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So... I thought he had recognized her from the poster but nope. When (I'm sure) he realized she was a girl at the end of episode 4, I thought he had connected the dots with the poster... but plot wise it also didn't make sense.

Turns out it he probably unconsciously recognized the girl from the poster but didn't consciously realize she was the one.

Or I'm an idiot and as people have mentioned he's recognized she's a girl from day one at the inn when he saw the key. I just don't believe he still doesn't know. It's Joseon, he's in classic denial phase regarding his feelings but there has been NO identity crisis and that would have never (not) happened if he didn't know she was a girl.

Jun Hwa's dad turns out to be quite the villain. I wasn't thinking too much about him apart from him being a shrewd business but he actually doesn't care about people at all... Poor Jun Hwa.... I hope his father's pressure doesn't push him on the dark path.

On a lighter note, episode 9 promises some jealousy hijinks and I can't wait ^^. I also think based on the preview that Sura and Jun Hwa are going to realize Eun Ho also knows she's a girl. She's the only clueless one who's not aware that her cover has been completely blown up.

Not really... It's the classic fan service you get in every romance drama, there's always some useless (-ly necessary ^^) shirtless scenes with at least the ML. This drama just happens to have a better pretext for showing MORE bare-chested leads.

Do you have an idea of the number of people who are doing this?

MY GOD! What happened to the ratings? I haven't watched episode 2 yet but wow, that's one hell of a drop in what? Less than 24 hours? I thought episode 1 was pretty good with a very nice atmosphere in spite of how serious the story was so far so what the hell?

Well I don't care for ratings unless the show has ended at least 6 months before so that's cool but err. WTF?

EDIT: Ok. I saw another comment mentioning some individuals, who are clearly bored and slightly deranged, rated episodes not yet aired. The usual. Poor 'Check in Hanyang' suffered the same fate and has not yet recovered.

Hopefully this 'trend' is gonna make people understand that ratings on this website should never be taken seriously unless it falls under 7. It's just an indication.

I'm more curious about what exactly is going on in these people's heads. Do they think it's gonna have ANY effect on people? The more I see these fake accounts with fake ratings, the less I care about ratings and just ask directly in comment sections what people thought instead of looking at ratings that have no value. Complete waste of time.

EDIT: I don't rate shows I haven't finished nor which episodes I haven't all seen... So I don't engage in ratings wars. Don't see the point. That also includes the long list of shows I dropped because I thought they suck. Since I didn't give these shows a chance to redeem themselves in later episodes, I don't rate them.

So true!

I personally think he didn't know at the river, he probably had doubts but it got confirmed after he saw the poster + Deok Su dressed as a girl...
It would be great if that was made clear next week so we can get some lovey dovey moments before everything goes to sh** because you bet they're gonna turn up the drama for the last 4 episodes.

Alas yes... I've got 15 mn left in episode 8 and I've already spoiled myself the preview.... which is all very happy go lucky but no doubt something is going to happen to the gambling house as soon as it is launched given Myeon Ho's snickering.

I HATE THEM.

Also I don't understand why the department masters know how Myeong Ho and his cronies are just trying to ruin the quartet repeatedly and no disciplinary action has ever been taken against them. Joseon Malfoy indeed...

I say OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!

40mn into episode 8 and is the drama really hinting at Jun Hwa's dad AND Eun Ho's dad plotting TOGETHER to put Eun Ho's dad on the throne? None of them deserve to be where they are. The sick prince should be the crown prince period...

But then maybe they're gonna reveal the sick prince stole the sword who knows?

I get you but I think it lies more with South Korean society as a whole.
Whey they revealed Su Hyeon was just the aunt and not the mother I was disapointed. I think South Korea has an issue with single moms. I've seen dramas with singles mums getting with single dads, singles dads getting with single women but NEVER a single mum getting with a single man.

Also, the thing is, even if you're 'just divorced' without children, you're already considered 'damaged goods' by Korean standards and it's extremely difficult to get married again especially if you're a woman UNLESS the person you're marrying is also a childless divorced person.

I wasn't shocked by the mother's comment at all, this is South Korea, the fact that her daughter is raising the child instead of the grandmother means that Su Hyeon has literally doomed her marriage prospect. She would have preferred to raise her grandson, it wouldn't have been bad for him, but her daughter insisted on taking him in and she probably blames herself for it. It's sad but that's South Korea.

I don't think the drama is mean spiritted. It's just reflecting South Korean society. There's prejudices and it's shown not in order to send a message, simply to reflect what is happening。 Viewers can make their own opinion about what is normal or not, what is fair or unfair, what should change or not.

Anyway, I don't think this drama is trying to challenge anything, it's just a rom com' intended for you to relax and presents a romanticized view of how single parents handle raising a kid on their own.

It's sad you don't like it, but we all have different tastes(though I agree the fudging childhood connection HAS TO GO, sick and tired of it). I just disagreed with most of your comment.

So got bullied by the Lee Min Ho and Gong Hyo Jin's mob for a comment I made before the drama aired, basically I've got not taste and no right to express my opinion. The usual.. Comment was pretty neutral, no hate on the leads, just that both tend to pick projects I dislike but that I would give this show a chance because the premise is interesting.
Blocked something around 7 or so people at the time. Fan mobs are the worst, as if bullying people is gonna make them change their mind ( by the way feel free to harass me below, I love blocking people, makes my time on MDL really pleasant since I blocked its most toxic members) .

Anyway fast forward to now, I come here to see what people think and basically, the whole comment sections has been flooded by people who dislike the show, it's almost impossible to find a balanced opinion. It's either all black or black, with a couple of "I like it" with no explanations.

My cynical self can't help but think of the toxic fan mob 😈😈😈 and rejoice a bit because I'm a human being and I'm petty even if I never wished for this drama to tank.
But my Drama lover self is sad to see positive comments becoming invisible through all that negativity.

I was hesitating to watch this but now, I won't bother until 2026, by that time this comment section will have been emptied and both voices will be audible hopefully without any fan mob in the mix, they're just insufferable. Most people watch dramas for their stories and don't give a f** about the actors in it, you don't rate a show based on the effort put it by the persons involved or how much you love this or that actor.

Only the end product matters.
Anyway good luck to you all. Not the best thread to enjoy oneself for sure.

Also Su Ra knows Jun Hwa knows BUT both of them still think Eun Ho doesn't🤣🤣🤣

Talk about being S.L.O.W

My my my... There's quite a lot of scenes already uploaded on Channel A Youtube's channel ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaZS_XwAu1yBMNoQDD1mR7g/videos - VPN South Korea) and this looks like a lot of fun ^^
This episode promise to be such a delight compared to the previous one. ^^

"Jae On is Deok Su’s real name, not Jun Hwa’s sister. When Deok Su’s dad said “think about Jun Hwa and Jae On,” he was referring to both of their kids."

I overlooked that part, thanks for claryfying... That's my mistake. Doesn't change my theory though (apart from the dead sister's theory of course)

For the rest, I didn't say Mae Hwa told the Minister of Defense about Deok Su following Jun Hwa's father's order. I think it's pretty clear she's playing both sides at present to stay in the good books of both and will choose which party to stick to once the winning side is more clear.

My theory was regarding what happened in the past. At that time, she followed what Jun Hwa's father wanted because it was pretty clear to her Jae On's father was doomed and she will fall with him if she stuck to his side hence the betrayal. This doesn't mean she happily did it... Just that she felt she had no choice but she still wanted to protect her former mentor's daughter but Jae On/ Deok Su fails to see that aspect because she probably doesn't know that the mastermind behind her father's downfall is not Mae Hwa but Jun Hwa's dad.

I get you... But since the exam phase is over, I don't think we're going to see them as much as before.

Personal theory there:

From what we got in episode 7, it's very likely Mae Hwa didn't betray Deok Su's father, she was just caught up in the middle of Jun Hwa's father's betrayal of his best friend and guessed her only way to live was to (pretend to) join the winning side.

It's sad but you gotta go what you gotta do to survive. Deok Su is, justifiably, so hanged on the fact that Mae Hwa killed her father that she fails to see the big picture, which namely is:

1. Mae Hwa answers to Jun Hwa's father, hence what happened is probably something HE ordered.

2. Mae Hwa has guessed who she is and could have easily spilled the beans yet she didn't. Thus, it's very likely she did it to protect her from someone or something.

Also... Now it's pretty clear Jun Hwa's love life is doomed. If Jun Hwa's dad hadn't been that greedy, her father would have probably been very happy to make sure Deok Su married him... BUT what happened happened.
They're setting up some very heavy drama ahead for both leads:

1. Deok Su + Jun Hwa ==> Doomed : Can't get married with the son of your father's betrayer and murderer.

2. Deok Su + Hidden Prince ==> Figuratively Doomed since he's from royalty BUT K-Drama so they'll find a way around that.

I still think once Deok Su discovers Jun Hwa's identity and the truth behind her father's death, past her conflicted feelings of betrayal, they'll rekindle their friendship but that Jun Hwa will just accept that they were never meant to be... though I don't think he'll find it in him to forgive his father.
Can't get the girl you like because your father killed her father... and he 'sold' himself to his father to save her...
Well his father is a greedy ass*** so I don't care what happens to him.

Also they mentioned Jun Hwa's sister Jae On but we've yet to see her... So I wonder if she didn't get caught in all that mess and died years ago. I'm much more curious about Go Su Ra now. They all have shady backgrounds and he's literally the only one we know nothing about.

If he turns out to be somebody important in all that mess, that would be one hell of a plot twist.

ALSO, I think episode 7 established pretty clearly that Eun Ho knows Deok Su is a woman. There's all these discussions he had with his bodyguard about how Deok Su was different... and then there's these looks.
I'm sorry but you don't give these looks to a MAN in a Joseon drama (unless it's a BL).

Agree. This show is best when we're at the inn and the Haona Quartet is together.
I struggled a bit with episode 7. The beginning was pretty good, they introduced some light moments in spite of all the drama happening but then it became too serious, and you could feel the length.
I'm glad I'm watching this show as it's airing because a slow episode like this would be the type that'd me hesitate to drop it and check all later episodes if everything had been released.

Well that's 1 disappointing episode out of 7 so, I'm not going to hold it against the show but I definitely hope that's the only episode when the Quartet is not together. It's not a particularly original show, but it manages to shine because of the chemistry between the 4 leads. That's basically why people are watching the show, not for the political drama, though they still do need to make the plot move forward.

I haven't watched episode 7 yet. TOO MANY SHOWS on the weekend... I can't keep up.
I just want to say to all of you who are saying that Eun Ho doesn't know... THAT THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL.
I'M RIGHT!

He's just pretending. HE KNOWS.

Bidding my time until I can say I TOLD YOU SO!

That was my useless flexing break. Now back to work 😭😭😭

They're probably gonna show it at some point ^^ Everything has been perfect so far, so I'm trusting them to deliver before they officially get together :D

They sure know how to make us SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Also that cliffhanger is pure sadism 😈😈😈

I think it's pretty clear she's the one who is responsible. She just shifted the blame to Ji Yun because she didn't want to 1. Take responsibility for the suicide 2. Be fired 3. Being shunned by everyone.
In fact, she might have not wanted the suicide of the former CEO... but she sure benefitted from it. I hope the truth comes to light at some point and everyone knows what she did.