very end of ep 1. Check out that scene.
I found comedy in the camera work and scenes, like how his mistress was introduced and their conversation about his wife.
Exposing the dirt in this drama has dark comedy elements
But it is not a "funny" drama by any means
Btw the main character in Mad Concrete Dreams is even more stupid than that and that drama would fit perfectly as a daily
Nobody really is a good spy here, they are all amateurs... and they must help each other. They will all need saving from time to time and will save each other. Now JM can save BH sometimes, and sometimes he will save her. And they must cooperate at all times...
To say it short - THEY MUST BE A TEAM. Like CEO Chae and LapDog are a team.
The only reason why that Mad Dreams is a fancy short drama is bc it has super hyped music. But it is no better than First Man. Just shorter.
BH will now monitor SR a lot better in the hospital, more alert to Chae etc
BH and JM can now exchange info and paste the puzzle a lot faster
helping each other will help BOTH of them stay safer
but it also can be detrimental, as BH talks too much and now TP knows, and we all know TP is an impulsive dumbo
**The job is too big for 1 person**
For example: BH has to monitor SR a lot better in that hospital. Everyone has to be on alert for Chae. etc
JM or TP have to tell BH about his dad. Not telling him could cost someone their life
I used Google translate and it said this is what you wrote: "It's quite fun and lighthearted. I know most people want her to end up with the second male lead because he's more handsome, but I'm sorry to Team Jisoo, but she sees the male lead differently. She waits for him, thinks about him, expects something from him, and agrees to make plans with him. The other guy always meets her by chance; their encounters are more spontaneous and relaxed. But I don't see that explosive chemistry you all talk about with the second lead just because he's more handsome. Even though the male lead isn't more handsome, I feel like they have better chemistry, and if they're not together, it's because the male lead is quite slow."
Who cares how she treats snails when she murders people and destroys families and businesses in most vile ways and makes a living by crime and murder??? regardless of how she treats that snail, she kills people in most vile ways, so to me she is just insane and I am not interested in her one iota. To me, the character is BORING and also THE ACTING IS BORING bc the character is so 1-dimensional. I just pray she transforms. But I do not really care bc she and her colleabues and entire Global thing are just cancereous rot, they ARE EVIL incarnate pions. They ideally need to be gone - but that is impossible - so they need to be in check.
To me, the family of ML is what is interesting and I root for them, bc they are the backbone o the society, they are the worker bees, without them, there is no country of S Korea and there is no prosperity. So I am VERY interested that they learn more about business and life.. right now thy are total moron dumbos, ML is literally low IQ and dumb, and FL and daughter are spoiled naive brats
S Koreans are going extinct bc their birth rate is the lowest int he world, so they have to try to reduce alcohol at least for women and esp pregnant women :)
But ... Common!!!!! In San Fran ppl shoot heroin on the street!!!!
and I just did a search on "dispensaries selling marijuana in san francisco bay area " , there are tons of dispensaries in the Bay area.
I drove through the downtown on the highway and most of those big billboards were advertising online sales of pot, and YES a very proud official too...
Humbolt county is just up north and they just grow pot.
Most cities in the USA has at least one pot shop on every corner. I saw them in NYC, Honolulu,
Ah not to mention the billboards in San Fran, Los Angeles, NYC about syphilis epidemics, AIDS, Hepatitis C - all STDs and all epidemics. Not to mention NYC subway totally plastered with Tinder advertisements, entire subway cars and entire entry/exit area stalls - yeah you pass through the stalls plastered with Tinder adds!!!!!
I SAW ALL OF THE ABOVE WITH MY OWN EYES AND EVEN TOOK SOME PICTURES OF IT
The USA Is a total disarray and decadence. Like old ROme before it fell apart
His copartner in crime is super dumb LOL His wife is dumb for not checking up on him, his daughter is selfish entitled dumb to think her dad can never have problems, never needs help. and can always provide for her. Mother and daughter are soooo spoiled, they see the guy delivers, and they didnt connect the dots and did not ask questions.
Mother in law is NOT dumb. She is extremely greedy and selfish calculated.
Daughter in law is NOT dumb. She fought even in that basement.
The global corp is NOT dumb.
The dead detective is smart AND dumb naive too, he found out all info and knew that they would be on his trail and was not careful enough
" How does the protagonist use SML to get attention? She literally treats him like a friend, and their encounters are always casual or because she goes to buy coffee where he works. I think the only favor she asked of him was to be a bartender, and it wasn't even a favor, it was a job. I don't understand how she's abusive and uses him."
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SO THIS IS MY ANSWER TO THE ENGLISH TRANSLATION:
****SML butts his way in, he barges into FL's personal space and uses any chance he has to touch her and tease her about romantic things - he keeps POKING her ****** for example... he invites her drinking, to the playground, to lay next to her, to ride a motorcycle with him, to talk to her in the cafe, to lean over to kiss her, to wipe her lips, to talk to her how he likes spending time with her, to take her to hospital, etc etc etc etc HE POKES HER AND TEASES HER AND GETS VERY CLOSE TO HER AND INTO HER PHSYCAL SPACE. HE USES EVERY CHANCE HE HAS TO TOUCH HER AND TO PROVOKE HER HORMONES. He is flirting with her. AND SHE PRETENDS SHE DOES NOT SEE IT.
SHE IS A MORON AND SHE IS ABUSIVE, PUTTING HIM INTO THE FRIEND ZONE YET ENJOYING ALL THE ROMANTIC THINGS LIKE RIDING A MOTORCYCLE WITH HER LEGS AROUND HIM AND HUGGING HIS WAIST, eating with him and he giving her full attention...
THEY NEVER TALKED ABOUT HIM. IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT HER, HE GIVING HER ATTENTION. She never gave him any attention. They are not equal. She is the center of attention in their relationship. So essentially she is abusing and using him to get his attention, and he is abusing and using her - and HIMSELF - by trying with someone who is so obviously not interested.
He is a predator and he is nice as long as he has hopes that his hunt will succeed. He is also deeply wounded and insecure and lacks self respect, to chase someone who is in love with someone else. FL is INCONSIDERATE and thus toxic, pretending she does not see him flirting, yet allowing him to keep flirting with her. THAT IS TOTALLY AWFUL, to control him like that, to have him on the string like that. SHE IS TERRIBLY TOXIC BY NEVER PUTTING CLEAR BOUNDARIES.
He is insecure and toxic, keeping his hopes high bc she never rejected him clearly. But all she is doing with ML is indirectly a rejection of SML. SML is trying to win a game he already lost. :)
Instead of telling him that he lost, FL stays silent and keeps him around and has fun. She is a total slimeball.
Overall, FM-SML relationship is highly toxic and immature, both of them using each other
FL-SML relationship is toxic bc they are using each other. She likes his flirting and attention to her but has no intent to date him, so she is stringing him and he is consenting. She is slimey dishonest and he has no respect for himself.
I just read someone said she is his mother. She might be - in which case she looks awfully young and/or had him very young. The energy of "possesing and controling him as the younger subordinate" is definitely there :) so she is definitely someone with some power over him :)