It is shady that the whole drama and this "wonderful dedicated man" is bc he knows her father so he must know her for a long time too... I mean, IS THERE TRUE LOVE WITHOUT THE CHILDHOOD TROPE??
are S Koreans so dead set on making sure only childhood friends pair up in S Korea... ? No wonder S Korea has globally lowest birth rate..
Only a male screenwriter could write a screenplay where women get down on their knees during a breakup. Very bad…
It is to balance off the fact that FL is a smart confident strong rather wise person - which could piss off the sexist audience that is totally addicted and used to having DUMB female characters -
so SFL was made dumber than usual bc FL is smarter than usual
After four episodes, I honestly don't know what this drama wants me to feel.The breakup with the ex is supposed…
in other words, a recycled pile of parts that worked elsewhere so hopefully they will work here too
There is one twist though, FL is a smart, confident, capable and strong person, and she has common sense. That is fresh. Also, ML and FL are quite mature and have common sense, so their courtship is free of games and toxicity. That is fresh too.
And so it COULD piss off the usual sexist audience, so used to stupid dumb FL damsel in distress
the drama is too bland to piss off anyone so hopefully ppl will watch it and not complain too much
ep 76the counter reason is stupid he had an affair with his brother's fiance... lol soooo? how is that something…
well to be fair we need to ask S Koreans, how bad is it when, **during the succession battle**, a chaebol is exposed to be in an affair with his brother's WIFE ... ? To me that is not a big deal and seems like any other chaebol can hush those news with money, but... this is during succession battle... and... I am not S Korean :) I do not really understand
ah the nasty ploy of netflix and cdramas to kill kdramas... so let me explain it to you: when all eps are released…
you can wait until it finishes airing and then binge it
BUT then you miss the time to reflect ... you miss all the discussions... ppl see what you dont see.. and vice versa... and it takes time for a good drama to be digested. There are so many details you will miss if you watch too fast
And, I hope you have something meaningful in your life to spend time on so that dramas are just the icing on the cake, not the cake itself
And based on the legal definition of “genocide”, Israel’s actions toward Palestinians align with several…
Please no lame excuses. I said what I said. Your last response is education to ppl who will read, and YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE to convey the message correctly and effectively and shut up the haters. Yes they CAN be shut up and you did it with your last post. Do NOT take long side routes that end nowhere. The last post you did is the shortcut to cutting out all bs
Bye now, I am out of time to continue this discussion
I HAVE THE END OF THIS ZIONISTS et al vs. PALESTINE discussion. The core of that discussion is that "One of Main Characters of this drama was bombing Palestine and being complicit in genocide" and thus "the drama is a Zionist propaganda"
The facts are: 1. Agent Kim got out of all that kind of stuff. He was a nasty double agent and he got out. THAT is the point of the drama.
Also, I dont know how you look at it, but it is clear that he was a paid serial killer. He was not anyone "nice" or "honorable" by any means. He was a double agent.
***** Mr Kim ex-assassin is still pretty much a serial killer in his heart. Almost totally shut down as a person. He can cook breakfast but he cannot relate to his daughter. THAT is the topic of this drama *****
2. He choose to leave his paid serial killer past because of his daughter, not bc of his personal political beliefs. He had no political agenda of his own, he was just a PION in a big machine and he used the system to kill for money.
3. AGENT KIM WAS ESSENTIALLY A PAID ASSASSIN. HE KILLED FOR WHOEVER GAVE HIM MOST MONEY. HE WAS A SERIAL KILLER UNDER PRETENSE OF THE LAW.
He worked for N Korea, then S Korea, then as a double agent, then.... HE IS A PAID CRIMINAL. Essentially he was a paid serial killer who was allowed by the law to kill.
yeah the stark reality of all special forces anywhere... Some are naive enough to think they are doing it for their country - and sometimes they even might.... but more often than not... they dont :( bc their commanders are corrupt and act for the sake of money only........ and some know they are just having a good time and/or making money killing people.
Agent Kim was nasty and greedy - he was a double agent. HE HAD NO POLITICAL BELONGING. he changed sides and killed for the sake of money.
So really the drama is not about Agent Kim's political beliefs and affiliations - he was affiliated with anyone who paid him - the drama is about his PAID SERIAL KILLER HISTORY and HOW THAT MADE HIM TOTALLY UNABLE TO RELATE TO PPL, INCLUDING HIS OWN DAUGHTER
He was a double agent, for whoever paid him. ***** So you can say - his past was to be a paid assassin. ****** So in some ways, when a paid criminal double agent like that is bombing Palestine, it is actually showing what is really happening, what kind of trash is bombing Palestine just bc someone is paying them.
SO LET US PUT THE END TO THE MIDDLE EAST DISCUSSION
and LET US FOCUS ON AGENT KIM CHARACTER ARC - HE IS AN EX SERIAL KILLER PAID ASSASSIN, i.e someone totally cold and cruel. And he left all that to raise his daughter. NOW HE IS A FATHER, AND HE STILL HAS NO ABILITY TO RELATE TO PPL, EVEN TO HIS DAUGHTER. Bc he has not changed much internally. *** THAT is the point of this drama. How he will change internally to catch up with his new life as a loving caring father. ***
The drama is really about rehabing special forces... Agent Kim was a paid serial killer... cold cruel shut down... so cruel he genocided Palestinians.... so THAT person now is supposed to be loving caring father and HE HAS NO CLUE. He has a vague idea that cooking breakfast has something to do with it, but he is CLUELESS, he does not know what love looks like and behaves like.
MR KIM **** SUCKS **** AT BEING A FATHER, and he is not even a good enough agent nor a human being to think about his daughter's needs and protection - well she is not paying him lmao so he is NEGLIGENT towards his daughter.
So now his daughter could lose her life bc he failed as a parent esp as a parent with sufficient skills to protect his daughter - e.g put a tracker on her phone, follow her to find out what really goes on in school, act as her bodyguard, .....
and most importantly TALK WITH HIS DAUGHTER, establish a rapport, and BE A GOOD LOVING CARING TEAM WITH HIS DAUGHTER
***** Mr Kim ex-assassin is still pretty much a serial killer in his heart. Almost totally shut down as a person. He can cook breakfast but he cannot relate to his daughter. THAT is the topic of this drama *****
Lol, on some i ask why they think is propaganda, but no reply yet or a clear reply . I was sudden curious today.
He got out of that. THAT is the point of the drama and you should mention that too.
He choose to leave that because of his daughter, not bc of his personal political beliefs. He had no political agenda of his own, he was just a PION in a big machine and he used the system to kill for money.
Essentially he was a serial killer who was allowed by the law to kill.
And he was nasty and greedy - he was a double agent. HE HAD NO POLITICAL BELONGING. He killed just for the sake of money.
So you can say - his past was to be a paid assassin.
So really it is not about his political beliefs but his CRIMINAL HISTORY
HE WAS A PAID ASSASSIN, FOR WHOEVER WOULD PAY HIM. And he left all that to raise his daughter.
I mean, IS THERE TRUE LOVE WITHOUT THE CHILDHOOD TROPE??
are S Koreans so dead set on making sure only childhood friends pair up in S Korea... ?
No wonder S Korea has globally lowest birth rate..
so SFL was made dumber than usual bc FL is smarter than usual
There is one twist though, FL is a smart, confident, capable and strong person, and she has common sense. That is fresh.
Also, ML and FL are quite mature and have common sense, so their courtship is free of games and toxicity. That is fresh too.
And so it COULD piss off the usual sexist audience, so used to stupid dumb FL damsel in distress
the drama is too bland to piss off anyone
so hopefully ppl will watch it and not complain too much
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To me that is not a big deal and seems like any other chaebol can hush those news with money, but... this is during succession battle... and... I am not S Korean :) I do not really understand
BUT then you miss the time to reflect ... you miss all the discussions... ppl see what you dont see.. and vice versa... and it takes time for a good drama to be digested. There are so many details you will miss if you watch too fast
And, I hope you have something meaningful in your life to spend time on so that dramas are just the icing on the cake, not the cake itself
The last post you did is the shortcut to cutting out all bs
Bye now, I am out of time to continue this discussion
The facts are:
1. Agent Kim got out of all that kind of stuff. He was a nasty double agent and he got out.
THAT is the point of the drama.
Also, I dont know how you look at it, but it is clear that he was a paid serial killer. He was not anyone "nice" or "honorable" by any means. He was a double agent.
***** Mr Kim ex-assassin is still pretty much a serial killer in his heart. Almost totally shut down as a person. He can cook breakfast but he cannot relate to his daughter. THAT is the topic of this drama *****
2. He choose to leave his paid serial killer past because of his daughter, not bc of his personal political beliefs. He had no political agenda of his own, he was just a PION in a big machine and he used the system to kill for money.
3. AGENT KIM WAS ESSENTIALLY A PAID ASSASSIN. HE KILLED FOR WHOEVER GAVE HIM MOST MONEY. HE WAS A SERIAL KILLER UNDER PRETENSE OF THE LAW.
He worked for N Korea, then S Korea, then as a double agent, then.... HE IS A PAID CRIMINAL. Essentially he was a paid serial killer who was allowed by the law to kill.
yeah the stark reality of all special forces anywhere... Some are naive enough to think they are doing it for their country - and sometimes they even might.... but more often than not... they dont :( bc their commanders are corrupt and act for the sake of money only........ and some know they are just having a good time and/or making money killing people.
Agent Kim was nasty and greedy - he was a double agent. HE HAD NO POLITICAL BELONGING. he changed sides and killed for the sake of money.
So really the drama is not about Agent Kim's political beliefs and affiliations - he was affiliated with anyone who paid him -
the drama is about his PAID SERIAL KILLER HISTORY and HOW THAT MADE HIM TOTALLY UNABLE TO RELATE TO PPL, INCLUDING HIS OWN DAUGHTER
He was a double agent, for whoever paid him. ***** So you can say - his past was to be a paid assassin. ******
So in some ways, when a paid criminal double agent like that is bombing Palestine, it is actually showing what is really happening, what kind of trash is bombing Palestine just bc someone is paying them.
SO LET US PUT THE END TO THE MIDDLE EAST DISCUSSION
and LET US FOCUS ON AGENT KIM CHARACTER ARC -
HE IS AN EX SERIAL KILLER PAID ASSASSIN, i.e someone totally cold and cruel. And he left all that to raise his daughter. NOW HE IS A FATHER,
AND HE STILL HAS NO ABILITY TO RELATE TO PPL, EVEN TO HIS DAUGHTER. Bc he has not changed much internally. *** THAT is the point of this drama. How he will change internally to catch up with his new life as a loving caring father. ***
The drama is really about rehabing special forces... Agent Kim was a paid serial killer... cold cruel shut down... so cruel he genocided Palestinians.... so THAT person now is supposed to be loving caring father and HE HAS NO CLUE. He has a vague idea that cooking breakfast has something to do with it, but he is CLUELESS, he does not know what love looks like and behaves like.
MR KIM **** SUCKS **** AT BEING A FATHER, and he is not even a good enough agent nor a human being to think about his daughter's needs and protection - well she is not paying him lmao so he is NEGLIGENT towards his daughter.
So now his daughter could lose her life bc he failed as a parent esp as a parent with sufficient skills to protect his daughter - e.g put a tracker on her phone, follow her to find out what really goes on in school, act as her bodyguard, .....
and most importantly TALK WITH HIS DAUGHTER, establish a rapport, and BE A GOOD LOVING CARING TEAM WITH HIS DAUGHTER
***** Mr Kim ex-assassin is still pretty much a serial killer in his heart. Almost totally shut down as a person. He can cook breakfast but he cannot relate to his daughter. THAT is the topic of this drama *****
He choose to leave that because of his daughter, not bc of his personal political beliefs. He had no political agenda of his own, he was just a PION in a big machine and he used the system to kill for money.
Essentially he was a serial killer who was allowed by the law to kill.
And he was nasty and greedy - he was a double agent. HE HAD NO POLITICAL BELONGING. He killed just for the sake of money.
So you can say - his past was to be a paid assassin.
So really it is not about his political beliefs but his CRIMINAL HISTORY
HE WAS A PAID ASSASSIN, FOR WHOEVER WOULD PAY HIM.
And he left all that to raise his daughter.
but surely S Korea is a lapdog of the USA
Well - who would dare piss off their biggest customer? :) Think business...