Kannadin

It's definitely caveman mentality. But caveman mentality can be a kink people enjoy when DONE WELL. I mean how many overly possessive and obsessed, stalkish type of male leads are there in heterosexual romances?
Everybody knows it's wrong, but when it's well written, even if you know the ML is a red flag you would NEVER go out with IRL, we're still rooting for the couple. It's fiction, so anything goes if you know how to sell it.

BUT in BLs, the tolerance for BS writing is pretty high. I mean as much as I love Kinnporsche. one character ended up with his rapist. That part was better handled in the show... still wrong and I haven't read the novel yet but Kinn is basically way worse from what I've read. I've leafed through some scenes in volume 1 and well, let's just say that there's some lines Kinn crossed that just makes it impossible for me to root for them even accepting from the get go that this is not gonna be an acceptable relationship.

However MAME's writing is so terrible, she doesn't know how to "sell toxicity" right. He's "just stalking", no rape, no acting on anything. So pretty tame in the red flag department, yet the writing just...

I'm with Marmashmallow though.
Only watching another MAME drama if it's BossNoeul ( BUT JUST PLEASE NO), any other pair and it's a definite NO ( unless it's OffGun but that's never gonna happen hopefuly).

Lot not watching it... And was not planning to watch it either...
BUT now that I've seen your comment... I'm really curious about how cringe that one is ^^

It's rare that I end up finishing a show just for the actors.

I mean it's not the summum of mediocrity (I've seen way worse by MAME let's be clear) but the dialogues and interactions feel like it's been written by a 13 years-old girl who never had any relationship... which would be okay if this show was intended for 13 year-olds. The two female friends of Phu just piss me off. They don't behave like normal friends, they're behaving like annoying mothers and their whole existence in this show is to highlight "Phu"s fragility" to appeal to the "protective seme" aspect of Cir. Apart from worrying about Phu they have NO personality whatsoever. Even that idiot Achi is more grounded. He at least sleeps around which means his life doesn't revolve around Phu which is what a normal character should feel like. These two though just... Every time they open their mouths I'm like "please get a life" . And I'm NOT gonna talk about the fiancée and the mother. I WON'T.

This being said this show highlights the "beauty of fiction".

- Oh my GOD! I just discovered the guy I'm going out with has been stalking me since highschool! What to do?

1. WTF? Gimme the creeps... Thank God, I discovered the truth in time. Gotta change my identity and move abroad, that dude needs serious therapy.

2. No way! I didn't know he loved me THAT MUCH. I'll probably never meet anyone who loves me like he does. It's cute how he stalked me for the past 4 years because he was too shy to talk to me. It makes me love him even more.... But he lied so for the sake of drama, dramatic reconciliation, cheesy declarations of love under the sunset and some NC boungabounga scenes (hopefully), let's separate for... one episode. ==> MAME answer.

Current personal ratings 7.5.

I'd say objectively, that I'd give that type of show a 3.5 usually. It's complete nonsense at this point and the writing which wasn't good in the first place has been going down the drain since we passed the middle point of this show.

Yet strangely I cannot dislike it even if I've raised my eyebrows so high so many times that they're literally stuck to my hairline.

"Prêt à manger" is a French expression meaning "Ready to eat" so I immediately checked your profile to see if you were French and I was living under a rock since I never saw that Quizno brand anywhere... But nope. I did watch a couple of episodes of Beautiful Gongshim and also Jealousy Incarnate in its entirety but I really mustn't have paid attention because I didn't notice. But I never heard of "Prêt à manger" here either so there's that.

We don't have lots of product placements if any in France as well... But unlike England, most of our series suck. I mean they SUCK real bad apart from those that have been financed by Netflix and the rest (according to people, personally I've completely given up almost 30 years ago so I can't really say.

Anyway financement here comes from a system which name I forgot which consist of channels/streaming websites etc. having to invest part of their earnings into French series/movies. If you go to the cinema in France, part of your ticket price also serves as a source of financement for French cultural production. I don't really know much about the system in place but basically, it's a "give-give" type of system.

This being said I did go to England... 20 years ago ( my God, time really does fly when you're past 18 years old) ANYWAY. I tried watching a 1 hour and a half movie there.

FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I've NEVER in MY LIFE seen as much adverts in such a short amount of time. there was literally ad-breaks every freakin' 15 minutes. GEEZ. Movie started around 9 pm Don't remember the exact time... But by 11:30 it still hadn't finished.
I ended up going to sleep. At that time I really wondered why people weren't rioting in the street because just, NO WAY.

But again, it was a different time. Internet was just starting to get used, streaming didn't exist and downloading a 20minutes anime in the "highest quality" ( which was 720p at the time) with a size of around 150 to 200 Mo took between 20 to 30 minutes for the fastest connexions.

So people would just bear with it I guess.

In France lots of ads as well but for a 2 hours movie, you wouldn't be able to have more than a single ad break of around 10 minutes.
I don't know if that has changed since I gave up on TV entirely for more than 20 years now ( what's the point when you've got Youtube - with adblockers of course - streaming websites, BOOKS and Video games? Seriously the appeal is lost on me) but I doubt we'll ever reach what I witnessed in England, which is a crime against viewers as far as I'm concerned.

7 minutes in Ep 9 and I'm dead and deceased by the CRINGE. WTF with those lines!!!! GEEEEEEZUS!
I'm outta here. Be watching the rest of the episode tomorrow. Feeling too cold due to too much goosebumps.

For the above point I honestly don't know...
For the heart fluttering though, it has been mentioned in another comment but you have to remember that she first met him when he was "posing as an adult" , dude is also not acting like a proper teenager either so I find it personally normal her brain can't compute at present and she has the reaction she should have which is to try to put back some proper boundaries although she fails at it because viewers need their romance and so romance is served ^^

'it irks me when I see people who are around these types who know these persons are bad for them but still stick to them because they literally have no self-esteem.'

She knows... The problem is not that she doesn't know... The problem is that she brushes it away because compared to all the others Ye Na is "nice" so she still sees her as "a friend" when in fact she isn't. However from a personal perspective, Yu Jeong got into the student's council thanks to Ye Na and I guess better have "a friend" who treats you like a maid than be like Dong Min, a loner who was bullied (if it wasn't for Hae Song he's still be at the bottom of the students' hierarchy scale).

That's where the issue lies. But I agree she probably doesn't want Hae Song to tell her parents she's basically treated like dirt.

Very simple. If a user blocks you, you can no longer see that user's posts which includes all the answers you might have written to said user directly ( by clicky "Reply" on their posts). You can also no longer access the page of the user in question hence if you didn't pay attention to the nickname of the person who discussed with you, you have no way of checking their names UNLESS you open the MDL page not being connected to your account and find the original post where you discussed.

You obviously can't prove to others that person blocked you unless that person openly admits it.

Just came here by morbid curiosity to see how low the ratings got to... and saw that although the show has ended last week the comment section is still pretty toxic. Sad.

And no. Was on fence about watching or not, decided I wouldn't bother after 3 weeks, and have no curiosity whatsoever. Too many good shows available to waste time on something people have overwhelmingly disliked.

Haven't seen that show ^^that's why ^^

True I forgot there were family dramas... Family dramas does have a lot of those... The real question is Where is Subway?

Yeah I just forgot the "not" in my previous post. I edited it.

There's romance. It's a the heart of the story... But it's a lot of looks for afar for valid reasons. Also I'm not a big melo fan myself but there's some thriller element in it so I really enjoyed it if that can help.

Makes me want to rewatch it again.

I really hope Yu Jeong realizes that Ye Na is not seeing her as a friend. This girl looks down on her and she uses Yu Jeong to feel good about herself as a charity case. If Yu Jeong ever gets the best grade, you can be sure she's gonna show her true colors. Hae Seong is not responsible for that shitty behavior of hers. The bag thing is just another example of how bad a "friend" she is but it's been shown since the first episode that Ye Na is not looking at Yu Jeong like an equal and treating her as such.

Of course that could be me seeing the bad in everything but I've seen that type of "friends" literally everywhere from primary to middle to high school it irks me when I see people who are around these types who know these persons are bad for them but still stick to them because they literally have no self-esteem.

I totally get you. BUT! You have to remember that she actually first got attracted to him when he was "posing" as an adult. Her brain probably can't reconcile with that first impression because if she truly saw him as a 17 years old... she would not feel ANY attraction. Also he's not acting like a 17 years old either so that doesn't help.

17 years olds are idiots particularly when you're past your 30s. Seriously when I see 30 ish people going out with kids who just got the "adult pass" on their ID, I'm like, yeah might be legal but seriously wtf?

Might feel strange but in South Korea, the homeroom teacher's job goes farther than just teaching in class. Hae Seong is supposed to live alone so of course she would check on him as a guardian.

So I initially thought that "Quiznos" was some form of made-up brand for the show because NO WAY a real company is going for such big advertisement in literally the whole show right? Usually it's just a couple of scenes where the characters are eating but here it's literally the headquarters ( which is ri-di-cu-lous but also the best PPL ever). BUT I ended up checking... No way it exists. To showcase a brand that much in a single drama would have cost a LOT even Subway didn't do it.

Turns out it does! Geez! Never heard of it!

Good job though! Any sandwich is good when toasted. I personally really enjoy "paninis". It's a kind of sandwich with some italian bread (hence the name) that is toasted. Always found it sad there was not more bread when it's toasted ( 'cuz it becomes real flat) but turns out Quiznos has made their bread thicker.

Thank you (NOT) for the cravings... BUT fortunately, this food chain doesn't exist in my country so here! I'm saved esp. since these sandwiches are not light in the calorie department.

On a side note, episode 4 was PER-FECT from start to finish. I've rewatched the dance I don't know how many times. How could they make me suffer from second hand-embarassement SO BAD but at the same time make me find the whole thing so freakin' cool is beyond me.

Of course it does. Come on' they're literally both on the poster... But don't expect lots of it though... at least for the first 4episodes. It's mostly comedy so far. Probably gonna get more once the teacher knows the ML is NOT a high school student but it's not the main genre.

Maybe... But I doubt it. Otherwise K channels would produce more thrillers and less rom-coms. Channels wants to make money after all. There are always thrillers that stand out but the overall audience is basically won by romance or if you want to include thrillers... Romantic thrillers. You could argue that in terms of quality, thrillers tend to be better... But it doesn't change the amount of viewers you get which is globally less. Sageuks... Used to get lots of audience in the early 2000s and South Korea used to produce a LOT of them... But that has changed, it doesn't bring as much audience as before. Fusion sageuks fare better though... but they qualify more as "Fantasy" than real sageuk and are usually... (Fictional) Historical Romance.

You see that phenomena everywhere. In literature, a chick lit or a romantasy is never going to get you this high profile literature price... But most readers are women and at the end of the day Romance sells best... Recently watched a youtube video from an editor on the subject and it was really interesting but the bottom line was: when it comes to literature (not talking about comics), doesn't matter the country, it's Romance that's bringing you big money.

This being said, even if it wasn't the case, it doesn't change the point of my first post.

Well I don't think airing a rom com when the other two shows are in different genres ( one is more a highschool action comedy, the other a thriller with romance in both but not as the main genre - from I've seen of Buried Heart, not watching the show yet so not entirely sure) is a bad idea per say... Viewers have different genres available so that's great if you're in the mood for one particular genre...The main issue I see with their lineup is:

1. Potato Lab should have started last week.

2. Don't air two rom coms back to back. So either they finish My Dearest Nemesis, and start this one. Or vice versa. It's basically the same genre, 4 days in a row from the same channel >_< AFTER another romance.

I mean yeah romance tend to fare better compared to thrillers But come on', if you don't vary your genres your audience is going to get bored. MBC and SBS made the right call:
SBS aired a romantic comedy followed by a thriller, MBC aired a Romance Melo followed by an Action Comedy... But What did tvN do?

Love Your Enemy : Romantic Comedy
When the Star Gossip: Romantic Comedy
Potato Lab : Romantic Comedy.

Are they serious?

I pity tvN and the cast. They had this major flop with "When the Stars Gossip" and now they're launching this show... except Undercover Highschool and Buried Heart both started last week so people whose time is limited have already started one of the two or both...
Finding time for a third one... When tvN is already airing a rom-com on Monday and Tuesday that is entering its third week? Nah. Not gonna work.

I don't think this show is gonna do well... Even if it's good.
Though I'm going to lurk here to see what people think of it before giving it some of my time... More excited about "My Dearest Nemesis" but I'm unfortunately really running out of time to watch dramas this month.

Also dunno what's happening to Netflix for the past 6 months+ but literally most of the most successful shows have gone to Viki. Not complaining though. I don't have a Netflix subscription.