So hear you. What started out in the first episode as wonderful, has turned into an utter shit show of repetitive…
He actually deserves to lose them, because at this juncture, they're good for nothing!! Yeah, you can't ignore the stupidity of the last 4-episodes People who like this kind of narrative must have the patience of saints. Yes, thank goodness for its coming conclusion, but I've been seeing on social that it could be left open ended, because the Manga isn't yet finished, so looking like a S2! God forbid. Well, if it is, I know I won't be watching!
It's a shame because it started out so strong. I will say, however, that the problem is that the original manga…
Greetings. Yes, To My Star 2 was indeed a travesty.
Yes South Korea was truly amazing and have travelled quite extensively across Europe like you. I haven't actually turned on my Western television in 5-years. I just completely lost interest in its narcissistic, vacuous nature, driven mostly by the ugly nature of reality TV. My friends and family find me oh so weird, because nearly everything I watch is in subtitles and Asian, although I do from time to time turn to Europe and worldwide to watch iconic, classic, gay dramas and films when I find myself bored of the usual immature, university Asian BL tropes, like Call Me By Your Name. The Way He Looks. God's Own Country. Brokeback Mountain. Free Fall. Shelter. Young Royals. Heartstopper. Elite. New Heights and of course Queer As Folk.
Haha, I did chuckle at your comment on Takar-Kun and Amagi-Kun about the five erections a day - so hear you! Hilarious! Agree, he is extremely infantile and the blond is playing that "too cool for school" character you mentioned earlier that the Japanese seem to be loving at the moment. I'm interested to see what happens in the next episode and then will decide whether I continue or not.
About Youth, I'm also watching. I find this just cute and watchable, plus I like the way Xu Qi Zhang is actively pursuing and flirting with Ye Guang and he has absolutely no clue he's being subtly hunted. I find myself interested in the storyline behind the male character who was wearing a wig and is being pursued by the coffee shop owner. I'm confused by this character. I'm also liking Love In The Air, but more because its mature and I'm interested to see what MAME is going to throw at us. If I'm honest, I don't get or find myself interested in On Cloud Nine, so think I'll be dropping that one, but 180 Degrees Longitude has peeked my interest, simply because it's so unique in its delivery as a theatre production.
Haha! I discovered BL four years ago now and like you, I've watched every single one I believe is worthy of my time. However, I won't watch the shit ones just for the sake of it and I love our little community too.
So hear you. What started out in the first episode as wonderful, has turned into an utter shit show of repetitive…
🤣🤣🤣! Your comment did make me chuckle. For me, it's just such a shame how it turned out. The first episode was amazing - different, quirky, unique, almost a breath of fresh air, subsequent episodes were also good and then it just started to go dramatically downhill with the same narrative week after week after week. And how the writer and director chose to portray Minato's cowardly, childish character for 11 straight episodes defies belief.
It's a shame because it started out so strong. I will say, however, that the problem is that the original manga…
So spot on with Thai BL dramas. Couldn't have put it better myself. Although I did enjoy the originality of Not Me, everything you pointed out, together with the heavy political bias (not LGBTQ), I just found draining. I enter the world of Asian dramas for escapism from the real world. I don't enter into that world to be depressed or indeed sad, so at times, I did find it a hard slog.
Haeboom's wet dream in Cherry Blossoms was indeed lovely. But again, my brain says, why make it a wet dream and if you had a wet dream, there is absolutely no, no way you wouldn't make it reality once you lived together. That to me was the fundamental error in the writing of this story, and especially how much Jo Tae Sung openly desired and wanted him.
OMG! To My Star 2. I ranted week-after-week on this here platform about how disappointed I was with this drama. I too absolutely hated it. Series 1 rates in my all-time favourites, I adored it. Watched umpteen times my favourite clips. They utterly ruined it and yes, I couldn't believe it was the same director as Blueming and Where Your Eyes Linger. It astounded me how they ruined it. It just didn't make any sense whatsoever, and what concluded as a beautiful love story in S1, turned into too many episodes of ridiculous, pointless angst never to be proper discussed or understood. This was a true lesson in how to ruin a beautiful S2 follow-up for me.
Aw, now you're talking. I also adored both series of We Best Love - truly beautiful, and again both series I return to again and again. However, as much as I realise Taiwan don't put out a lot of BL, I hugely respect they believe quality over quantity, unlike the Thai's.
EP 11 of this Minato actually pissed me off so much, I Googled Japanese culture around homosexuality. Hahaha! I know right?! It's because my spirit is so positive, I was annoyed with myself that I was so frustrated that what started out in EP1 as a young man so courageous and confident, intent on having his man, turned into something so bad and utterly disappointing. Japanese culture has actually embraced homosexuality for centuries, a lot of Samurai's were homosexual, a lot of their earlier theatre performances had homosexual tones. They don't like it in their face as they see your private life as private and respect this - so no physical displays of affection in public, hey ho, whatever and have 100's of gay bars and clubs, hence why I continue to find myself astounded by these dramas. Whereas in South Korea, where I spent a month in 2019 travelling, you really don't see it. They say they're accepting, but my instinct told me otherwise.
I'll never fetishise gay people. However, the minimum I expect is for them to be treated absolutely the same way as heterosexuals. Like you say, hetro's in a relationship it's natural to see them kiss and be intimate. Why not a gay couples? Pisses me royally off. All I'm asking from a writer and director is to experience and witness a real life gay couple, while visualising an end to prejudice towards gay love.
Oh, by the way are you watching 180 Degrees Longitude Passes Through Us - bet you are?! Haha. Be interested to hear your thoughts.
Lovely to speak with someone who has such insights that mirror my own thought process, irrespective of whether we agree on everything. And, thank you too 😁
Damn, I'm going to miss this drama and for all the wrong reasons. If only they'd written it as a comedy, it would be smashing it in the awards. My Wednesday evenings are never going to be the same cringe worthy levels of laughter without you. #Sigh
Oh, I think you'll love this for those who saved themselves from reading the travesty which was the book. It was actually Whipped Cream and Clemo (the tigers), who went with Kamol and the worst bodyguards you could ever imagine to save Kim and Danil. You couldn't make this shit up!! Yes, that happened. For those shipping Khom and Baboon, Baboon was 15 in the book and an extremely immature 15. However, Kamol and Kim could see they'd be together in the future.
My highlights from EP 12...
1) Best Line to make no utter sense whatsoever: Kim: "Is that why you shot me and The Baboon?" (Don't forget I renamed him in homage to Whipped Cream and Salmon in an earlier episode). Cherry: "No! That wasn't me, I didn't shoot. Danai made me." Hmmm... we'll just park that one! 2) Like I said in EP 11, Cherry's fam really should have taken shooting lessons if planning on working in the underworld. Danai was at point blank range on Kamol's back but Kim ends up getting hit in the head. Makes total sense. NOT! 3) Khom actually acted like a bodyguard, killing a human for the first time in 12 episodes. 4). Um! Let's discuss the elephant in the room. Excuse me, wasn't this supposed to be a BDSM? Just like the lack of sunset scene in EP 11, would recommend the writer and director look up both as an educational piece. #JustSayin 5) EP 12. No shit BDSM scene to conclude (thankfully) and the kissing scene, well, I've kissed my teddy bear more passionately than that when I was practising in my teens. 6) The opening shot 2-months later in Kamol's office with Kim: Was that called the dance of love as Kamol span Kim around? Obviously trying to make him dizzy with love in readiness for the proposal which never took place. 7) Kamol: "About our marriage." What, did I miss something, when did he officially propose? 8) Kim, you naughty, naughty submissive with the handcuffs, are you planning on being a Dom? I doubt it somehow!!
It's a shame because it started out so strong. I will say, however, that the problem is that the original manga…
OMG! You sound like my sister from another mother! Are you in my brain? Exactly that on Mr. Unlucky Has No Choice But to Kiss. WTAF was that title with no kiss which actually ended up annoying me more because of the title.
I've just started to think and purely because of what they continue to deliver most recently, that Japanese writers and directors want to cash in on the huge trend which is BLs. They can see it captivates audiences around the world and want a part of the lucrative revenue stream. However, what they're displaying to me with these dreadful dramas is that they actually don't buy into gay love or indeed have knowledge or respect for true gay love.
You're so spot on with that arrogant swagger, zany male lead thing. Both men were indeed beautiful in their own ways, but does that sell to the majority of their audience with an utter and complete shit script? I really hope not. Definitely doesn't for me, but I soon realised I'm not their high school target audience.
Haha. Yes, I'm watching Takara Kun and Amagi Kun and am desperately trying to keep an open mind on this one, (it's hard) simply because both leads have identified very early on that they're sexually attracted to each other. One wants sex and one is thinking about sex. Which at the moment is peeking my interest as to where it will go.
Blueming and Semantic Error I've probably re-watched at least 6-times. I absolutely adore those dramas. Stunning story telling, unbelievable chemistry between main leads. However, I really enjoyed at first Cherry Blossoms After Winter, but once again, the ML yearned for him for years, by the time they got together, lived together and slept in the same bed together night after night, their was absolutely no intimacy shown. Which again pissed me off! Too unbelievable for my brain.
Those last four K-dramas you mention, excluding Kissable Lips which I watched until the end but admit didn't enjoy, I dropped after one episode.
Thai, really are in a world all unto their own. However, I think Taiwan deliver some awesome BL dramas and especially their History series.
What are we like - have had a proper full on rant! Funny! Love it!
It's a shame because it started out so strong. I will say, however, that the problem is that the original manga…
My beautiful man was really lovely and thank you for letting me know it was adapted from a novel - really interesting! Up until the last succession of dreadful J-BLs, I'm talking in particular, Mr Unlucky, My Love Mix Up and Senpai, I truly believed that no other country can think, write and bring that "what the fuck" quirky spirit to the screen like the Japanese. They really are unique when it comes to their oh so quirky thought process on life. However, I just don't understand what's happening recently. As to Old Fashion Cupcake, I said exactly the very same thing in my comments on MDL, they really should have kissed in the alleyway - that just ruined it for me, as there was no justification not to.
It's a shame because it started out so strong. I will say, however, that the problem is that the original manga…
I so hear you and really appreciate your comments in regards to it following the manga. I just don't think this type of storyline realistically translates to a drama, after all, a comic is a comic for a reason and specifically has a younger audience. This is probably why I enjoyed Old Fashioned Cupcake, The Pornographer, The Novelist, even My Beautiful Man and am truly despising this latest crop of J-BLs, but thanks again.
EP 11 and yet another hugely disappointing, childish, frustrating J-drama due to come to its end in one more episode and we continue to see an ADULT male lead deliver the same lines week-after-week with absolutely no character development or signs of maturity.
Minato's character and the way the writer and director have portrayed him just annoys me beyond belief. It is just totally unbelievable. Yes, I've been hearing from you every bloody week that Shin is a high schooler, yes, I hear from you every bloody week that you respect how Shin is able to be true and honest with his feelings. However, what about you? Seriously, 11 bloody episodes of your pathetic, cowardly personality. Enough already. You're a man whose nearly 30, grow the fuck up!!
I just wish the writer had been brave enough and had the balls to allow Shin to drop his sorry, cowardly ass earlier, because quite frankly 11-episodes of the same old same old every week, does not make for a good or memorable drama, as absolutely ZERO character development from Minato. And no, I won't be re-watching and it will be lucky if I rate it a 3 - and that will only be for the earlier episodes which teased something different and unique, but for me, sadly didn't deliver.
I dont think it's asian dramas really. It's based on reality. Yes, her getting punishment would've been ideal,…
Why should we degrade an utterly brilliant series based on the actions of what happened behind the scenes? I adored the way Apo and Mile dealt with the situation head on. Respect.
We're not accepting it. We see it. The world sees it. As is everything in life, it will take time, but time will bring change.
Like I said, I'm here for escapism. I'm here to escape reality. I'm not here to judge the world. Ultimately, I'm here to have a bloody good laugh and fun with hopefully, similar humans who think like me.
I dont think it's asian dramas really. It's based on reality. Yes, her getting punishment would've been ideal,…
From what I'm seeing they haven't learnt their lesson because money and power talk tenfold.
Yes, they'll be a S2 because it was awesome and worthy of a 2nd season. Fact. After all, as viewers, I think we should only be judging it based on the quality of what we're viewing and not the politics.
Look at what's happening with Cutie Pie. Honestly, I find this an absolute travesty. We're meant to believe Zee and NuNew are a couple. WTAF. They're not. Now this, I find destructive and so detrimental to their careers. It's all about the money. The whole fanship thing I'll honestly say I find disgusting.
I dont think it's asian dramas really. It's based on reality. Yes, her getting punishment would've been ideal,…
Let's not talk about Western culture, do you know why? Because I watch Asian dramas for escapism from the real world. I adore the fact it's not real. Weinstein. Jeffrey Epstein. Trump. Bill Clinton. Prince Andrew are all real. Everything you say is fact. But I'm not here for that. I'm here to escape from the real world and all of that. I get all this shit daily in my social media feed. I come here for respite away from this.
I dont think it's asian dramas really. It's based on reality. Yes, her getting punishment would've been ideal,…
I hear you and you have a point, it's all about the money. However, they think we don't see it but we do. I've also seen the KinnPorsche videos across social media. Love the fact the actors took them to task and oh so professionally.
Yes South Korea was truly amazing and have travelled quite extensively across Europe like you. I haven't actually turned on my Western television in 5-years. I just completely lost interest in its narcissistic, vacuous nature, driven mostly by the ugly nature of reality TV. My friends and family find me oh so weird, because nearly everything I watch is in subtitles and Asian, although I do from time to time turn to Europe and worldwide to watch iconic, classic, gay dramas and films when I find myself bored of the usual immature, university Asian BL tropes, like Call Me By Your Name. The Way He Looks. God's Own Country. Brokeback Mountain. Free Fall. Shelter. Young Royals. Heartstopper. Elite. New Heights and of course Queer As Folk.
Haha, I did chuckle at your comment on Takar-Kun and Amagi-Kun about the five erections a day - so hear you! Hilarious! Agree, he is extremely infantile and the blond is playing that "too cool for school" character you mentioned earlier that the Japanese seem to be loving at the moment. I'm interested to see what happens in the next episode and then will decide whether I continue or not.
About Youth, I'm also watching. I find this just cute and watchable, plus I like the way Xu Qi Zhang is actively pursuing and flirting with Ye Guang and he has absolutely no clue he's being subtly hunted. I find myself interested in the storyline behind the male character who was wearing a wig and is being pursued by the coffee shop owner. I'm confused by this character. I'm also liking Love In The Air, but more because its mature and I'm interested to see what MAME is going to throw at us. If I'm honest, I don't get or find myself interested in On Cloud Nine, so think I'll be dropping that one, but 180 Degrees Longitude has peeked my interest, simply because it's so unique in its delivery as a theatre production.
Haha! I discovered BL four years ago now and like you, I've watched every single one I believe is worthy of my time. However, I won't watch the shit ones just for the sake of it and I love our little community too.
Haeboom's wet dream in Cherry Blossoms was indeed lovely. But again, my brain says, why make it a wet dream and if you had a wet dream, there is absolutely no, no way you wouldn't make it reality once you lived together. That to me was the fundamental error in the writing of this story, and especially how much Jo Tae Sung openly desired and wanted him.
OMG! To My Star 2. I ranted week-after-week on this here platform about how disappointed I was with this drama. I too absolutely hated it. Series 1 rates in my all-time favourites, I adored it. Watched umpteen times my favourite clips. They utterly ruined it and yes, I couldn't believe it was the same director as Blueming and Where Your Eyes Linger. It astounded me how they ruined it. It just didn't make any sense whatsoever, and what concluded as a beautiful love story in S1, turned into too many episodes of ridiculous, pointless angst never to be proper discussed or understood. This was a true lesson in how to ruin a beautiful S2 follow-up for me.
Aw, now you're talking. I also adored both series of We Best Love - truly beautiful, and again both series I return to again and again. However, as much as I realise Taiwan don't put out a lot of BL, I hugely respect they believe quality over quantity, unlike the Thai's.
EP 11 of this Minato actually pissed me off so much, I Googled Japanese culture around homosexuality. Hahaha! I know right?! It's because my spirit is so positive, I was annoyed with myself that I was so frustrated that what started out in EP1 as a young man so courageous and confident, intent on having his man, turned into something so bad and utterly disappointing. Japanese culture has actually embraced homosexuality for centuries, a lot of Samurai's were homosexual, a lot of their earlier theatre performances had homosexual tones. They don't like it in their face as they see your private life as private and respect this - so no physical displays of affection in public, hey ho, whatever and have 100's of gay bars and clubs, hence why I continue to find myself astounded by these dramas. Whereas in South Korea, where I spent a month in 2019 travelling, you really don't see it. They say they're accepting, but my instinct told me otherwise.
I'll never fetishise gay people. However, the minimum I expect is for them to be treated absolutely the same way as heterosexuals. Like you say, hetro's in a relationship it's natural to see them kiss and be intimate. Why not a gay couples? Pisses me royally off. All I'm asking from a writer and director is to experience and witness a real life gay couple, while visualising an end to prejudice towards gay love.
Oh, by the way are you watching 180 Degrees Longitude Passes Through Us - bet you are?! Haha. Be interested to hear your thoughts.
Lovely to speak with someone who has such insights that mirror my own thought process, irrespective of whether we agree on everything. And, thank you too 😁
Oh, I think you'll love this for those who saved themselves from reading the travesty which was the book. It was actually Whipped Cream and Clemo (the tigers), who went with Kamol and the worst bodyguards you could ever imagine to save Kim and Danil. You couldn't make this shit up!! Yes, that happened. For those shipping Khom and Baboon, Baboon was 15 in the book and an extremely immature 15. However, Kamol and Kim could see they'd be together in the future.
My highlights from EP 12...
1) Best Line to make no utter sense whatsoever: Kim: "Is that why you shot me and The Baboon?" (Don't forget I renamed him in homage to Whipped Cream and Salmon in an earlier episode). Cherry: "No! That wasn't me, I didn't shoot. Danai made me." Hmmm... we'll just park that one!
2) Like I said in EP 11, Cherry's fam really should have taken shooting lessons if planning on working in the underworld. Danai was at point blank range on Kamol's back but Kim ends up getting hit in the head. Makes total sense. NOT!
3) Khom actually acted like a bodyguard, killing a human for the first time in 12 episodes.
4). Um! Let's discuss the elephant in the room. Excuse me, wasn't this supposed to be a BDSM? Just like the lack of sunset scene in EP 11, would recommend the writer and director look up both as an educational piece. #JustSayin
5) EP 12. No shit BDSM scene to conclude (thankfully) and the kissing scene, well, I've kissed my teddy bear more passionately than that when I was practising in my teens.
6) The opening shot 2-months later in Kamol's office with Kim: Was that called the dance of love as Kamol span Kim around? Obviously trying to make him dizzy with love in readiness for the proposal which never took place.
7) Kamol: "About our marriage." What, did I miss something, when did he officially propose?
8) Kim, you naughty, naughty submissive with the handcuffs, are you planning on being a Dom? I doubt it somehow!!
Its been a blast. Thank you 😍
I've just started to think and purely because of what they continue to deliver most recently, that Japanese writers and directors want to cash in on the huge trend which is BLs. They can see it captivates audiences around the world and want a part of the lucrative revenue stream. However, what they're displaying to me with these dreadful dramas is that they actually don't buy into gay love or indeed have knowledge or respect for true gay love.
You're so spot on with that arrogant swagger, zany male lead thing. Both men were indeed beautiful in their own ways, but does that sell to the majority of their audience with an utter and complete shit script? I really hope not. Definitely doesn't for me, but I soon realised I'm not their high school target audience.
Haha. Yes, I'm watching Takara Kun and Amagi Kun and am desperately trying to keep an open mind on this one, (it's hard) simply because both leads have identified very early on that they're sexually attracted to each other. One wants sex and one is thinking about sex. Which at the moment is peeking my interest as to where it will go.
Blueming and Semantic Error I've probably re-watched at least 6-times. I absolutely adore those dramas. Stunning story telling, unbelievable chemistry between main leads. However, I really enjoyed at first Cherry Blossoms After Winter, but once again, the ML yearned for him for years, by the time they got together, lived together and slept in the same bed together night after night, their was absolutely no intimacy shown. Which again pissed me off! Too unbelievable for my brain.
Those last four K-dramas you mention, excluding Kissable Lips which I watched until the end but admit didn't enjoy, I dropped after one episode.
Thai, really are in a world all unto their own. However, I think Taiwan deliver some awesome BL dramas and especially their History series.
What are we like - have had a proper full on rant! Funny! Love it!
Minato's character and the way the writer and director have portrayed him just annoys me beyond belief. It is just totally unbelievable. Yes, I've been hearing from you every bloody week that Shin is a high schooler, yes, I hear from you every bloody week that you respect how Shin is able to be true and honest with his feelings. However, what about you? Seriously, 11 bloody episodes of your pathetic, cowardly personality. Enough already. You're a man whose nearly 30, grow the fuck up!!
I just wish the writer had been brave enough and had the balls to allow Shin to drop his sorry, cowardly ass earlier, because quite frankly 11-episodes of the same old same old every week, does not make for a good or memorable drama, as absolutely ZERO character development from Minato. And no, I won't be re-watching and it will be lucky if I rate it a 3 - and that will only be for the earlier episodes which teased something different and unique, but for me, sadly didn't deliver.
We're not accepting it. We see it. The world sees it. As is everything in life, it will take time, but time will bring change.
Like I said, I'm here for escapism. I'm here to escape reality. I'm not here to judge the world. Ultimately, I'm here to have a bloody good laugh and fun with hopefully, similar humans who think like me.
Yes, they'll be a S2 because it was awesome and worthy of a 2nd season. Fact. After all, as viewers, I think we should only be judging it based on the quality of what we're viewing and not the politics.
Look at what's happening with Cutie Pie. Honestly, I find this an absolute travesty. We're meant to believe Zee and NuNew are a couple. WTAF. They're not. Now this, I find destructive and so detrimental to their careers. It's all about the money. The whole fanship thing I'll honestly say I find disgusting.