If the girl does it it’s problematic but if the boy does it it’s okay? The show expressed this…
You are not wrong - what Vee did was terrible also. Two wrongs do not make a right, that isn't how it works. I'm not defending his actions with what I'm about to say, I'm just going to explain another point of view.
Mark obviously knows about Vee cheating on Ploy and knows he shouldn't be acting the way that he does - he also knows that it isn't just about Ploy tho. As long as Vee was dating Ploy he wasn't "with" Mark - they could even just be fooling around, you don't need to revaluate your public/personal identity for fooling around. Its why he drags his feet ending their relationship.
When he finds out that she is cheating - that isn't something that can be put off, he can't drag his feet anymore, which means he will be "with" Mark, frfr. Vee is very much a man and all that means - his reaction to Ploy was as much about his hurt ego as it was hurt feelings with a little gay panic and a lot hypocrisy mixed in.
Mark already knows at this point that he has fallen for a stupid man and I don't think how Vee acts really surprises him that much - it absolutely didn't change how he feels about him tho. He knows Vee doesn't love Ploy and how public everything was going to end up being around campus, so he lets him throw his tantrum. He isn't condoning how Vee treats Ploy - he just doesn't really address it.
At the end of the day Mark does want to end up with Vee.
Have you read the novel? If yes then did the doc die in the novel too?:(((
You should maybe mark this a spoiler 😅
There is an alternate ending that was filmed tho - I sus it didn't end the way the show did, tho I will say I think the ending fits the character that does away with the Doc. Its not a bad ending of the show, despite being sad, its just very likely made that way so the gay "bros" don't have a happy ending.
This was bad. It was great at portraying two men that have a connection failing to make it anything more than that. At one point during a long awaited confession scene one of the characters said "it feels like a dream" and it truly did bc at that point I felt their relationship had already run its course. I don't why either of them would bother with it at that point.
Apparently none of that was in the manga. Perfect setup for a light, cute romcom... this should be example of what not to do in film school. I'm being a little harsh but its so clearly the director just trying to liven things up a bit bc they don't appreciate the source material enough to believe it has value on its own merit, despite it having readership enough to warrant an adaptation. Were I the writer, or a reader or anyone involved with the manga I would be quite upset, justifiably so.
Ok, no comment on your review of the show - it sounds like a miss and the 1/10 may be very well deserved. I do have something to say about the English comment tho.
English is the defacto Global Language - it is no longer the English only that can claim it, they made certain of that when they made certain their colonies could speak it. Americans went on to adopt it but obviously can't claim the language either - then went on to invent a bunch of stuff, that obviously only got English names and expand American corporations to the entire planet, insuring English is forever the language of money, stuff and things. It is spoke by people in every country and everywhere there are people learning it - this will only be more true in the future, assuming no WW3, but even then, prolly still the universal language
If you pay attention, there are things now in most every country that are always in English - "Police" is the easiest to pick up on. English is used to connect with everyone, all of us are expected to kno it - not just native English speakers
to me its so obvious GMMTV are now running out of stories and the writers are lazy. they are now going the route…
The Eighth Sense did feel very western and some of it does play on Korean culture but the mental health aspects of the show could fit into any culture. Honestly the Eighth Sense made me think a lot about how similar all of us are - I think that aspect of the story could be told in anywhere, it just wouldn't hit as hard set in Thailand bc the culture still has hope. Advanced western democracies are hopeless places - that sort of melancholy is what the Eighth Sense nailed. There is a discontent and unhappiness that is only revealed once we've attained a life good enough we can't complain.
I understand what your saying - I kno you've been around long enough to make assessments on what translates to Thai culture. There are cultural niches and Thai media has definitely created its own identity in the same way that Japan, Korea and China have all done so already - but its not a tonal thing.
I don't want to limit Thai media - even as much as I like Thai stuff the way it is, I think this is still very much an evolving genre.
Right now the shows that are being made are largely still just adaptations of successful written stories or manga with a few successful writers having huge influence - Mame for example. She tells the stories she wants to tell. Down the road there will be more stories from more points of view and that follow less of a formula than the ones we are getting used to now. When a Director and Cast more often want to make a show to tell the story itself, rather than to meet expectations to get international views, we'll have more stories that feel like the Eighth Sense.
Ok, I have not seen this episode and I've never seen Sea and Poon together - I don't even kno if they are the second BL couple or if there even is a second couple, I've just decided now that I'm officially a fan of SeaPoon bc that may be the best ship name ever
This show took me a little while to watch - I didn't binge it but that isn't bc it was bad. This show can be a little frustrating at times, the characters can be a little too realistic at times and a bit over dramatic. Many times tho this really did feel like watching a group of friends hang out and grow up a little together - even the messy parts reminded me of some different things that have happened in my own life, with my own friends (albeit with a lot less drama). Despite the overdramatic and hyperbolized situations that make this a drama there is a general sense of realism with Only Friends that isn't in every BL.
Perhaps the realism is why I grew more attached to the actors themselves - which is something I didn't even notice until Book showed up in My Boo and I was surprised how happy I was to see him. The acting was exceptional most of the time and all of these faces feel more familiar now and I already knew them all. Its like they all leveled up to me bc of this show. Its hard to explain.
This show also cemented my position that Mark Pakin is one of GMM's most valuable contracts.
I'm so excited to watch this. I can't believe our luck. We get to see daddy Ok Taec Yeon in a BL. Thank you God.
I couldn't agree with you more! I think we'll stay on the same page with this one 😉
I've wanted to see a travelling BL for a while but of course that costs more money, I've been kinda just waiting for BL to get big enough for stuff like that.
This feels a bit like Netflix saw the Heartstopper numbers and went "Oh, you all are like serious, serious - challenge accepted."
Shadow was really just a marketing gimmick, I did enjoy the show regardless but I do have trust issues 😅
That is a great photo of Mao and Ian - I love the rainbow. I think those two just kinda laughed at the censorship thing - they didn't need skinship with their talent and chemistry.
I just finished a rewatch of that last week, such a good show!
I think its a little rude to call a show a lot of people seem to enjoy childish, but you're fully entitled to…
I like that "Quality lies everywhere." - its like the opposite of what quality means but is a true statement. Even terrible creative failures have redeeming qualities - its very unlikely that everyone involved in a project did a bad job, somebody cares and is trying to make art. Obviously not everything is worth our time just bc an aspect of it is good - BL has taught me that, but we really can find quality everywhere, if we look. I've taken to saying, "I'm able to appreciate everything for what it is" to sum up my similar thoughts... I think I like yours better :)
Oh and just to be complicated - I also quite enjoyed Last Twilight and were I to compare it to Only Boo I think Last Twilight is more a masterpiece by far than Only Boo for so many reasons - I'm not sure its the kinda story a Director would consider their masterpiece even if it were the most popular of its niche. It was made to be the show that it is and its fantastic - just overall very well done.
I think I actually enjoyed Only Boo more than Last Twilight, despite Twilight being exactly the kind of story a Director could call their masterpiece and was exceptionally good, I'll rewatch OB first, I can already tell.
Comparing them really isn't fair to either of them.
I went to a website available in my country and I saw the hat/cap but omg it's so expensive like 34 euros (around…
So go! Thailand has really impressed me with how much they have embraced "Queer Tourism" I guess you'd call it. Many of these shows feature Thailand - just like their product placements, they want us to come visit.
Not only that - Thailand just announced a change to their visa laws and anyone with verifiable steady remote work or a bank account with at least 100,000 baht equivalent can apply for a 5 year visa!
Before it was only 30 days max for a normal visa - 3 months was about the max I saw before. That is is like they threw open the gates - knowing exactly who will come in, I think all of us could benefit from visiting such a culture for a while.
I get the doubts tho - recall Shadow? That is what Gaga said to, the network for gay stuff, that chose to split the show in half and pitch it as something that it wasn't. Singto and Fluke really were just queer bait. I would have watched their show anyway because I like them as people and I want to follow their careers. I didn't need to be tricked into watching it as a suspenseful drama.
Using those 2 specifically just felt really dirty to me tbh - someone should have got fired over that call. They chose to boost the ratings of a single show at the expense of their customer's trust and used some of our favorite actors to do it
Mark obviously knows about Vee cheating on Ploy and knows he shouldn't be acting the way that he does - he also knows that it isn't just about Ploy tho. As long as Vee was dating Ploy he wasn't "with" Mark - they could even just be fooling around, you don't need to revaluate your public/personal identity for fooling around. Its why he drags his feet ending their relationship.
When he finds out that she is cheating - that isn't something that can be put off, he can't drag his feet anymore, which means he will be "with" Mark, frfr. Vee is very much a man and all that means - his reaction to Ploy was as much about his hurt ego as it was hurt feelings with a little gay panic and a lot hypocrisy mixed in.
Mark already knows at this point that he has fallen for a stupid man and I don't think how Vee acts really surprises him that much - it absolutely didn't change how he feels about him tho. He knows Vee doesn't love Ploy and how public everything was going to end up being around campus, so he lets him throw his tantrum. He isn't condoning how Vee treats Ploy - he just doesn't really address it.
At the end of the day Mark does want to end up with Vee.
There is an alternate ending that was filmed tho - I sus it didn't end the way the show did, tho I will say I think the ending fits the character that does away with the Doc. Its not a bad ending of the show, despite being sad, its just very likely made that way so the gay "bros" don't have a happy ending.
Apparently none of that was in the manga. Perfect setup for a light, cute romcom... this should be example of what not to do in film school. I'm being a little harsh but its so clearly the director just trying to liven things up a bit bc they don't appreciate the source material enough to believe it has value on its own merit, despite it having readership enough to warrant an adaptation. Were I the writer, or a reader or anyone involved with the manga I would be quite upset, justifiably so.
English is the defacto Global Language - it is no longer the English only that can claim it, they made certain of that when they made certain their colonies could speak it. Americans went on to adopt it but obviously can't claim the language either - then went on to invent a bunch of stuff, that obviously only got English names and expand American corporations to the entire planet, insuring English is forever the language of money, stuff and things. It is spoke by people in every country and everywhere there are people learning it - this will only be more true in the future, assuming no WW3, but even then, prolly still the universal language
If you pay attention, there are things now in most every country that are always in English - "Police" is the easiest to pick up on. English is used to connect with everyone, all of us are expected to kno it - not just native English speakers
If you know nothing about this yet - that is perfect, you'll get the full effect I ran into.
I'm still processing and have no comments at this time.
I understand what your saying - I kno you've been around long enough to make assessments on what translates to Thai culture. There are cultural niches and Thai media has definitely created its own identity in the same way that Japan, Korea and China have all done so already - but its not a tonal thing.
I don't want to limit Thai media - even as much as I like Thai stuff the way it is, I think this is still very much an evolving genre.
Right now the shows that are being made are largely still just adaptations of successful written stories or manga with a few successful writers having huge influence - Mame for example. She tells the stories she wants to tell. Down the road there will be more stories from more points of view and that follow less of a formula than the ones we are getting used to now. When a Director and Cast more often want to make a show to tell the story itself, rather than to meet expectations to get international views, we'll have more stories that feel like the Eighth Sense.
I figured thats how they were going to do it - I'm just having fun with Sea's name 😅
Perhaps the realism is why I grew more attached to the actors themselves - which is something I didn't even notice until Book showed up in My Boo and I was surprised how happy I was to see him. The acting was exceptional most of the time and all of these faces feel more familiar now and I already knew them all. Its like they all leveled up to me bc of this show. Its hard to explain.
This show also cemented my position that Mark Pakin is one of GMM's most valuable contracts.
I've wanted to see a travelling BL for a while but of course that costs more money, I've been kinda just waiting for BL to get big enough for stuff like that.
This feels a bit like Netflix saw the Heartstopper numbers and went "Oh, you all are like serious, serious - challenge accepted."
Shadow was really just a marketing gimmick, I did enjoy the show regardless but I do have trust issues 😅
That is a great photo of Mao and Ian - I love the rainbow. I think those two just kinda laughed at the censorship thing - they didn't need skinship with their talent and chemistry.
I just finished a rewatch of that last week, such a good show!
I really like your profile pic btw
Oh and just to be complicated - I also quite enjoyed Last Twilight and were I to compare it to Only Boo I think Last Twilight is more a masterpiece by far than Only Boo for so many reasons - I'm not sure its the kinda story a Director would consider their masterpiece even if it were the most popular of its niche. It was made to be the show that it is and its fantastic - just overall very well done.
I think I actually enjoyed Only Boo more than Last Twilight, despite Twilight being exactly the kind of story a Director could call their masterpiece and was exceptionally good, I'll rewatch OB first, I can already tell.
Comparing them really isn't fair to either of them.
Quality lies everywhere 😁
Not only that - Thailand just announced a change to their visa laws and anyone with verifiable steady remote work or a bank account with at least 100,000 baht equivalent can apply for a 5 year visa!
Before it was only 30 days max for a normal visa - 3 months was about the max I saw before. That is is like they threw open the gates - knowing exactly who will come in, I think all of us could benefit from visiting such a culture for a while.
Using those 2 specifically just felt really dirty to me tbh - someone should have got fired over that call. They chose to boost the ratings of a single show at the expense of their customer's trust and used some of our favorite actors to do it